We thought that we would make an “official” post as to what the status is on our turbo kits. We have been very busy finishing these kits as well as the other products that we have been releasing for the tC.

The turbo kits are ready to ship minus the turbo inlet pipe. We redesigned this last and it was the last piece to go to the bender. We sent these weeks ago and it has still not arrived. We have enough of these coming to fill all turbo orders and to allow us to pre build 25 kits. We have continued to build on the rest of kits waiting to ship so that this delay will not postpone everything from here on out.

We honestly never expected to sell as many kits as we have and we were simply not prepared. We are still only a month behind our initial release date which we are not proud of but..... we are still doing much better than others. Unfortunately, with mass production one pipe, nut screw whatever stops the entire process.

We have switched to Tial BOV as they provide a much more consistent idle and they make the kit look much better when they match the Wastegate. We will call and confirm these color options prior to shipping, as we have already done with all the first batch kits.

We are proud to be the first to release a kit for the tC and we are confident that you all who have supported us this long will be equally happy with your choice. We are very honored that so many of you feel so strong when supporting us and to this we simply say thank you. The kits as with the rest of our products are of great quality and put performance and reliability first.

If there are any questions or concerns we are always available at sales@thescionstore.com or by calling the shop 502-371-RACE. We try to watch the board’s best we can but we tend to miss some post. Our PM box is empty again so please feel free to send questions there also.

We know there have been a lot of concerns and questions about us raising the price on the kit and now they have not shipped. We will honor the preorder pricing once again until the kits ship. We have always stood behind our word and this is no different.

I hope this answers most questions and clears up some misconception about the kit. If there are any questions please feel free to post up or reach us as mentioned above.

Thanks

-ZPIracing

you can send mine and I can put it in I have two other cars to drive and my timeframe is VERY short. I will wait for the inlet or fab my own. :pray:

This is defintly something that we have thought about. Give us a call tomorrow and we will see what we can do. There is deintly some liability there for us to do this but we may be able to work something out.

I will and I'll wait on the intake but at least I can start the install, like I said I have two other cars..

i can't wait until i get mines 8)

also, is the s-pipe included in the turbo kits?

hey what i have been wondering is what is the max psi potential from theese kits, like the stage 1 kit what is it cappable of and what would it take to get it there

I still have yet to see any pic's of this ZPI turbo kit. can you post any pic's on and off of the car?????

I still have yet to see any pic's of this ZPI turbo kit. can you post any pic's on and off of the car?????

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=70927

Are you guys open on Saturday's. I would love to take a tip up to KY and check out your shop, and possibly any TC's with your turbo system installed.

We are not offically open on Sat. We are however usally here. Just call on Friday and make sure.

The turbo is good for about 19-21psi. We are out of injector at 550cc with 13-14psi. At this boost level we are on a standard Stage 1 with a little diffrent tuning. This is what are car was running when it went 12.12@114

out of curiosity, is it possible to have a turbo kit purchased from you tuned to the same specs as your track car? or would it not be safe for long term use? Is there a reason why u had to tune it differntly to get those numebrs? what would the numbers be otherwise

We would be more than willing to send the map to any of our stage 1 customers that would like to turn the boost up. We have had no problems running this boost on pump gas. We would suggest that you have the correct monitoring equipment egt..AFR etc..

would this map require larger injectors? What does it spike at with these bosst levels

13 psi with the 550cc that come with the stage 0 the car is at like 95-98% duty cycle.

is the s-pipe included in the turbo kits?

what kind of turbo do you use? is it a 16G or 18G?

to answer the following two questions, you can check out one of the 5 billion introductory threads on zpi and their turbo kits.

My question to you, ZPI, is if its conceivable to be holding at around 17 with spikes at 19 with a larger injector on the stage one kit with your track fuel map

to answer the following two questions, you can check out one of the 5 billion introductory threads on zpi and their turbo kits.

My question to you, ZPI, is if its conceivable to be holding at around 17 with spikes at 19 with a larger injector on the stage one kit with your track fuel map

i've already read the numerous zpi threads. i am just making sure that it does come with one as previously stated in a different thread.

it is a 16G for stage 0 and stage 1. stage 2 uses a 20G turbocharger

ZPI i've PM'd you twice now :nails: please write back cause i am anxiously awaiting to come down to talk to you guys about buying a kit next spring.

We are not offically open on Sat. We are however usally here. Just call on Friday and make sure.



Cool, I'm looking to come up next Sat. 7/16/05. Hope you guys are around then.

