o.k. you all know that i was unable to get a loan for the scion xb because of my credit!! well since this happened i have thought alot about what i need to do. first i am paying off my stupid truck, and my galant, and all my stupid bills. after that i will access my credit again, and if my credit report is good again ,after all the bills being payed off... i am going to finace a loan and import a JDM toyota BB!!!! i figured it would NOT cost as much as a nissan skyline becuase the engine is the same as the american XB(therefore not as much MONEY to make it legal to drive in the states)i know it will cost a few more to import it. i have already contacted an import distributor and awaiting a quote to have it shipped to the states, This may take a while for me to do , i figured it would take a year for me to pay off everything except the galant. so my mission is to get my credit back up to where it should be in exactly one year, and import a BB. It may take longer though

BUT I AM NOT GIVING UP!!! i love this vehicle and i will own one!!

the skylines were expensive to import becuz someone had to prove to the US safety that it can widthstand a crash test

i think they crashed 3 skylines?? :cry:

good luck to ya!

best of luck to you.

How do you go about finding the process for importing a right hand drive car? I know there is a nightmarish amount of paperwork...and then the insurance is wierd because you need to have a VIN number assigned, and that can take forever.

Anyway, wish you well and hope you're able to score it!!! Jim Farley brought one of the Toyota right hand drive bB's to Exposed and it was awesome! (I've already said it a million times, but I really wanted to steal the wheels off it!) :D

How about you think realistically like I dunno get an American xB....its actually better then the bB because we get better tires from the dealership and also the Japan bB doesnt come with all the available options as standard....you really are wasting your time wanting to get a Japan bB

good luck to ya bro, i really hope you are able to get everything situated for the purchase. that is a great idea importing the bb, alot of work involved making it legal and all but well worth it if thats what you want.

I agree. Great idea with the import idea. Good luck to you and your finances.

i just hope the price is good i could care less about the paperwork. like i said it should not cost much it make it legal to drive, the most it cost is the shipping fees. i still may end up with a SCION xb but this is my first choice.

contact www.rbmotoring.com ask for victor tell him mike ma sent you. They import skylines and the like, so he can import you in a bB

go to www.batfa.com for JDM vehicles for sale

hey thanks guys i will check both of those websites

Just by paying off your bills won't help your credit rating.

Just by paying off your bills won't help your credit rating. but paying them off early will!!!!

now that i think of it foreign cars do differ a lot from american spec cars. we have stricker laws and safety features don't we. as in like those 5mph bumpers, smog, lights, etc. it could get costly just to get it registered.

What do you really have to do to make a vehicle legal in the states? If you live in a state that doesn't require an emissions inspection, couldn't you probably just pass it off as a normal vehicle(even though RH Drive is not normal)?

Just thinking.

Eric.

yeah you could if you thug it and dont get any insurance , tags , vin#, and inspection. but if you get caught thats alota $$$

Man o man, so many loans, so little cash, why would u even think about taking out another loan when u know you can't pay this stuff off??? If you have such poor credit spend some time buildin it back up to get a good score instead of running the risk of gettin in even more debt. If YOU MUST buy a new Scion why waste your time importing one. US ones are just as kick ___ as the JDM ones. Why not just convert an american one to RHD?? That would be different. Although, once the car is released to the rest of the country the car isn't going to be that unique anymore anyway. Its just gonna be like every other "niche" car, i.e. PT Cruiser, VW New Beetle and the Mini Cooper.

Man o man, so many loans, so little cash, why would u even think about taking out another loan when u know you can't pay this stuff off??? If you have such poor credit spend some time buildin it back up to get a good score instead of running the risk of gettin in even more debt. If YOU MUST buy a new Scion why waste your time importing one. US ones are just as kick ___ as the JDM ones. Why not just convert an american one to RHD?? That would be different. Although, once the car is released to the rest of the country the car isn't going to be that unique anymore anyway. Its just gonna be like every other "niche" car, i.e. PT Cruiser, VW New Beetle and the Mini Cooper.you need to READ my post i said i am paying ALL my bills off early FIRST before i even start the process of buying this vehicle. and as far as importing and $$$$$ and everthing else, the scion xb and the toyota bb is the same Exact vehicle, same engine same body, same bumper, it should not cost much to make it legal to drive in the states!! at least this is what i have been led to believe, PLEASE tell me if there is a major difference, i am thinking emision wise that all i need is a cat for the exhaust, and maybe o2 sensorsor what not. but to have a 4wd BB right hand drive metalic orange(hotlave #2101,hahaha) would be awesome. and think about this- all the money it would take to paint, 4wd conversion,right hand drive conversion, plus buying the scion xb and all the JDM products i would have to buyto make it a BB, VERSUS buying a toyota bb straight from japan with all that stock and paying an extra 900 to have it shipped to the states, and what money it would cost to legalize it for the states- to me seems alot less$$$ than the later! if i am wrong tell me!

