Hey i am waiting for the SC to come out, prob never will, so i feel like putting a cai on my tc to add some hp for now, the question i have is: is it better to go with a cai or a short ram, also should i wait for the aem or just put the k&n on there, i just dont know that much about the intakes, could you guys help me out, Thanks

K&N is backordered till July

its all opinon i guess but cai and the k&n is what i went with.

CAI could potentially give you more horsepower because of the colder air you're feeding the motor. Short ram will feeding your motor hot air due to the placement of the intake filter. Its up to you what you choose, bad thing about CAI, if you dont have a bypass valve, you can suck up water into your motor which is very bad. *Only while driving through puddles of water*

I would highly suggest the WR Secret Weapon Intake. At this time over 200 scion tC's are running this intake making it the #1 choice by scion owners.

I would highly suggest the WR Secret Weapon Intake. At this time over 200 scion tC's are running this intake making it the #1 choice by scion owners.

^^ I got my WR intake from these guys..Good price and fast shipping.

if you really dont care so much bout which intake you buy?

buy watever is cheapest.

personally i lik the K&N

^^^^I too have the WR Sw from Creative Compacts. I highly reccomend CC for an intake or any other part you might want. The customer service there is fantastic.

A lot of people have opinions on CAI vs SRI, or vice versa. IMHO, you aren't going to see more than 1-2 hp gains from one type over the other. The biggest reason you get gains from an aftermarket intake (cai or sri) is that it is going to be significantly less restrictive than the stock setup (intake/airbox).

I would highly suggest the WR Secret Weapon Intake. At this time over 200 scion tC's are running this intake making it the #1 choice by scion owners.

^^ I got my WR intake from these guys..Good price and fast shipping.


^^^ im with them ^^^

Creative Compacts/James is the way to go, fast, reliable, and well worth the money.. From a business majors standpoint... James has this thing under wraps.. good stuff bro! Keep it up!

real quick. i dropped like $1500 at Creative compacts and James has followed up with me everytime something ships out. i second what the Gotti has said!

How much better is the sound when you put the WR on, thanks for all the feedback guys

How much better is the sound when you put the WR on, thanks for all the feedback guys

:bow: Great! I love it, and with the Megans.. :bow: :bow: Even better! I got the TRD exhaust, and it sounds great.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/StuGotti/Picture026.jpg

nice i have the trd exhaust no header though, i want one but i dont want to void the warrantee, cool i prob go with the WR then

K&N is backordered till July

This can't be entirely true. I just spoke with Hopup racing today, and the K & N, I ordered 2 weks ago just arrived today and is being shipped. I should recieve it by Saturday.

BREAKING NEWS!!!!
INJEN is releasing a short ram intake for the TC within the next two weeks. I emailed them and got a response today.
"I do not have an exact date but it will be withing 2 weeks."
Although im not sure if its any different than the one that is for the camry.
But INJEN is way better then WEAPON R or AEM. Its about the same as K&N but i like short ram intake better. ENJOY

NOTE: Do not buy Megan they rust and need to be replaced within months, my friend was a victim. DC or if you can afford it.. ALPHA!!!

I run an Injen on my Mazdaspeed Protege and have been pleased. They use K&N filters and the fit is good.

FYI,

I've had a short RAM intake on my TC for awhile...but seems like u lose alot of torque with the SHORT RAM IMO.

I would go with either K&N CAI or the upcoming Injen.

Short Ram draws in too much hot air IMO.. i've had mine for nearl 7 months..and all it did was be loud and eat up gas...not necessarily more power cuz u lose TORQUE. That seems to be the common prob with aftermarket intake especially for tC.

Short Ram in My opinon Big Noise makers nothing else, how can you benefit from taking that hot @$$ air from the engine bay and putting it into the engine and expect gains thats my opinion plus the gains from the short Ram where probaly gained from a big @$$ stadium fan placed directly in front of it, i like the K&N felt the difference and you cant get hydrolock in the TC as much as people say, thet filter is coverd by the wheel well plastic so even if you splash into a puddle there is more than enough plastic guarding the filter from soaking anything in, the air is pulled from the left opening, the only way to get water into the intake is if you park your car in a freggin lagoon which i know we are all smarter than that

NOTE: Do not buy Megan they rust and need to be replaced within months, my friend was a victim. DC or if you can afford it.. ALPHA!!!