Quick question, are you stating that with a stage 1 kit, my TC is capable of 12sec. passes. If that's the case, then stage 1 is enough for me.

hey zpi what was the muffler that you had on your tc? was it the apex n1? i just put that on my car (replacing the injen) and it sounds great. id recommend it to everyone out there and got it for 190 on ebay shipped! anyways i also wanted to know if those people finally let you know whats up on those pipes. i really need to have this thing on within a month because im a college student and only home for the summer. home is where all the tools and good stuff is at and cant do it in my parking lot of san antonio apartments. anyways i know your doing what you can do, just a lil anxious.

could you post up a precise parts list? what is the difference between the stage 0 and 1 besides higher boost and hp(obviously)?

i see that your kit comes with fuel pump and regulator...did you change the returnless fuel system to a traditional return style? if not how is the regulator installed? in the tank?

could you post up a precise parts list? what is the difference between the stage 0 and 1 besides higher boost and hp(obviously)?

i see that your kit comes with fuel pump and regulator...did you change the returnless fuel system to a traditional return style? if not how is the regulator installed? in the tank?

You going to run a vacuum line all the way to the fuel tank as well?

Any update on turbo Order #12 aka me?

HAven't heard from ya in a few days since we finalized my black chrome piping ;)

You going to run a vacuum line all the way to the fuel tank as well?

you do realize that the stock fuel pressure regulator is in the tank right?? :doh:

We do have a return system that we have built for the tC that we where going to use with the kit but we no longer are going to. We have went with a little smaller pump from a Lexus and we no longer need to do a regualtor mod.

The biggest diffrence between the 0 and 1 is the boost levels, injectors, FMIC, and Emanage.

-zpi

em.. about that kit being shippd?

thanks for a reply... :tap:

The biggest diffrence between the 0 and 1 is the boost levels, injectors, FMIC, and Emanage. -zpi

I would hope the stage zero has Emanage? This must be a typo.... :nails:

The biggest diffrence between the 0 and 1 is the boost levels, injectors, FMIC, and Emanage. -zpi

I would hope the stage zero has Emanage? This must be a typo.... :nails:

no kiddin' ....

he did say the ecu can handle 6 - 8 lbs...

but who knows. seeing as we havent gotten a parts list yet =\

The stage zero does not come with Emanage. This is what the stage 1 has that the stage 0 does not:

All of stage 0 plus

FMIC

Injectors

Emanage

Patch Harness

The stage zero does not come with Emanage.
That sooks... I don't know how I let this one slip by. We were all talking about E-manage instead of a reflash from the biggining. :nope:

reflash??

The stage zero does not come with Emanage.
That sooks... I don't know how I let this one slip by. We were all talking about E-manage instead of a reflash from the biggining. :nope:

not to mention those 550cc injectors i was told were in w/the 0.

this is getting out of hand.

Perhaps you were told they were available as upgrades? The primary difference between 0 and 1 (as stages.. ) is a different fuel map necessitating larger injectors. Don't know about the Emanage though.

You want too much for very cheap. It would be retarded to assume that a $1000 dollar difference between stage 0 and stage 1 would just be an intercooler. :eyebrow:

well at least this will be an easy install and easy to go back to stock for warranty work. :love:

well at least this will be an easy install and easy to go back to stock for warranty work. :love:
Thank you oleman... that was the first "look on the brightside" kind of post I've read in days.

he said that stage 0 comes with E-manage. I was confirmed over the phone months ago

Im pretty sure he ment upgrade in the Emanage so it can handle the higher boost.

Ummm I was under the impression that the Stage 0 does NOT have an emanage because the Stock ECU can compensate for small boost. I thought this was odd at first but it makes sense since. If I wanted to install the TRD supercharger and I couldnt get to a dealer for the reflash after I installed it so the Stock ecu would have to handle a little boost if nessary. Thats my guess though.

so let me get this straight...for the 3000 dollar entry fee for a stage 0, we get a log manifold, 16G turbo (which i can get for 500, im sure you guys get it for even cheaper), tial wastegate, downpipe, chare piping without intercooler and a tial bov, and the oil lines? am i missing something? no emanage? no injectors? if this is true, i can get those parts for 1700 bucks, and if i can run the stage 0's 6psi on the stock ecu...why would i spend another 1300 on your kit??

who are you getting to weld all the piping for free?

who are you getting to weld all the piping for free?

I could TIG a log manifold and charge piping in 5-6 hours TOPS, and I've never done it before. An experienced welder that's making 50+ alledged kits I'd guess in the 4 hour range. Without and IC, you're only making one pipe, and it looks like the ZPI kit uses couplers anyways so there's not any welding on the IC pipes to do.