where are you pulling the numbers for all of this? just curious, I have a personal interest in importing JDM vehicles (no thanks to Opr8r and his damn K-Car Magazines, but those will have serious safety issues for importing)

as for just bringing a car straight over here, if there is a difference such as an 02 sensor, you have to have something to receive the data and process it, which if the JDM didn't come with that it's going to be next to impossible (or very $$$$) to just get that to function..

unfortunately with so many other wonderful things the devil is in the details.. for instance I'm not sure if the Hot Lava is made in Japan, as I thought it is a special color for the USDM...

hot lava avail in japan, yes. http://www.toyota.co.jp/Showroom/All_toyota_lineup/bB/

hot lava avail in japan, yes. http://www.toyota.co.jp/Showroom/All_toyota_lineup/bB/ yes it is called metallic orange in japan but it is the same color as hot lava, ask doc he knows(hahahaha sorry doc, but you are the man for the RS v1) and all i can say about the toyota BB and imorting here to the us, is that it will be a HELL of a lot less than importing a skyline, or even and integra type r , but all of that will be found out in the future, i just posted this to tell people my plan IMO in the long run a 4wd toyota BB orange shipped to the states will cost about the same as a fully loaded xb -add ????$$$$ for legalizing it, and i still have the only(or by this time -the one of only a few in the states) 4WD right hand drive TRUE JDM toyota BB. this is all just MY OPINION though

4wd .... that's the reason to import one :twisted:

there is a difference in the bumper sizes though ... they had to make them bigger to get DOT approvial

4wd .... that's the reason to import one :twisted:

there is a difference in the bumper sizes though ... they had to make them bigger to get DOT approvial that is cool i can get a usdm bumpers for cheap, still think the engine will pass inspection with out much $$ put into it, it is the same econo engine in the scion same specs 108BHP, should put out passable emmisions.

New Toyota 4WD bB = $17,800USD + $900USD for shipping = $18,700USD

yes it will be 18,700 to import it but i think it is worth the extra money for the 4wd right hand drive, think about it! for only 4,000 more you have this in the states , still don't know how much it will cost to legalize it to drive in the states, but if you all could give me any more ideas on what will be changed or cost money to do, tell me so i know what i am getting into and how much! i already know about the bumpers that is cheap, and accually the whole thing should not be that much becausei can get all the american parts needed, it is the same vehicle with the same engine(i am beeting this into the ground) as the scion, should just be minor things like the bumpers and the catalitic coverter, anything else tell me!

The RS1 is color coded 4R8, that is the same color code that has been available in JPN for a while, it was a color that wasnt going to be USDM but they decided to for a limited production of that color.


Doc

hope you like automatics - all BBs comes that way.

why don't you try to be totally different and import that truck-lookin BB?

New Toyota 4WD bB = $17,800USD + $900USD for shipping = $18,700USD
I checked shipping prices from Cali to Jersey about 2 months ago and the cheapest price I found was around $900. Is that a real number you got qouted for shipping or are you guessing?

New Toyota 4WD bB = $17,800USD + $900USD for shipping = $18,700USD
I checked shipping prices from Cali to Jersey about 2 months ago and the cheapest price I found was around $900. Is that a real number you got qouted for shipping or are you guessing?the 900.00 above that kwicslvr is talking about is the shipping from japan to the states(i think cali,) i would have to pic it up there and ship it to where ever i live at the time them spend some real time regestering it.

Yup, that was the price listed on one of the import sites from above to ship it here. I completely agree though for that cost to have a 4WD one would be aewsome. The 2WD one from the site was only $200 less.

