http://focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?s=aadc519a8f688022edda2740dd654a58&threadid=43672

=(((

losers, theyd actually be suprised at how quick these boxes can be. ive burnd quite a few zx3's before.

If I was worried about what other people thought about the xB I would'nt be driving one. To each his own.

ah, who cares? :yawn:

had a focus, ditched it. love my box.

people asked what i was doing when i had the focus, guess i just like to be different.

conformity sux...heh :P

all you have to do is ask them how many times their focus was recalled, that should shut em up. my 2 best friends have focuses and they always are having something wrong.

my dad has owned ford cars for like 20 some years now and i can say every single one was a pile of ford garbage. (currently he has a 2001? taurus) they are not fun to drive around in, poorly made, and do not last very long.

:loser: :loser: :loser: :loser:

They all drive POS fords and they wanna talk? :rofl:

-THE DON

if i wanted fast it sure would not be a focus :loser: ... i would get a lancer evo or a wrx or a vettesomething along those lines i mean come on i love my xb its fun to drive and great on gas oh well to each his own....

At the time I bought my Matrix, I had looked at a Focus. I test drove one and didn't like it. But, a friend of mine has an SVT Focus and it didn't feel like it was going to fall apart though.

what does for stand for
Fix or repair daily
Found on road Dead
f'ed over rebuilt dodge
theres more i don't remember :rofl:

Found On Road Dead

I'm surprised that the Focus people have time to post on a site while they are getting all of the factory recalls taken care of on their cars.

Maybe the service departments have Wi-Fi or something.

I especially like how the guy said he would rather drive a Tempo. I say let 'em. A$$.\

:blah:

I had a 2000 Ford Focus.....it sucked big time. I had 9 recalls on it, a blown radiator, busted engine. I replaced all of them and traded it in for my xB. I used to love Ford but it let me down to many times. The devil is real and his name is Ford Focus. :pray: :pray: :pray:

If I was worried about what other people thought about the xB I would'nt be driving one. To each his own.

:pray: amen to that

check out my WWW and my profile. I put two lengths on my friends zx3 focus. He has exhaust from headerback and a piggyback programable control module. I'm not sure of what engine work he has done from when it had a turbo on it and it has some ignition work.
Before my iridium plugs, intake, and WR engine damper he put about three to four lengths on me

i had a '88 taurus after my '87 Z28 was totaled (R.I.P :() and as im driving to school on route 1 teh transmission stopped putting power to the wheels, then i look in my rear view mirror to find smoke, fkuid, and huge chunks of metal falling out the back of the car. i lifted the hood to see where the smoke was coming from and the engine was on fire. needless to say i left it burning on the side of the road.2 days later it was still there (the fire put itself out) and had it towed to a local garage and told them to junk it.

i am on that site all the time...i used to have a zx3 and i was part of a focus club that i still am involved in..but i read that post and i was so annoyed. one thing i learned from owning a focus is they all love to talk sh*t. they all talk about how fast their foci are when they r slow.

My first car was a Ford. Lets put it this way, the auto repair mechanic and I were on a first name basis. After going to him so many times in a short period of time, he finally said to me "Save your money, dont put another dime into this car". I was completely shocked that a mechanic told me not to pay him to fix my car. hahaha I thought that was the funniest thing ever. You know it is bad when a mechanic feels sorry for you.

Theres Ford quality for ya.

awe, come on guys. If you were forced to drive a Ford Focus, you'd be ____ed too! And you'd be doubly-____ed if you found out that you could get twice the vehicle (xB) for the same price.

I feel sorry for them.

Who cares? let them talk their talk as long as they are happy and it is not harming anyone.

i had a '88 taurus after my '87 Z28 was totaled (R.I.P :() and as im driving to school on route 1 teh transmission stopped putting power to the wheels, then i look in my rear view mirror to find smoke, fkuid, and huge chunks of metal falling out the back of the car. i lifted the hood to see where the smoke was coming from and the engine was on fire. needless to say i left it burning on the side of the road.2 days later it was still there (the fire put itself out) and had it towed to a local garage and told them to junk it.

So it really was Found On Road Dead! :silly:

I owned a ZX3 for a year and it was on a rollback 3 times. It had so many recalls I was at the dealer monthly. I haven't had the POS for years and I still get recall notices from Ford. I will never buy a Ford again as I had similar problems with a brand new 96 Mustang GT. OH and they are slow, even the SVT didn't go fast. I love my box, it makes me smile everytime I walk towards it in the parking lot full of boring Honda's and SUV's

I always saw the Zx3 as a formula... like this: ZX3=ZZZ

http://www.mrtraffic.com/traffic-zzz.gif

Just imagine the Zx5...

