On Friday evening, CreativeCompacts had an install party so to speak... Taking our stock tC with only 400 miles and installing all the bolt-ons we could before Saturday. During the install session, we were able to get the WR Intake, Megan Racing Header, CreativeCompacts.Com Full Exhaust, DC Sports Strut Bar, and the WR Engine Damper. With the exception of the exhaust which took about 30 min, we did all the other mods in a combined time of 1 hour. Scion tC is a very easy bolt on vehicle.

Anyways in regards to the Engine Damper, I am very impressed. The item DOES work with the DC Sports Strut Bar and under hard shifts or occasional downshifting, you can definitely tell a difference with the engine.

http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/959_111_114.jpg

The item comes with two mounting brackets which attach to the Engine Mount and the Strut Tower. Very nice addition to the engine bay.

Close Up View Installed
http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/scion/WREngineDamper/Closeup.jpg

Full View with Strut Bar
http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/scion/WREngineDamper/FullView.jpg

Let me know if you have any more questions... Also we have plenty instock for immediate shipment. This modification will only take you 20 min MAX to install.

will it work with other strut tower bars.

We were able to check it on Hotchkis and it was fine. We have been unable to test it on Tanabe, but based off the design, should be golden.

Anyways in regards to the Engine Damper, I am very impressed. The item DOES work with the DC Sports Strut Bar and under hard shifts or occasional downshifting, you can definitely tell a difference with the engine.

what exactly does this do?

The high quality WEAPON*R Engine Damper mounts in between your vehicle's engine block and firewall to effectively control horsepower and torque. Keep your motor supported as you slam through those gears while adding a nice show piece under the hood. Creates less stress to engine mounts, giving you more power to the wheel!

Direct from their website

so no drilling... ?

I was just going to get one because I thought they were like 70 bucks not 210. I would like to have it but thats way to much for me, maybe once the S/C comes or something.

$210 :rofl: Thats a bit high...

$210 :rofl: Thats a bit high...
Well, it's high enough to make me think about building my own. Instead of a little damper a urethane bushing would probably be cheaper and easier to come by, then it's just a matter of sutting and bending some metal. Of course, stiffer motor mounts or urethane motor mount inserts would be the better way to get the same result.

wow, 210? Any possibility of dropping the price a bit?

msrp i believe is 225...

Retail is $250

Our price is $209. Price is worth every penny in my opinion but its up to the customer.

well in a few months i will be ordering one... got some other stuff I wanna get first.

All of the Weapon R Engine Damper Kits are a range of $110-$170


I didnt know creative compacts sold this intill now... i would get one but everyones saying that it is expensive for that thing.



so i will stick to gather some cash for the Megan Headers, and forget the damper kit

All of the Weapon R Engine Damper Kits are a range of $110-$170


I didnt know creative compacts sold this intill now... i would get one but everyones saying that it is expensive for that thing. I also heard the damper kit makes you car vibrate..



so i will stick to gather some cash for the Megan Headers, and forget the damper kit

actually they range up higher if you go to prostreetonline.com they have them for all models and many are at 225 the cheapest is 140... as for vibrates couldnt tell ya but that doesnt make since b/c the dampers are supposed to keep the engine from moving as much...

Of course the damper makes the car vibrate more. It stiffens the connection between the engine and the frame so more vibration makes it through to the cockpit. Stiffer motor mounts would have a similar effect.

Creative Compacts you guys are bad ___. :bow:

selling major parts everyone is mostly lookin for at a cheaper price compared to other sites. whats even better is most of all free shipping on some products!! :clap:


i hope you guys continue to sell products cheaper and freeshipping for years, if so im your main customer.... :love:

We spoke with the owner of Weapon R on the behalf of the owners who have spoke up about price. Other kits range from $170 on up, however the price of Raw Materials has gone up 300% in the last 3 months alone. You can probably thank rising oil prices for this. The scion tC kit is not the most complicated damper kit they offer, however it does have a lil more raw material usage then say a honda civic.

I have had the damper installed for about 100 miles and haven't experienced too much if any vibration inside the car...

This mod is very quick and straight forward. Install time was very quick and results were instant. Once you decide you want this mod, you will be driving with it in no time thereafter.

We look forward to servicing the scion community and am working hand in hand with manufacturers to get the items made and also TESTED on our company car. At this time I do believe we are the only retailer who has been given a car by scion to do product development and testing as well as the only retailer working hand in hand with the manufacturers to test their products for retail. With this being said, CreativeCompacts and the Scion Community are going to have a long future and look forward to your business.

Thanks
James

you should do an installation post

We posted the images... whole install can be done in 15 min! Remove 2 14mm nuts from the strut tower, install bracket and then reinstall nuts. Remove 2 14mm bolts from the engine mount and install bracket and then reinstall bolts. Connect damper to brackets with bolts, DONE.