Yeah either pick up a 4WD bB or the Open Deck bB, it's not even worth it if you get anything else because all those parts you gan just import.

As a matter of fact I know of someone that imported the 4wd bB already but it was in an pretty bad front end accident. Had the rear drive train and everything.

FYI the 4WD exhausts exits the Left side of the bumper versus the regular 2wd bB's and xB's

It also has mirrors on both sides of the Sunshade visors and power folding side mirrors. Also of course the front bench seat. The column shifter. The front dome light.
A friggin arm rest.

Man now that I think about it that would definitely be a nice import porject.

Good luck to ya bro

New Toyota 4WD bB = $17,800USD + $900USD for shipping = $18,700USD
I checked shipping prices from Cali to Jersey about 2 months ago and the cheapest price I found was around $900. Is that a real number you got qouted for shipping or are you guessing?the 900.00 above that kwicslvr is talking about is the shipping from japan to the states(i think cali,) i would have to pic it up there and ship it to where ever i live at the time them spend some real time regestering it.



PLUS taxes, and duties. Good luck getting it DOT approved. That'll cost another grand or too.

So you have three options:

1. Keep it here under a year, after the year register it in Canada, then bring it back. Do that every year

2. Pay tons of cash for a authentic bB. When you might be able to find a front clip from a distributer

3. Wait 20 years and you can bring it over no penalties. All they do is wash the undercarriage to get the "JDM" soils off.


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it will cost a lot more then what people have posted. there is tons of paper work and emissions laws here in the states. good luck doing it, but it will be about 2000-6000 to the import and be able to register to drive it. not worth it in my book.

thank you for the posts! i appreciate the remarks and the watching my back parts, thank you all.

i am going to PM our very own japanese bb owner on this site( n bb) and find out the difference in the engine and exhaust, because i still do NOT think that there is much difference in the set up of the 1.5L japanese engine and the 1.5L american engine and i really do no think it will cost 6,000.00 to make it legal to drive in the usa. maybe 2,000.00 maybe less maybe more who knows? but i will find out.

Sounds good, it would be nice to see one rolling around. As far as costs to import, its the customs fees that are pricely. I know the BB would have to pass emissions tests and all. You may be able to contact Motorex to find out some info, since they import the Skyline. :)

or you could always buy one thats been wrecked and make a project restoration car out of it...
My buddy did that to a porsche, it took a while but he got it exactly how he wanted it... then sold it for way too cheap.

hard to tell from the pics, but i think this might be a jdm bB. The rear spare resembles J-spec spares.

www.scionlife.com?camoscion

None of you know what you're talking about unless you've done it.

I've bought 4 cars from batfa and had them shipped over for friends and customers. Becoming DOT legal doesn't require much at all.

If you want to know anything, ask.

Andrew

Importing and making it legal wouldn't be worth it to me, but...to each it's own.

For help with credit, try www.clarkhoward.com and www.ihatefinacialplanning.com. Also, try to close newer accounts rather than older established accounts. Check your credit report every other month and dispute inaccuracies. Don't apply for any more credit. A car note is probably not a good idea for another year. Depending on your credit, you may need to wait longer than that. I hope the sites help.

Good luck to you!

so what does it require, there are a few cars I'd eventually like to bring over from Bafta ???

i think you should import a vitz :D
good luck with eevrything hope everything works out for yah

ya..good luck.

youd be better off financing a loan and getting a US spec version.

so what does it require, there are a few cars I'd eventually like to bring over from Bafta ???

Here's one, for example, that I brought over:

1993 Skyline R33 GTS-T - $4,600.
Shipping - $900.
To legalize - $400. (Adjusted Headlights, Put in THREE cats!, Checked all fluids to make sure they meet DOT requirements)
Insurance - Had to get collector car insurance. They charge you insurance based on overall value and rarity of the vehicle.

So, about $5,900 for a legal R33 RHD Skyline plus Insurance.

And if you wanted to finance this car, you would HAVE to get a loan before buying it. So, get the loan from a credit union, wire transfer the $5,000 (for example), and see the car in 4-6 weeks at the port of choice, mine being Savannah.

Andrew

damn, thats tight... did you get rid of the cats after you got approved ???

