Munch
03-01-2004, 11:26 PM
The Blitz Supercharger kit for the xB is finally out. The price is $3500 for the kit which includes a brand new computer for the car. I gotta get my hands on one of thses kits pronto :twisted: .
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View Full Version : Blitz Supercharger kit............. Munch 03-01-2004, 11:26 PM The Blitz Supercharger kit for the xB is finally out. The price is $3500 for the kit which includes a brand new computer for the car. I gotta get my hands on one of thses kits pronto :twisted: . DJ_X_Trodinaire 03-02-2004, 12:32 AM where can i get one??? who who? UrbanDrum 03-02-2004, 12:52 AM The price is $3500 for the kit which includes a brand new computer. Any idea how much installation would be ($)? Munch 03-02-2004, 01:31 AM where can i get one??? who who? Go here: http://www.blitz-na.com/product.html Munch 03-02-2004, 01:32 AM The price is $3500 for the kit which includes a brand new computer. Any idea how much installation would be ($)? I have no clue. bBted 03-02-2004, 02:07 AM im guessing the labor will be 10hours+ :shock: 03-02-2004, 04:43 AM im guessing the labor will be 10hours+ :shock: DAM, thats money in the bank for someone! :D I think I would give it a whirl! :twisted: 10+ hours and a 24 pack of corona. I am down for a DIY blitz day! Burn0ut 03-02-2004, 04:56 AM where can i get one??? who who? I can get it to you for 3250 flat (tax and s&h included). Let me know if you guys want. HotBox 03-02-2004, 05:13 AM where can i get one??? who who? I can get it to you for 3250 flat (tax and s&h included). Let me know if you guys want. seriously?! damn i might be giving you a call sometime soon hopefully Burn0ut 03-02-2004, 05:35 AM seriously?! damn i might be giving you a call sometime soon hopefully yea man just let me know...pm me or whatever you like. :D scionxb04 03-02-2004, 05:36 AM tell everyone not to buy them till they hit 2,500bucks.....force the price down HotBox 03-02-2004, 05:37 AM do you know if itll have the thing like Drew's company's xB like a boost controller type thing i believe he said they can run boost if they want or not dont remember HotBox 03-02-2004, 05:42 AM tell everyone not to buy them till they hit 2,500bucks.....force the price down good idea lets boycott Burn0ut 03-02-2004, 05:47 AM do you know if itll have the thing like Drew's company's xB like a boost controller type thing i believe he said they can run boost if they want or not dont remember I really doubt it. the blitz site says. The BLITZ® Compressor system was designed to give maximum h orsepower and torque without sacrificing reliablility and drivability. All BLITZ® compressor units come complete ready to install and oil filled for trouble free maintance. All kits are designed to be fuel efficient and highly responsive. All compressors are electronically controlled by throttle response and engine load. All kits come complete with air filter and a tuned ECU for air fuel ratio management. Nothing about a switch like drew has it. HotBox 03-02-2004, 05:54 AM DAMN well ill have to ask him about it and see whats up but i believe you might be getting a pm from me :twisted: DJ_X_Trodinaire 03-02-2004, 12:32 PM seriously?! damn i might be giving you a call sometime soon hopefully yea man just let me know...pm me or whatever you like. :D any parts list on what comes with the kit? i am definately interested :shock: ScionBandit 03-02-2004, 12:46 PM ne one know wut the hp gain is, ruffly??? _________________ lost tv show (http://www.tv-gossip.com/lost/) HotBox 03-02-2004, 01:02 PM few people have this kit but no one has put up some figures Munch 03-02-2004, 02:43 PM If it dosen't make at least 160hp, I'm waiting for bthe Rev Hard turbo kit. I know it will cost less than that. jackmott 03-02-2004, 02:57 PM I found somewhere claims of 6psi and 25% power gain, which would be around 30hp gain. Also keep in mind this is a roots supercharger, so it makes the same boost at all RPMS. A turbo kit will no doubt make more peak power at the same boost level, but this will make way more power in the 1-3krpms range for sure, which can be nice. I don't imagine the install would be hard. brakets to attach the SC to the front of the engine, new belt, intake piping, drop in whatever ECU solution they have. wonder if it includes bigger injectors or what... Munch 03-02-2004, 03:01 PM I found somewhere claims of 6psi and 25% power gain, which would be around 30hp gain. Also keep in mind this is a roots supercharger, so it makes the same boost at all RPMS. A turbo kit will no doubt make more peak power at the same boost level, but this will make way more power in the 1-3krpms range for sure, which can be nice. I don't imagine the install would be hard. brakets to attach the SC to the front of the engine, new belt, intake piping, drop in whatever ECU solution they have. wonder if it includes bigger injectors or what... This car can't even get traction with the stock hp