We posted the images... whole install can be done in 15 min! Remove 2 14mm nuts from the strut tower, install bracket and then reinstall nuts. Remove 2 14mm bolts from the engine mount and install bracket and then reinstall bolts. Connect damper to brackets with bolts, DONE.

I think he means a good install guide :P, Maybe with some good photos and intructions. Like the ones we do for our tech article's.

better off upgrading to big Motor Mounts

arent any out...

Price has been reduced to $179 shipped... $30 savings...

you are the man... wow.

damn, $179 is below the wholesale cost for other retailers. i got mine through a friend (installing it in about 2 hours, later tonight) and HIS cost was over $200. i paid $223 after tax, which was about the same as creativecompats.com's old shipped price. *sigh*

in about 2 hours i'll find out if this thing is really a "20 minute install" kind of item. i'll post and let everyone know. i already have a dc sports strut bar so i'll take some pix.

wow, droppin' prices like wally-world. You ROCK!

so does the Weapon R greatly improves the launching???? and how does the strut bar does so great with the damper kit?

man i want this

got this topic back up to let you guys know that installed a damper kit recently...

Overall i notice a great improvement in launching.... instead of the bad burn out-wheelhop sound/feel (eerrrrr dong dong dong dong), now its just a burn out ( a clean one).... also i notice a smoother shifting.

ofcourse i notice the vibration but what sucks is the sound. its like a rattle sound coming from the right side where the damper kit is... it is not the engine, it probably gotta be where the damper and the strut tower is attached. you can hear the sound when you start to accelerate or reverse... i thought it was the engine at first thats rattling but when i took it off the rattle is gone..

creativecompacts.com(where i bought it from) told me i should not hear a sound what so ever... Weapon-R says i should just feel the vibration, but not a sound. during my chat with weapon-r tech guy, he finally says i should be hearing some sort of rattle ( i claim) since the damper is holding on to the engine causes your car to vibrate and shake things up....


Maybe i gotta adjust the damper or something. everything is completely installed correctly, but im not sure if i am suppose to hear that sound.in the first place...

ofcourse im pretty sure an aftermarket exhaust or headers should overcome the sound, and i dont have my headers because tctunerz wont ship it...


IMO if you guys wanna get this for racing purposes its a nice addition. headers and exhaust would overcome the sound, without it you better just turn your music up (30volume).

nice review :clap:

Yeah good review. I really want one but I feel the price is too steep for what it is. I really want something to help with the wheel hop and by your comments, this seems to really help. Maybe the price will come down a little when Im ready to buy one.

i just ordered mine from CC. cant wait to install it.

Hmm.. looks like this might be next up for Gotti.

i just got mine and i was curious if we really have to jack up the car. also they say to jack it up on the oil pan with a piece of wood between the 2. that sounds a bit dangerous imo. also should the damper be as tight as possible?

I installed the damper on the company car with jacking the car up. We jacked each side up by jack then installed a jackstand on each side so both front wheels were completely off the ground.

got this topic back up to let you guys know that installed a damper kit recently...

Overall i notice a great improvement in launching.... instead of the bad burn out-wheelhop sound/feel (eerrrrr dong dong dong dong), now its just a burn out ( a clean one).... also i notice a smoother shifting.

ofcourse i notice the vibration but what sucks is the sound. its like a rattle sound coming from the right side where the damper kit is... it is not the engine, it probably gotta be where the damper and the strut tower is attached. you can hear the sound when you start to accelerate or reverse... i thought it was the engine at first thats rattling but when i took it off the rattle is gone..

creativecompacts.com(where i bought it from) told me i should not hear a sound what so ever... Weapon-R says i should just feel the vibration, but not a sound. during my chat with weapon-r tech guy, he finally says i should be hearing some sort of rattle ( i claim) since the damper is holding on to the engine causes your car to vibrate and shake things up....


Maybe i gotta adjust the damper or something. everything is completely installed correctly, but im not sure if i am suppose to hear that sound.in the first place...

ofcourse im pretty sure an aftermarket exhaust or headers should overcome the sound, and i dont have my headers because tctunerz wont ship it...


IMO if you guys wanna get this for racing purposes its a nice addition. headers and exhaust would overcome the sound, without it you better just turn your music up (30volume).

man this is nuts. the sound is crazy. it sounds like i have an intake with the filter off. i am goona try and install some rubber gromets on it tomorrow at work and see if that helps at all. im not to crazy about the sound but my intake should cover it up once it gets here. over all, i love the new feel of the engine and throttle. ill let y ou know if the rubber gromets help at all tomorrow.

im sure i have it installed right but could someone take a detailed picture(s) of there install? id greatly appricated.

i installed mine this past weekend....
a little diappointed that it's not hydrualic but kinda makes it "serviceable"

had to cut part of the supplied bracket that mounts to the motor because no room for socket.....

noise sounds like a blown waterpump bearing....but you kinda get used to it after a while.....

performance wise.....KICK ___!!

do you have the casing as tight as possble. the one that has the WR logo.

cool, just out of couriousity what do they do?

