What do you guys think about salavge title scions? I've been getting pretty good deals, and reselling them for 10-12G's for a registered scion xb. Based on what color and mileage...

no on salvage. it will have problems i can guarantee it.

ID BUY ONE... not for that much money but hell.. some cars are salvage cuz they had excessive water damage.. u never know.. but im not skurrd.. id do it..

It would have to have a really good history before I'd even look at it. I've looked at salvage cars in the past and said no every time. Usually salvage cars are used for major parts - body panels, interiors, glass, etc. No one is makin' moves on a xB stock car circuit yet. When that happens there will be a maraket for salvage vehicles.

I'd buy a salvage, but certainly not for 10-12 G's. Prolly the most I'd pay is 8 for a 2004 or 10 for a 2005. Ain't nothing wrong with a good deal on a fixer upper tho :clap:

Im sorry but the thought of buying a salvage scion is absurd. the car cost 14k base. If you cant afford that go get a kia.
DISCLAIMER!!!!
Not a stab at your current financial situation, i dont know you. Just a blanket statement about the though.t of buying a salvaged scion. No Offense

the only reason I would buy salvage was if I could get it *dirt* cheap...like say $5K for a tc, and *only* if it was water damage only. I'd totally turn it into a show car :)

would you eat a sandwhich out of the trash that I ran over? j/k

if you are inclined to do so, . . . i say begin customizing!

I would buy Salvage once I had it on the lift....and Salvage should be 30% less than whole sale on the car....otherwise buy new or a good used deal that isn't salvaged

i wouldn't buy a salvage vehicle

they're called SALVAGE for a reason

Maybe a theft recovery at a good price.

WW 8)

I've been looking for a salvage xb to turn into just a show car. Most that I have found would be good just for personal use, no resale. You wouldn't get your money back out of it on a resale unless it was just wrecked and didn't have a mark on the title. There have been a few on ebay for around 5-6 grand. Both were hit in the front though and needed airbags and frame straightening.

I think salvaged cars should only be used for parts or for destruction in movies, like the ford explorer from jurassic park that got destroyed by the t-rex. And no, I wouldnt even think of buying a salvaged car.

I hear all your opinion, but salvage to me is the way to go, warranty from the dealer is pretty much BS. I see people sell some salvage cars for like 11-12g's for an 04. For instance if I told you I had a 04 hot lava 5K miles auto for $12,500. Hit in the front but airbags did not deploy. I think that it would be a good price. Or maybe a 05 with 2800 miles on it, rear ender but the hatch was still in good shape for 11,500 registered with title and plates? You're talking about a saving of 4-6000 for a car that has a branded title. As long as the workman ship is good, and the car drives and looks good. Why not?

I hear all your opinion, but salvage to me is the way to go, warranty from the dealer is pretty much BS. I see people sell some salvage cars for like 11-12g's for an 04. For instance if I told you I had a 04 hot lava 5K miles auto for $12,500. Hit in the front but airbags did not deploy. I think that it would be a good price. Or maybe a 05 with 2800 miles on it, rear ender but the hatch was still in good shape for 11,500 registered with title and plates? You're talking about a saving of 4-6000 for a car that has a branded title. As long as the workman ship is good, and the car drives and looks good. Why not?

Do you understand what is meant by "salvage"? "Salvage" is when a vehicle sustains so much damage that the cost to repair it exceeds the value... insurance companies "total" the vehicle and offer the remains for sale as "salvage". then again, maybe I'm the one that doesn't understand. :rofl:

The damage you describe would not be enough to total a vehicle and sell it for salvage.

Keep in mind that many lenders and insurance companies will not insure it nor loan money on it ..... check first before you buy !

I hear all your opinion, but salvage to me is the way to go, warranty from the dealer is pretty much BS. I see people sell some salvage cars for like 11-12g's for an 04. For instance if I told you I had a 04 hot lava 5K miles auto for $12,500. Hit in the front but airbags did not deploy. I think that it would be a good price. Or maybe a 05 with 2800 miles on it, rear ender but the hatch was still in good shape for 11,500 registered with title and plates? You're talking about a saving of 4-6000 for a car that has a branded title. As long as the workman ship is good, and the car drives and looks good. Why not?