in first and second gear when you get on it. It needs alittle lag at low rpms. A turbo kit would be perfect. Alittle lag and tghen big power up top where this car needs it most. I think I'll opt for the Rev Hard kit. It just looks more tasty to me at this point in time. Lets see who has the best price by June, because that's when I'll be picking up my new setup for my xB. izzles 03-02-2004, 03:02 PM great news guys thanks for letting me know....I will have to get in touch with our contacts at Blitz and check out the prices....I will let everyone know if I can get it .... Munch 03-02-2004, 03:03 PM great news guys thanks for letting me know....I will have to get in touch with our contacts at Blitz and check out the prices....I will let everyone know if I can get it .... Keep us posted :wink: scionracerxb 03-02-2004, 03:03 PM i would only get one if the "switch" is available. it is sooo cool. you can run it N/A for cruizin, and then when you want the power, it has 3 different settings on it to control when it kicks in. Swweeet :wink: If its just on all the time, then i would definately get the turbo. You can't beat the sound of a fatty blow off valve as you shift :wink: Munch 03-02-2004, 03:06 PM i would only get one if the "switch" is available. it is sooo cool. you can run it N/A for cruizin, and then when you want the power, it has 3 different settings on it to control when it kicks in. Swweeet :wink: If its just on all the time, then i would definately get the turbo. You can't beat the sound of a fatty blow off valve as you shift :wink: I agree with you 100% bro :wink: gulp35 03-02-2004, 03:10 PM You can always just get a speaker and hook it up to when you step on the clutch :o :o :o or get the supercharger to run at too high boost and have a BOV that always goes off after you pass the desired boost. DjFrOsT 03-02-2004, 03:35 PM i would only get one if the "switch" is available. it is sooo cool. you can run it N/A for cruizin, and then when you want the power, it has 3 different settings on it to control when it kicks in. Swweeet :wink: If its just on all the time, then i would definately get the turbo. You can't beat the sound of a fatty blow off valve as you shift :wink: I agree with you 100% bro :wink: have to agree with both of you...its not like i would want the power there all the time...there needs to be a setting where you can have cruse and race options...you know? but thanks for the heads up...definitatly interested... :wink: HotBox 03-02-2004, 03:36 PM i would only get one if the "switch" is available. it is sooo cool. you can run it N/A for cruizin, and then when you want the power, it has 3 different settings on it to control when it kicks in. Swweeet :wink: If its just on all the time, then i would definately get the turbo. You can't beat the sound of a fatty blow off valve as you shift :wink: burn0ut this is what i was talking about jackmott 03-02-2004, 03:59 PM sounds like you need better tires. even on stock tires 2nd gear is not a problem. is it currently -10 degreees where you live? :) I found somewhere claims of 6psi and 25% power gain, which would be around 30hp gain. Also keep in mind this is a roots supercharger, so it makes the same boost at all RPMS. A turbo kit will no doubt make more peak power at the same boost level, but this will make way more power in the 1-3krpms range for sure, which can be nice. I don't imagine the install would be hard. brakets to attach the SC to the front of the engine, new belt, intake piping, drop in whatever ECU solution they have. wonder if it includes bigger injectors or what... This car can't even get traction with the stock hp in first and second gear when you get on it. It needs alittle lag at low rpms. A turbo kit would be perfect. Alittle lag and tghen big power up top where this car needs it most. I think I'll opt for the Rev Hard kit. It just looks more tasty to me at this point in time. Lets see who has the best price by June, because that's when I'll be picking up my new setup for my xB. jackmott 03-02-2004, 04:03 PM i would only get one if the "switch" is available. it is sooo cool. you can run it N/A for cruizin, and then when you want the power, it has 3 different settings on it to control when it kicks in. Swweeet :wink: If its just on all the time, then i would definately get the turbo. You can't beat the sound of a fatty blow off valve as you shift :wink: There *IS* a switch available. It is called your right foot. At low throttle positions there is no boost with any supercharger ( or turbo ). A switch serves no real use other than the "oh neato" factor. HotBox 03-02-2004, 04:08 PM i would only get one if the "switch" is available. it is sooo cool. you can run it N/A for cruizin, and then when you want the power, it has 3 different settings on it to control when it kicks in. Swweeet :wink: If its just on all the time, then i would definately get the turbo. You can't beat the sound of a fatty blow off valve as you shift :wink: There *IS* a switch available. It is called your right foot. At low throttle positions there is no boost with any supercharger ( or turbo ). A switch serves no real use other than the "oh neato" factor. uhhhh no Munch 03-02-2004, 04:13 PM sounds like you need better tires. even on stock tires 2nd gear is not a problem. is it currently -10 degreees where you live? :) I'm on stock tires and I can spin them straight through first and second gear without a problem. It was 63 degrees here yesterday and I still can do it. Maybe you got a car with less hp than mine :lol: :lol: :lol: HotBox 03-02-2004, 04:15 PM lol BURNNN!! Munch 03-02-2004, 04:18 PM lol BURNNN!