Ok, first off, I love Toyotas. I have a Pontiac Grand Am right now and it has given me nothing but trouble. So I went out and bought a Scion tC, so i wont have to worry about problems with my car(im a college student and cant afford it). My parents have always owned Toyotas, and have never had problems with them. So i just assumed the tC was a high quality product as well. However, ive been reading these fourms, and it seems everyone is having problems. Windows, Rattling, Tranny problems, Buttons getting stuck on the center console, noises from the airbox, and even wierd noises from the MT. I ordered a manual transmission 2006 tC just yesterday. Is it really that bad, or just isolated problems? Thanks.

The tC is like any other new car that comes out... It is going to have its problems, hopefully all minor... but its inevitable. Its a good car with fewer problems than most... I have had my tC for a year and I haven't felt any kind of regret.

every car has some problems even toyotas. mine has not given me any problems personally.

Don't buy a scion then.


End of discussion.

But yes, isolated problems and/or people now knowing how the car works.

a first year car always have problems. but the problems with the tc is very minor, and are usually dealed-fixed like rattles.

Don't buy a scion then.


End of discussion.

But yes, isolated problems and/or people now knowing how the car works.


Listen...I was asking a simple question. If you want to get all rude about it, dont reply!

Also, for every one member here that posts a problem with their car, there are countless others who don't have that problem. No one has ever posted here that their windows still work or that their sunroof didn't shatter.
Any forum will make a car seem negative, since it's human nature to dwell on the more unique bad experiences than to discuss the more common good ones...
This is the 4th Toyota-brand car my family has had in my lifetime (81 Celica, 94 Camry, 2000 ES300, and 2006 tC). My father saw my tC when my parents came up to visit last weekend, and immediately said that it seemed as nice and well put together as his Lexus (except for the leather), so for the money, you can hardly go wrong...

yes they're crap, stay away from scions

That is a very good point. Thank you for all of your replies.

It also turns out that new model Scion buyers expect a WHOLE lot more from their cars than most people.
When Scions came out, the initial JD Power (peoples poll) rated them kind of low. But that was because the survey includes questions like, "How does your car rate on power?" While lacking in power comparatively, the Scion (XB in this case) gets around just fine. On ramps and passing are no problem. There's also the armrest and air conditioning issues that were addressed later.

yeah,.... 6000 miles and not even the slightest problem...

I'm sure you'll get a really unbiased opinion on a scion internet board. :rofl:

I'm proud to say that i'm a tC owner....silver, got it on Sept 21 2004 .... 15000 miles so far....the car is amazing, and I can only say good things about it,I have NO noyse from any windows nor hatch, mine is an automatic transmision. With 13gal I run about 400miles on hgway/ 300 miles in city. I do enjoy my mini iPod and XM radio add it to sound system. I'm glad i choosed the tC over the Altima or Accord, for 17k it's a sweet deal. :clap:

30,000 miles so far. I have the following problems:

Hatch rattle when going over rough roads.
That little cover for the radio squeaks.
The Moonroof creaks going over speed bumps.

That's my car. Yours may vary. If you have questions, just ask.

Ok, first off, I love Toyotas. I have a Pontiac Grand Am right now and it has given me nothing but trouble. So I went out and bought a Scion tC, so i wont have to worry about problems with my car(im a college student and cant afford it). My parents have always owned Toyotas, and have never had problems with them. So i just assumed the tC was a high quality product as well. However, ive been reading these fourms, and it seems everyone is having problems. Windows, Rattling, Tranny problems, Buttons getting stuck on the center console, noises from the airbox, and even wierd noises from the MT. I ordered a manual transmission 2006 tC just yesterday. Is it really that bad, or just isolated problems? Thanks.

You are reading a lot into a very small percentage of owners. I have never heard any complaints about the windows (except from those who do not read the manual on resetting them). The sunroof is questionable and may have issues on some cars.. but that is being researched and will be recalled if there is an issue. I have heard about 5 tranny complaints, two of them MAYBE sounded like a real issue. The others sounded more like people getting used to an auto. Some have had rattles. Never heard of buttons getting stuck, and cant see how they could after taking it apart and looking at it unless someone spilled something in them. The airbox noise is coming from the throttle body. It is part of the design and is covered in a ton of posts on here. Sounds good to most people. I have never heard a weird noise from the tranny.

Now, my tC. I hear an occassional rattle from the arm that holds the wind defletor, but only if I slam the door too hard, never while driving. That is my huge list of issues. I have put 18000 miles on it, with a bunch of 9 hour + road trips. Having a mechanic for a father, worked on my own cars my whole life and an engineering degree makes me pretty picky about design, and I can say that I am impressed overall.