YOu might be comfrtable with that idea, but clearly the rest of us are not. You asked us what we thought, we told you. If you are trying to conviince us over to your opinion on the matter, you're definitely beating a dead horse. I say that only because you said "Say for instance I told you I have a 04...."we're happy for you if you have a scion that you like. Great for you, if you got what you consider a great deal on it. The rest of us don't share your thoughts on it being a great deal, or it being somethign worth buying (some of us for that price, some of us for *any* price).

As far as the warranty from the dealer being BS....are you talking about the factory warranty????? Or are you talking about somethiing the dealer sells in addition to the factory warranty. If its the former, then I know you are insane to think that the factory warranty is worthless. If it's the latter, please explain what you are talking about.

Nope. I'm not in a situation anymore that I can risk buying a salvaged vehicle.

When I crashed my XB, I first thought, I hope they can repair it. But then I thought, I don't want to be driving a repaired vehicle.

Teenager car? Living at home? Other vehicles available to you? I say go for a salvage.

Primary vehicle? Don't do it.

Do you understand what is meant by "salvage"? "Salvage" is when a vehicle sustains so much damage that the cost to repair it exceeds the value... insurance companies "total" the vehicle and offer the remains for sale as "salvage". then again, maybe I'm the one that doesn't understand. :rofl:

The damage you describe would not be enough to total a vehicle and sell it for salvage.

This case is not always true. For instance you just bought and 05 xb, and had it for 2 months, some idiot rear ends you. You're not gonna want them to fix it, no matter how extensive the damage, nor minimal. You're gonna fight the adjuster and have him get you a new one. other cases are theft recover, the airbags and interior are stolen. The airbags from the dealer with seatbelts are about $2000 without tax and labor. The seats themselves are about that price too. Total loss in that case. The wiring harness from the ecu cut, too much labor involved. total loss their. The cars dont have to be smashed to a pyle to be total loss. Their many instances that people fix cars that are meant to be junk. Times you'll get a car that is vandalized ie slashed seats or keyed doors. Too much liability involved to repaint the car and repair/replace the seats. The repair shop has to warrant the work, and sometimes the insurance company would rather total loss then have to deal with issues later with workman ship. They rather total out cars and maybe raise your insurance if another instance occurs. Cars these days are designed differently, to be repaired effieciently and precise by easily removing spot welds and sections. I'll post pics to show you guys.

Actually, cars these days are designed to be *safer*, with things like crumple zones, and engines that drop to the cement to provide a better crash barrier. I'm pretty sure stuff like that isn't designed to be made for easy repairs (/sarcasm).

The problem you are going to face with salvage vehicles is that there is a tremendously vast negative stigma associated with a car with a salvage title. that's because the majority of salvage titles are due to accident and or damage that requires rapairs that exceeed the value of the car, just like it was entioned above you. Most people won't bother to even hear *why* the car was salvaged. And for those that do, they are going to want *proof* of the reason, not just an explanation by the repair guy.

You can keep arguing all you want. We've all told you how we feel. You keep trying to change our minds. At this point, I'm assumin you are trolling for replies.

As far as the warranty from the dealer being BS....are you talking about the factory warranty????? Or are you talking about somethiing the dealer sells in addition to the factory warranty. If its the former, then I know you are insane to think that the factory warranty is worthless. If it's the latter, please explain what you are talking about.

as in BS, one of my buddy's has an 03 celica, one day the engine sounded like it was down one cylinder, car started shaking and making a putting sound, and the check engine came on. He called the dealer and made an appointment to take it in. When he got their, they were talking about over revving and engine sounds like it was dragged. They said some crazy stuff like we're gonna tear it down and see what happens, but if they find bent valves from over revving, they're gonna charge him $800 labor for tearing it down. And he would be liable for the repairs. Once they started working on it, they found out that one of the spark plugs broke in the cylinder, they just vacuumed it out and replaced it. No real customer service or benefit of the doubt, They haggle you about the warranty and he bought it certified used with the extended warranty. So he was covered both ways, but they still gave him a hard time. Why pay 1500-2000 for the extra warranty that 9 outta 10 times doesnt pay for itself. But we're getting off the subject, didnt mean to side track on warranty issues.
Salvage cars to me are excellent way to go. It's not for all, and you gotta be selective and make sure you're getting a good car. :love:

This case is not always true. For instance you just bought and 05 xb, and had it for 2 months, some idiot rear ends you. You're not gonna want them to fix it, no matter how extensive the damage, nor minimal. You're gonna fight the adjuster and have him get you a new one.
I have never, NEVER been able to do that (in the 32 years of purchasing and owning new vehicles)... nor has anyone I've known.

