View Full Version : Twin turbo tc's


bshefferly07
05-19-2005, 08:06 PM
Anyone done up their tc like me with a twin turbo kit? if so holla at me

Darkness
05-19-2005, 08:09 PM
I havent but I would love to see some pics of the kit! I'm around Detroit, maybe we can get together sometime

engifineer
05-19-2005, 08:11 PM
Anyone done up their tc like me with a twin turbo kit? if so holla at me

I would love to see it as well. How did you fit them both under the hood? How are they set up? How much HP? And why a twin turbo? I am guessing you would have them set up with one larger than the other to provide fast spool up as well as high end boost.... but I just have to see this before I believe it.

Rick_NSX
05-19-2005, 08:14 PM
I would love to see that setup. Post some pics

italianrelic
05-19-2005, 08:26 PM
LMAO :rofl: WHY?

shuttlegoosecock
05-19-2005, 08:29 PM
would love pics... but i don't expect any. if u do have pics, u r the man!

effin_sciontc
05-19-2005, 08:29 PM
Sounds like a bunch of bs but would love to see it if its true

RockstEdy
05-19-2005, 08:44 PM
1 post.....could just be a troll. Common let's see it :come:

Hayashi
05-19-2005, 09:10 PM
look at his SN lol )

Darkness
05-19-2005, 09:23 PM
If you're only "a future scion owner" then how can you already have a twin turbo?

But maybe you just didnt set that up yet...

kris79
05-19-2005, 09:29 PM
lol

TheBlade
05-19-2005, 09:34 PM
Smmm...smmmm..smmmm.... Smells like bull____!

crowlee
05-19-2005, 09:38 PM
I just installed the TRD supercharger in my '07 tC! :rofl:

StealthTC414
05-19-2005, 09:47 PM
Its not possible. That motor would run way to rich even with the right engine managment air/fuel modifications. Everything would be custom. Custom intake manifold. The only way possible would be like a BI turbo setup where the 2nd turbo wouldn't be activated to spool until a certain rpm when the 1st turbo has completed its stage. Go back to school.....and slap yourself on the wrist for making such a stupid lie up. Ugh....

bshefferly07
05-19-2005, 09:58 PM
let me just say tisk tisk for all you haters out there you want pics go to turbonetics . com and ahhhhhhhhh yes its all custom bithes im from the motor city test me

bshefferly07
05-19-2005, 09:59 PM
any questions about my do up holla

engifineer
05-19-2005, 10:12 PM
Its not possible. That motor would run way to rich even with the right engine managment air/fuel modifications. Everything would be custom. Custom intake manifold. The only way possible would be like a BI turbo setup where the 2nd turbo wouldn't be activated to spool until a certain rpm when the 1st turbo has completed its stage. Go back to school.....and slap yourself on the wrist for making such a stupid lie up. Ugh....

First of all... too much forced induction makes an engine run lean... not rich. Too much air for the fuel system to supply fuel for. Second it is entirely possible... but would cost a lot and take a lot of work to do. Sequential turbo systems have been around forever. That is where the term "intercooler" came from. In all reality what everybody actually runs today is an "aftercooler". An intercooler goes between boost stages in a multi turbo design. The name intercooler just stuck and is actually a misnomer on single compressor designs.

Now, do I believe him? Not until I see it. It would be a great design on the car if you could use one smaller turbo to spool up quickly and one larger one to provide more boost on the top end, but it will be VERY hard to fit it all under the hood and make it work correctly. The injectors will have to be huge, intake redesigned, fuel control replaced, internals because of the amount of boost you will most likely be running (if not running tons of boost there isnt much point to a dual turbo design), tranny work to handle the power output, etc. You can get over 400 HP out of our motor with a single turbo, and still have it spool up fairly soon if it is sized correctly, so it is not very practical.

TeamMightyMiniz
05-19-2005, 10:12 PM
Yea BS Heffer
I think we all called your bull____.