You have to realize that there are literally thousands of users on here, with maybe a fraction of a percent complaining about issues. A lot of those (such as the airbox "issue" ) have nothing to them when you look into it.

I think you did good by getting the '06 model. All those anomolies should be worked out by now. I've had no problem siwth mine, but I've only had it since March. I just started getting the moon roof creek but only after installing springs and sways. I would have waited for the '06 (volume knob and steering wheel controls!) if it came out sooner. My no-air-having integra was killin me in this Vegas heat!

I think they have addressed most issues on the 05s.. but I dont have them.. The steering wheel controls are cool... if you plan on never going with an aftermarket deck, in which case you will have non functioning buttons on the wheel. I still am not bothered about not having a volume knob.. the last stereo I had with one was made in 1985 :P But I do reccommend the car, I love 05 :love:

Most of the issues I've seen brought up in here are either minor problems that have fixes underway by the company, or non- problems like the ridiculous whining that some owners do about the intake sound coming from the engine.
You want to experience real crap cars, go buy a late model VW. I'll tell you, you'll be pulling your hair out because of the real major problems you'll encounter with those cars pretty quickly. I owned one and it completely died in the middle of a dangerous dark area of a freeway at 11:00 PM, while going 70 MPH. I barely got it to the shoulder without getting killed by speeding cars around me. THE ODOMETER READ A MEASLY 223 MILES WHEN IT HAPPENED! ONE WEEK OLD! The ECU totally fried itself out with no option of any limp modes, my then brand new Passat had to take a 30 mile ride on a flatbed truck back to the dealerships. AND THAT WAS JUST THE FIRST PROBLEM WITH THE CAR! It was one after another breakdown after that for the next seven years till I can get enough money together to replace it. And this relibility problem with VWs goes through the whole model spectrum of that company. Just visit some of the VW sites.
NOW THAT'S CRAP!!!!!!
The Scion TC that I now have is 1 millin times better than any crappy VW, as far as I'm concerned!! JMO!!

Still mad at VW!!! - Chombi!

Ive only had my car for a month, but I couldn't be happier with it. I experienced a rattleing noise from the hatch, but it turned out to be the license plate holder. Think of all the scion owners, there are some people on here that own more than one scion, would people keep buying them if they were crap?

VW sucks man, most european cars sucks wit their electrical problem, if i can pull out this high school report i did, european, especially VW, has the highest rating for electrical problem, sorry to hear about that Chombi,

but n e way, GM sucks also, in my thoughts about GM, it's a company that is a total failure, and inorder to surivive, they buy out other companies, and live off their profit for a bit, while doing that, they screw up the quality of those cars. therefore toyota is here to save their asses

but anyway, about scions, yeah they are fairly new car, i am not sure when have they been out, but maybe 3 years ago? can't rmemeber, is when i first heard about them, that's 3 years man, a begining of a new car company. It is bound to have some bugs

life is all about risks, you can give it a try, if not sell the car. Depreciation of japanese car are close to nothing for the first year.

I have had my BSP tC (5 speed) for a little over a month (only 600 miles though) and have had absolutely no problems at all... perhaps late year 2005s dont have these problems either.. or I haven't driven enough.

no

Tranny problems? I personally haven't heard of any, besides people not liking the gear ratio (Wich i think the ratio rocks! so much fun to drive). Rattles and squeaks? Yah i have rattles and squeaks, nothing major that having my radio on the "10" setting on my volume control can't handle. The largest problem for the tC I think would have to be the Sunroof (although I don't have any problems with mine yet) and the TIRES a close 2nd. Potenzas are absolutly teh suck when it comes to grip and traction.

VW sucks man, most european cars sucks wit their electrical problem, if i can pull out this high school report i did, european, especially VW, has the highest rating for electrical problem, sorry to hear about that Chombi,

but n e way, GM sucks also, in my thoughts about GM, it's a company that is a total failure, and inorder to surivive, they buy out other companies, and live off their profit for a bit, while doing that, they screw up the quality of those cars. therefore toyota is here to save their asses

but anyway, about scions, yeah they are fairly new car, i am not sure when have they been out, but maybe 3 years ago? can't rmemeber, is when i first heard about them, that's 3 years man, a begining of a new car company. It is bound to have some bugs

life is all about risks, you can give it a try, if not sell the car. Depreciation of japanese car are close to nothing for the first year.

I would hardly call GM a failure, that is not even close to being true. They have been industry leaders in the past WAAAAYYYYY before the japanese caught up and surpassed them . Their problem now is that they laid back on past achievements for far too long and let the competition jump ahead. They have every bit of potential to climb back on top if they had some smart, solid leadership. Keep in mind that minus Scion, GM outsold Toyota last year. They have gotten themselves in a huge mess right now, and have let innovation and quality slip. But they could stop making cars today and overall be more successful than anyone else out there. Just because they are screwing up now does not make them a failure overall.