If I was worried about what other people thought about the xB I would'nt be driving one. To each his own.

:pray: amen to that

That goes double for not caring what a Focus owner thinks about my car? :P

in my opinion when the focus first came out it was a pile of sh*t its ugly to me and its lousy american muscle in a hatchback. who puts tail lights all the way up almost on the top of the friggin car. i almost raced a focus before only thing they got is that pop off tha light other than that they aint sh*t. did i mention they are ugly. but our boxes / toasters. are the bomb i dont care what people say we got good gas mileage. to hell with racing them ima be choppin pretty soon. oh and sorry for the whole paragraph guys that just made me kinda heated but im coo now.

guys know what im not calm im goin to register on there and give them a peace of my mind.

isn't a focus a glammed up festiva ???? :eyebrow:

hey guys update on the registering on tha focus site the deleted my name and deleted what i said about the focus. i guess they can dish it out but cant take it when somebody dishes it out to them. friggin p*ssy's :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

i guess they cant take a bashing

I like how the one person commented on how "its a toyota isnt it supposed to be great? ya right" Last time I checked, I havent heard of a focus making it past 100,000 miles without an enormous amount of work being done. Although 150,000+ is typical for Toyota engines... hmmm But then again I am a youth who is influenced by mass media... (note the sarcasm)

But what do I care- I drive my car because I like it- lol

they drive a FORD
Found
On
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Dead

I like how the one person commented on how "its a toyota isnt it supposed to be great? ya right" Last time I checked, I havent heard of a focus making it past 100,000 miles without an enormous amount of work being done. Although 150,000+ is typical for Toyota engines... hmmm But then again I am a youth who is influenced by mass media... (note the sarcasm)

But what do I care- I drive my car because I like it- lol


name ANY ford that didnt have trouble around 50,000-60,000 miles other than the old 80's f250. my uncle has one with 300,000+ miles on it, but he used to work at the ford assembly plant in edison new jersey, and hes also a very competant mechanic...

on another note i have a 1992 camaro rs with the 5 liter v8. it has 127k miles on it and runs like the day it was born. maybe if ford didnt build their "cars" ( :rofl: ) out of spit and wax they would last (see my post about my taurus)

everyone wants to feel good about whatever car you buy... most of the time it means putting down other cars to make you feel better... i'm sure all the other car message boards out there have a "...fugly xB toaster..." thread somewhere... i wouldn't trip over it...

just thinking about it, there's plenty of scion bashing/cheap shots on these boards... everyone thinks thier car is the best... what everyone should be thinking is my car is best for me...

fat chance of that happening though... :silly:

i had my zx3 for three yrs...i WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER FORD as long as i live. the day after i bought my BRAND NEW zx3, the damn thing wouldnt start. i had the same problem 5 TIMES. my car should have been lemon lawed. ford refused to do so, and the dealership i bought it from refused to help me. i fought with them over it for 3 years and i finally gave up. i wasnt goin to waste my time anymore. i bought my xb in january and i love it and HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS. im lovin this car!!!

mike

Festiva was a much better car. You can beat the hell out of them and they last forever. Unlike the focus. I had a festiva but I wanted a brand new car so I got my box.
I had a 4 door focus with a psev motor in it for a rental and it couldn't get out of its own way. I felt really unsafe on the 5 freeway in it

Interforum flame war! Whooo!

I actually like some ford models. I love the new mustangs and the thunderbirds. But there is only 1 problem. They are piece of crap fords.

well, not everyone is gonna think the xB is the sexiest thing around like we do

Think of it this way, toyota's last for years, ford's last 2, if that. :yawn:
I preach from experience, 1993 toyota previa, 300,000 someodd mills and still going strong. Rented a ford escort once, it broke down 2 miles from the rental place :crazy: , no joke, they r mad that they bought piles and we bought long lasting pieces of art

I used to be a member of myfordfocus.com, and when I told everyone that I have switched to my scion xB, most everyone was supportive.


I lOVED my focus, but when I got a recall on a recall that was performed earlier, I knew that the car would not hold up over 60K miles!

I especially like how the guy said he would rather drive a Tempo. I say let 'em. A$$.\


yeah that was my favorite too

I used to be a member of myfordfocus.com, and when I told everyone that I have switched to my scion xB, most everyone was supportive.