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: YUP :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: jackmott 03-02-2004, 04:31 PM sounds like you need better tires. even on stock tires 2nd gear is not a problem. is it currently -10 degreees where you live? :) I'm on stock tires and I can spin them straight through first and second gear without a problem. It was 63 degrees here yesterday and I still can do it. Maybe you got a car with less hp than mine :lol: :lol: :lol: post video of you burning all the way through 2nd gear on dry cement and I'll paypal you $50 =) I should have 1 whole HP less than you. I could make 2nd gear chirp on a hard shift, but not spin all the way through. jackmott 03-02-2004, 04:32 PM care to elaborate on that thought at all? In what way would a switch be useful? i would only get one if the "switch" is available. it is sooo cool. you can run it N/A for cruizin, and then when you want the power, it has 3 different settings on it to control when it kicks in. Swweeet :wink: If its just on all the time, then i would definately get the turbo. You can't beat the sound of a fatty blow off valve as you shift :wink: There *IS* a switch available. It is called your right foot. At low throttle positions there is no boost with any supercharger ( or turbo ). A switch serves no real use other than the "oh neato" factor. uhhhh no Munch 03-02-2004, 04:47 PM sounds like you need better tires. even on stock tires 2nd gear is not a problem. is it currently -10 degreees where you live? :) I'm on stock tires and I can spin them straight through first and second gear without a problem. It was 63 degrees here yesterday and I still can do it. Maybe you got a car with less hp than mine :lol: :lol: :lol: post video of you burning all the way through 2nd gear on dry cement and I'll paypal you $50 =) I should have 1 whole HP less than you. I could make 2nd gear chirp on a hard shift, but not spin all the way through. I won't take your money like that bro. I'm running a 35 shot of Nitrous with my NX Kit. You would loose your money on a bet with me like that. Then again I should have just shot the video and took your money :twisted: :twisted: HotBox 03-02-2004, 04:49 PM first of all a switch and a foot are two different things and it would serve as a purpose maybe for us rather then just sit in your "oh neato" category. like he said we can run N/A which allows us to save gas. rather then running full bosst all the time which will cause a huge dent in MPG but then again any force introduction setup will. more air more gas. but im sure you knew that but then again maybe not since youre comparing a swtich to a foot. hmm now i see why you are comparing them they may have the same concept but are two different things HotBox 03-02-2004, 04:50 PM munch have you ran it yet? if so spill the beans Munch 03-02-2004, 04:52 PM munch have you ran it yet? if so spill the beans Hell yeah :twisted: , I've been running the NX Kit since My car broke the 1500 mile barrier almost 2 weeks ago :twisted: . It feels real good taking off but I just can't get traction until 3rd gear when you really can't feel it anymore, but you know it's there :twisted: . HotBox 03-02-2004, 04:55 PM i havent ran a nitrous kit so im not exactly sure how it works but i know thw basic concept but couldnt you just hit it when you get to 2nd or 3rd or is it armed when open at full throttle Munch 03-02-2004, 04:56 PM i havent ran a nitrous kit so im not exactly sure how it works but i know thw basic concept but couldnt you just hit it when you get to 2nd or 3rd or is it armed when open at full throttle It is armed once I hit the switch and it activates when I go wide open throttle. It's setup with a pedal switch. So everytime I floor it when the switch is on and the bottle is open it sprays. HotBox 03-02-2004, 04:59 PM have you come up with any solutions around that? what have you ran at the track? if you have taken it. Munch 03-02-2004, 05:02 PM have you come up with any solutions around that? what have you ran at the track? if you have taken it. Haven't taken the car to the track yet. I will be taking it in 2 weeks to run it on juice and off juice to see what difference the 35 shot made. I want to bump it up to a 50 shot, but I don't want to mess