Go away unless you can prove it with your photos.

engifineer
05-19-2005, 10:15 PM
let me just say tisk tisk for all you haters out there you want pics go to turbonetics . com and ahhhhhhhhh yes its all custom bithes im from the motor city test me

wow, a link to a place that sells turbos.... that really proves what is in your car.

DeZZNuTTz
05-19-2005, 10:18 PM
ill believe it when i see it

khaye
05-19-2005, 10:38 PM
looks like somebody got punked..."holla"

time to prove us all wrong, mr motor city man. post some pix and it better be fm tc with all the mods on your sig

engifineer
05-19-2005, 11:20 PM
Well... the guy that started this post decided to try and convince me via PM for some reason. My first question was the specs on his parts. His answer did not answer much but says that the intake is like the 300zx. So I replied saying the zx is a V6, so the intake cannot be the same. He then pms that he messed up due to all the pms he was getting about his setup and that the twin turbo setup was similar to the zx and that the first stage ran 5psi while the second ran 17psi. To that I replied that the twin turbo setup on the V6 is feeding one to each bank, unlike a sequential design on an I4. He then replied that I was correct and that they designed the intake to split up the 4 cyl into two banks (thats what he told me) and that the turbos fed each one. I then replied that even if they did that they would need equal boosts on each bank, not 5psi to 2 cylinders and 17psi to the other two. He then replied that he got "locked out" and wanted to know what I was asking again.... this is fun guys. It really is :rofl:

Rick_NSX
05-19-2005, 11:36 PM
Guys I for one believe him... He showed it to me. So I said well... mine has one bigger turbo and the awd from the rav4 plus a 92.5 shot of nos. But he didn't want to race. Go figure :rofl:

TheBlade
05-19-2005, 11:38 PM
When it came to my escort I did use a matched manifold turbo and downpipe, but everything from plumbing to engine management was (red-necked) by myself.

I completely believe the set up is possible, and its possible to tune it for fuel. But I also know just because you're from "the motor city" doesn't make you a F.I. genious. Likewise, because I was born in raised in SoCal doesn't make me a surfer (I have no sense of balance, but I did try my entire life)...

The biggest give to the B.S. meter going crazy is: WHY? Why twin turbo? There are practicalities to everything and there are supportable reasons for and against it. Basically I see it as breaking down to you do it, to be the first one, and to simply show-boat your car. Same reason for Supra's and FD3S's going to single turbo. T-T set ups can balance power for those cars, but people go single with them to simply show a radical modification to the aspiration of the car (oh yeah and everyone ewwws and ahhhs with dyno-queens)

I just get the gut feeling that if you honestly twin-turbo'd your tC you'd careless about bragging on forums. You'd be more like the Axis-5, ScionSpeed, or ZPI guys that poke in and answer questions to help people, but stay modest about themselves, then have THEIR OWN sites dedicated to why they have a top notch show/performance vehicle. And most of them are nice enough to share their R&D with helping the rest of us, not use phrases to convince.

I guess your initial statements, although I believe are possible, even I think I could pull it off, make you out to seem more like one of those TV Evangelist (hope no one is offended, or 'By my powers, God Given, YOU"RE HEALED!')

Anyhow, read Engifineer's posts know he's a wealth of actual knowledge and pity him for being the nerdy one always breaking his toys and trying to rebuild them as a kid (dont hide it, we know you still play with legos and breadboard kits ) :P

By the way, I have no degree in automotive or focus in forced induction, just my life is consumed by it. I only have personal experiences and way too much book time invested. But unlike this guy that just tries to convice everyone, here's a link to my escort's set up:

http://cardomain.com/id/theblade

cheers!

antireversion
05-20-2005, 02:11 AM
Its not possible. That motor would run way to rich even with the right engine managment air/fuel modifications. Everything would be custom. Custom intake manifold. The only way possible would be like a BI turbo setup where the 2nd turbo wouldn't be activated to spool until a certain rpm when the 1st turbo has completed its stage. Go back to school.....and slap yourself on the wrist for making such a stupid lie up. Ugh....
:no: the only thing you got correct in this whole post was the part about making up such a stupid lie, lol

OliverThomas
05-20-2005, 02:45 AM
lol, give me a break.