other cases are theft recover, the airbags and interior are stolen. The airbags from the dealer with seatbelts are about $2000 without tax and labor. The seats themselves are about that price too. Total loss in that case. The wiring harness from the ecu cut, too much labor involved. total loss their. The cars dont have to be smashed to a pyle to be total loss. Their many instances that people fix cars that are meant to be junk. Times you'll get a car that is vandalized ie slashed seats or keyed doors. Too much liability involved to repaint the car and repair/replace the seats. The repair shop has to warrant the work, and sometimes the insurance company would rather total loss then have to deal with issues later with workman ship. They rather total out cars and maybe raise your insurance if another instance occurs. Cars these days are designed differently, to be repaired effieciently and precise by easily removing spot welds and sections. I'll post pics to show you guys.
Again... the only time I've seen an insurance company total out a claim is when the cost of repairs exceeds the value of the vehicle.

Hey Partsguy, I'm not seein' you have an audience here. Sure, some people may want to buy a vehicle that needs work, but any 'true' xB that is salvaged is going to need $8000 just to get it back to stock condition. That's more than just interior, airbags and a wiring harness. You are looking at body parts and a paint job. Unibody work on a salvaged vehicle isn't always something I trust.

I've done t-bone repairs and that's the only one I have faith in because it is the least structural. If the repair involves a pillar or frame, man, you could be asking for many future headaches.

Any salvage purchase would be a case-by-case decision and I would never do it without touching the vehicle and getting inside and underneath it.

Hey Partsguy, I'm not seein' you have an audience here. Sure, some people may want to buy a vehicle that needs work, but any 'true' xB that is salvaged is going to need $8000 just to get it back to stock condition. That's more than just interior, airbags and a wiring harness. You are looking at body parts and a paint job. Unibody work on a salvaged vehicle isn't always something I trust.

I've done t-bone repairs and that's the only one I have faith in because it is the least structural. If the repair involves a pillar or frame, man, you could be asking for many future headaches.

Any salvage purchase would be a case-by-case decision and I would never do it without touching the vehicle and getting inside and underneath it.

True that! but t-bones arent always the way to go, sometimes they dont line the doors up well, from the hinge repair, and sometimes the roof is damage, and if a scion would be tboned, it would have roof damge. I rather have a rear ender with minimal 1/4 panel damage. But for sure I hear where all of you are coming from. I just wanted to see the perspective of this community on scion life. I would'nt buy a salvage car without seeing it. I've been really successful in selling cars as a salvage builder, but the demand of a scion is NUTS, and the prices are outrageous! Sometimes you could get cars for 1/2 price. I have a 2005 rsx type s for $13000 obo. I dont wanna sit here and argue, just wanna hear everyones opinion. :silly:

I've noticed in the last coupla years people have been mis-using the term t-boning. They thing a t-bone collision is one where the car is impacted square on any side. In truth, a t-bone collision can only occur in the front and damages the radiator support strut, front bumper, grill, possibly the hood and radiator. Severe cases would include the radiator, hood and engine components. Extreme cases would include steering and engine components and likely the suspension.

Collisions on the side is not classic t-boning. That is just a side impact.

http://www.partsguyonline.com/cars/scion/dsc01589.jpg

Take a look at this car, does it look like it was a total loss? The only thing replaced was the rt fender, front cover, and rt headlight. The a/c and cooling unit is original cars has 11K miles. The airbags did deploy and needed to replace complete unit with belts and sensors. Does this car look like a junker total loss?

I've noticed in the last coupla years people have been mis-using the term t-boning. They thing a t-bone collision is one where the car is impacted square on any side. In truth, a t-bone collision can only occur in the front and damages the radiator support strut, front bumper, grill, possibly the hood and radiator. Severe cases would include the radiator, hood and engine components. Extreme cases would include steering and engine components and likely the suspension.

Collisions on the side is not classic t-boning. That is just a side impact.

it depends, who does the boning. The impacting car is usually frontend damage the reciever is the side damage. So you figure out who bones who? I'm not a reciever! you? :rofl:

http://www.partsguyonline.com/cars/scion/dsc01589.jpg

Take a look at this car, does it look like it was a total loss? The only thing replaced was the rt fender, front cover, and rt headlight. The a/c and cooling unit is original cars has 11K miles. The airbags did deploy and needed to replace complete unit with belts and sensors. Does this car look like a junker total loss?
like I said I would put in on a lift see how the frame was repaired etc...