anything up just yet. I need to put a air/ fuel gauge and a fuel pressure gauge in my car so I can get a better idea of what's going on fuel wise. jackmott 03-02-2004, 05:07 PM you don't run at full boost all the time with a supercharger, ergo you don't waste any gas. if you are cruising, at low throttle, there is no boost, things are normal, if you want to go fast, you floor it. the switch is the gas pedal. first of all a switch and a foot are two different things and it would serve as a purpose maybe for us rather then just sit in your "oh neato" category. like he said we can run N/A which allows us to save gas. rather then running full bosst all the time which will cause a huge dent in MPG but then again any force introduction setup will. more air more gas. but im sure you knew that but then again maybe not since youre comparing a swtich to a foot. hmm now i see why you are comparing them they may have the same concept but are two different things DibujoB 03-02-2004, 05:16 PM It's an awesome kit, we've really been enjoying it! We haven't tossed our xB up on a dyno yet, but it's tuned at 5.5 lbs of boost (we may up it to 6 or 7) and the gains are noticable. Mike from Blitz says it takes them less than 5 hours to do the install, so if you know what you're doing (and for something like this, I definately don't!!!) it is pretty quick. They're a good company, and it's a nice unit. I'm sure they can do the electronic clutch switch too, not sure if it's included though. Maybe you can work it out with them, or maybe it's standard. I really don't know. Anyway, still in chicago, come back thursday. Hope to see you guys soon! Drew scionik 03-02-2004, 06:01 PM when does the rev kit come out Burn0ut 03-02-2004, 06:46 PM Ahh...the debate about Superchargers and Turbochargers. If you feel like you want constant power go for the Supercharger. THere is no lag and it is constantly boosting (pretty much). The boost goes up as the rpms do. i.e. .5 psi at idle ~step on gas~ at 4 psi maybe 4.5 psi or something (just an example). If you want to make mad power get a turbo. You won't have the same kind of power in the lower powerband, but in the upperpower band it will have higher numbers. You can some what avoid the lag with a smaller turbo (which is probably what a lot of companys will use for the xb). The dyno for the supercharger will mostlike be a more even rise, while the turbo will spike closer to the top. Its all about what you want. :D Btw if its a turbo you want, if the greddy one ever comes out i'll cut you guys a deal on that too. Burn0ut 03-02-2004, 06:57 PM Alright I e-mail blitz about expected power and a parts list. I also e-mail greddy to see when they expect to get the turbo out. I'll let you guys know when i get the info. UrbanDrum 03-02-2004, 08:56 PM post video of you burning all the way through 2nd gear on dry cement and I'll paypal you $50 Is pavement fine? gulp35 03-02-2004, 09:10 PM :roll: yeah, sure, fine. I just want to see the 2 gear Burn out. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: BTW make it a rolling burnout don'thave your friends (or enemys) hold your car back. LET ER RIP jdaniels 03-02-2004, 09:21 PM :roll: yeah, sure, fine. I just want to see the 2 gear Burn out. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: BTW make it a rolling burnout don'thave your friends (or enemys) hold your car back. LET ER RIP Well, gulp35, seeing as how you had problems finding the gears in a Scion, I can see how you wouldn't believe this... but most of us CAN find the gears... I bet I could do a rolling burn-out through 2nd... not that I'd want to.... gulp35 03-02-2004, 09:30 PM i'm not doubting the possibility of it happening, I just want another video to add to my collection UrbanDrum 03-02-2004, 10:26 PM :roll: yeah, sure, fine. I just want to see the 2 gear Burn out. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: BTW make it a rolling burnout don'thave your friends (or enemys) hold your car back. LET ER RIP I can even burn rubber in 5 gear, when your mom's in my rear seat. Did you say you wanted a video for your collection? :lol: KingLou 03-03-2004, 06:10 AM I'm not sure......but I think I may be leaning more toward wanting a supercharger. Super high speeds scare me. :shock: I say.....give me the low end stuff........just so I can have that kick when I need it. KiL Tstrel 03-04-2004, 09:21 AM gawd I was happy as sh*t that my xb could scream firts, chirp second, heh and minorly 3rd. Burn0ut 03-04-2004, 07:34 PM Greddy's reply to my e-mail about their turbo: Thanks for your interest in GReddy Products. Actually we are looking into making various performance parts for the Scion xB now. We do not have any specifics yet, but we hope to have more information on these products available sometime later this year. Please keep in touch with your favorite Authorized Greddy dealer for more updates. http://greddy.com/contact/ Pretty much useless...sorry guys...still waiting