the Scion survived a full day of road racing with no ill effects!
Brakes are fine, engine never even got very hot, clutch seems fine.
My suspension setup felt reasonably well balanced. Could use a bit more camber front and rear, but at the rear thats impossible :(
I've got camber bolts on the way for the front.
kdanie
03-05-2004, 03:40 AM
Sounds like a good time. How did you do compared to other cars??
ken
jackmott
03-05-2004, 04:19 AM
Sounds like a good time. How did you do compared to other cars??
ken
I think the only car I was quicker than was a VW GTI, and probably only because I had better tires, not sure.
I passed quite a few but only because they weren't very good drivers.
Horsepower matters a LOT on a road course, and I had the least of all =)
Mr_scion
03-05-2004, 08:29 PM
Could use a bit more camber front and rear, but at the rear thats impossible :(
who said it was impossible?????????
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6755
http://sr20.hybrids.jp/van/scion/matt_on_euroline_n/camber03.jpg
Thirty-Nine
03-05-2004, 09:03 PM
That is very excellent, jackmott!
I had wanted an xB, but figured it probably wouldn't work for the occational autocrosser/track day. (I'm not hard-core about either, but do attend a couple of autocrosses each year and a road course about once a year). The xA seems like it'd be more suited to "spirited" driving. I figured some meaty sway bars, good shocks and springs, maybe some engine work, and the xA might actually be a good little weekend warrior as well as a daily driver. It's light weight is also an advantage.
Do you have any pictures of your car on, or off the track?
I wonder if anyone would consider campaigning an xA in the SCCA club racing or similar? I've seen everything from Renault Allanices, Suzuki Swifts, Ford Probes, even Toyota Tercels being competitive on road courses. A stripped out, roll-cage equipped xA might make a decent little track car.
jackmott
03-05-2004, 10:41 PM
Could use a bit more camber front and rear, but at the rear thats impossible :(
who said it was impossible?????????
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6755
http://sr20.hybrids.jp/van/scion/matt_on_euroline_n/camber03.jpg
is that setup adjustable?
how does it work? I would imagine it would put some odd stress on the trailing arm joint.
*EDIT* - ah never mind, I see how it works now.
Make some with about half that much camber and I would be interested =)
jackmott
03-05-2004, 10:43 PM
That is very excellent, jackmott!
I had wanted an xB, but figured it probably wouldn't work for the occational autocrosser/track day. (I'm not hard-core about either, but do attend a couple of autocrosses each year and a road course about once a year). The xA seems like it'd be more suited to "spirited" driving. I figured some meaty sway bars, good shocks and springs, maybe some engine work, and the xA might actually be a good little weekend warrior as well as a daily driver. It's light weight is also an advantage.
Do you have any pictures of your car on, or off the track?
I wonder if anyone would consider campaigning an xA in the SCCA club racing or similar? I've seen everything from Renault Allanices, Suzuki Swifts, Ford Probes, even Toyota Tercels being competitive on road courses. A stripped out, roll-cage equipped xA might make a decent little track car.
Ive got some pictures on CD that will be coming to me in a couple weeks from the track day.
an older civic hatch still makes way more sense as a cheap lightweight track car. cheaper, just as light, much lower, better suspension geometry.
But it was plenty fun to beat up on around the track.
Thirty-Nine
03-06-2004, 02:21 PM
I've owned four Civics; I currently own a 1998 Sedan (soon-to-be-wife's car) and a 1998 Coupe with suspension mods, and a few bolt-on engine parts, too. I also had 2000 DX hatch back (stock), and 1979 1200 (mostly stock).
The double-wishbone suspension on the 88-2000 Civics is a wonderful thing. However, I had my Civic stolen about a year ago (it was recovered) and ever since then, I've wanted to A)Buy something less prone to theft and B)Get another hatchback (I had a 2001 Focus that could swollow just about any cargo with the seats down). However, I want a compromise of styling, utility, and performance. Although the xA is a a bit short on the performance end, it really isn't much worse than my Civic EX, engine wise.
The last car I had with a beam rear axle was my 1999 Sentra SE. It still handled well on the autocross course, but in daily drying, the Sentra's suspension geometry was poor. There was very little shock travel to be had, and almost none when lowered 1.9".
Mr_scion
03-06-2004, 06:30 PM
Could use a bit more camber front and rear, but at the rear thats impossible :(
who said it was impossible?????????
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6755
http://sr20.hybrids.jp/van/scion/matt_on_euroline_n/camber03.jpg
is that setup adjustable?
how does it work? I would imagine it would put some odd stress on the trailing arm joint.
*EDIT* - ah never mind, I see how it works now.
Make some with about half that much camber and I would be interested =)
ya if u have n-e questions pm scionvan or Opr8r
(scionvan made them for opr8r xb)