Biggest reason not to buy salvage..Carfax..guarantees no resale value

I would never buy a salvage titled car for an everday commuter. I figure the resale value is toast and you're never completely sure if the car is problem free. If the car was going to be stripped and become a track car or show car, thats different...but I still wouldn't buy one.

If you have ever taken a look at some pic's at wreckedscions.com? These cars have a crumple zone that basically starts at the front bumper and ends at the rear. Sure, some of these were lower speed incidents that only affected the plastic cover, but most any impact from the front where the air bags are popped resulted in significant structural damage. If the fender was wrinkled from a rear impact and the doors no longer align it is the same deal. The box is made of tin! I'll bet you could make almost an entire xA from the recycled steel from the trunk and hood of a '72 Cadillac.... ;^)

I guess you really have to have a good understanding of is how a title was assigned as "salvage". I have seen salvage cars that were listed as salvage with the claim that only the front fender was replaced. I have seen salvage cars that were never in an accident, but had been given to a salvage yard and the DMV would only title it as "salvage". As was noted in another posting, salvage may be a theft recovery with some minor interior damage (but you have to assume that the engine was abused). It may have been as serious as rollover. Either way, a salvage title should be avoided like the plague unless you are looking for a parts car. A possible exception would be if the owner had some before and after pictures and documentation of repairs or a serious and extensive documented history, but even then it can easily take 20-50% off the value of a vehicle.

Ever seen the bad e-bay postings for "repairable" salvage vehicles? I am talking about roll over and 30MPH front impacts with an immovable object. How anyone could ever believe it is worth it to repair an xB with damage so severe that the roof is wrinkled and the doors will not close is beyond me.

Caveat Emptor

I'd never touch a salvage title on a car I can buy new for $14k. The term "salvage" will dog that car for the rest of its life - for future repairs, tire wear, road noise, wind noise, body integrity, rust, warranty, resale, insurance, and potentially safety. Every time a repair question comes up you'll wonder if it's because the car was salvaged.

As someone said earlier, if it was super cheap and intended to be a second car, then maybe. But I've owned good bargains before that turned out to be very expensive to work out all the bugs on - definitely not worth it.

Biggest reason not to buy salvage..Carfax..guarantees no resale value

I'm not too familar with carfax's guarantee of resale value, but for example, if you goto kbb.com and rate a vehicle I have "05 scion xb burgundy auto 3K miles" branded salvage, rate it, with major repair done and salvage title, it'll come out as $12,600. I know I could get $11,500.

I would never buy a salvage titled car for an everday commuter. I figure the resale value is toast and you're never completely sure if the car is problem free. If the car was going to be stripped and become a track car or show car, thats different...but I still wouldn't buy one.

Car is total loss if the damage of the car is 50%-100% of the cars value. If you got into an accident and the damages were more then 50%, but the insurance company didnt want to totalyour car out, instead they decide to repair your car. You wouldnt drive it around daily? ic....nice paperweight!

i would buy a salvaged xb but i would only use it for parts and expiriments before doing them to my xb

I'd never touch a salvage title on a car I can buy new for $14k. The term "salvage" will dog that car for the rest of its life - for future repairs, tire wear, road noise, wind noise, body integrity, rust, warranty, resale, insurance, and potentially safety. Every time a repair question comes up you'll wonder if it's because the car was salvaged.

As someone said earlier, if it was super cheap and intended to be a second car, then maybe. But I've owned good bargains before that turned out to be very expensive to work out all the bugs on - definitely not worth it.

14K new? plus tax liscense and destination fee, automatic is alittle bit more. Dont tell me everyone here paid $15G out the door for their xb? I have an 05 scion xb auto for $11,800 registered, includes liscense smog and registration. You're talking about a $3-5g difference for a branded but almost same condition car. I'll show you pics of this car.

as far as super cheap, for sure you could get one for $8000, but you pay for what you get. Sounds like super bondo to me for that price.

The only way I would even consider a salvage is if I was incredibly desperate for a ride and the asking price is no more than 50% of the blue book value. Otherwise, no way in hell.