on the blitz e-mail ScionBandit 03-04-2004, 07:54 PM its fun readin these posts, u all _____ at one another so much...u all make my day here at work, FYI... but ye, supercharger will not kill ur gas mileage.....but if u want mad power, get the turbo, but a s/c is still good...its all preference and opinion....ive been around turbo's longer, so id be goin with that instead of a s/c..don't get me wrong, id still take a s/c box ne day.... BigOrangeXb 03-04-2004, 08:42 PM first of all a switch and a foot are two different things and it would serve as a purpose maybe for us rather then just sit in your "oh neato" category. like he said we can run N/A which allows us to save gas. rather then running full bosst all the time which will cause a huge dent in MPG but then again any force introduction setup will. more air more gas. but im sure you knew that but then again maybe not since youre comparing a swtich to a foot. hmm now i see why you are comparing them they may have the same concept but are two different things And what the hell would this switch hook up to? Not like there's anything electronic on the S/C, the S/C itself is mechanically linked to the engine via the belt. How would a switch make it like the engine is running N/A? Once a S/C or turbo in installed on an engine it'll never act like an N/A engine no matter what unless you take it off. If you're just cruising around your engine's not gonna see boost until you press the gas a little more. Even though the S/C is creating boost unless the throttle plate is opened enough to take it all in the engine won't recognize it. dgHotLava 03-04-2004, 08:49 PM the switch could activate a clutch (like the A/C. A/C is run by belt also but does not run until u hit the switch, right) but the air could not be drawn through a non-spinnig SC (if air could be drawn through a non-spinning SC it could not provide that much boost, if any) just some thoughts... scionxb04 03-04-2004, 08:59 PM is has a electronic clutch like a A/C compressor does......no power to the clutch the S/C stops spinning and no boost....this is why im going this route....plus tuning a turbo in 100+ degree weather during the summer isnt something i wanna mess with....supercharger = instant reliable power with minimal tuning... HotBox 03-04-2004, 09:04 PM first of all a switch and a foot are two different things and it would serve as a purpose maybe for us rather then just sit in your "oh neato" category. like he said we can run N/A which allows us to save gas. rather then running full bosst all the time which will cause a huge dent in MPG but then again any force introduction setup will. more air more gas. but im sure you knew that but then again maybe not since youre comparing a swtich to a foot. hmm now i see why you are comparing them they may have the same concept but are two different things And what the hell would this switch hook up to? Not like there's anything electronic on the S/C, the S/C itself is mechanically linked to the engine via the belt. How would a switch make it like the engine is running N/A? Once a S/C or turbo in installed on an engine it'll never act like an N/A engine no matter what unless you take it off. If you're just cruising around your engine's not gonna see boost until you press the gas a little more. Even though the S/C is creating boost unless the throttle plate is opened enough to take it all in the engine won't recognize it. http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5371&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30 READ! and stop trying to jump all over me and also there is an electronic SC as a matter of fact my friend told me about it just yesterday that he saw it online when i get the link ill piost it but he said theyre availible for the new audi's Subcompact Culture 03-04-2004, 09:36 PM I was just going to point out the last few things that were mentioned in this post. One of the main differences between a turbocharger and a supercharger is that the turbo is spooled up by exhaust gasses whereas a supercharger is driven the engine itself. There isn't a way to turn it off, unless a trap door opened up to suck in the uncompressed air, which would be an engineering nightmare. A supercharger is always spinning. As far as E-superchargers, I don't think many people take them too seriously. I haven't heard of anyone actually using them and liking the results. If they were that great, we'd see them more often. BigOrangeXb 03-05-2004, 12:13 AM I didn't know they used a S/C with a clutch pulley. That's kinda dumb, why would you want your engine to fight pulling air being blocked by the non-spinning internals of the S/C? Oh well, I like turbos. Much easier to tune in the boost you want, easier to match to your engine. Might be a more complicated to setup but, when done right, it will outperform a S/C anyday. With all the new technology you can match a turbo that can spool faster than a S/C on any given engine. BigOrangeXb 