So is everyone that installed it experiencing some kind of rattle, or has it been user installation error?

Any fixes you guys find should be posted up here to make it easier for CC to help their customers with.

I don't sell the damper myself but I'm interested in it. More people would buy if people post problems/fixes.

I've had the damper installed for over 1500 miles and no abnormal rattles or noises that I can notice... I will use the MUTE button tomorrow on the radio to see if i can hear anything but nothing to date and DEFINITELY no need to cut or hack anything.. this mod took less then 10 min to do.

ok i just installed rubber gromets on the damper it self on the endlinks and still hearing the "fake intake noise". I will figure it out believe me. i will. But James dont you have a header and intake and exhaust? that would cover up the sound imo. i cant really hear the noise in the engine bay but i can hear it in the cabin. could it be that the damper is taking the engines vibration and putting in the firewall, in case making something vibrate along it? Im going to have my mechanical engineer here at work look at it and see if he has any ideas.

also i noitced that when i install the damper on the rear bracket first and it is just sitting there that i have to push it downward to meet up with the forward bracket. did you guys notice the same thing?

well i just talked with my mec engineer and he said that it was a bad idea to put the rubber gromets with the damper. so i will remove them after work. he rode in the car with me and he said that the noise is normal for an engine damper. he was suprised the tC moved the way it did. he was impressed.

the sound has to do with the strut tower thats attach to the damper... the engine is shaking the strut tower and whatever is near it... you can adjust the length of the damper to release the tightness... i cant do that to mine, extend further and my damper will not fit...


yay you guys like it, im impress with WEAPON-R..... i hope creativecompacts and racingsolutions sell other weapon-r products for the tC. like the ignition equilizer kit...

ask you can see these are hand made products.. gmoney it sound like your brackets are far apart, you can adjust the length longer... my brackets are too close to each other, tho it fits but i cant extend the length....

cool, just out of couriousity what do they do?


i notice smoother shifting (as in accelerating after into gear)and better launch

but youll feel vibration alittle at stops and sounds comin from the damper side..

yep i am noticing the same thing. saturday is my car day so i will play with everything again and see if i cant figure out what rattling and what not. but over all i love the new feel of the car with the damper kit on. so i wont be taking it off anytime soon. just gotta figure it out. stay tuned.

Def like the reviews.. good stuff GMon... i'll have to check it out!

how big is that damper?
does it break easy?
just curious, don't really want to spend 2 bills if it's not reliable.

Alright, I played around with the damper kit and I couldnt find what was rattling. I looked over the suspension on the right tower and everything. Its a little hard to tell now cause of my exhaust being on. Sorry fellas, i tried.

:tap: Damnit G... :lol: JK JK

ive been driving with the damper for awhile now, the sound does die out later on.. or i must have gotten used to it... but the sound will start fading....

I was going to get this mod but I'm not liking that everyone is experiencing an odd sound. :(

ive been driving with the damper for awhile now, the sound does die out later on.. or i must have gotten used to it... but the sound will start fading....


hes right. only in the moring do i hear anything anymore and only for a few mins. but believe me its worth the noise.

Nice.

at least the sound goes away and I won't be hopping away from stop signs.

Definitely worth the money

Definitely worth the money

Looking forward to getting mine I ordered from you this week....now whats up with that S PIPE?!?!?!?!?!

<---Looking into that

<--------wanting to know :D

AGREED ...Overall i notice a great improvement in launching.... instead of the bad burn out-wheelhop sound/feel (eerrrrr dong dong dong dong), now its just a burn out ( a clean one).... also i notice a smoother shifting.

AGREED ...but what sucks is the sound. its like a rattle sound coming from the right side where the damper kit is... it is not the engine, it probably gotta be where the damper and the strut tower is attached. you can hear the sound when you start to accelerate or reverse... i thought it was the engine at first thats rattling but when i took it off the rattle is gone..

AGREED...man this is nuts. the sound is crazy. it sounds like i have an intake with the filter off. i am goona try and install some rubber gromets on it tomorrow at work and see if that helps at all. im not to crazy about the sound but my intake should cover it up once it gets here. over all, i love the new feel of the engine and throttle. ill let y ou know if the rubber gromets help at all tomorrow.[/quote]


MY REVIEW ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Got mine installed today and its diesal engine noisy. The best way I can describe it is valve train/whinny transmission noise. My mechanic suggest that because the brace is solid metal that it may be resonating or ringing through to the firewall what normally would never be heard.....[maybe like a tuning fork effect]. Its like you can't hear these sounds under the hood but you hear it while driving up in the dash towards the right side of the car. Rather strange as I had one of these devices on another car and did not get this. I personally feel little to no vibration at all. It does what it is suppose to do but the noise was very un-expected. I would think anyone who does this mod and hears nothing has a short ram and or header installed. In my case a CAI and no header so I hear it. Not getting well hop and when I shift I don't snap my neck as bad :) So mixed bag.

