Hey I have had my XB for about 2 weeks and am wondering what my options are as far as Supercharging or putting Turbo on my XB. Any Suggestions? Whats available? Is one better than the other? and where can I get it. I still want my XB to be reliable, because I drive it a lot. Thanks.

moved...

try reading through the power hungry xA/xB forum...

Congrats on you purchase. There are a couple of kits out right now but I understand that Scion will soon release a supercharger for the car which, if installed by a dealer will retain your factory warranty. You may want to try running a search on this site for info that others have posted/shared with their own turbocharging/supercharging experiences. I think there's also a kit up for sale in the classifieds section of this site. Good luck with your project!

turbocharging-- EL prototypes will soon have a kit available
TSI extreme kit
Greddy (i think)
Custom

Supercharging-- Blitz, and i think another company make eaton roots type superchargers.



force induction on the echo motor is like play russian rolette as E.L. puts it.

If you want to go turbo, get some new rods and pistons. Not too mention upgrading your fuel delivery. And also doing something about the ECU.

Please check the Power Hungry section as indicated above.

turbocharging-- EL prototypes will soon have a kit available
TSI extreme kit
Greddy (i think)
Custom

Supercharging-- Blitz, and i think another company make eaton roots type superchargers.



force induction on the echo motor is like play russian rolette as E.L. puts it.
um el gave up from what i hear.

the other supercharger is power enterprises

Congrats on you purchase. There are a couple of kits out right now but I understand that Scion will soon release a supercharger for the car which, if installed by a dealer will retain your factory warranty. You may want to try running a search on this site for info that others have posted/shared with their own turbocharging/supercharging experiences. I think there's also a kit up for sale in the classifieds section of this site. Good luck with your project!
hmmm so more rumors of factory f/i eh ? lets hope it comes true

Dont do a turbo unless you are ready for some big headaches...Im still under construction and about 90% done w/ my install but I wont dare push that thing over 6 psi for daily driving or any driving for that matter and thats still not saying that I wont snap a rod like a twig :tap: :nails:

factory turbo will never happen...for toyota to feel safe about running a turbo on these things they wouldnt wanna push it past 3 lbs of boost for reliability purposes...the kit would be mad expensive and not worth it in toyotas eyes

Dont do a turbo unless you are ready for some big headaches...Im still under construction and about 90% done w/ my install but I wont dare push that thing over 6 psi for daily driving or any driving for that matter and thats still not saying that I wont snap a rod like a twig :tap: :nails:


Finish that thing already..... Mine needs a twin... :lalala:

I just don't think it's worth it to have in a car like this. I would maybe get a supercharger for the car if it were worth about a G. I mean cmon, 4,000 for that powerenterprise supercharger. Kidding me. Thats 1/3 of a TC : D

factory turbo will never happen...for toyota to feel safe about running a turbo on these things they wouldnt wanna push it past 3 lbs of boost for reliability purposes...the kit would be mad expensive and not worth it in toyotas eyes

Toyota does'nt make turbos for their cars. They do however make superchargers.

they dont make them . they have another company make it then slap the trd badge on it and sell it for more.

um el gave up from what i hear.
Oh really!? Can't say i blame them.

Dont do a turbo unless you are ready for some big headaches...Im still under construction and about 90% done w/ my install but I wont dare push that thing over 6 psi for daily driving or any driving for that matter and thats still not saying that I wont snap a rod like a twig :tap: :nails:


Finish that thing already..... Mine needs a twin... :lalala:

Yea man...I know I know :rofl:
I got a ride Im doing w/ my father tommorow morning for a friend of his whos son is terminally ill...its a lil fundraiser ride cause the kid loves motorcycles but when that is done Im gonna try to go real hard and finish tommorow night besides for the gauges and camcon.

Toyota does'nt make turbos for their cars. They do however make superchargers.

i dont kno if u mean they dont actually produce their own turbos or if u are refering to they dont turbo their cars cuz the mr2 and supra. and if u are refering to the first alot of manuafactuers dont make turbos themselves companies like garrett and such make them for the manufactuers.

If you want to go turbo, get some new rods and pistons. Not too mention upgrading your fuel delivery. And also doing something about the ECU.


all is true except you really wont need rods and pistons unless u are goin to be running moderate boost on these motors

but n e way good luck with ur f/i xB

what do you consider moderate boost???