03-05-2004, 12:18 AM is has a electronic clutch like a A/C compressor does......no power to the clutch the S/C stops spinning and no boost....this is why im going this route....plus tuning a turbo in 100+ degree weather during the summer isnt something i wanna mess with....supercharger = instant reliable power with minimal tuning... That's why you get an intercooler :wink: And I wouldn't say minimal tuning, it'd be about the same. Forced induction is forced induction. HotBox 03-05-2004, 12:40 AM I didn't know they used a S/C with a clutch pulley. That's kinda dumb, why would you want your engine to fight pulling air being blocked by the non-spinning internals of the S/C? Oh well, I like turbos. Much easier to tune in the boost you want, easier to match to your engine. Might be a more complicated to setup but, when done right, it will outperform a S/C anyday. With all the new technology you can match a turbo that can spool faster than a S/C on any given engine. i beg to differ i raced my little bro he had a 94 civc hb b16a with a greddy turbo and i had a 96 civic hb b18C with a jackson racing supercharger and who won me so theres one for the "oh so bigorangexb" runforestrun 03-05-2004, 01:34 AM i would only get one if the "switch" is available. it is sooo cool. you can run it N/A for cruizin, and then when you want the power, it has 3 different settings on it to control when it kicks in. Swweeet :wink: If its just on all the time, then i would definately get the turbo. You can't beat the sound of a fatty blow off valve as you shift :wink: There *IS* a switch available. It is called your right foot. At low throttle positions there is no boost with any supercharger ( or turbo ). A switch serves no real use other than the "oh neato" factor. WERD :lol: Minsk99 03-05-2004, 05:12 AM This has all been great info from people who obviously know a lot about this stuff. So let me interject with what I'm sure is an absolutely ridiculous question that I (being very new to this) do not know the answer to. Could I use either a Turbo or SC with an automatic? Yey I know that if I wanted to go fast I should have gotten the 5 speed, but I'm defiantly more of a cruiser who sometimes wants to pump up the tunes and kick up the rpm's. I heard that there are adapters for autos that a supercharger can hoop up to to change the gears faster (I think). This could all be wishful thinking. scionxb04 03-05-2004, 05:54 AM is has a electronic clutch like a A/C compressor does......no power to the clutch the S/C stops spinning and no boost....this is why im going this route....plus tuning a turbo in 100+ degree weather during the summer isnt something i wanna mess with....supercharger = instant reliable power with minimal tuning... That's why you get an intercooler :wink: And I wouldn't say minimal tuning, it'd be about the same. Forced induction is forced induction. the boost out of a supercharger is linear and very easy to tune....turbo's are not.....ive built both n/a and forced induction of both supercharger and turbo....and supercharger is unbelieve easy to tune compared to a turbo....and way less time on the dyno.... Burn0ut 03-05-2004, 11:09 PM This has all been great info from people who obviously know a lot about this stuff. So let me interject with what I'm sure is an absolutely ridiculous question that I (being very new to this) do not know the answer to. Could I use either a Turbo or SC with an automatic? Yey I know that if I wanted to go fast I should have gotten the 5 speed, but I'm defiantly more of a cruiser who sometimes wants to pump up the tunes and kick up the rpm's. I heard that there are adapters for autos that a supercharger can hoop up to to change the gears faster (I think). This could all be wishful thinking. er...you can have a turbo or a s/c with your auto. Its all a matter to see if all the componets fit though. I don't know if the engine bay is different in an auto or a manual so i can't tell you if a simple bolt-in kit for a manual tranny will work if you have an auto. I can tell you that Blitz makes a specific s/c for the auto xbs. I can also tell you that for an off the shelf kit, imo the s/c will work better with an auto cuz in an auto you can't really keep in the lower gears long enough to spool up your turbo (depending on how big it is and who it is tune'd) but GENERALLY i would put a s/c on an auto...that being said if you want the Blitz s/c let me know and i'll hook you up... :wink: Sevedd 03-06-2004, 01:58 AM It's an awesome kit, we've really been enjoying it! We haven't tossed our xB up on a dyno yet, but it's tuned at 5.5 lbs of boost (we may up it to 6 or 7) and the gains are noticable. Drew What are they using for Fuel & Timing Management? Oh yea and guys there is a post with FAQ for those that are new to Forced Induction, if you could try to post questions there so it will be easier to find in the future.. BigOrangeXb 03-09-2004, 03:19 AM I didn't know they used a