14K new? plus tax liscense and destination fee, automatic is alittle bit more. Dont tell me everyone here paid $15G out the door for their xb? I have an 05 scion xb auto for $11,800 registered, includes liscense smog and registration. You're talking about a $3-5g difference for a branded but almost same condition car. I'll show you pics of this car.

as far as super cheap, for sure you could get one for $8000, but you pay for what you get. Sounds like super bondo to me for that price.
I paid $14.8K total... out the door (tax & tags included). 05 STD w/Alloy wheels.

I still want to know what insurance company is going to total out an xB that only needs a new fender.

Car is total loss if the damage of the car is 50%-100% of the cars value. If you got into an accident and the damages were more then 50%, but the insurance company didnt want to totalyour car out, instead they decide to repair your car. You wouldnt drive it around daily? ic....nice paperweight!

Paperweight...probably not, especially considering that such a hypothetical car wouldn't have a salvage title. If it were me, I'd sell it quick & (relatively) cheap, then maybe buy a new one of the same model. For a couple of thousand simoleons I'd have a new car with far less chance of long-term headaches.

Car is total loss if the damage of the car is 50%-100% of the cars value. If you got into an accident and the damages were more then 50%, but the insurance company didnt want to totalyour car out, instead they decide to repair your car. You wouldnt drive it around daily? ic....nice paperweight!

Paperweight...probably not, especially considering that such a hypothetical car wouldn't have a salvage title. If it were me, I'd sell it quick & (relatively) cheap, then maybe buy a new one of the same model. For a couple of thousand simoleons I'd have a new car with far less chance of long-term headaches.

Yeah but you just forked out 15G for a new one, only had it for 2 months and only drove for 2K miles, you're gonna sell it for "cheap", say 12g's? or are we talking 8g's, your sh*t outta of luck. Gonna lose all that money and buy a new one with less headache? that less headache just turnt into a 18-23G's headache.

But I still love all of your opinions, and totally respect it, but if you dealt with me, you'll buy salvage.

Here in San Diego used xBs are selling for the same price as new one's. I have seen several on dealer lots going for up to 2k more than sticker. And they aren't RS 1s or 2s, either.

The market for xBs here is too hot. Any car with a salvage tag is toast in this market and wouldn't be considered except for parts, turning into a custom ride or into a show-only car. You would have to be desparate if it were to be a daily. Also, insurance companies don't or won't insure salvage vehicles for their true value. Liability only. There's that to consider.

Biggest reason not to buy salvage..Carfax..guarantees no resale value

I'm not too familar with carfax's guarantee of resale value, but for example, if you goto kbb.com and rate a vehicle I have "05 scion xb burgundy auto 3K miles" branded salvage, rate it, with major repair done and salvage title, it'll come out as $12,600. I know I could get $11,500.
what I am saying is folks avoid them once they run a carfax

i thought t-bone was when one car hit the side of another . . . T you know . . . T . . .
___ <-- one car
. | <--- the other . . .

am i off?

i thought t-bone was when one car hit the side of another . . . T you know . . . T . . .
___ <-- one car
. | <--- the other . . .

am i off?

In a sense, yes. But the car suffering the t-bone is the car with the front end damage, not the car with the side damage. If a car hits a pole and damages the radiator, that is called t-boning as well.

At least this is how several collision shops and 2 insurance companies explained it to me in the past. I was believing just like what you are now describing.

But hey, things change all the time and definitions change too. There isn't a bible on this stuff but enough people start believing the wrong way and the definition starts changing...

Stay clear from a salvage title! My rule of thumb is a salvage is Worth 50% of the retail value. you are better off looking for a good deal on a "normal" Scion...

what I am saying is folks avoid them once they run a carfax


true that! But you can see a crappy car, over a nice car. Alot of people here in so cal are open minded to salvage vehicles. Not everyone has the credit nor the money to straight up, go out and buy a $15-16,500. Maybe they dont have a perfect driving record either, gonna cost about 3-4000 a year for bad/newbie's drivers, so they're gonna buy liabilty anyways. Salvage vehicles are not for all. But for many, it's a nice option.

Stay clear from a salvage title! My rule of thumb is a salvage is Worth 50% of the retail value. you are better off looking for a good deal on a "normal" Scion...