I dont know what your talking about on the megan headers they dont rust and I have had them on for 2 months and alot of rain storms here in NY and no rust unlike the DC's I have seen with rust spots all over. The problem with the megan is the cat can go bad.

I have the weapon R, just got it and sounds really deep and loud.

do they have heat shields for the short rams? and i'm taking about like a whole wall blocking off the whole section kind of thing. Not those little guard things they sell on ebay for $9.99

A heat shield will block some of the air going into the intake which will defeat the purpose of even getting one its bad enough that they place the intake behind the battery for that just keep your stock intake

yeah heat shield restrict the air flow so it actually does more harm than good but i may be wrong, had short rams b4 never bothered with heat shields, in my opinion the weapon R sits to far back in teh engine bay to actually do any good, but people do say they like it so Cai or short ram its your choice both are great products

K&N is backordered till July

Actually I just got mine three days ago and oput it on today, from an ebay seller named; exotictruck-auto ... Oddly enough this truck parts seller has some car parts for Scion ;) Love it though, and has a ncice sound.

K&N is backordered till July

This can't be entirely true. I just spoke with Hopup racing today, and the K & N, I ordered 2 weks ago just arrived today and is being shipped. I should recieve it by Saturday.

Mine will be here Thursday. Just in time for a holiday weekend and some fun with the car. Got mine here. http://www.4filters.com

i would get the CAI with secret weapon-r air filter... that thing can suck some serious air.... and weapon-r claims their filter, filters better than K&N,AEM, and Injen....

plus that SWR filter is big and fat...

i would get the new injen..its cai and sr and iinjen is a good product...but from what i hear the weapon r its pretty good so its a toss up imo

I'm digging the K&N CAI so far. Nice fit, high quality.

you may want to take a look at this article:
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=64555&start=0

I just installed my K&N Typhoon CAI last week, and I got
to tell you I love it. I can notice a huge difference in HP,
accelleration, and in tourque.

Short Ram intakes are noise makers, I dunno about maybe
losing torque tho.

^^^ Lol, clearly you haven't read that article in the link I posted.

Considering half of those intakes are not availabe for teh TC that article is all bull crap, how does that affect us the test car wasnt even a TC, so how does that prove anything? MOst people went for the short ram because of hydrolock. One the wheel well plastic covers the most critical part of the filter in the CAI "THE BOTTOM" so even if you do splash water it doesnt even hit it and two the filter sits in far up into the bumper meaning if you do hit a well depp puddle the filter is still high up enough to not suck water in.

Considering half of those intakes are not availabe for teh TC that article is all bull crap, how does that affect us the test car wasnt even a TC, so how does that prove anything? MOst people went for the short ram because of hydrolock. One the wheel well plastic covers the most critical part of the filter in the CAI "THE BOTTOM" so even if you do splash water it doesnt even hit it and two the filter sits in far up into the bumper meaning if you do hit a well depp puddle the filter is still high up enough to not suck water in.

ummm...just because *some* of the intakes in that article aren't in production for the tc, doesn't make the data false (or the article bullcrap, as you put it).

Since you clearly missed the point of the article, I'll spell it out for you here:

What that article should be telling you is that you aren't going to see much difference *at all* (i.e less than 2-3 hp) between brand-x intake, and brand-y. Even between a CAI and a SRI.

So....that beiing said...why would you pay an extra $50 or so for brand-x intake that is going to give you 2-3 hp gain over brand-y intake?

Now if you like K&N over weapon-r (or AEM vs injen, or whatever), and you want to buy that brand, based on their name/reputation, that's totally different. But for all the people saying: "I'm going with brand x because it makes 9whp more than brand y", that's just stupidity.