S/C with a clutch pulley. That's kinda dumb, why would you want your engine to fight pulling air being blocked by the non-spinning internals of the S/C? Oh well, I like turbos. Much easier to tune in the boost you want, easier to match to your engine. Might be a more complicated to setup but, when done right, it will outperform a S/C anyday. With all the new technology you can match a turbo that can spool faster than a S/C on any given engine. i beg to differ i raced my little bro he had a 94 civc hb b16a with a greddy turbo and i had a 96 civic hb b18C with a jackson racing supercharger and who won me so theres one for the "oh so bigorangexb" Ok, don't ba a jackass, you also had a bigger engine 1.8L compared to your bro's 1.6L (even though your '96 was probably a little heavier than the '94) . So you can't really even compare that. You didn't list what else was on both cars and if they were tuned right either. :roll: HotBox 03-09-2004, 03:39 AM I didn't know they used a S/C with a clutch pulley. That's kinda dumb, why would you want your engine to fight pulling air being blocked by the non-spinning internals of the S/C? Oh well, I like turbos. Much easier to tune in the boost you want, easier to match to your engine. Might be a more complicated to setup but, when done right, it will outperform a S/C anyday. With all the new technology you can match a turbo that can spool faster than a S/C on any given engine. i beg to differ i raced my little bro he had a 94 civc hb b16a with a greddy turbo and i had a 96 civic hb b18C with a jackson racing supercharger and who won me so theres one for the "oh so bigorangexb" Ok, don't ba a jackass, you also had a bigger engine 1.8L compared to your bro's 1.6L (even though your '96 was probably a little heavier than the '94) . So you can't really even compare that. You didn't list what else was on both cars and if they were tuned right either. :roll: teling me not to be a jackass look at you coming up here trying to be a wannabe mr big shot and shyt. and yes they were turned right we had a reputable car shop in houston were me and my cousins all have took our cars. and once again they were turned right cause my older step brother has a civc hb with a h22 TC running low 11s and my cousin and his brother also took their cars there and one was running back to back high 11s and the other back o back low 12s. but as for the mods i just had the basic stuff dc 4 to 1 header, AEM intake custom 2 1/2 inch piping with a APEXi N1 exhuast and MSD ignition setup. and my brother not really to sure since it wasnt my car but i know it has a greddy turbo kit custom piping also and a apexi dunk exhuast and not sure what else. even had them dynoed and he had more HP then my hb even as we raced i gave him a little head start NEROAZUL 03-12-2004, 03:59 AM IF ANY ONE IS INTERESTED IN THE BLITZ SUPERCHARGER FOR THE SCION, PLEASE LET ME KNOW, I WORK FOR SUPER AUTOBACS IN THE CITY OF STANTON AND WE ARE SELLING THEM FOR 3,200. I HAVE SPOKEN TO BLITZ NA AND THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC BUT LIMITED .THE PHONE NUMBER IS 714-903-9900 EXT 341 MY NAME IS BEN HotBox 03-12-2004, 04:18 AM how much for shipping Ben? NEROAZUL 03-12-2004, 03:55 PM I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK FOR THE PRICE FOR SHIPPING BECAUSE WE REALLY DONT DO SHIPPING. IF YOU ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN IT, WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED FULL PAYMENT IN ADVANCE, BUT MOST LIKELY NO CREDIT CARDS. CALL THE STORE FOR MORE INFO OR POST A REPLY SAN ANTONIO SCION DJ_X_Trodinaire 03-12-2004, 04:04 PM no credit card?? what the?? im sure not sending cash :shock: NEROAZUL 03-12-2004, 04:30 PM PLEASE CONTACT ME BECAUSE BLITZ HAS ONLY A LIMITED NUMBER ON HAND IN THE STATES. TO BE EXACT THEY ONLY HAVE AROUND 8-9 KITS AVAILABLE AND I NEED TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE AN AUTOMATIC OR A MANUAL TRANSMISSION. NEROAZUL 03-12-2004, 04:32 PM CASHIERS CHECK MOST LIKELY Munch 03-12-2004, 04:45 PM IF ANY ONE IS INTERESTED IN THE BLITZ SUPERCHARGER FOR THE SCION, PLEASE LET ME KNOW, I WORK FOR SUPER AUTOBACS IN THE CITY OF STANTON AND WE ARE SELLING THEM FOR 3,200. I HAVE SPOKEN TO BLITZ NA AND THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC BUT LIMITED .THE PHONE NUMBER IS 714-903-9900 EXT 341 MY NAME IS BEN Too much money IMO. I'm waiting for the intercooled Rev Hard Turbo kit which will be around the same price and much easier to extract extra power from :twisted: If it were around $2500-$2800 I might have considered it. BoomBox757 03-12-2004, 07:23 PM i would only get one if the "switch" is available. it is sooo cool. you can run it N/A for cruizin, and then when you want the power, it has 3 different settings on it to control when it kicks in. Swweeet :wink: If its just on all the time, then i would definately get the turbo. You can't beat the sound of a fatty blow off valve as you shift :wink: There *IS* a switch available. It is called your right foot. At low throttle positions there is no boost with any supercharger ( or turbo ). A switch serves no real use other than the "oh neato" factor. My bad if someone already said this but I didn't feel like reading all the post so... Root superchargers.This supercharger is the positive displacement type which produces the same amount of airflow no matter what the engine speed. The boost level starts just over idle and maintains the set amount through-out the rev range of the engine. SO in conclusion Your wrong..... BURN its_ikon 03-13-2004, 01:52 AM PLEASE CONTACT ME BECAUSE BLITZ HAS ONLY A LIMITED NUMBER ON HAND IN THE STATES. TO BE EXACT THEY ONLY HAVE AROUND 8-9 KITS AVAILABLE AND I NEED TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE AN AUTOMATIC OR A MANUAL TRANSMISSION. http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/38482/capslock.gif dgHotLava 03-13-2004, 02:30 AM Thanks ikon, i can't take someone serious when they don't use proper etiquette. it is hard to take a sales pitch, when i think THEY ARE YELLING!!! oh well, everyone has to learn somewhere/sometime... (full payment up front, no CC... sounds shady to me) NEROAZUL 03-13-2004, 03:43 PM CALL THE STORE IF YOU THINK IT IS SHADY projectscion 03-13-2004, 06:15 PM Even if the quanity is limited in the US at this time, its not like they are going to never carry it in the US. I am sure Blitz is testing to see how well it will sell. Intercooler would be a Very wise descision (and look cool). www.raretrick.com has started to carry more stuff for the Scion now also... these guys know their JDM!! dgHotLava 03-14-2004, 04:10 PM neroazul, because you can't take doc's little hint or my jest, i will spell it out plain and simple. STOP TYPING IN ALL CAPS!!!!!!! typing in all caps is considered yelling in these forums. and your deal is the same i've found in other places. so iwasn't saying your deal is shady. i was saying you should learn the rules of posting (ie. not yelling) so people will take you seriously. now with that said, when my rs1 comes in i will do a s/c and will call for more info. jackmott 03-19-2004, 07:51 PM No, I am not wrong. At low throttle positions there is no boost. Get in a car with a roots supercharger and try it, look at the boost gauge. You simply don't know what you are talking about, and should listen to advive of people like me who have first hand experience and know what they are talking about. i would only get one if the "switch" is available. it is sooo cool. you can run it N/A for cruizin, and then when you want the power, it has 3 different settings on it to control when it kicks in. Swweeet :wink: If its just on all the time, then i would definately get the turbo. You can't beat the sound of a fatty blow off valve as you shift :wink: There *IS* a switch available. It is called your right foot. At low throttle positions there is no boost with any supercharger ( or turbo ). A switch serves no real use other than the "oh neato" factor. My bad if someone already said this but I didn't feel like reading all the post so... Root superchargers.This supercharger is the positive displacement type which produces the same amount of airflow no matter what the engine speed. The boost level starts just over idle and maintains the set amount through-out the rev range of the engine. SO in conclusion Your wrong..... BURN gulp35 03-19-2004, 08:01 PM No, I am not wrong. At low throttle positions there is no boost. Get in a car with a roots supercharger and try it, look at the boost gauge. You simply don't know what you are talking about, and should listen to advive of people like me who have first hand experience and know what they are talking about. i would only get one if the "switch" is available. it is sooo cool. you can run it N/A for cruizin, and then when you want the power, it has 3 different settings on it to control when it kicks in. Swweeet :wink: If its just on all the time, then i would definately get the turbo. You can't beat the sound of a fatty blow off valve as you shift :wink: There *IS* a switch available. It is called your right foot. At low throttle positions there is no boost with any supercharger ( or turbo ). A switch serves no real use other than the "oh neato" factor. My bad if someone already said this but I didn't feel like reading all the post so... Root superchargers.This supercharger is the positive displacement type which produces the same amount of airflow no matter what the engine speed. The boost level starts just over idle and maintains the set amount through-out the rev range of the engine. SO in conclusion Your wrong..... BURN YOu jackmott are completely CORRECT . In the miata in my sig there is no boost at the lower RPMs, and i want to say there is now boost when you are staying at a constant RPM also, But i haven't stayed at a constant speed for long :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: |