I was just wondering if any of you members had a trailer hitch installed on your xb's yet. I need to get one to tow my four wheeler around... thanks

Scion doesn't recommend towing with these cars.

I'm sure they don't recommend it, but im going to be towing a very small trailer and 1 four wheeler.. Im pretty sure its not going to be a prob. Just need to find a decent looking hitch.

I too need a trailer. For the stroller and those trips to the store that result in more than three bags of groceries.

Not knowing much about towing, I'd bet that UHAUL wouldn't allow you to tow a 4 wheeler behind an xB, Think of the wieght ratio. But I really don't know.

due to the fact that Scion doesn't want it done with their cars, nobody in their right mind would produce a trailer hitch for these cars. The liability is too great, these cars don't have the engine, trans, clutch, or brakes for towing. You may find some guy to make a custom one for you, but he'll be putting himself and his business at a VERY high risk.

guys my 4 wheeler only weighs 350 lbs.... geeesh

http://www.miamiquads.com/mine2.JPG

plus the weight of the trailer....plus the weight of passengers and gear......equals more then the car is designed for. Not to mention the extremely short wheelbase of these cars.
Tow at your own risk.......

I also own a Volkswagen bus, old air cooled ones. If they make hitches for those old 1600cc 50hp buses and bugs, they will make them for scions.

your going to tell me that this is worse than towing a jet ski with a 1993 honda civic cx? I used to tow my ski all around town in that little honda that was ten times slower and lacked more power than my xb... Im not asking if I should or shouldn't do it, im asking if you guys had seen a trailer hitch for the xb.

I also own a Volkswagen bus, old air cooled ones. If they make hitches for those old 1600cc 50hp buses and bugs, they will make them for scions.

nuff said..

I do a LOT of towing and a small 4x5' trailer in normal towing circumstances will not cause much of a problem. the one thing you need to be concerned about is uphill towing especially through mountains...you risk overheating the tranny. Other than that, you should be ok. But to answer your question, I do not know where you can go to get a hitch.

guys my 4 wheeler only weighs 350 lbs.... geeesh

http://www.miamiquads.com/mine2.JPG


Mmmmm that looks scary. Does that have more HP than the xB? Maybe you should put a hitch on IT :)

I've seen small cars with hitches.. someone has something that'll fit I'm sure. Some sort of universal fit thing from jcWhitney ??

the one thing you need to be concerned about is uphill towing especially through mountains...you risk overheating the tranny.

i guess im lucky here in Miami the steepest thing we have is speed bumps... lol

I've heard someone is using a xb to tow a funny car up the return lane...and I've had a bunch of people ask me if I think it could tow a motorcycle...I really don't know...I could see where uphill could be a problem ...anyone tried any of this??

The one thing I probably should have mentioned is...if you have a hitch attached to your xB and you develop ANY kind of tranny or similar problems...I almost guarantee that the warranty will not be honored.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3420&highlight=tow+hitch

scion is not for towing.

I heard that the Xb was based on the Toyota Echo sub-body. Hidden Hitch offers a hitch for the Echo. I couldn't find a new Echo on the lot to compare. You might check this out.

Towing a small trailer and contents weighing a few hundred pounds isn't much different than hauling three passengers around (as long as the trailer wheel bearings and tires aren't creating much friction and rolling resistance), except the load is located behind the vehicle instead of near the center of gravity. Because our boxes are so light, the additional weight and the impact on handling would be noticeable. But short hauls of very light loads over fairly flat terrain should be doable.

I doubt you will find a commercial bolt-on hitch, as I believe the rear chassis and suspension are different from Echos although the drivetrain is the same. If you look under your box near the rear, you will see two tiedown fixtures bolted very solidly (two bolts each side) to the substructure (these fixtures are metal tabs with cutouts to attach hooks or straps for shipping, I assume). These tabs could be removed, and a custom-fabricated cross arm for a hitch ball mount could be bolted in their place. Ground clearance and rear bumper clearance would be a little tricky.

It would be easy to remove the custom hitch mount with just four bolts when it isn't needed. Or if you should blow the hell out of your auto tranny towing a travel trailer going over the continental divide, and want to try to get it covered under warranty.

It would be great to rig up a small cargo box trailer, like you see behind motorcycles, to provide more storage space for a road trip. If a bike can haul one, so can the xbox (damn, too bad Microsoft already uses that name. I wonder if their attorneys will sue the crap out of me for this post.)

like i posted before, it IS possible or else they wouldn't have one on this Bb. i've been checking around for places to custom fabricate one. the trick is going to be getting the receptacle to come out under the rear lip and have a reversed drop hitch on it to make the trailer level. IT WILL BE DONE! i have no other way to get my jet ski to the lake!