Several people have said it before: the benefit you are going to gain from an intake is the removal of the restrictive air box, and the fact that aftermarket intakes are polished, not baffled, as the stock intake is. You aren't going to see a major benefit between a SRI and a CAI. PERIOD. If you look, the Injen SRI got better numbers than the injen CAI.

oh man dont take it as pun towards you, i saw the point, i see the point you made, but you also have to see why the short ram make more hp over CAI, mainly because when they test the SRI, they place a big fan blowing cold air into the filter and the engine bay with an open hood thus keeping cold air flowing thruought the whole test in the the SRI, now do the same test with no fan, and closed hood the results would not be the same because there is no more cold air just hot, which IMO does no good, but its just my opinion i may wrong, and sorry for saying it was bull crap didnt mena it that way, just stating that its like saying the injen SRi makes more power in a Vtec than it does in a VVT-I, two different motors two differnt ecu's they wont respond the same thats all

I read the article after I made my post.

I would like to see intake dyno's done with a tC.

I agree that its obvious that the weapon r is good overall
but I bring up the point again....the test car wasnt a tC.

Intakes perform differently on different cars.
SO really, intakes are just intakes IMO

I just like the K&N CAI b/c of the look

oh man dont take it as pun towards you, i saw the point, i see the point you made, but you also have to see why the short ram make more hp over CAI, mainly because when they test the SRI, they place a big fan blowing cold air into the filter and the engine bay with an open hood thus keeping cold air flowing thruought the whole test in the the SRI, now do the same test with no fan, and closed hood the results would not be the same because there is no more cold air just hot, which IMO does no good, but its just my opinion i may wrong, and sorry for saying it was bull crap didnt mena it that way, just stating that its like saying the injen SRi makes more power in a Vtec than it does in a VVT-I, two different motors two differnt ecu's they wont respond the same thats all


Did anyone notice this on the main page of that article?

Our testing and evaluation was performed on a
1999 Honda Civic Si with 37,000 miles of service

I hate to say it but this whole thing is BS.
Completely different motor, and also look at the RPM levels
tC level cuts at 6500 RPM, the SI's goes to 8K

:ttth: All I have to say now

So in conclusion....

The Weapon R is the BEST intake to have........

IF YOU DRIVE A 1999 HONDA CIVIC SI!

So in conclusion....

The Weapon R is the BEST intake to have........

IF YOU DRIVE A 1999 HONDA CIVIC SI!

With the hood open and a big fan blowing on it

Did anyone notice this on the main page of that article?

Our testing and evaluation was performed on a
1999 Honda Civic Si with 37,000 miles of service

I hate to say it but this whole thing is BS.
Completely different motor, and also look at the RPM levels
tC level cuts at 6500 RPM, the SI's goes to 8K

:ttth: All I have to say now

Wow....I'm shocked. I'll explain it for you, since you don't seem to get how/why this information is relevant. I don't think anyone ever said "read this article to find out what the best intake for a tc is".

What *I* said was, and what the article is showing, is that almost *all* intakes, CAI or SRI, show extremely similar gains in HP. You don't find huge gains between one brand and another.

Yes, the civic motor is completely different than the tc's. However, the basic principle's will still apply. Why? because if you look at all the CAI intakes for the tc, and all the SRI intakes for the tc, the different manufacturers have extremely similar designs (respectively, ie, AEM's CAI looks an awful lot like the KN CAI setup, doesn't it??). Could that be because the constraints of the engine compartment pretty much dictate a lack of range for unique enginerring desgins???

In regards to Rpm's...yes the civic motor limits at 8K. How does that make the article BS? You can simply disregard any results over 6500 rpm's, since the tc is incapable (unaltered) of reacing those rpms. It would be different, and inapplicable, if the civic cutout below 6500, but since the civic goes beyond the the 6500 tc redline, whats the issue???

So in conclusion....

The Weapon R is the BEST intake to have........

IF YOU DRIVE A 1999 HONDA CIVIC SI!

With the hood open and a big fan blowing on it

Direct quote from the article:
(Link if you don't beleive me)
Click me (http://www.tprmag.com/issue/1/1_intakes.shtml)

After each intake system was installed on the vehicle, the factory ECU was reset. The tests were run with the hood closed. Each intake system had three chances to lay down their best performance possible. Seven minutes was given in between runs for cool downs.