Scott

Hey I also wanted to add some pics and info. Following the pics on the instructions putting the brace on the (valve cover ) side of the engine bracket/mount caused a pop noise when you shifted and really looked buckled and stressed. If you look close at the photo showing the close up pick on the creative compacts demo car you can see were it just does not flush up with the motor bracket(all though the rest of the unit does not look buckled as mine did). Anyway when we moved it to the other side the brace lined up with my motor bracket flush and the engine dampner no longer looked buckled and or un-flush. Is it possible ?? that the photo and or install that lead to the photo in the instructions could be wrong? I can only say what worked better for my car. I will add that EITHER way the noise level stayed the same. Below first is creatives pics then my pics. No plans on taking it off as it does control motor flex:)

creatives car FYI their car had headers and short ram on it when they installed this (pics appear that way) so they probably did NOT hear the noise we are hearing.
http://www.creativecompacts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/scion/WREngineDamper/Closeup.jpg

My pics to compare. (I also may have had slightly different hardware since their first pics.)

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/2087000-2087999/2087543_64_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/2087000-2087999/2087543_63_full.jpg

Well update for day 2 and now I have a loud rattle at low rpm when the engine shakes a bit..ya know taking off soft in first and or reverse. At first I thought it was the AC line but padded that with some rubber for a test and no dice. So the over all noise I can deal with but rattles I don't think so. So it is looking more and more like it is coming off which really sucks. $170 down the tubes. I wonder how much research and on car testing weapon-r did with this as it seems like some there stands to be some stuff that needs worked out.

well, i'm going to hold off on getting the damper. i'd love to have one, but i'll wait to see what happens long term wise.

i want to know how long it will last.
i want to know how it will affect other parts of the car (sunroof and lots of vibration don't mix)
and i want to know what is causing rattles on certain cars.

wanting the feel but not the noise... so we'll have to see

Mine doesn't rattle. :P My bet is the problem with the Weapon R is the damper itself. The brackets may be custom made to fit, but if you use a non-adjustable, "all purpose" damper, any resistance it provides beyond what is needed to keep the motor from shifting during acceleration is turned into noise.

I had the rattle, but was able to fiix it with shimming and adjusting the damper length. Its been about 3 months since I last messed with it and it I have no ratttles whatsoever. The only noise I get is a vibration when Im at idle with the AC on.

Too sad but I just took mine off. The tuning fork effect for drive train/trans noise inside the car is driving me crazy. Also got a rattle at low rpms that I can't seem to dial in on and one of the bolts sits close to the AC line and prob. will rub a hole in it with my luck. All in all I think a thrown together product by Weapon-R to get mod hungry people to blow $180. Anyway mine will be on Ebay for $140ish very soon. Also in my opinion the install is more time consuming than one may think. Also air driven wrenches with extensions would make things better and make sure to have wood laying around for the jacking up the car on the oil pan per instructions. If you race you should get it. If you don't...you don't.

Scott

Would this work at all with an auto tranny?

Would this work at all with an auto tranny?



yes it will

WEll i know it will work but would it make a differnce I would notice. since my gears shift smoothly?

You will notice a difference whenever you punch it and especially off the line.

That is too bad... and I was going to get one too. I think the design is bad since there is only one shock dampaneing on the left side of the engine. Unless the shock is basically flush with the rocking motion of the engine, I would think the brackets wouldn't hold up to well undess the asymetrical vibrations and stress. Maybe if you add a shim or heavy-duty rubber or urythane washer to the assembly...?

I just got my damper today and I was wondering if there is a difference with installing it with jacking up the oil pan like it says in the instructions or is it okay to install it without doing that.

Probably wouldn't be a good idea. I'm going to assume that raising the engine by the oilpan will give the damper more a proper "feel" for "how" to dampen the moving.

When you lift the engine by the oil pan, you're pushing the engine up, which is exactly what happens when you're shifting and stuff. This probably translates as the damper "pulling" the engine up while also "pushing" it down therefore cancelling engine movement rather than just pushing it down only.

Someone might want to correct this.

I didnt do it and mine works fine, but I did have to mess with it a few tiems to get it adjusted so it doesnt rattle.

What did you do to get it to stop rattling?

ANything new on this?

http://www.monstermotorworks.com/store/agora.cgi?cart_id=4308183.8102*JK6Oq7&p_id=00006&xm=on&ppinc=search2 $170 at monstermotorworks

Nothing new other than its removed and all is well. Should have it on Ebay soon if anyone wants it cheap. PM me.