Sweet dude, I'm runnin' 3 turbo's at 20 psi a piece, a 250 shot of Nitro, and a whole lot of bull____.

What is it you keep sayin...

ah, here it is.

HOLLA... (?)

Consider yourself holla'd.

TimmyT
05-20-2005, 02:52 AM
Manufactuers do produce kits where they use 2 seperate turbos (a smaller for quick spooling, and a larger turbo for mo pwah) but I really don't see the need when you can just get a t3/4 hybrid turbo that does basically the same thing. Eh, would be unique. Not saying there is any merit to this post, but good luck to yah.

nycazn79
05-20-2005, 05:25 AM
Maybe he got two turbonators and that turbo sound thing from ebay :rofl:

65DaytonaCoupe
05-20-2005, 12:32 PM
Why ya'll gotta be hatin on a brotha just for slappin some serious juice on his ride?! Holla what what!
Yea, thats what I thought biiiiiatches!!!



In all seriousness, I will FedEx you a cam to take some shots if you don't already have one. Waterproof at that, can't have rain stopping you now can we.

turbocivic
05-20-2005, 02:00 PM
wow, all I can say is wow....

65DaytonaCoupe
05-20-2005, 03:26 PM
Hey turbocivic, you're in NC too. Mind if I ask what part? Statesville here. Little burb north of charlotte.

Harmonic_tC
05-20-2005, 03:37 PM
let me just say tisk tisk for all you haters out there you want pics go to turbonetics . com and ahhhhhhhhh yes its all custom bithes im from the motor city test me

I went there and didnt see anything other than a catalog. Wheres the link?

engifineer
05-20-2005, 03:40 PM
Not sure why he kept pming me to convince me instead of just writing it in here. That was a bit strange. But his last few attempts seemed kind of futile and then he just stopped trying. His last pm contradicted what the others had said in an attempt to answer my questions, so it became less and less believeable. I am pretty sure he was just trying to convince us of what he wished he had. Or maybe he was just trying to have fun, i dunno :P

turbocivic
05-20-2005, 04:45 PM
Hey turbocivic, you're in NC too. Mind if I ask what part? Statesville here. Little burb north of charlotte.

Hickory, about 45 minutes west of you...

65DaytonaCoupe
05-20-2005, 05:22 PM
Groovy. I go there all the time. In my opinion its the rice capital of NC, easily. I got a buddy that used to go up there to race.

turbocivic
05-20-2005, 05:39 PM
absolutely correct...but the race scene is also full of some of the big dogs in NC too.

If you aren't at least 5-600 hp, it's tough to get anybody to take you seriously...

turbocivic
05-20-2005, 05:44 PM
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1174259

I don't mean to hijack, but here is my whip y0...maybe this gives me some turbo cred :doh:

engifineer
05-20-2005, 06:01 PM
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1174259

I don't mean to hijack, but here is my whip y0...maybe this gives me some turbo cred :doh:

Damn honda kids :P j/k!
Nice setup. Love the sound clip! Any track times on it?

turbocivic
05-20-2005, 06:12 PM
went 11.28 @ 126 on the DRs, and 10.74 on 26" slicks with no fenders, hood, or front bumper cover.

Slicks wouldn't clear with all the sheet metal still on.

and that's my daily driver....

NY_BSP_Scion
05-20-2005, 06:24 PM
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turbocivic
05-20-2005, 06:51 PM
nice floor mats.

Gmoney
05-20-2005, 07:57 PM
went 11.28 @ 126 on the DRs, and 10.74 on 26" slicks with no fenders, hood, or front bumper cover.