Where does it say *anything* about a "big fan blowing on it"??????

oh man dont take it as pun towards you, i saw the point, i see the point you made, but you also have to see why the short ram make more hp over CAI, mainly because when they test the SRI, they place a big fan blowing cold air into the filter and the engine bay with an open hood thus keeping cold air flowing thruought the whole test in the the SRI, now do the same test with no fan, and closed hood the results would not be the same because there is no more cold air just hot, which IMO does no good, but its just my opinion i may wrong, and sorry for saying it was bull crap didnt mena it that way, just stating that its like saying the injen SRi makes more power in a Vtec than it does in a VVT-I, two different motors two differnt ecu's they wont respond the same thats all

I wasn't taking it personally...sorry if it came across that way :) ANd I wasn't meaning anything personal by what I said earlier (or what I'm writing now). I'm just baffled by why so many people are caught up in the marketing hype of a particular brand of intake.

If you read the beginning of the article...it clearly states all tests were perfromed closed hood. No fan :)

As far as two different motors, true....but the fact is, because of the engine bay layout in the tc, and the distinct lck of room in it, there isn't a whole lot of room for different designs. Thus, one CAI is going to look/perform very very similar to another CAI, and SRI's are going to look/perform similar to another SRI.

Keep in miind, it's not like there are moving parts in an intake. So really, what benefits you see are going to come from materials (how heat resistant they are), airflow/restrictiveness (aftermarket intakes remove the very restrictive airbox/baffles, and implement polished intakes), and placement.

You can pretty much rule out placement, at least between brands (not designs, i.e. between CAI's and CAI's, and SRI's and SRI's). Materials, aside from the filter itself, are pretty much all the same, for cost competitivenes. So really, now what you are looking at is: CAI design or SRI. And what does the article show? That there is a difference of 2-3 hp between a SRI and CAI.

If you think a CAI is worth $50+ more, just for 2-3 possible hp difference, by all means, spend the $50.

But if you think that spending more for a injen, or an aem, is going to give you noticeble performance gains, over a KN CAI, or an injen SRI is going to perform significantly over AEM CAI, then you're wasting money. In which case, I've got a turbonator fan for your intake to sell you :P

OK now I am starting to see your points.

Im sorry

No need to apologize! WE're all onhere for the same reason...to get useful information :) I'll apologize if I seemed like I was trying to ram that info down yours (or anyone else's throat), that wasn't my intention. I just want people to be informed about stuff, not get sold on a product by misleading manufacturing hype :)

No need to apologize! WE're all onhere for the same reason...to get useful information :) I'll apologize if I seemed like I was trying to ram that info down yours (or anyone else's throat), that wasn't my intention. I just want people to be informed about stuff, not get sold on a product by misleading manufacturing hype :)

Hey at least your supplying the info! Much props! :bow:

By the way i never got to try out the C/C's Short Shifter in ur car at the meet in april
I think I asked u about it and u said something bout the neutral spring? or something in that nature. I have it on pre order so i hope itsd worth the wait which im sure it is b/c James and them are very loyal

PM me for details...for once, I'm not gonna hijack a thread :)
I know the mods are in shock from this. Lol!

So in conclusion....

The Weapon R is the BEST intake to have........

IF YOU DRIVE A 1999 HONDA CIVIC SI!

With the hood open and a big fan blowing on it

Direct quote from the article:
(Link if you don't beleive me)
Click me (http://www.tprmag.com/issue/1/1_intakes.shtml)

After each intake system was installed on the vehicle, the factory ECU was reset. The tests were run with the hood closed. Each intake system had three chances to lay down their best performance possible. Seven minutes was given in between runs for cool downs.

Where does it say *anything* about a "big fan blowing on it"??????

A fan is always necessary , otherwise the the engine will get damaged at the higher RPMs with no air flow going through the radiator. Also the fan is necessary to simulate to some extent wind moving through the front grille into the engine bay. In addition, in the real world,at speed air moves through the engine bay much quicker and at a much higher volume than any fan can blow on a dyno setup.

The way I see it....just wait! I want an intake too but I desided to wait for about a year. Lets face it party ppl, things are only going to get better for the tC. Besides by then there will be enough info on the current products to make a good decision, also maybe by then these current products might be a lil cheaper. BUT if you have to have one now then I say you should go with the K&N CIA because it draws in colder air, colder air is more dense and causes a more powerful cumbustion within the engine equaling more power. While SR intakes only open up the air flow with the draw back of taking in hot air from the engine bay.....Hope this helps