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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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I am just curious if anyone else has the same problem that i do.

Not every time i fill up but id say more than 50%, when i'm filling up with gas it wont let me put in more than a few cents at a time. It is like the tank is full and the nozzle shuts off . sometimes holding the handle at half way solves the problem but that takes forever. Mine is an 04 Xb and i know my friend with a hot lava Xb has said he had the same problem , but the dealership said they havent heard anything about it. Has anyone else had this problem?
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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I have had that happen to me a couple of times... I thought it had something to do with my credit card.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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This is a known issue, the dealer will fix it for free. It involves replacing the tank and filler neck. There is a TSB out on this.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=42874

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=44018

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=42950

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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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Mine does it also. I just put in on the lowest click and wait a while longer for it to fill. I just hate it when the pump has too high of pressure and it won't allow you to fully fill it without splashing out some fuel.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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Has anyone had this fix done at the dealer? Does it work?
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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This has been discussed a ton.

My 04 xB had the same problem, but it went away after awhile. Try putting the handle in just a little bit, then once that gas starts flowing pull it the rest of the way.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Gonzo_xb
Has anyone had this fix done at the dealer? Does it work?
I don't think I would let the dealer touch my box for something as minor as this. They usually do more damage in the process, especially around anything painted. Also try pulling the nozzel out an inch or two. It seems to not do it as bad.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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Either fight with the pump handle every time it decides to have a problem or go get it fixed for free. It solved my pump problems and didn't cost me anything other than the time it took to drop it off and pick it up.

Your choice which way you want to go.

TSB EG049-04 November 19, 2004
Fuel Nozzle Clicks Off Before Tank Is Full
Applicable Vehicles: 2004-2005 model year Scion xA and xB vehicles produced BEFORE the Production Change Effective VINs shown below.

Scion xA Takaoka Plant JTKKT6#4#50103217
Scion xB Takaoka Plant JTLKT3#4#50202999
Scion XB Central Plant JTLKT3#4#54007594
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 09:13 PM
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If you haven't gotten the hint this has been covered. Scion will fix it.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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It's definitely worth the time to get it fixed. It's so much nicer not having to fight the gas pump everytime you fill up.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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I would fix it myself if the dealer would give me the parts. I don't trust them to NOT scratch something though. Have heard of too many horror stories. I usually don't even let them prep my new cars because of the possible damage that could result!
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jethro b
I would fix it myself if the dealer would give me the parts. I don't trust them to NOT scratch something though. Have heard of too many horror stories. I usually don't even let them prep my new cars because of the possible damage that could result!
That sounds like paranoia.
It's a pretty invloved fix in some cases with lots of replacement parts.
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Wouldn't it just involve replacing the filler neck? What other parts would be involved?
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 09:54 PM
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Oddly enough my xB is in the S/N range covered by the TSB, but does not appear to have the problem...
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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It's not that much of a problem for me to worry about. If it gets harder to add fuel then I might inquire about getting the parts to fix it.
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I had mine done, it's much nicer now. Here are the parts they used:

QTY PN DESCRIPTION
2 90501-35036 SPRING, COMPRESSION
1 17451-21030 GASKET, EXHAUST PIPE
1 77201-52270 PIPE SUB-ASSY FUEL TANK FILLER
1 77001-52180 TANK SUB-ASSY, FUEL
1 77177-33010 GASKET, CHECK VALVE

The tank and pipe are new part numbers, the others are the same as stock.

I checked on the price of the parts alone and it was somewhere around $450 to order them. The estimated time is 4.7 hours, mine was done in two.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Max
I had mine done, it's much nicer now. Here are the parts they used:

QTY PN DESCRIPTION
2 90501-35036 SPRING, COMPRESSION
1 17451-21030 GASKET, EXHAUST PIPE
1 77201-52270 PIPE SUB-ASSY FUEL TANK FILLER
1 77001-52180 TANK SUB-ASSY, FUEL
1 77177-33010 GASKET, CHECK VALVE

The tank and pipe are new part numbers, the others are the same as stock.

I checked on the price of the parts alone and it was somewhere around $450 to order them. The estimated time is 4.7 hours, mine was done in two.
Good info. I couldn't find my list of parts.
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Max
I had mine done, it's much nicer now...
thanks Max, that's all I was looking for... just wanted to hear someone say that the dealer fix works before I take mine in. For me, the problem is really bad. Backing the nozzle out does not work at all, and squeezing the nozzle the bare mimum requireed to operate does not work either. The only time I don't have this problem is when I happen to come across a gas station that pumps the gas at a real low pressure. Which still means that it takes forever for me to fill up.
Old May 26, 2005 | 01:18 PM
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Man i made that post and forgot to check on it, i went to the dealer to ask them about that the day i posted that question and the guy said that they had heard nothing about any problems with the gas filler. I have yet to meet a scion dealer that knows more about the line than i do, i dont claim to know everything, but goddamn if you expect me to give you 15-20 thousand dollars at least know what the hell you are selling. Im tired of have every question i ask them answered wth "i dont know". These are the same guys that cant seem to understand that you cant touch halogen bulbs wth your fingers cause ive had to replace my foglights 3 times now. They had a good thing going with this car they just need some people who arent over the age of 60 making decisions, if your gonna have a car marketed after kids then maybe you should get a couple of younger people in on it, things are gradually getting better with the name brand optional parts like DC sports, AEM, Hotchkiss, and TYC but honestly whose idea was it to put obx parts on these cars them might as well used APC.
Well this rant has gone on long enough maybe elsewhere in the country dealers know their ____ but here in kansas they couldnt tell the difference between an xA and an xB if someone drove one up their ___
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