I lOVED my focus, but when I got a recall on a recall that was performed earlier, I knew that the car would not hold up over 60K miles!


your screen name makes sense now :P

Who cares? I mind my own business on the road and definately don't plan on racing anyone anytime soon in my box...

I used to be a member of myfordfocus.com, and when I told everyone that I have switched to my scion xB, most everyone was supportive.


I lOVED my focus, but when I got a recall on a recall that was performed earlier, I knew that the car would not hold up over 60K miles!


your screen name makes sense now :P

YES IT DOES!

i just think its funny.... an SVT focus and only SLOWLY pull from an xB.... yes they pull away....but not comletely wamping it like it should..... I just think it's funny...... i'd love to see that turbo B up to an SVT foci.... i think it would be a nice race, shoot, if it was a manual B, i'd almost put money on it!

jsut thought id chime in about ford. Had a 96 taurus before my "toaster" and at 41k needed a trans and again at 92k it needed a trans. on the way to trade it in with 128k on it it was slipping again.

Damn that's my car they're making fun of. Oh well they are all stupid with there under 150hp eninges. I could smoke those any day of the weak with my turbox. The all run like low 16's as 6 speeds and i run probably mid to high 15's with an automatic. I'll save that post. Next time i race a focus i'll post it up there and see who's laughing then.

FORD backwards

Driver
Returned
On
Foot
:rofl:

Yeah, it's not a Festiva, it's a Gen 3 Escort...

yo
dont totally bash fords b4 i got my xB i drove a old windstar and a f150 both were really nice but i still love my xB

its more like the other way around. i was a previous focus owner and somewhat proud of it. but they didnt end up with my focus. thats why i now drive an xB. The focus was junk a week after i took it off the lot

whoot its gettin kinda ugly over there on that thread. o man.

Fond
Of
Recall
Declarations


haha it is getting ugly over there. theyve found our ford hating thread :come:

maybe they feel special driving a car that has been recalled more times than you can count using all your fingers and toes...

cant we all just get along??? lol. its gettin so ridiculous its funny anymore

lots of members i know switched over to the xB from a focus. i miss my car and the power it had

I got rid of my 2000 Focus ZX3 to purchase our box and couldn' be happier. Sure the Focus was quicker, but I didn't buy the xB because it was fast. We bought it because it looks like no other vehicle on the road, and that's why we LOVE IT. So long Ford, you xB hating FocusFanatics can kiss my toaster...

I don't see what the big deal is. here we are doing the same thing they are: bashing other cars for little or no reason. focus's aren't fast, but neither are xb's. The focus is designed to own the curves, and the xb is designed to set it apart from the rest of the vehicles out there. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" I love the way the xb's look, can't stand the xa, and pray to god everyday that they release a turbo tc, but I also love the styling on the focus. sorry for the rant, but we all need to just play nice.

If any of us(or them) had wanted fast cars, we would have saved up and got vettes/vipers.

That other thread on the focus forum is NULL and VOID because one of their members posted how easy he thought it would be to tip over a box in a curve..

They know nothing about our boxes. Whats the point of arguing with them.

honestly, do you think you could take an xb around a 90 degree turn at speeds greater than 45 without rolling? I wouldn't try it.

and if you look closely, that guy doesn't call it a box. he calls it an xb. It's misquotes like that that get the intra-forum bashings started. Everyone loves the car they drive, or else they wouldn't be on one of these forums. I love my car, but you don't see me bashing other types of cars because it's not the same as mine

I call my car a box..... We all call our cars a box. We're not denying that its a box.

He said curves, not hairpin turns.

awe, come on guys. If you were forced to drive a Ford Focus, you'd be ____ed too! And you'd be doubly-____ed if you found out that you could get twice the vehicle (xB) for the same price.

I feel sorry for them.


I totally agree! I had no choice, my first car was an '80 Pinto and it kept on running long after we got rid of it. I also had no choice with my second car, an '88 Escort; it was in good condition and kept on running until I sold it and then the girl who bought it drove it to the ground and ruined the transmission. :doh:

hahahaha focus people talkn crap, i mean if they had a mustang, are a nicer sporty car they can talk but a focus come on, looks like a honda civic reject, my friend had a focus for 1 month and traded back in and bought a dodge intepid(sp) he hated the focus said it was the worst car he ever had and that man had some really ____ty cars, a focus :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: what a bunch of :loser:

FORD backwards

Driver
Returned
On
Foot
:rofl:
good one :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

cant we all just get along??? lol. its gettin so ridiculous its funny anymore
hell nah we cant get along.