If you goto KBB.com they will give you an estimate of your cars value ( clean title or not), you can rate it with the branded title, and for sure it's not half of the retail value. You might be able to buy a rebuilder for 50% of the retail( as you see on recycler and ebay), but the parts and labor that is required to make that car solid, will make the cars value at least 65-85% of the retail value, and at that price registration/smog/title are all included.

I'm gonna get a new salvage xb, I'll let you guys decide how it comes out.

I'm gonna get a new salvage xb, I'll let you guys decide how it comes out.
I'm more interested how much you buy it as salvage, what was the insurance company that totalled it, and what specifically was wrong with.

I'd never touch a salvage title on a car I can buy new for $14k. The term "salvage" will dog that car for the rest of its life - for future repairs, tire wear, road noise, wind noise, body integrity, rust, warranty, resale, insurance, and potentially safety. Every time a repair question comes up you'll wonder if it's because the car was salvaged.

As someone said earlier, if it was super cheap and intended to be a second car, then maybe. But I've owned good bargains before that turned out to be very expensive to work out all the bugs on - definitely not worth it.

14K new? plus tax liscense and destination fee, automatic is alittle bit more. Dont tell me everyone here paid $15G out the door for their xb? I have an 05 scion xb auto for $11,800 registered, includes liscense smog and registration. You're talking about a $3-5g difference for a branded but almost same condition car. I'll show you pics of this car.

as far as super cheap, for sure you could get one for $8000, but you pay for what you get. Sounds like super bondo to me for that price.

I assume the $11.8k car you are talking about is a salvage title. My new one was $14.2 (MT, no options), the options added $1k, and PA taxes, registration, and other fees would have been ~$1k more. So the out-the-door price was about $16200, but I had a trade-in which reduced my actual payout substantially.

Anyway, in my case the $3-5k difference is worth every penny for me to know that what I have is new versus many unknowns. I'd rather pay near-new prices for something that isn't salvaged, but just "used". We just have different tolerances for risk and value.

We just have different tolerances for risk and value.


yeah, it's also accessibilty to parts and free labor.

How about an opinion form someone that has owned a salvaged vehicle?

My Dad has a used car dealer's license and one of my uncles is a mechanic. They use to do repairables and then try to sell them for a profit. AT BEST, you can get about 66% of blue book price for the car when it is totally repaired. That was there rule of thumb. Never buy a repairable that you can't put back together and sell for ( AND MAKE A PROFIT) for more than 65% of blue book value. So that said, you'll sell a salvage 2004 Xb with average miles for like $8700. Not $11,500. Trust me it won't work

By the way, I bought my 2004 Xb w/ 11,500 miles for $12000 from a Dodge dealership with a CLEAN TITLE AND NO ACCIDENTS EVER. I know Scions are more popular on the West Coast, but if you can't buy and put a Scion Xb back together for like $8000, you are going to lose money.

My Dad and uncle put a salvage car back together for me. The car was a nightmare. About two weeks after it was put together, the transmission had to be pulled because something broke loose when it was in an accident and need to be repaired. The car had nagging electrical probelms for the first couple months. In General it is not worth it to buy a salvage vehicle. The car will have probelms. And when you sell the car to some buyer, and they come back a week later complaining of all these problems what then?

If you want some advice about salvage vehicles, her you go. BUY TRUCKS. Pick up trucks mainly. The people who are going to buy them are much more likely to accept a salvage title. They are also easier to pull apart and have more room in the engine compartment to work on.

How about an opinion form someone that has owned a salvaged vehicle?

My Dad has a used car dealer's license and one of my uncles is a mechanic. They use to do repairables and then try to sell them for a profit. AT BEST, you can get about 66% of blue book price for the car when it is totally repaired. That was there rule of thumb. Never buy a repairable that you can't put back together and sell for ( AND MAKE A PROFIT) for more than 65% of blue book value. So that said, you'll sell a salvage 2004 Xb with average miles for like $8700. Not $11,500. Trust me it won't work

By the way, I bought my 2004 Xb w/ 11,500 miles for $12000 from a Dodge dealership with a CLEAN TITLE AND NO ACCIDENTS EVER. I know Scions are more popular on the West Coast, but if you can't buy and put a Scion Xb back together for like $8000, you are going to lose money.

My Dad and uncle put a salvage car back together for me. The car was a nightmare. About two weeks after it was put together, the transmission had to be pulled because something broke loose when it was in an accident and need to be repaired. The car had nagging electrical probelms for the first couple months. In General it is not worth it to buy a salvage vehicle. The car will have probelms. And when you sell the car to some buyer, and they come back a week later complaining of all these problems what then?