15,000 miles and no problems, i def think this car is worth the $$$

keep in mind that GM consists of the sales of 9 or so different companies compared to the three components of the Toyota Corp (toyota, lexus, scion), scions first year of sales as well. This is only comparing sales in america too...
I do agree that Japanese companies have jumped far ahead of the domestic competition, and GM does have a laid back styling ( stuck in the 80's). Even if they are getting better, GM is still far behind the fit and finish of Toyotas quality. GM would have to dump massive amounts of money into the manufacting line and new engineering methods, putting them further behind.... just my opinion

I bought my BSCP tC last July so it will be a year.. i have absolutely no problems with the car at all. the intake noise comes from the throttle body and personally, i think it sounds cool. LOOK. the tC is a sporty kinda car. IF YOU DONT WANT THE SPORTY KINDA LOOK OR FEEL OF A SPORTY CAR, THEN GET A MINIVAN. YOU WONT FEEL A THING! I love my tC and i have no complaints so far.

I love my tC. I've owned it since Feb. Man! They have volume control now on the steering?

I didn't read all the posts, so ignore me if you have already heard it; but this forum is going to give a sort of negative impression of Scions, because when your car is running fine, you dont really have much to say. But as soon as something goes wrong with it, you are going to be on here telling everyone, and see if they are having the same problem.

Personally, besides the accident I had that needs some body work, I love my TC and have had no problems.

FYI:
About 4 months and over 12k miles. A lot of highway miles.

they definitely are crap-that's why most of the people who have them love them, including myself. :lalala:

Yeah, join the crap loving crowd wontcha?

yes for reals

the only problem im having is rattling, which is not a major problem. all new model cars have problems. remember when the Ford Focus came out? That car had like a million recalls. The tC doesnt even have a single recall yet. it does not have many problems for a new model car. the forum makes it seem like the car has a lot of problems but thats only because everyone posts only negative things, and not very positive which is common

remember this is a forum where people come to get help, most tC owners are probbably fine

Don't buy a scion then.


End of discussion.

But yes, isolated problems and/or people now knowing how the car works.
The guy has a real genuine concern, and all you have to say is "ZOMG I LOVE SCION YOU ARE LOSAR SCION IS GREATEST NOTHING EVER GOES WRONG!!1111!!!!ONE11!"

Toyota/Scion is a great brand, with great quality, everyone on earth knows that, but for the love of god, stop with the fanboyism.

I'm sure you'll get a really unbiased opinion on a scion internet board. :rofl:
You hit the nail on the head.

Don't buy a scion then.


End of discussion.

But yes, isolated problems and/or people now knowing how the car works.
The guy has a real genuine concern, and all you have to say is "ZOMG I LOVE SCION YOU ARE LOSAR SCION IS GREATEST NOTHING EVER GOES WRONG!!1111!!!!ONE11!"

Toyota/Scion is a great brand, with great quality, everyone on earth knows that, but for the love of god, stop with the fanboyism.

Sorry to break it to you but when someone uses a thread title which seems to suggest Scions are crap, than he/she/it is obviously asking to get flamed. So you should attack the OP for choosing such a tone, instead of a more moderate approach like "I'm worried about possible problems with my new car".

The tC is a great car, I'm a college student also.. my last car (1999 Infinity I30) crapped out on me enough to the point wherei found my self looking for a new car. When I looked at Scion's i thouhgt strongly about the xB, because i'm into sounds and wanted to have a car that banged. I liked the tC because it stuck out i thought.
But, 20 stacks was alot compared to the 16 the xb was going to be.

The reason there are rattles and all these little "design" issues is because Toyota has never designed a car as such. There are few (if any) engine or transmission problems because alot of the engine build has been taken from the camry. The car is great, and has 4+ years backing the preformance. If your worried about rattling or any of the other problems, they all should be covered by the warenty and most of the time are only noticed by the pickiest of people.

The only problem i have suffered with my tC is that the dealer installed a 2005 radio in a 2006 car. one call and it was fixed in 18 hours (no lie). The tC is a great car, I would have bought one over my infinity (even before the problems)

Don't buy a scion then.


End of discussion.

But yes, isolated problems and/or people now knowing how the car works.
The guy has a real genuine concern, and all you have to say is "ZOMG I LOVE SCION YOU ARE LOSAR SCION IS GREATEST NOTHING EVER GOES WRONG!!1111!!!!ONE11!"

Toyota/Scion is a great brand, with great quality, everyone on earth knows that, but for the love of god, stop with the fanboyism.

Your reply makes absolutely no sense with his post. And then below you totally agree with a post that is negative sounding. Confused?