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/unique/bbpickup_06.jpg

I also own a Volkswagen bus, old air cooled ones. If they make hitches for those old 1600cc 50hp buses and bugs, they will make them for scions.


There are a lot more variables that go into the towing capacity of a vehicle than the size and power of the engine.

You could tow 5000 pounds with a 20 horsepower engine if you want. It all depends on your gearing. You could have very short gear ratios and be able to pull that 5000 pounds, but you won't be able to tow it at highway speeds. When that much pressure is applied on gears turning that fast, the tranny will heat up and eventually develope problems.

Also, you need to consider how you will tow the trailer up a hill, BUT ALSO HOW YOU WILL STOP THE TRAILER. The Scion has adequate brakes for it's size, but it'll be terrible at stopping with 400+ pounds being towed behind it.

ROOF RACK

I want to get a tiny trailer made for my pocket bike. :lol:

KiL

I want a hitch as well. But not to tow I want one for a bike rack. I dont want the strap on kind. I perfer the kind that go in a towing reciever.

Just FYI, but Southeast Toyota Dealers offers a hitch as an option. It is $300~, but hey do offer it.

MattB

where....at what dealer? :shock:

hhmmm..I just went seaching for it, but dont see it. Sorry for the misleading info, but I would have bet $$ that I saw/heard it avail. :?

MattB

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so if the 4 wheeler weighs 350, how much does the trailer weigh ? Somehow I see something bad happening...

EEK! :!: I would`nt advise towing with the xB at all. Since the manual prohibits it ,if something were to go wrong as a result of towing it would`nt be covered under factory warranty.

ok,everyone is getting too criticle.geez.its a yes or no answer.hahaha
i went to the idrc show and there was an xb there that had one.he loves it.he trailers stuff all the way to mexico with it.i wish i took pics

plus the weight of the trailer....plus the weight of passengers and gear......equals more then the car is designed for. Not to mention the extremely short wheelbase of these cars.
Tow at your own risk.......

Ditto, Scions are not utility cars :wink: . Not by any extent of the imagination.

Nathan 8)

I also own a Volkswagen bus, old air cooled ones. If they make hitches for those old 1600cc 50hp buses and bugs, they will make them for scions.


There are a lot more variables that go into the towing capacity of a vehicle than the size and power of the engine.

You could tow 5000 pounds with a 20 horsepower engine if you want. It all depends on your gearing. You could have very short gear ratios and be able to pull that 5000 pounds, but you won't be able to tow it at highway speeds. When that much pressure is applied on gears turning that fast, the tranny will heat up and eventually develope problems.

Also, you need to consider how you will tow the trailer up a hill, BUT ALSO HOW YOU WILL STOP THE TRAILER. The Scion has adequate brakes for it's size, but it'll be terrible at stopping with 400+ pounds being towed behind it.

Ii guess I will leave my fat A$$ sister at home!

I am not going to say it is right or wrong to put a hitch on an xB. If the manual says no way. FINE. The manual says no way :wink: .

The speed limit signs say 55 (maybe slightly higher), is everyone here who is ranking on the trailer hitch abiding the speed limit? You know driving at high speeds is dangerous, since the suspension and aforementioned brakes are SOO inadequate :? .

And you guys want turbos and superchargers tooo......go the speed limit safely? :shock:

And you guys put 18" rims with v rated tires sooo.......you plan to exceed 130mph to a maximum of 149mph? :shock:

Come on, The guy wants a hitch. So do I. Whats the big deal. He is here asking for help. You can make a lot points to support YOUR OPINION, but if your opinion is meant to prove your point, how are you helping him. We all have the tuner blood in our veins which is why we bought boxes. We all want to make our boxes different and suit our needs. He has a need, try to help if you can. :D

jeeze get off his back who cares if it doesnt look good he needs it so why not i mean why put a wing on a fwd car? atleast its usefull

put electric brakes on the trailer....upgrade the clutch if its manual....put a cooler on it if its an auto.....should be fine for hauling what u wanna do....
just take off easy.....with the electric brakes on the trailer no worries

put electric brakes on the trailer....upgrade the clutch if its manual....put a cooler on it if its an auto.....should be fine for hauling what u wanna do....
just take off easy.....with the electric brakes on the trailer no worries



:D :D Now there is some good advise!! :D :D

I would add a hitch to mine, But only a hidden hitch type that hides behind the bumper. Give them a little while there will be a bolt on for it. I think I would add a water and oil temp gauge at the same time, but mainly cause the no temp gauges thing has bothered me since day one. I would tow lighter things (not the harley in it's enclosed trailer). But I would tow a Sport bike on one of those alum. single rail bike trailers. I would say 700-800 lbs. max loaded on the trailer correctly. If you took your time and didn't push it, I doubt this would cause a problem.

And i will say it agian if a VW can do it, so can an XB.