The oil lines take seriously maybe 15 minutes to make.

Big16g - $550
Tial 38 - $225
Aluminum IC piping - $150-$300 parts
Oil lines - $100
Downpipe - $200
Tial BOV - $200
Turbo Inlet pipe - $75
Log Manifold (inc. Flanges) - $400

That's $1900-$2050 in parts, excluding vacuum lines, couplers, tbolts, probably a few misc items I missed. Of course, there's some markup in parts like on the manifold, but there's also a good amount of labor involved in each kit as well. I'm being very liberal with the pricing, there is some room to play. Also, don't forget about research and development :)

50 kits in 4 hours?

so you're saying you want a kit of the quality where the welder took less than 5 minutes to weld the charge pipe and the manifold?

maybe thats why you drive a DSM LOL

I would go ripping on DSM's just yet. Considering he has a 1st gen and probably a 6 bolt I would keep quiet. :)

1st gen = great motor bad transmission
2nd gen = bad motor and decent transmission


besides.. i used to own a 1st gen 1st gen (89 TSi with flip up headlights).. so I can knock on them LOL

1st gen = great motor bad transmission
2nd gen = bad motor and decent transmission


besides.. i used to own a 1st gen 1st gen (89 TSi with flip up headlights).. so I can knock on them LOL
Not driving a TC you can't :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
This is my old 90 GSX and in no way shape or form will my TC be as fast for the little amount of money I had in it.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/gallery/data/500/4310rims_frontmount.JPG

http://www.dsmtuners.com/gallery/data/501/4310munch.jpg

Sorry Matty, I'll make sure to write the remainder of my posts at your comprehension level. I intended to say 4 hours per manifold. There's nothing to them, all the piping is pre-cut, you weld it togather, cut a hole for the turbo and weld that flange on.

Matty, there was no 89 Talon/Eclipse/Laser. The first year of production was 90. My Talon is slow too :)

Hey Munch... gorgeous 1st gen. I'm such a sucker for them in white ><

Sorry Matty, I'll make sure to write the remainder of my posts at your comprehension level. I intended to say 4 hours per manifold. There's nothing to them, all the piping is pre-cut, you weld it togather, cut a hole for the turbo and weld that flange on.

Matty, there was no 89 Talon/Eclipse/Laser. The first year of production was 90. My Talon is slow too :)

ah 4 hours makes much more sense LOL
i understand how it's made i just think that would have to be a crackhead welder to weld that fast :rofl:



as far there not being a 89 tsi... i could have sworn it was an 89.. either way it was the burgandy color on top with the grey on buttom.. turbo and all wheel drive. i beat it to death then sold it to a kid who used it for a parts car for his galant vr-4.


i only had it for 2 months so i could be wrong about the year

like turbo2liter, i could easily tig up my own log manifold in 5hrs and 400 dollars for a log is VERY liberal... if i really wanted to cut costs i could mill my own flanges at my friends shop. also the intercooler piping wouldnt cost anything to be similar to ZPI's. they have one pipe that goes from the turbo to the throttle body with a flange for the bov.

I honestly am not trying to completely slam ZPI, Im hoping they respond and tell me what am getting for my extra 1grand+ that Im not taking into account here. otherwise If i can get 3grand for those parts i might have to look into producing kits for the tc myself

otherwise If i can get 3grand for those parts i might have to look into producing kits for the tc myself

sounds like you may have a plan there.. do ur phones work? are you afraid people will outsource ur products to china to make it cheaper?

well.. things to take into account apparently.

ALL i know is, i rode in my first turbo'd car saturday and I NEED that turbo bad.
No way to get a paymant plan goin. :lalala: :lalala:
Ok have to wait till next year.

::: Edit :::

yep, two voicemails, two pms, and an email later, still havent heard.

i have a feeling the BBB is steppin in any moment

Too bad the BBB is worthless.

BBB??
my ignorance

Better Business Bureau. and yeah it's pretty much worthless. not worth the phone call or letter it takes to contact them.

If you need help getting money, parts, or your car back, I've been through it before. PM me.

damn guys, simma down a little. I drove past thier old shop sunday and it look like most of the stuff has been moved. But the person that welds all the manifolds is not in thier shop anymore, he's located at his shop, FFHP, so maybe he's backlogged with all the stuff he has to do or something. You guys have been getting your 100 buck refunds right? If so, just be a little patient, i'm sure they'll respond back eventually. I know they are still around, as one of thier employees just recently finished up WRX and posted some pics of it on our local forum.

