Cheshire_Cat
10-08-2003, 10:52 PM
Which one do you like? Which one do you not like?
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View Full Version : Strut bar for the xA..... 2fixA 10-09-2003, 02:21 AM when you say strut bar, you mean the front strut tower brace? And do you mean by performance or just looks? I happen to like the way the Hotchkis looks b/c it's metal and not anodized, but I drive a Phantom Grey so it works for me.. scionracerxA 10-10-2003, 02:46 AM yeah but the hotchkis bar doesn't do anything really.................you need support on the underside since the top part of the car is solid already............ DoNuT 10-10-2003, 03:18 AM yeah but the hotchkis bar doesn't do anything really.................you need support on the underside since the top part of the car is solid already............ Well in that case, not only does Hotchkis do nothing, but so does all the other strut bars. Can't wait till Hotchkis comes out with the sway bar tho =) 2fixA 10-10-2003, 03:33 PM i've heard back and forth as to whether that top mounted strut bar will do anything since the towers are so close to the firewall. By their opinion, and my curiousity, I would imagine that idea is right, that being so close to a rigid horizontal piece it is unlikely to flex that much.. but then I also hear the same thing about under carriage reinforcements.. I'm trying to deduce why the undercarriage would flex anymore or less than up top and my conclusion is that the "tunnel" that runs up and down the car has no rigid horizontal reinforcement and hence the need for some additional.. trial and error is the name of the game at this point... randode 10-10-2003, 03:35 PM i like this one the best. :wink: http://home.earthlink.net/~randode/strutbar.jpg kikimaja 10-10-2003, 04:55 PM Okay, Please correct me if I am wrong. I think the strut bar looks good. Good work Randode. However, based on what I have read it seems to me that it only looks good and serves no real purpose based on what was said in the previous posts. What do y'all think? randode 10-10-2003, 05:06 PM i can feel a difference with it. It does feel more secure durring hard cornering (like the fwy onramp at 60 mph) kikimaja 10-10-2003, 05:11 PM Thanks Randode for the info. eric_m 10-10-2003, 07:51 PM are you talking trash on randode's crap? strut bars actually do help in cornering because even though the firewall is fairly supportive, the strut towers have side to side flex that is greatly reduced when you put a bar from one end to the other. it totally works. i have the JIC aluminum one and after i installed it, my front end was tighter than a catholic school girl. randode 10-10-2003, 07:55 PM i have the JIC aluminum one and after i installed it, my front end was tighter than a catholic school girl. hehe, ive known i few of those in my time. :wink: eric_m 10-10-2003, 08:03 PM well they were looser than a bangkok whore after you got done with them, you big stud. Cheshire_Cat 10-10-2003, 08:10 PM This is the one I like : http://www.veilside.com/veilsideusa/frames.html The guy at Veilside said it won't work on an xA, but they make stuff for Toyota, so it should fit, right? kikimaja 10-10-2003, 08:24 PM are you talking trash on randode's crap? i have the JIC aluminum one and after i installed it, my front end was tighter than a catholic school girl. I am not talking trash whatsoever. Do I sound like I am? I don't mean to. Tighter than a catholic school girl? interesting comparison! randode 10-10-2003, 08:30 PM this topic is getting very bizzare eric_m 10-13-2003, 04:24 PM sorry randy. i guess we're all just getting in touch with our inner evil! har har. anarvan 11-04-2003, 05:08 PM Question for randode - what are the measuments for your strut bar (ie. left tower bolts measured to right tower bolts and tower bolt pattern)... I would like to know so can compare to my Echo - see if Scion bars fit or may have to make my own... TRD bars are way toooo expensive randode 11-04-2003, 05:48 PM heres the production model as seen on Cheshire Cat's xA. http://home.earthlink.net/~randode/DSC01417.jpg I dont have one in front of me, so I dont have the measurements. anarvan 11-04-2003, 05:51 PM When you get a chance for the measurements - please and thanks DenZinz 11-04-2003, 07:47 PM According to my G-tech pro, Randode Racing Strut bar increased handling by at least 10%-20%. randode 11-04-2003, 10:08 PM and the sticker adds 3hp. Mr_scion 11-04-2003, 10:52 PM i hear that with helping in cornering they also help with torque steer on fwd is this true? Kodokan_4 11-05-2003, 01:07 AM Does anyone make a CF STB for the xA? If I can find out who makes them out of CF, I can ask them to make me a carbon/kevlar version. -Pete Cheshire_Cat 11-05-2003, 04:51 AM heres the production model as seen on Cheshire Cat's xA. http://home.earthlink.net/~randode/DSC01417.jpg I dont have one in front of me, so I dont have the measurements. I can tell you all that handling is greatly improved with the Randode Racing strut bar. And I'm not just saying that because Randy is my sponsor.......... scionracerxA 11-05-2003, 05:21 AM and the sticker adds 3hp. hey randy, it's 3 HP to the wheels...... :lol: Mr_scion 11-05-2003, 10:59 PM Does anyone make a CF STB for the xA? If I can find out who makes them out of CF, I can ask them to make me a carbon/kevlar version. -Pete www.scioned.com http://www.scioned.com/StrutBar_Carbon_small.jpg Kodokan_4 11-06-2003, 04:09 AM Does anyone make a CF STB for the xA? If I can find out who makes them out of CF, I can ask them to make me a carbon/kevlar version. -Pete www.scioned.com http://www.scioned.com/StrutBar_Carbon_small.jpg Thanks, Mr Scion! I would like to have one made out of carbon/kevlar, but if I can't, I'll go with CF. The mounts on the JIC look weak, but that's not the problem for me. It looks like the JIC logo is underneath the clearcoat, and I don't want to buy parts that I can't shave. I'm also hoping to find a manufacturer in North America that will make a CF xA STB. That way, I can hit 'em up for a carbon/kevlar version (it's the same amount of work). The STB on my S does make a noticable difference. http://gallery.s2ki.com/imagecatalog/imageview/78316/1 -Pete randode 11-06-2003, 03:33 PM note: these bars all bolt together. If the brackets are bolted to the bar, wouldnt this work like a pivot? Under hard cornering the bar could move, thus making it totally useless. I think these bolt together bars are meerly cosmetic. This is my professional opinion. :wink: Scionic 11-06-2003, 03:52 PM and the sticker adds 3hp. hey randy, it's 3 HP to the wheels...... :lol: That's pretty good compared to the usual 2 HP....Randode race stickers rock!!! EchoJai 11-15-2003, 09:34 PM Does anyone make a CF STB for the xA? If I can find out who makes them out of CF, I can ask them to make me a carbon/kevlar version. -Pete www.scioned.com http://www.scioned.com/StrutBar_Carbon_small.jpg Thanks, Mr Scion! I would like to have one made out of carbon/kevlar, but if I can't, I'll go with CF. The mounts on the JIC look weak, but that's not the problem for me. It looks like the JIC logo is underneath the clearcoat, and I don't want to buy parts that I can't shave. I'm also hoping to find a manufacturer in North America that will make a CF xA STB. That way, I can hit 'em up for a carbon/kevlar version (it's the same amount of work). The STB on my S does make a noticable difference. http://gallery.s2ki.com/imagecatalog/imageview/78316/1 -Pete what's that can you have that's in between the two pipes? also, would strut bars for the xA and xB work for the echo? Kodokan_4 11-22-2003, 06:03 AM what's that can you have that's in between the two pipes? The Silver painted canister contains a K&N type conical air filter. -Pete |
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