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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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I was wondering what mods should you not do if you plan to go turbo or S/C. I heard that you shouldn't do headers if you go turbo and stuff like that. Also What mod should you do before you go Turbo or S/C. THanks Big D
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i would also like to know what to get and not to get i was thinking of getting a turbo, i know that you shouldnt get a cold air intake because most of the time they cannot be used with the supercharger or turbo setup
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You should do all suspension and stuff before you move to Turbo or S/C

Since the "stock" component wasnt designed for the extra power.
Old Jun 4, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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don't buy headers if your going to buy a turbo.
the turbo relies on a new exhaust manifold (headers) to power the
turbo so the stock one is useless.

if you super charge it then you can buy headers. the supercharger is belt driven
and doesnt rely on the exhaust gases to power it.

Supercharger = instant power but little top end

Turbocharger = turbo lag but great top end power (depending on the turbo size)

seeing how this is a 1.5L motor you might want to opt for the S/C. more streetable
power on tap.
Old Jun 4, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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well it takes power to make power with the s/c
Old Jun 4, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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it takes power to make power with the turbo too.
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Decide on which tubo kit or S/C you are going to get and then build around it. Or you will end up having to swap parts out.
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Go with the suspension parts first. Then go with the engine parts. If you go S/C, get a header & exhaust. If you go turbo just get a exhaust. Dont really go for a CAI. Seeing that the air is going to go through something that compresses it any ways, there is no real point + the S/C or Turbo come with its own intake set up. You could do Flywheels also + upgrade clutch for the added power. Do light weight wheels. Carbon Fiber hood to lose some weight. For about every 20Lb you drop from the car its like adding 1hp. Also do a short shifter. I would suggest a oil cooler. A tranny cooler if your a auto. Spark plugs + wires. Unless they have rods, cranks & pistons for the 1.5L engine now, then thats about all I can think of. Also upgrade your brakes so you can slow down your new found speed. Also get the light weight crank pulley. Thats about all I can think of. Good luck with your future building.
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Originally Posted by hotbox05
it takes power to make power with the turbo too.
How do you figure? You are just using exhaust gases which would already be there anyways. You arent adding and extra load like with a supercharger. And besides, the dollar to power ratio just isnt there with a charger. In my mind anyways.....

About what to add or not add: Dont get a header if you are going turbo. You dont want to buy parts twice. Convert over to a return style fuel system so you can run a regulator. Get the Perrin fuel rail and the 2zz injectors. Also, it wouldnt hurt to get the perrin lightweight pulley, a lightened flywheel and a heavier clutch. Also, if you go turbo, you may want to upgrade the exhaust to a larger diameter and lose the cat. I know I know, its not legal. But is anything we do legal??
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Originally Posted by lastlookcustoms
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it takes power to make power with the turbo too.
How do you figure? You are just using exhaust gases which would already be there anyways. You arent adding and extra load like with a supercharger. And besides, the dollar to power ratio just isnt there with a charger. In my mind anyways.....

About what to add or not add: Dont get a header if you are going turbo. You dont want to buy parts twice. Convert over to a return style fuel system so you can run a regulator. Get the Perrin fuel rail and the 2zz injectors. Also, it wouldnt hurt to get the perrin lightweight pulley, a lightened flywheel and a heavier clutch. Also, if you go turbo, you may want to upgrade the exhaust to a larger diameter and lose the cat. I know I know, its not legal. But is anything we do legal??
But when you add a turbo it adds resistance to the exhaust. also Turbo requires more "maintence" than cars with S/C after a certain period of time.

Yeah, dont get header if you're going turbo. It really sucks to see your "kinda new header" in your garage the whole time after you add a turbo.

and ... heh

Its NOT legal if someone knows.
Its Legal if no one knows :-P
Old Jun 5, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
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it takes power to make power with the turbo too.
How do you figure? You are just using exhaust gases which would already be there anyways. You arent adding and extra load like with a supercharger. And besides, the dollar to power ratio just isnt there with a charger. In my mind anyways.....