They are around, and I have talked to them everyday. When ever i have a question they answer it, They are a buisness, they are going to busy from time to time, just because when you call they dont answer doesnt mean they are trying to screw you or anyone else. I am getting tired of a select few on this board talking ____ or trying to say that they are avoiding people, I helped them move, I know how much they have to do at their new building to make it the way they want it, Things dont happen over night, be patient, it will be worth it. If you dont like ZPI then get the off this forum, cause all your doing is starting problems that dont need to be started. Get a life and go out some where instead of being on here trying to start stuff. I have said what was needed to be said, if you have a problem with what i said, then lets hear it, o wait, dont, cause I dont care.

David

kits have to be shipping soon or zpi is losing out on a lot of money.....pleeeeeeeeease tell me some good news soon or send us these little "care packages" or something.... zpi has been very professional every time ive talked to them, but just how can they afford to lose out on so much money?

kits have to be shipping soon or zpi is losing out on a lot of money.....pleeeeeeeeease tell me some good news soon or send us these little "care packages" or something.... zpi has been very professional every time ive talked to them, but just how can they afford to lose out on so much money?

oh.. they have a large "financial backing" remember?
just like the cars they've blown up @ previous shops that were never reimbursed(sp)

I thought I was the only one who preached about this :D

Wow……

You all are right we have about 1900 in every stage 0 kit that we sell. We preordered them to you for 2400.00 dollars with a retail price of 3000.00.

So why do we mark them up 1,000 dollars. Because we have to make a profit, we have to pay for employees, computers, insurance, building, equipment, phones, internet etc….

If you have the personal ability to make your own turbo kit then yeah you may be able to make one yourself and save a little money. Mass producing them is a different story, making them all identical, buying all the product in bulk etc..

We are very competitive priced to the market; we use a much more expensive turbocharger than our competition we do use a log manifold simply because it performs well. The kits are a good value for the money and provide a very quick car for under 20k.

We did not run away we are not going out of business we are here to stay. I am sure this makes some local Louisville guys upset but that is life. The kits will ship as soon as we can get them out the door. David was at the shop the other day and can verify that we are not BS. Hell we where doing a turbo install on a tC when he was there. We are really busy if we did not get your call over the last few weeks I am sorry the phone lines where being forwarded some got lost. We where in the middle of a move, I apologize for the lack of communication we where limited with only forwarded calls. Please call us Monday and we can answer any questions that you have.

If there are any communication problems from this point forward please email me personally at Kenny@thescionstore.com and I assure you that it will be answered.

Thanks

Kenny

1900 in them if you spend 400-450 on a log manifold, which is highly doubtful. 200 more likely. Also, all those prices are retail, so you should be getting them 15-30% cheaper.

Kenny, I heard you've been out of town lately, on vacation?

you don't own a tC, don't have a ZPI kit on order, your sole purpose is to hate on ZPI. This is indeed a poorly mod board to let a troll like you continue to post. Very poor. :loser:

Kenny, I heard you've been out of town lately, on vacation?[/quote]

Yes Colin, I was out of town, Tuesday and Wednesday, hardly long enough to be considered "vacation."

As for my wherabouts, your tracking of me seems as it is becoming to be an obsession, maybe you should spend more time concentrating on your pending lawsuit for destroying another local performance shop... I heard they are now in jury selection....

Kenny,
Sorry I have to post here but I havent been getting a response any other way lately. I am the guy from MT who purchased the stage 1 kit from you back in like April, and called June 22/23 to canel my order and was told by you that you credited my card (I have been checking with them everyday). I then last spoke with you over a week ago saying the credit went through, but I have yet to see the credit on my Visa for the purchase. This process is nearing a month now, and I desperately need my money back. I no longer have my tC and I need to put that money in another direction. I will admit that ZPI has been quite friendly and willing to help when I talk to them, but the recent problem is that I have been unable to speak with anyone. Kenny, please do get back to me,
Tony Mothka

*Edit - Kenny has contacted me, and I believe that this delay is not there fault in anyway. It is for some reason taking a great deal of time for the credit card company to get the credit back into my account. Kenny and ZPI have continued to be helpful towards my and all my questions. It just seems that there has been some problems with communication during this last move I guess.

*7/19/05 Edit - My card has had the credit posted. All is well now :)

Wow……
So why do we mark them up 1,000 dollars. Because we have to make a profit, we have to pay for employees, computers, insurance, building, equipment, phones, internet etc….

