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Minsk99
03-16-2004, 01:53 AM
15" x 8" ATS Cup rims came in today (at least two of them did). Holly fat lips!!! Check those 4" suckers out. Unfortunately they sent me all 18 offset when they were supposed to send two of them in 28 (for the front). Anyway, they should all be here and on the ride by the end of the weekend. Until then I'll just have look at them in the living room.
http://home.earthlink.net/~jefffeldman/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/102_0295.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~jefffeldman/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/102_0293.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~jefffeldman/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/102_0291.jpg

Cheif_Thundercloud
03-16-2004, 02:08 AM
always liked them on vw's....cant wait to see them on a scion.

DJ_X_Trodinaire
03-16-2004, 02:09 AM
nice! :shock:

what size tires are you gonna use?

ShadowMage
03-16-2004, 02:11 AM
:shock: Niiiice! I like those a LOT! Congrats on the reception of your rims; however, my condolences on receiving two in the wrong offset. :cry: 8) :D

mikochu
03-16-2004, 02:11 AM
Those are some pimp rims... How much did they set you back?

scionracerxb
03-16-2004, 02:22 AM
look ok...will be interesting to see how they look on the car

Minsk99
03-16-2004, 02:27 AM
I actually can't decide what size tires to put on them.. The problem is that I'm trying to find some that have raised white lettering on the side. I think that will look dope with those rims. Anyways, the only ones that seem to fit are the BFGoodrich Radial T/A. I think those look great, but the only sizes with the white lettering are 205/60/15 and 215/60/15. The 205's have a diameter of 24.7 inches, but I'm wondering if they are too narrow for the 8" rims. The 215/60 have a diameter of 25.2 and that might be just a little too much tire (and might create rubbing problems). If I don't go with either Radial T/A then I'll settle fro some dope 225/50/15's that won't have the lettering I want, but will be fat and be a diameter that is close to stock. I will be dropping the ride on Ground Control coil overs. Probably 2" in rear and 2.25" front. It all depends on how big the tires are. Any suggestions would be great.
http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/images/catalog/tires/radial_ta_large.jpg

its_ikon
03-16-2004, 04:38 AM
damn, i never thought i would see a 15 x 8

ncscion
03-16-2004, 04:45 AM
i think those wizzles is the shizzle

jonbee
03-16-2004, 06:35 AM
absolute baller status :twisted: much better than another set of 18s or 19s in chrome ;)


good lookin'

ncscion
03-16-2004, 06:38 AM
those wheels have mo lip than a black girl

hahajoey
03-16-2004, 07:10 AM
+18 is just fine man..

oh man i can't wait to see.

Minsk99
03-16-2004, 07:32 AM
So what do y'all think on the tires?

ncscion
03-16-2004, 07:42 AM
did you get that pick of tires from summit racing? i don't really care for white letters, but hell its yours. do the damn thang balla

DJ_X_Trodinaire
03-16-2004, 01:01 PM
So what do y'all think on the tires?

you can paint over the letters on the tires

i ve seen it before...

projxB
03-16-2004, 01:12 PM
you must have gotten those from steve at tunershop, or colour tuning in germany. those wheels are really dope ive always loved those things on vws... i actually thought bout getting a set of those before i got my schmidt modern lines. as far as tires go i would go with the BFGs you have pictured up there, thats what i plan on goin with in 205s. my modern lines are also 15x8s... nice choice in wheels, its about time we get some more people goin with some heavy german wheels :) .. gj

edit.. also ATS makes another dope set of wheels called "Classic" but im sure youve heard of those.. they are also really dope looking but come in 13x8s

looked over the picture again, and what do ya know, theres a tunershop sticker on the box... damn all i got to say is, steve is coolest guy to buy from... great prices on wheels w/ free shipping, no tax and 3 day shipping from GERMANY!!1.. wait till i get my Borbets.