I think its almost necessary to run safely if you plan on boosting more than 7 psi to change the pistons and rods.

oh dear...

oh dear...
What are you hitting Dave?? About 11 psi??

i have recorded a peak of 11.7psi...
constantly hit 11psi every day.

you gonna do the pistons/rods??

no (not yet at least)

everybody seems to think our motors can't handle a little boost. i think they are fine with it.
it all comes down to the animal driving it.

i've heard people say the 1nz can't hold up to boost for long.
i've had my box boosted for a year now.

if i do pistons & rods, its for a diff reason than the boost.

Hmm...all this talk scares the sh*t outta me cause it seems like some people are running decent boost and some people are just throwin rods like nobodys business. I guess I shouldnt worry too much...just not drive like a retard and not try to push the envelope. Dave, how much do you wanna up the compression if you decide to do the piston/rods??

you can ask people that have been in my car. i don't baby it.
i drive it hard.
i take the rev's to the redline (not hitting the limiter, thats a no no)all the time.
every stop light & toll booth i push it hard... i want to know the limits of my car. best luanching rpm's and such.
i do not have any fears of the internals getting screwed up.

if i was to do internals, i would drop the compression a bit.
10.0 or 9.5...
going up is not the best for my plans...
(btw...turbos normally lower the compression so they can run more boost...)

i still have not heard of more than 2 people with the broken/bent rod issue. so i don't know how this became such a big scare

if i was to do internals, i would drop the compression a bit.
10.0 or 9.5...
going up is not the best for my plans...
(btw...turbos normally lower the compression so they can run more boost...)

i still have not heard of more than 2 people with the broken/bent rod issue. so i don't know how this became such a big scare

I know you have another motor so I figured you were gonna go w/ an N/A setup and figured you would wanna raise compression. Im not gonna do the pistons and rods unless I run into a problem. Even if I changed them up, I wouldnt drop the compression too much cause Im not lookin to get crazy w/ pushin the boost...6-8 psi daily is fine for me...I dont wanna kill the car for the next person when I decide to sell and move on.

i do have a spare motor (still in stock trim).
i am going to build it up (when i get time/money)
it will not be NA. it too will be boosted.

like you, i am not worring about rod/pistons till i make a junk pile out of my current motor.

i do have a spare motor (still in stock trim).
i am going to build it up (when i get time/money)
it will not be NA. it too will be boosted.

like you, i am not worring about rod/pistons till i make a junk pile out of my current motor.

Only time will tell :rofl: :rofl: see ya Saturday Dave!! Only I will be w/out the box :doh: Still gotta go and show some love for NRG though!!

time will tell....i'm still waiting:tap:

you got to bring the box, flatbed it out if you have to!
see you Saturday.

Flatbed wouldnt be worth the trouble...I dont wanna be like that kid we all made fun of cause he got his car flatbedded to VIP cause he was afraid of bustin a rim...nobody wants to be "That guy" :rofl:

david theres more than 2 or 3 people with bent/broken rods. and i know two people have blown them multiple times.

what did they do to get them blown multiple times so we dont make the same mistake?

dont push the boost...as EL prototypes said its kind of like russian roulette...some people can hold boost but some motors are just not taking well to the extra boost.

david theres more than 2 or 3 people with bent/broken rods. and i know two people have blown them multiple times.
it still two people...

one one dude just wanted to push it...push it...push it.
100+NOS
75 NOS
50 NOS...all of them too much and too harsh on a motor

the linear power from a S/C or even a turbo is not gonna drop rods...

both of those people were from a year ago.
i have not heard from anyone since....


anybody want to step up and say how you blew your motor from boosting...

what did they do to get them blown multiple times so we dont make the same mistake?
see above post.

as you can see he wanted to go quick and cheap.
nos is harsh on motors. sudden and abrupt power is what killed them.

anything over a 25 shot of NOS tends to kill the 1nz...

the 100 shot blew up the first run...
the 75 did a few runs on the 1/4
the 50 did about 10 runs.

ask allblack xB he's blown his motor two or three times. and i know one of them was from a rod. yes turbo or s/c cant blow rods normally but add a 15 degree offset crank and bam. specially if it goes lean or u pound it .


also el p has blown 2 or 3 motors with their turbo.

It seems like all the people that keep on blowing motors live on the West Coast...whatsup w/ that :lalala:
Hope I didnt just curse myself :doh: :doh:

Hey Darren...what were they using in the EL kit?? Was it a GT28R or does nobody know??

i honestly dont know from what i heard they scrapped the turbo kit. even tho their site lists it as under development or whatever

i honestly dont know from what i heard they scrapped the turbo kit. even tho their site lists it as under development or whatever

Yea, i heard they stopped trying, but I wonder what turbo they were using and what RPM they were hitting full boost at...i havent been on the website in a while but the last I saw it hadnt been updated for a while.