Last time I checked, I havent heard of a focus making it past 100,000 miles without an enormous amount of work being done.


name ANY ford that didnt have trouble around 50,000-60,000 miles other than the old 80's f250.


My 1995 TBird will turn 10 years old on Sept 9th this year. I bought it with .6 miles on it (it still had the clear plastic wrapping covering the car and the white grease writing on the windows from the manufacturing plant). It currently has 121,000 miles on it, and I have YET to have a problem with it. :clap:

Granted, I am "proactive" and make sure that all regular maintenance is performed on time as suggested by Ford. I'll admit that Fords will bite you if you don't keep them maintained on-time, but I've never had any problems associated with maintenance or anything else... I'd love to have another car just like my TBird. :love: Unfortunately, it only gets 14 MPG and with 2 kids and a wife it's difficult to do day-to-day stuff, which is why we're looking at xBs now. :D

all you have to do is ask them how many times their focus was recalled, that should shut em up. my 2 best friends have focuses and they always are having something wrong.

FORD = Fix Or Repair Daily

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

My '89 mustang went 0-60 in 15.98 seconds. I also had a tranny go at 85,000 miles. I will not own another one.

How about

F ound
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R oad
D ead

F $^CKED

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yeah i dont care what anyone says bout my xB. its an awsome ride & plus its Toyota quality, def. an A+ in my book.

Al James doesnt think your funny

yeah!

Yo SVT4ME, I know you're reading this and I wanna say sup? I'm doing just dandy how about you? Hit me back on the focus thread in your forum. Peace out.

Wait a minute--people that drive Focus's (Foci?) have their own message board?


The apocalpyse is near.

I respect Ford Focuses just because the fact they're in the World Rally Championship (a damn quick car, but doesn't match the current leaders at the moment).

But my love for the Focus dwindled down because the box is just much more original than that shark looking car.

I too only bought it for looks and not for horses.

I don't see what the big deal is. here we are doing the same thing they are: bashing other cars for little or no reason. focus's aren't fast, but neither are xb's. The focus is designed to own the curves, and the xb is designed to set it apart from the rest of the vehicles out there. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" I love the way the xb's look, can't stand the xa, and pray to god everyday that they release a turbo tc, but I also love the styling on the focus. sorry for the rant, but we all need to just play nice.
If any of us(or them) had wanted fast cars, we would have saved up and got vettes/vipers. :blah:
Dude, Its OBVIOUS you dont know What the BIG deal is , YOU DONT KNOW !
And it DOESNT matter if you call an xB ..... BOX - bB - Milk Truck - Toaster ..... Its ALL GOOD !
And if you take just about ANY Stock Street Rated car around a 90% turn ,
Good luck!
Maybe you should know something 1st , before you post. :no:
And sometimes ~STYLE WINS OVER SPEED~ :clap:

focus=uber ___ Its a ford who cares what they think

I respect Ford Focuses just because the fact they're in the World Rally Championship (a damn quick car, but doesn't match the current leaders at the moment).

But my love for the Focus dwindled down because the box is just much more original than that shark looking car.

I too only bought it for looks and not for horses.

You do realize that the WRC Focus is just a *tad* bit different than the ones you find at Avus/Hertz/Ricks Rental Car, right?

They are upset b/c they drive a focus. They even had a thread on a different forum bashing the honda civic si. And an Si would eat them for lunch stock. I know I own one. So, they are just taking all of their aggression of making a poor decision when buying a car out on everyone else. My sister had one she hadn't had it for a year and it was already having problems. So she traded it in for a corolla s.

You do realize that the WRC Focus is just a *tad* bit different than the ones you find at Avus/Hertz/Ricks Rental Car, right?

It's still on the same platform as the wrc focus which is what makes it appealing. It's got "potential"

Anyways the Focus was super competitive when it came out in 1998 over in europe and was still classing leading when it hit the shores in the US in 2000. Now that its over 7 years old its just your average car. Its too bad the american focus was a tamed down version from whats sold over in europe. The 220hp Focus RS was pretty sweet and the new 2006 Euro Focus ST is really sharp (its got the 220 hp 2.5L Turbo 5cyly from the volvo s40 t5 in it). The new euro focus also sits on the same platform as the new Volvo S40 and Mazda3 (sadly its not even slated to come to the us yet).
http://cars.ign.com/articles/588/588066p1.html
http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/images/focus_01a.jpg

You do realize that the WRC Focus is just a *tad* bit different than the ones you find at Avus/Hertz/Ricks Rental Car, right?

while it may be different, it only sees a few days of action before getting completely rebuilt, so it doesnt have time to "ford" itself, though i know colin mcrae has had more than a few temper tantrums with his focus :P

SVT4ME - No thanks, I'm good. I was just being friendly and saying hello. This whole thing is silly. lol

might just be me but... why the hell are these cars being compared at all?... makes no sense to me...

if a brand comparison is what they are after, why not just compare the xA to the focus...?

talking trash about someone else's car is pretty silly anyway. I noticed some people tried to keep it mature but I guess there are always instigators out there.