OK, importing a Skyline I can understand.... but there is little benifit in importing a bB... the Chassis has been crash tested and is approved for US... the JDM engine offers little power... and the JDM offers a 4WD.... its not like your going off raoding in a bB.... personally it sounds like alot of BS for little benifit, and you will probably pay more and still need a loan!!

Good luck cleaning your credit and bills though.... always a good start.

i had thought about importing a hotlava bb awd but they only offer them in auto and with the awd and 108hp, the bb would be like maybe 85hp with awd. not what i'm looking for not to mention the decrease in milage. import a used skyline for less. i saw a few newer models for like $15k that you can import. that would be worth it imo.

In terms of emissions, Japanese engines lack an EGR port, the US SPEC cars have EGR ports. The EGR port is in the head, so you need a USDM 1NZFE head. EGR stands for Exhaust Gas Recirculation. Customs will be all over the car when the container is opened, and right then and there the car must pass a ____ load of tests. I know a guy who has a RHD car, its a _____. I want a RHD Vitz Turbo, but its prolly not gonna happen. Your'e better off getting a xB and converting it to JDM spec and keep it LHD. Ive seen Lefts hands that kick ___ compared to RHD JDM cars.

but paying them off early will!!!!

Trying to offer some advice here but paying your bills off won't make your credit rating better. Credit card companies and banks loan you money to make money from you. If you pay your credit cards off early, or make double payments or anything like that they don't benefit, therefore you don't benefit to the max that you can.

The best way to establish credit is to charge something small, pay the minimum each month then it's paid for in like 2 months. You made each payment, the bank gets there money and a little extra and you don't get slammed with high interest rates over a long period of time. For example, I have 2.9% interest rate on my Jeep. In 3 years, for the amount I financed I only will pay under $600 total in interest. The key to good credit is not to finance a lot, only finance what you have to, get a low interest rate and pay it off as scheduled. This builds a longevity of good credit and good credit ratings.

HTH......check with a bank and ask them whether or not you will get better credit paying it off early, or making your normal payments on time. You will be surprised to hear the answer. Again, banks/credit card companies loan you money to make money on your interest.

Good luck with the Bb...would be cool to sport a RH Drive box.

Actually, his problem is, probably, a debt-to-income problem.

He has more debt then he should for the money he's making (I'm just guessing from the number of bills he listed).

In that case, paying them down, and fast, will help a lot.

There are 2 ways to mess your credit up.

1) Pay late (duh)
2) Have your cards/loans almost maxed out.


If you have a card that has a $5000 limit and you have $4950 charged on it, it looks bad and your beacon score will go down. If you pay that same card (or car loan, home loan, whatever) down to below 50% of the max (in this case, less then $2500) your score will go back up.

Also, the more cards you have outstanding the harder it is to keep your beacon score up. Pay off/close all but one, maybe two, credit cards. Keep the available limits down and keep the balances down too.

Long term items like car/home loans look best, let those ride for at least 2 or 3 years. But you can pay them off early without much problem.

Keep your debt to income ratio well below 50%. If you make $2000 a month you want less then $750 in bills. The closer you get to $1000 the harder it gets to get a loan.

But, if you pay off and close all your credit cards, but still have car loans, your beacon score will go up, you will have an easier time getting a loan too.

If you have a low credit score because of late payments, get rid of the damn cards as fast as you can and close the accounts. But keep car/home loans for the full term and always pay 5+ days early. With this it will take about a year, maybe 18 months, to really move your beacon score, but you've lowered your ratios, your outstanding debt is lower and you are proving you can make steady payments over time.

As a real estate agent and a loan officer, I could tell you if your looking to improve your credit score, here is the easiest things to do.

-Pay on time.

-Don't have too many lines of credit open. But do have some established.
Basically lenders want to see 2 years of stability.

-Don't inquire into your credit too often, once a year is fine. But remember when you apply for a credit line, the company will run your credit. If your test driving cars, to checking home loan rates, protect your social security number, don't give it out readily unless your ready and really interested.

-If your trying to get a start and establish credit, one of the best places is your local college campus, they often have credit card companies offering low student rates.

And lastly, just because you have problem credit, or bad credit history, doesn't mean that you can't get a loan, it just means you might not like the rate...