anyone know what spacers would run on an xb or is it specific to the rim? they are 17's mod concepts. if it is specific is there a price range you could give me? thanks for any help.

Also, would a place like discount do this? it's too late and i cant call tomorrow so thanks for any help

spacer are made for the bolting patern, and they have diff thicknesses
4 x 100 5mm
4 bolts at 100mm spacing with a thickness of 5mm

anything thicker than 5mm you will need to get longer studs. the lug nuts will not get enough threads to be safe.

one ton garage has some of the nicest ones.



and moved to corner carvers.....

I Have been using 10mm Spacer up front on my xA with No problems for over 3 months now under pretty harsh driving (AutoCross and New Orleans roads) and havent had an issue with the stock studs, I've got 13 full turns on my Lugs with the spacers installed which is more than the "minimum" amount of turns recommended.

Definitely hit up www.onetonegarage.com first.
Their rear spacer shims actually go behind the brake. Much safer and the build quality is incredible.

those are the hub spacers...they only work on the rear.
ashe...i'm gonna have to call you out on this one.
i get 13 full rotation on the stock tires with out a spacer.
with 10mm spacer and our thread pitch you at best could have 4-5 (depending on rim) full rotations on the lug.
i does hold...i'll give you that but it's risky. it's a lot of pressure on 4 threads in a lug...

i will belive when i see...

when you mean rotations you mean how many turns the lug bolt goes on?

I have the H&R 15mm wheel spacers in the rear I had to use the supplied longer wheel studs ... The thickness of the wheel spacer depends on how wide you want to go and what offset your wheels are ... I have a +32 offset on my 7.5" wide wheels and in order to get them flush in the rear I need a 15mm spacer ... In the front I only needed a 5mm offset with my +32 7.5" wide wheels to make it flush ...

If you want to go up to an inch or wider than that go with this
http://www.adaptitusa.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=27

I have used the 1 Inch one on and off depending on which wheels Im running and they are great.

ordering from thease guys is good.Turnaround time is around 4 to 5 days.

Wow, that's a hell of a spacing!

It would be cool to go to some nice 5 lug with spacer like
that though, huh?

those are the hub spacers...they only work on the rear.
ashe...i'm gonna have to call you out on this one.
i get 13 full rotation on the stock tires with out a spacer.
with 10mm spacer and our thread pitch you at best could have 4-5 (depending on rim) full rotations on the lug.
i does hold...i'll give you that but it's risky. it's a lot of pressure on 4 threads in a lug...

i will belive when i see...
When I get Home today I'll pull a wheel and take a Pic. I have no reason to make it up. Of course I'm not using stock wheels Or lugs but OTG spacers and Stock studs.

i've got the one ton 5mm and 10mm spacers.
i' have three sets of rims (stock, winter 17's and PIAA 18's)

i know there will be a variance in the thickness of rim under the lugnuts and there are diff lugnuts.
My 18's with a 5mm spacer i get about 8 full rotations.(I'll double check...)

if you get anything over 5 full rotations i will be impressed...

Don't the OTG spacers go behind the wheel hub so they have nothing to do with the lug nuts ... I have the H&R spacers that go on the front of the hub, over the lug nuts and I needed extended studs ...

Don't the OTG spacers go behind the wheel hub so they have nothing to do with the lug nuts ... I have the H&R spacers that go on the front of the hub, over the lug nuts and I needed extended studs ...

Yes they do. Very easy install and make a huge difference.
And they are not even one of my sponsors...........lol

Got home and dropped a wheel, I was wrong about the 12 turns (no idea where I got that from), It was actually 8.5 turns which is still more than the 6.5 that Tirerack recommends for 12X1.5mm Lugs

Snapped a few pics but the only one that turned out actually legible is this one. Just a hair under 3/4's of an Inch protrusion http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/Ashe_WCM/th_Protrusion.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/Ashe_WCM/Protrusion.jpg)

Don't the OTG spacers go behind the wheel hub so they have nothing to do with the lug nuts ... I have the H&R spacers that go on the front of the hub, over the lug nuts and I needed extended studs ...

bzzzzz. wrong! try again....

OTG sells both. hub and wheel spacers.
and i already made that point if you read the whole thraed.

from the OTG site....
hub spacer
http://www.onetongarage.com/products/rear_spacer_shim/front_page_200x200.jpg

wheel spacer
http://www.onetongarage.com/products/wheel_spacer/front_page_200x200.jpg

Got home and dropped a wheel, I was wrong about the 12 turns (no idea where I got that from), It was actually 8.5 turns which is still more than the 6.5 that Tirerack recommends for 12X1.5mm Lugs

Snapped a few pics but the only one that turned out actually legible is this one. Just a hair under 3/4's of an Inch protrusion http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/Ashe_WCM/th_Protrusion.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/Ashe_WCM/Protrusion.jpg)

that sounds better than 12 turns...
and indeed thats enough to be safe....

my rims have a lot of material under the lugs. i had about 8 turns with a 5mm spacer
but like you said. 6.5 turns is the limit for being safe. so whatever rim/spacer you use, make sure the lugs have enough to hold on to....


Thanks Ashe

has anyone ran into issues with the shear strength of the bolts shipped with the OTG shims (attaching the hub to the suspension arm)? Had a tech look at it, was concerned about the 8.8 grade bolts instead of something stronger...

thoughts?

8.8 not good enough????

thats a really good grade bolt. stronger than some of the bolts in your drivetrain....

tell your tech to go back to school to learn what a good bolt is....

8.8 has a MINIMUM yeild of 92,000 psi
the only metrric rating that is better is 10.9...

check it out for your self....

http://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-information/Bolt-Grade-Chart.aspx

I know my wheels haven't fallen off yet.:D

8.8 has a MINIMUM yeild of 92,000 psi
the only metrric rating that is better is 10.9...


yeah, i had referenced that exact site before talking with him... i think he was playing it safer than sorry since tensile strength was listed, but not shear strength... i did have another shop look at them and no flags were raised...

thanks for the input guys, i really appreciate it.

and don't forget thats for one bolt....
there are four at each corner...

i can tell you that i've had mine on for almost a year and not a single concern or issue with them...

what about things like this that have studs made into them would these be a better alternative ? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42614&item=7981248777&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

what is the address to the OTG site?

www.onetongarage.com


JC

well, i have always been a fan of hubcentric spacers. especially those from H&R. Hubcentric keeps the wheel aligned on the hub instead of relying on the studs for lining your wheel up which is almost impossible and will cause vibration. the hubcentric spacers make sure that your wheel is properly aligned and does not allow for a vibrating wheel.

well, i have always been a fan of hubcentric spacers. especially those from H&R. Hubcentric keeps the wheel aligned on the hub instead of relying on the studs for lining your wheel up which is almost impossible and will cause vibration. the hubcentric spacers make sure that your wheel is properly aligned and does not allow for a vibrating wheel.

i agree hubcentric is the only way to go. only time i would consider a non hubcentric is if the spacers were < 3mm