Break-in period question: varying speed
So, I know I'm supposed to "vary the speed" for the first 1,000 miles.
I have almost 700 miles on my xB, and I'd like to take it on a trip this weekend. It'd be about 400 miles total, all Interstate.
Is it okay to do this trip with only 700 miles as long as I don't hold 75 MPH the whole way? (e.g. go 65 for a while, then 70, then 75, and back down to 65)
I have almost 700 miles on my xB, and I'd like to take it on a trip this weekend. It'd be about 400 miles total, all Interstate.
Is it okay to do this trip with only 700 miles as long as I don't hold 75 MPH the whole way? (e.g. go 65 for a while, then 70, then 75, and back down to 65)
to my knowledge, these engines are broken in from factory. the only engines you have to break in are rebuilt ones, as they will actually have 0 miles on them. they just tell you to do a breakin to cover themselves legally.
I believe in breaking it in the way you plan to drive it. I stayed cool with mine for the first 500 then hit the highway and hammered into it. I've owned 6 new cars since '88 and have done them all this way without any problems.
If it ain't broke-in by now it never will be. Hit the highway and enjoy the ride.
If it ain't broke-in by now it never will be. Hit the highway and enjoy the ride.
Well, I've found all kinds of threads since posting this (guess I should've searched better to begin with). Like I said, I've got almost 700 miles on the engine, have rarely been over 4,000 RPM, have been varying my speed, and haven't used any oil that I've noticed. I'm guessing I'll probably be be okay to travel 400+ miles this weekend.
My mechanic friend says one should actually get the RPMs high a few times on a warm engine. He's a believer that the break-in process should consist of normal driving, which would include racing the engine every now and then, but never close to redline. Be easy on the brakes as well.
Of course this is just his opinion. He claims seals may leak 50k or so miles down the road if the car is babied off the bat and driven hard down the road.
Of course this is just his opinion. He claims seals may leak 50k or so miles down the road if the car is babied off the bat and driven hard down the road.
Originally Posted by IBJanky
I'm going to break my '06 xB HARD during the first 20 miles
I've read that will seat the rings real nice
I've read that will seat the rings real nice

I really don't think it is a big issue with these scion engines.
Walt
^bump^
I'm picking up my new xB tomorrow, and have a road trip planned for next week. Do you guys think I'd be ok to drive it? Or should I take my old car. The trip is about 300-400 miles each way.
-moore
I'm picking up my new xB tomorrow, and have a road trip planned for next week. Do you guys think I'd be ok to drive it? Or should I take my old car. The trip is about 300-400 miles each way.
-moore
I agree with IBJanky...
Drove my box relatively hard immediately to be sure the rings/cylinders sealed before glazing over. You get one shot at seating the rings before the cross honing wears off the walls. If the rings are not expanded and conform to the cylinder walls, they will not seal effectively. Only way to redo is to disassemble and rehone the cylinders. NOT!
Sounds contrary to common knowledge, but its documented and it works.
I have 550 miles on my box. First tank was 29 mpg. Driven hard! I just filled my second tank of gas tonight. This one was 32 mpg. Engine feels a lot more responsive already. It has hit redline a few times so far. Steady speed is a no-no. You need to vary the speed, load and rpms during break in. I plan on changing the oil before 1k miles.
Warm up the car then just drive it normal to medium hard. No lugging or wild redlines, but be sure to apply steady pressure mixed with instances of compression braking. Vary the speed-don't drive at one rpm long. Load but don't lug the engine. Gotta expand the rings to conform to the cylinders while the cross hatching is there.
Love the box!
Drove my box relatively hard immediately to be sure the rings/cylinders sealed before glazing over. You get one shot at seating the rings before the cross honing wears off the walls. If the rings are not expanded and conform to the cylinder walls, they will not seal effectively. Only way to redo is to disassemble and rehone the cylinders. NOT!
Sounds contrary to common knowledge, but its documented and it works.
I have 550 miles on my box. First tank was 29 mpg. Driven hard! I just filled my second tank of gas tonight. This one was 32 mpg. Engine feels a lot more responsive already. It has hit redline a few times so far. Steady speed is a no-no. You need to vary the speed, load and rpms during break in. I plan on changing the oil before 1k miles.
Warm up the car then just drive it normal to medium hard. No lugging or wild redlines, but be sure to apply steady pressure mixed with instances of compression braking. Vary the speed-don't drive at one rpm long. Load but don't lug the engine. Gotta expand the rings to conform to the cylinders while the cross hatching is there.
Love the box!
Moore, if you can get a few hundred miles on before you take your trip, and can vary your speed somewhat during the trip, then I wouldn't worry. If it is going to be a lot less miles than that, and if you envision holding the same speed for long periods, you might want to take the old car, just this once.
Freeway speeds aren't the problem, the problem is constant load/constant RPM that can let the break-in take a 'set.' If you can vary the speeds easily on the trip, it really shouldn't be a problem.
Freeway speeds aren't the problem, the problem is constant load/constant RPM that can let the break-in take a 'set.' If you can vary the speeds easily on the trip, it really shouldn't be a problem.
Originally Posted by moore
About how much should I vary the speeds? I mean, are we talking 50-70mph? Or like 20-70mph? I dunno... I don't want to risk messing it up right off the bat.
-moore
-moore
Summary of what i did:
0-1,200 = baby
1,200 - 4,000 = drive still baby, but more normally and rev high bi-weekly
4,000 - 5,000 = normal driving, rev to redline bi-weekly
5,000+ = don't worry about it, its broken in and just be sure to rev high every once in a while so the motor doesn't get used to being lazy!
Cya