About what to add or not add: Dont get a header if you are going turbo. You dont want to buy parts twice. Convert over to a return style fuel system so you can run a regulator. Get the Perrin fuel rail and the 2zz injectors. Also, it wouldnt hurt to get the perrin lightweight pulley, a lightened flywheel and a heavier clutch. Also, if you go turbo, you may want to upgrade the exhaust to a larger diameter and lose the cat. I know I know, its not legal. But is anything we do legal??
But when you add a turbo it adds resistance to the exhaust. also Turbo requires more "maintence" than cars with S/C after a certain period of time.

Yeah, dont get header if you're going turbo. It really sucks to see your "kinda new header" in your garage the whole time after you add a turbo.

and ... heh

Its NOT legal if someone knows.
Its Legal if no one knows :-P

There is barely resistance. With a properly sized turbo, there is minimal lag. About maintenance, it may require more in the future as in seals and such. One of my turbo cars has 120K on it, runs at 18psi of boost regularly with still no shaft play or oil anywhere....
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you cant buy a header if you have turbo. the manifold is made for the turbine and so on and so on

i would like a supercharger just for my personal liking and from what ive personally seen.

turbos are cool also but with any forced induction you gotta know what your gettin into and what parts you need

injectors, custom exhaust (at times but recomended), fuel pump, spark plugs, etc etc
Old Jun 11, 2005 | 08:13 AM
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Im planning on going with the S/C. So far i have TRD Clutch kit, Perrin pulleyand Short Shifter, DC Header and Exhaust, AEM Intake, and Groundfusion ground kit. Will i have to swap out any parts when i get the S/C? Because so far the pulley, clutch, and header are not installed. Also would the Blitz Compressor be an easy install?
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how is the clutch kit? im in need of a clutch soon (mines slipping).

the blitz supercharger from what i hear will take a good saturday to complete with good technicial knowledge and a few pair of hands.
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i dont know about the clutch kit. It just sits on my bedroom floor along with the pulley and headers. Does it have to be multiple people? Hopefully not because a friend is a Toyota mechanic and im gunna have him do the install
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Your friend w/ be able to do all the work as long as you can give him a lil help.
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i've always thought of a supercharger as a bolt on item....not that it's the easiest thing to install, but as far as it working with everything else already there. i would say you probably wouldn't want to put an exhaust on your car before the turbo, cause you'd probably want a turbo exhaust set up, not a N/A setup. i'd say the clutch is a must do, from what i've heard.....and the suspension also.
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yup. the clutch has trouble hooking up with no mods :-P
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Originally Posted by ScionxR
Im planning on going with the S/C. So far i have TRD Clutch kit, Perrin pulleyand Short Shifter, DC Header and Exhaust, AEM Intake, and Groundfusion ground kit. Will i have to swap out any parts when i get the S/C? Because so far the pulley, clutch, and header are not installed. Also would the Blitz Compressor be an easy install?
All the parts you have I see no problem but one. The AEM Intake. Most S/C kits come with its own Intake set up, so you might be able to make your AEM fit the S/C, but it might not add any more power. Also the pulley maybe, but IIRC thats a stock size pulley just lighter weight right? If its stock size & not a UDP then there will be no problem. As for the blitz compressor thats a good choice. If you look around, you can find out that it has 3 settings. Off, Low Bost & High Bost. It uses a magnetic clutch to help with the 3 different settings. So in Off you should have normal operation of your car. With low bost I think its like 2-3psi & high is 4-6psi or something like that.

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i would say you probably wouldn't want to put an exhaust on your car before the turbo, cause you'd probably want a turbo exhaust set up, not a N/A setup
Kind of. You want a more free flowing but not as free as a turbo exhaust set up. With turbos you normaly want straight pipe back from the turbo. This is to help reduce turbo lag. Less backpressure = better spool up. Now in a S/C engine you are getting more Air into the engine + Fuel. So you will get more exhaust out. You still need some back pressure in the set up to help it work right. If you went free flow I would see the bottom of the torque curve go down with overall top end going up some. For day to day driving what he has now should be enough.
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The Blitz Compressor states it works off a magnetic clutch. Since i already bought the TRD clutch should i sell it, or is the blitz part an add on?



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