If you have the personal ability to make your own turbo kit then yeah you may be able to make one yourself and save a little money. Mass producing them is a different story, making them all identical, buying all the product in bulk etc..



you do know that what you makes absolutely no sense right?
Why would people shop at sam's club if buying in bulk was MORE expensive?

just a thought to ponder.

and to you, oldman, maybe he just doesn't want to see other people get screwed out of their money? If you know anyone from the Louisville area, they're not bull____ting. Previous companies such as these HAVE blown up cars, HAVE not reimbursed people. Just because they have some huge "financial backing" doesn't make them a decent company.
I on the other hand, have had my kit on order since april 25th. when it didnt come june 1st as planned i was a little upset. didn't come july 1st, a little more upset. it's now almost august and i've spend over 3000 dollars on this company. We should be a little upset, don't you think?

bouys...

So how many of these turbo kit customers have received their reimbursement checks? Anyone, bueller, anyone?

Cevs, you own a Scion tC, you ordered a kit, you have every right to post. turbo2liter, has come here from under the bridge to be hating on ZPI, his trolling does not help ZPI build a better kit, deliver it faster, make more HP... it only hinders ZPI.

Sure ZPI is behind 6 weeks now vs going on 19 months for TRD and almost 8 months for Scion Speed. Lets get some perspective.

For me I admit I'm sick of the whole tC thing. Igot my tC cause I need a ride, without the TRD supercharger my car has a kick my butt sign on it from anybody with grandma's Accord on up. The Oldlady's Vovlo will spank my car so so so easily. I know it is my fault, I should have got a RSX-S, Mustang GT, insert any REAL performance car here. I'm looking into a A3 Audi 6 speed or Mustang GT this week.


Hates and trolls that don't even own a tC should be banned.. period. :nope:

Well, he makes some sense if ya ask me.
Just because he doesn't own a tC doesn't mean he has no right to comment on a deal gone wrong, ya know?

Freedom of speech can kick ya in the ___ sometimes but it's what this country's based on.

Not meaning to take a swing atcha but I got my first response from ZPI today not a phone call, email, but a PM on a message board. What's that say about their customer service?

-Tony

btw.. i too am selling my tC. Not worth the wait for all these parts to come out so I bought an altima 3.5SE. I'll take NISMO over TRD anyday of the week.

Well, he makes some sense if ya ask me.
Just because he doesn't own a tC doesn't mean he has no right to comment on a deal gone wrong, ya know?

Freedom of speech can kick ya in the butt sometimes but it's what this country's based on.

Not meaning to take a swing atcha but I got my first response from ZPI today not a phone call, email, but a PM on a message board. What's that say about their customer service?

-Tony

btw.. i too am selling my tC. Not worth the wait for all these parts to come out so I bought an altima 3.5SE. I'll take NISMO over TRD anyday of the week.

freedom of speech is limited you know, slander is one of those limits. and as far as customer service i'd have to say it's pretty damn good. kenny called me today less then 24 hours after i had a problem with the install of my s-pipe (bolts and gaskets weren't in the box). they are overnighting or next daying me the bolts and gasket i need, and i didn't even buy it from them, i bought it from someone they sold it to and then wrecked his car before he could put it on. i would have to say thats pretty good if you ask me. oh and not only did he call me on a sunday, but he also called his head tech and then called me back when i had a problem with my car in "fail safe mode" after i installed my AW header.

You all were warned about the lovely past. If you get ripped off blame no one but yourself. If they pull through Im happy they are finally doing something right, although I highly doubt it.

blown away

btw.. i too am selling my tC. Not worth the wait for all these parts to come out so I bought an altima 3.5SE. I'll take NISMO over TRD anyday of the week.

amen to that. :pray:

Kenny, I heard you've been out of town lately, on vacation?

Yes Colin, I was out of town, Tuesday and Wednesday, hardly long enough to be considered "vacation."

As for my wherabouts, your tracking of me seems as it is becoming to be an obsession, maybe you should spend more time concentrating on your pending lawsuit for destroying another local performance shop... I heard they are now in jury selection....[/quote]

Oh how the rumor mill is turning. We filed a motion to set back the Jury for another few months, as we are still waiting on a response to our requests for financials back in November. Sounds fishy, eh? I haven't spent any time on that joke of a lawsuit in months.

I heard you were out of town from talking with your buddy Hal :)

Hey Kenny are your stage 0 kits shipping or are they all being pushed back along with the stage 1 and 2? Not hating just wondering cause I really want to be turboed and was considering your stage 0 kit.