If you want some advice about salvage vehicles, her you go. BUY TRUCKS. Pick up trucks mainly. The people who are going to buy them are much more likely to accept a salvage title. They are also easier to pull apart and have more room in the engine compartment to work on.
nice opionion...

well first off 04 xb for 8700, not too many out there, unless you're buying junk. The kinda junk out there that's making a bad rep for "salvage". $11,500 for a 05 BCP xb auto with 2700 miles, that's a nice price.

Your dad and I seem like we're in the same business. :clap:

Sorry to hear your car was a nightmere to rebuild. Your Uncle & Dad didnt do a good job the first time around. Good repair man would've detected the electrical and tranny problem right away. Sounds like the first stages of any repair. Your car sound like it sustained it's major damage to the left-front of the car, where the frame beam was bent possibly crushed and damaged the tranny and harness, possibly the fuse box.. I've seen that. But that's all part of the salvage car. And it's on who does the repair, and if the repairs was done right. Sounds like that's what you get for about $8000 and 66% rule of thumb. You really get 66% of the car. :rofl:

The car will have problems only if the repair was done poorly. You pay for what you get.

I love my salvage xb, I just dont like the BCP, I wished I wouldve kept my white one, but my friend bryan from AZ has it now, and that was salvage too.I've been driving the BCP around quite a bit now, has like 3600 miles on it now, and counting. No problems, drives really nice and almost perfect. knock knock (on wood)

Salvage vehicles are fine if they are for yourself. But the general public isn't going to buy Salvage unless it is deeply discounted. Many insurance companies will only let you put a salvage vehicle on liability, and many finnace companies won't deal with salvage vehicles at all ( I know mine wouldn't). Most used Xb's around me are going for $13000. Why would anyone buy a salvage vehicle for $11,500? It's not enough of a discount to soothe their worries. Not to mention the hassle you have to go through to get a salvage vehicle registered. In CT it's a pain in the butt because you have to drive all the way up to Hartford during regular business hours, and even then there is no gaurantee that the inspector will get to your car.

Trust me. My Dad dealt with a bunch of salvage vehicles, and selling them is a real pain. By the way, my Uncle is an excellent mechanic. He also was one of the Head machinists for 3M, and he also worked for the Defense department. The problem with the tranny was not with the harness. If I remember correctly, some of the teeth on the fifth gear actually broke during the accident.

I understand that there will always be a market for Salvage vehicles, but the economics has to be behind it. Supply and demand. Is there really a demand for salvage Xb's? The Xb is such a small, light car. I'd be pretty worried about problems down the road. Because let's face it, a repaired vehicle is never the same and it will always have extra problems down the road.

I'd buy a salvaged car I've had two of them one was an s-10 drove for 12,000 miles bought for 2,000 sold 2 years later for 6,500. I have a 86 bodydropped toyota in my drive way now that has a salvage title, it was stolen and recovered insurance let us buy it from them so it has a salvage title only reason it was totaled the interior was completly gutted and brain was missing. I would not pay 12,000 for a salvaged Xb, my insurance will cover it but not for that much money only for about half of that.

I understand that there will always be a market for Salvage vehicles, but the economics has to be behind it. Supply and demand. Is there really a demand for salvage Xb's? The Xb is such a small, light car. I'd be pretty worried about problems down the road. Because let's face it, a repaired vehicle is never the same and it will always have extra problems down the road.

True that but hence the price difference.

I'd buy a salvaged car I've had two of them one was an s-10 drove for 12,000 miles bought for 2,000 sold 2 years later for 6,500. I have a 86 bodydropped toyota in my drive way now that has a salvage title, it was stolen and recovered insurance let us buy it from them so it has a salvage title only reason it was totaled the interior was completly gutted and brain was missing. I would not pay 12,000 for a salvaged Xb, my insurance will cover it but not for that much money only for about half of that.

Actually, the insurance company will insure this car for that much. The Kelly Blue Book on a salvage title xb is around 12,500.

I'm selling this car for $11,500 that includes
California tax,liscense,registration,smog & brake light inspection, chp inspection, and plates. Hassle free, Haggle free, Great car. Tax here is 8.25% (10G would be $825), registration ($200),smog & brake ($100),chp(is free),california plates (included in registration). Do the math the cars is selling for about $10,000. Thats a steal for a brand new car with excellent workmanship and 100% solid car.