Slicks wouldn't clear with all the sheet metal still on.

and that's my daily driver....

nice setup dude.

turbocivic
05-20-2005, 08:09 PM
thanks man, it gets the job done...

and my Toyota parts job funds it :silly:

snipe99
06-24-2005, 04:47 AM
ok sry to bring up an old thread back for the dead but tonight they usually have a car show here on route 9 near mcdonalds anyway thee was this white twin turbo'd tc with a carbon fiber hood i know i might get flammed for this but i know what i saw and it looked sweet.

johnf456
06-24-2005, 04:56 AM
did you get the battery tie down and radiator cap so you can list those for braggin rights?

slammed
06-24-2005, 04:58 AM
this thread is going no where fast...closed??

johnf456
06-24-2005, 05:00 AM
ok sry to bring up an old thread back for the dead but tonight they usually have a car show here on route 9 near mcdonalds anyway thee was this white twin turbo'd tc with a carbon fiber hood i know i might get flammed for this but i know what i saw and it looked sweet.what part of Jersey? I lived in Jackson near freehold

Mediocre_Generica
06-24-2005, 12:26 PM
All I know is that any twin turbo'd four cylinder is all fashion and next to no function. Twin turbo'ing an inline four is the stupidest thing ever.

snipe99
06-24-2005, 01:11 PM
i live in manalapan yes at first i was saying it was bs but then he showed us the dyno he is pushing 441 hp i didint see the torque one . i asked him the same thing y didnt you just go single turob b/c of lag he said he wanted to be diffrent.

engifineer
06-24-2005, 01:18 PM
i live in manalapan yes at first i was saying it was bs but then he showed us the dyno he is pushing 441 hp i didint see the torque one . i asked him the same thing y didnt you just go single turob b/c of lag he said he wanted to be diffrent.

There are some uses for SEQUENTIALLY charging an inline 4, not twin charging per se. However, the benefits do not really outweigh the huge cost. With the turbos that are out today there is not much need. He could have gotten the same output with very little lag for way less. So he basically paid a TON of money to sequentially charge "just to be different" ? I hardly believe that. He may have some extra bolt on parts to fool those who aren't as familiar with charging... but I doubt it is functional. Without pics and videos of the dyno run I am extremely skeptical.

snipe99
06-24-2005, 01:55 PM
he did say everytihng cost him close to $15,000 if he is at the next meet next week i will get pics but im not sayin you have to believe me im just telling you what i saw and i am fmiliar with turbo's

RockBlocker
06-25-2005, 03:11 PM
proof is in the pictures

snipe99
06-26-2005, 01:24 AM
ill work on that but im not promising anything b/c i dont knopw if he will be at the next car show

user1234
06-26-2005, 03:30 AM
Maybe he got two turbonators and that turbo sound thing from ebay :rofl:

turbonators, ROFL !!! I just gave the OP a rating of 5 stars for "show" and 1 star for "go". I wish he would be punished HARD for posting this crap

mikek6789
06-26-2005, 06:45 AM
Yea BS Heffer
I think we all called your bull____.

Go away unless you can prove it with your photos.

What are you, some kind of ___?

Its B Shefferly, as in "Brian Shefferly" :tard:

engifineer
06-26-2005, 05:10 PM
Yea BS Heffer
I think we all called your bull____.

Go away unless you can prove it with your photos.

What are you, some kind of ___?

Its B Shefferly, as in "Brian Shefferly" :tard:

He was being sarcastic with the name BS Heffer, "tard". The guy was completely full of it, and I proved that. Especially when I e-mailed the shop that he says did all of the work for him. They replied by telling me what I already knew, that they did not build it and would not even recommend a sequentially charged I4. Of course, a minimum of car knowledge and reading the info he posted proved that on his own. But, you wouldnt know that now would you? Plus, why did you bring up such an old argument now? Been planning out what you would say all this time?

:rofl:

gosu
06-26-2005, 05:45 PM
hate to keep this thread at the top but i just wanted to suggest that this thread be locked and delted b/c its obvious a troll started it.

he doesn't deserve all these views and replies, and it is just spreading confusion and misinformation.

engifineer
06-26-2005, 05:48 PM
^^ agreed. the guy even gave up long ago.

quiksilver24r
06-26-2005, 06:12 PM
is two exhaust outlets enough to spool a turbo?