I also found where a stock harley can tow a 200 lbs trailer w/ 200 lbs of crap. 400 gtw I would assume a xb could do quite a bit more then that.

www.zztrailer.com/hd_mod_002.html

I was just wondering if any of you members had a trailer hitch installed on your xb's yet. I need to get one to tow my four wheeler around... thanks

I was at the dealer today, they're not selling them here yet, I stopped to dream anyway. I crawled under the xb and the echo and although I took no measurments, they look the same with tie down brackets on both sides. Seems like it would be an easy weekend project to make this work. A carefull mod of the skirt or a few beads with the old arc welder would allow you to pull your four wheeler.
http://www.kentsievers.com/hitch.jpg (alt+p)

Last week one of the people attending the SCIENERGY I.E meeting had a hicth on his XB. He told the group he hauled a small trialer and his family from southern Cali to Cancun and back, with no problems. It can be done. He did say he had to go to 4 fab shops before someone was willing to do the work. :lol:

Yeah i have a 02' YZ426, (218lbs) and i would love to tow it to the tracks.... i was thinking a one rail trailer (under 200lbs?) so your looking at about 450lbs total including riding gear. Thats like 2.5 passangers and some lugage :lol: . So i dont see the prob....

I was thinking about this too ... possibly having a small enclosed trailer towed behind the xB for carrying craft stuff for the wife. Nothing heavy, about 1K total between the xB and the load ..... hmmmmm. I dont want to viod that extended warrenty either though. :?

curt hitch when i talked to them said as soon as toyota released an xb to them that they were going to get on it due to theover welming request for a hitch

Okay, I've done the small car towing a small trailer thing.

I had a 1992 Convertable Metro LSi. I used it to pull my jetski all over central texas.

I lived at Ft Hood and would tow the ski down to my dads house on the southside of houston at least twice a month. Hell, my ex-wife used it to pull a small uhaul trailer, loaded down, from savannah, ga to ft hood, tx. She had no problems.

The metro never had a problem, not pulling the ski, putting it in the water or pulling it out.

Actually, there were times when I could pull my ski out better then the trucks could pull their boats out because it was front wheel drive.

Anyway, here is how the tow hitch works (like the one shown above, very much like the one UHaul put on my Metro). You have to drill 4 holes in the bottom of the car (usually in the spare tire well). Then they put some metal bracing in the car, the hitch under the car, and bolt them together.

The biggest issue would be trimming the skirts up so it looked right. Also, most of these smaller hitches are not "hide-a-hitch" style and the arm cannot be removed.

If my small ___ metro, with a 1-liter/3-cylinder engine can pull cross country, then the xB should be fine.

I would recommend (if you have an automatic) getting a tranny cooler. And leave the overdrive off anytime you are flooring it, passing or pulling away. (I'd only turn it on once I got to cruising speed, if I were doing this). My Metro was a 5-speed, and it would pull in 5th down the highway all day long.

Hello All,

Sorry to bring up the trailer hitch for the XB thing again. It seemed to get everyone excited for all the wrong reasons. I don't want to tow a Winnebago across the divide.

What I do want to do is get a hitch so I can mount one of those handy bike racks instead of putting on roof bike racks. I know that it will get in the way of my back door, but I'm OK with that.

If anyone knows of anybody making the receiver hitch thing for an XB, please let me know. I'm in Florida, so driving to California might be a bit much, but since I get such good gas mileage with my Scion, I'm willing to drive pretty far.

All the best, Shoebox

why dont you take the seats out, and load the 4 wheeler in the back? just get a tarp and a sheet of plywood to protect the bottom of the xB... and find some where to tie the sucker down...

Yes, this is a duplicate post from another thread,
but I though it was important.
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I have finished building the trailer hitch for my xB.

I made it from 1 ¼ box tubing and existing 1 ¼ receiver parts arc-welded together.
The application is purely bolt on, so it can be removed at a later time.
The only cutting I had to do was a 2" hole through the rear bumpers ground effects, which can be covered by a plastic trailer hitch plug.
Total weight is 31 lbs and it strengthens up the rear bumper considerably.

Now I can use my trailer hitch mount bike rack!


I will post photos and details of the build when I get my digital camera working again.

:D

:idea:

My friend just bought this mini pop-up camper (Aspen Classic) for about $3500 that he tows with his big touring motorcycle.

I want to get one for my xB or build something similar.
Anyone else have information on these?

http://www.trailmasterinc.com



:)

Nice Shee, I've got a Predator 500.

I built a hitch and mounted it on my xB. I tow a Motocross bike on a 4'x6' trailer all over the place. I never even know it's back there. I can understand their recommendations, but I'm takin' my bike with me when I travel. I spoke with the dealership and it doesn't even affect the warranty. Good luck!