Hey Kenny are your stage 0 kits shipping or are they all being pushed back along with the stage 1 and 2? Not hating just wondering cause I really want to be turboed and was considering your stage 0 kit.
As far as I know no kits are being shipped yet because they are waiting on a pipe. I was told that my kit wouldn't be shipping until August when I called :tap: :tap: . I'm starting to think I made a bad move ordering this thing from them. I jumped the gun way too soon :tap: :tap: .

Hey Kenny are your stage 0 kits shipping or are they all being pushed back along with the stage 1 and 2? Not hating just wondering cause I really want to be turboed and was considering your stage 0 kit.
As far as I know no kits are being shipped yet because they are waiting on a pipe. I was told that my kit wouldn't be shipping until August when I called :tap: :tap: . I'm starting to think I made a bad move ordering this thing from them. I jumped the gun way too soon :tap: :tap: .

I too was told they're waiting on a pipe. Sounded like it'd be a bit sooner than August but I guess thats how they keep ya interested. I did receive a tracking number this morning for a package that's arriving this afternoon but I'm pretty sure it's just the exhaust.

I'm just patiently awaiting my ZPI Turbo kit. Really it's no big deal. I understood that being part of a pre-order for a product that "no one" has yet been able place into production. For 2400, thats really not a bad deal. Especially if you pay with a reputable credit card.

Are you aware that the flang on the inlet pipe had to be specially CAD designed and then has to be laser cut? This is where the sensor goes and has to be exactly precise in size and distance. I know that these 'First' kits have to be the most quality assured. They have to be rock solid, because everything is going to be based off how well these kits perform and hold up. Seriously, would you rush out a product that was not 100% to your quality standards and your entire future is going to be founded on?
After these kits ship out, most everyone is going to quickly forget the few weeks late these kits took to arive.

I am all about quality here gentlemen. I am personally going to give them the end of the month of August to get this shipped... or you know what? It's refund/chargeback time baby and 'other' forced induction choice(s) should be available by September.
:lalala:

Good Luck ZPI
I know you want to release a superior product.

IMO I think rather than take that $100 lost to 15-20 preorders why dont you ZPI just ship out the kits without the inlet pipe and ship out the inlet pipes once you get them? I mean wouldnt that be cheaper then $100refund x 20? I figure it'll only cost like $15 to ship the inlet pipe alone. So you'll be saving $85 x20! At least that'll mean you've release the kit but only 99%

It'll take everyones unpatient ease off and everyone will abe 99% happy til they get their pipes!

All I know is im very weary of waiting for this kit, and Im in the process of selling my Tc if it doesnt come by next month

IMO I think rather than take that $100 lost to 15-20 preorders why dont you ZPI just ship out the kits without the inlet pipe and ship out the inlet pipes once you get them? I mean wouldnt that be cheaper then $100refund x 20? I figure it'll only cost like $15 to ship the inlet pipe alone. So you'll be saving $85 x20! At least that'll mean you've release the kit but only 99%

It'll take everyones unpatient ease off and everyone will abe 99% happy til they get their pipes!

that's a bad way to get out of their word. they said they would ship the kit. NOT half the kit.

well just one inlet pipe is no HALF the kit

But not having this pipe makes the kit useless!!!!

But not having this pipe makes the kit useless!!!!

exactly. and may confuse people installing it and may cause more problems than it's worth.

just be friggin patient. damn people.

All I know is im very weary of waiting for this kit, and Im in the process of selling my Tc if it doesnt come by next month

Yeah, I bought my tC, and then I asked my dealer if the TRD supercharger was out, and he said no, so I just sold him the tC back right there and then for 50% of the MSRP. 'Cause I am smart like you.

But not having this pipe makes the kit useless!!!!

At least they would be in possesion of a big chunk of what they paid instead of air. Might as well smell some fart, at least it's free.. :rofl:

But not having this pipe makes the kit useless!!!!

exactly. and may confuse people installing it and may cause more problems than it's worth.

just be friggin patient. damn people.

:rofl: You don't even have one ordered. You have nothing at stake. Go away troll. That's what you're doing, trolling around stiring crap.

But not having this pipe makes the kit useless!!!!

exactly. and may confuse people installing it and may cause more problems than it's worth.

just be friggin patient. damn people.

:rofl: You don't even have one ordered. You have nothing at stake. Go away troll. That's what you're doing, trolling around stiring crap.

They started a thread about the experiences with ZPI in the vendor experiences forum.