If you can find someone to buy that Xb for $11,500, more power to you. But it is not brand new, and you must be very careful when you sell the car and make sure the person buying it knows it has a salvage title. I don't know if you are a licensed dealer, but if you are and the person who buys your salvaged Scion complains to the Dept. of consumer Affairs, complaining that you sold them a salvaged vehicle that you called "new" or in "mint condition" it could land you in a world of trouble and maybe in a court of law.

Caveat emptor, because when the person who buys that Scion tries to sell it 2 or 3 years later and they can't even get half of the book value they'll be ____ed. Or when they try to trade it in and the dealer won't even consider it or will only give them a couple thousand for it. And believe me, I've seen it happen.

And like I said earlier, nobody will finance a salvaged vehicle. Are there a lot of people who will drop $11,500 in cash on a salvaged Xb? Maybe. Seriously though, Good Luck and be careful and cover your ___ when you sell it. Make sure your bill of sale spells it all out.

And like I said earlier, nobody will finance a salvaged vehicle. Are there a lot of people who will drop $11,500 in cash on a salvaged Xb? Maybe. Seriously though, Good Luck and be careful and cover your ___ when you sell it. Make sure your bill of sale spells it all out.

Actually they do have companies that do finance and coverage full insurance for salvage.

Two thumbs up for the concern!

When I went to finance my Xb, I checked a lot of different financing companies and they all said that they would not finance a salvaged vehicle in their terms. Maybe there are some small, obscure companies that will finance a salvaged vehicle but most will not. There is no way they can accuratley determine the value of a salvaged vehicle. It's too much of a gamble for them. And financed vehicles MUST be on comprehensive insurance and some insurance companies will not allow you to put comprehensive insurance on a salvaged vehicle.

But, why would you finance a salvaged vehicle. The idea behind financing is that it allows you to own a vehicle that you cannot purchase outright. Buying a salvage vehicle is a way to save money. At the price you are asking for your salvaged Xb, a person would loose a lot of the savings from buying a salvaged vehicle by financing it. It doesn't make sense.

Not to mention they would be upside down on a salvaged car in no time.

When I went to finance my Xb, I checked a lot of different financing companies and they all said that they would not finance a salvaged vehicle in their terms. Maybe there are some small, obscure companies that will finance a salvaged vehicle but most will not. There is no way they can accuratley determine the value of a salvaged vehicle. It's too much of a gamble for them. And financed vehicles MUST be on comprehensive insurance and some insurance companies will not allow you to put comprehensive insurance on a salvaged vehicle.

But, why would you finance a salvaged vehicle. The idea behind financing is that it allows you to own a vehicle that you cannot purchase outright. Buying a salvage vehicle is a way to save money. At the price you are asking for your salvaged Xb, a person would loose a lot of the savings from buying a salvaged vehicle by financing it. It doesn't make sense.

Not to mention they would be upside down on a salvaged car in no time.

either way I'm still selling for $11,500...just waiting to get my 50 post so I could post on classified :P

i buy savage ride any day if the price was right :P

This is my current BCP b4 the repair, the front is damaged from towing, they didnt use the tow hook.

http://www.partsguyonline.com/xB/10.jpg
http://www.partsguyonline.com/xB/11.jpg
http://www.partsguyonline.com/xB/12.jpg

This is after the repair, nice but sucks someone put 2 liscense plate holes in rear bumper yesterday.

http://www.partsguyonline.com/xB/13.jpg
http://www.partsguyonline.com/xB/14.jpg
http://www.partsguyonline.com/xB/15.jpg
http://www.partsguyonline.com/xB/17.jpg

What you think?

This was my old Polar White, on eibach(black) springs. Salvaged!

http://www.partsguyonline.com/xB/1.jpg
http://www.partsguyonline.com/xB/2.jpg
http://www.partsguyonline.com/xB/3.jpg
http://www.partsguyonline.com/xB/4.jpg
http://www.partsguyonline.com/xB/5.jpg
http://www.partsguyonline.com/xB/6.jpg
http://www.partsguyonline.com/xB/8.jpg
http://www.partsguyonline.com/xB/9.jpg
http://www.partsguyonline.com/xB/16.jpg

only thing replaced was the rt fender, front top bumper, r/f suspension.