Anyhow, its not like we need to prove we have the better cars (if they were ever comparable in the first place)...

so I'd say let's just let this thing die...
if you feel the need for satisfaction you can always laugh at them when you see a ford broken down on the road

You do realize that the WRC Focus is just a *tad* bit different than the ones you find at Avus/Hertz/Ricks Rental Car, right?

while it may be different, it only sees a few days of action before getting completely rebuilt, so it doesnt have time to "ford" itself, though i know colin mcrae has had more than a few temper tantrums with his focus :P

Hahah I remeber that man... rally of greece 2002, Colin was so dissapointed in himself after doing a 360 roll in the air and having his focus slam down on the roof and land on 4 wheels again. As soon as he got out of the car to realize he cant go further.... he kicks the damn ford focus hah.

Just thought i would let you know the thread is..Closed.. It's really funny those guys hate on everyone...

when i wrecked my camry, i was forced to rent a focus and the drive was the worst in my life (i havent driven a ford before ever in my life) and the ride totally sucked...it wasnt smooth like my camry and i felt like i had to really give it to the break for it to stop---or maybe it was too jerky....all i remember is i hated driving that thing for like 5 days.....

if the focus Quality was built better that it was when i owned my 2001 ZX3 5 Speed (rare at the time and special order) for 3 years and logged on a hard 100,500 miles on it, id buy another one, and build it the same way but a wagon.

as we all know this thread is probably gonna be locked up soon because i can already see its startin to flame up with kiddie lanuage and immaturity. we can all say what we want about the Ford Focus and other cars like the Pontiac G6 lookin like a tC (i still dont see a resemblence) or the aveo (which i would make a pocket rocket if i had one)

Lets keep the thread under control so we can express our opinion maturely without it gettin locked up and a new one made a few months later

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wODg2NDY4NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

They can't bash anything. THEY'RE DRIVING FORDS!

Who.freaking.cares.

Really.

http://focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=515929#post515929

Who.freaking.cares.

Really.

exactly (thread lock time)

I'm not trying to flame here, but it seems really funny to me that guys with 108 hp bricks are referring to ANYONE as "slow."

I'm not a Ford fan, in fact, I really don't like most of their products at all. But can't we please stop this BS of referring to an entire company's cars as crap? None of the major automakers (excluding the Koreans here) is incapable of making at least one decent car. The Focus is generally regarded by the automotive press as one of the best economy cars out there and the SVT Focus is one of the best-handling cars you can get for under $40,000... much less under $25,000. Like I said, I don't like Ford either, but I find it hard to really jack the Focus too much unless people are claiming them to be anything other than competent daily drivers (with the exception of the SVT).

Honestly, both cars are really ugly. My mom had a 2001 focus zx3 and i hated it. The XB wins in price and reliability, but honestly i think the focus wins in looks and obviously in performance. So which car wins ? None, they are tied as both being losers.

isn't a focus a glammed up festiva ???? :eyebrow:Hey hey...I owned two Festivas. And frankly, they were the VW BUGS of Ford. They just ran and ran...put over 150,000 on one, and 170,000 on another. GREAT cars.

Now, I also owned a 2000 Ford Out Of Focus, and let me tell you...for the first 37,000 miles, it was great. Then two fuel pumps in less then 2000 miles. Yeah, that got me thinking...

And all the recalls. It was not on the road so much as it was in the shop. Not again, says I.

:no:

off the other link above in the focus forums:

"Every car is going to have its minor glitches and don't count on any car manufacturer recalling a car unless it is bursting into flames at a stop light or the tires are falling off while driving (both have been current recalls). I wouldn't worry about it, you got a warranty right? Bumper to bumper 36K miles/ 3 years (or more) so your got 36K miles to just not give a ____ what happens."

does this mean this happened to ford? i dunno, i'd freak if i knew that..

I am extremely unhappy that some of our members have chosen to create accounts at focusfanatics.com just to prod the Ford owners. They do not see it as clean fun and the site admin has expressed his feelings about the situation to me.

Please remember that you guys represent EVERYONE on this site and we don't need a few to mess it all up for the rest of us!