Thirty-Nine
03-16-2004, 03:23 PM
Oh man, I can't wait to see those mounted up. Those were the wheels I wanted on my xB (when and if I get one).

bBOXD
03-16-2004, 04:59 PM
Nice, I would say stretch some 195-55-15's on those badboys!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

projxB
03-16-2004, 05:14 PM
Nice, I would say stretch some 195-55-15's on those badboys!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

if these wheels were goin on a vw (what i normally see them on) i would say hell yeah stretch some 195/45 at that.. but on a scion, go with what you already have in mind with some big beefy tires. The reason i say this is, unless you plan on dropping it 3" or more its not gonna look too good with the stretched tires, also our cars have really big wheel wells and with small wheels like 15s and stretched tires it will just look funky. I have some 15x8s that i bought about 2 months ago and when i first got them i put one of them on to see how it would look, and it looked pretty awful, i have the goldlines that lower it 2" and it still looked like it needed to go down another 2". so until i either get some bigger tires or i fix my GTi and put them on it, they will be sitting on my bedroom floor. Either way you go good luck and props to you for some sick wheels.

Munch
03-16-2004, 05:14 PM
Wow :shock: now that's lip :twisted:

jonbee
03-16-2004, 05:51 PM
agreed brocks look awesome on dubs from old mk1s up to mk4s but on the scion you're gonna hafta go low. i am getting 16x9s but not until i get cuscos or some other coilovers that will allow me to go _down_ low :P

DJ_X_Trodinaire
03-18-2004, 04:50 PM
bump!

did you get it yet and install?? pics !! :lol:

bBted
03-18-2004, 04:58 PM
yeah post pics...wonder how they look with 2inch drop

Minsk99
03-18-2004, 06:23 PM
Nope. Not in yet. They said either Friday or Monday which probably means Tuesday or Wednesday. Anyway, I decided on the BF Goodrich Radial T/A in the 205/60/15 with the lettering. Yet to order the tires because I want to have them done at the same place as I have my Ground Control adjustable springs installed and I haven't found a reasonable quote yet. If anyone knows of a good tire place in the LA area that could also install springs/coil overs let me know!

CBSIMONSEZ
03-18-2004, 09:11 PM
Just passing along some info i found. Try the link below ....

http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/assets/pdf/radial_ta.pdf

I found that the 205 minimum rim width is 5.5"-7.5" And the 215 is 6"-7.5" To get a true fit on the 8" wheel, you would have to go with a 225/60R15, which measures 9" wide on a 6.5" wide wheel.

projxB
03-18-2004, 10:02 PM
http://volksforum.com/gallery/wm.php?pid=366&mode=normal


muhahah :shock:

Minsk99
03-19-2004, 12:42 AM
True is that CBSIMONSEZ. However, I'm thinking that the 225/60/15, which has a diameter of 25.6 inches would be way too big for the xB. Even the 215/60 has a diameter of 25.2 and might be too big as well. I guess I'm willing to deal with some stretch to be on the safe side. I'm definitely interested in what people think on this. Is 25.2 gonna be way too big? I'd love to go with 215 rather then 205 if I can swing it. Also, thanks for the pic. I'm just that much more impatient to get them on my ride NOW!

ncscion
03-20-2004, 06:23 AM
heres a cool looking bB with those wheels. looks tight. http://www3.ocn.ne.jp/~teruk/bB/pic/seiji5.jpg


http://www3.ocn.ne.jp/~teruk/bB/pic/seiji5.jpg

Minsk99
03-20-2004, 07:53 AM
Holly ____ dude. And here I thought I'd be the first with the white lettering and all. Oh well. I'm sure that there pretty much nothing that some kid in Japan hasn't already done to their bb. Anyway, thanks for the pic. Those lips look really fat. I wonder if they are the 8" or the 9". I hope its the 8" because I think they look dope. Can't wait to get them on!

macncheese
03-26-2004, 01:31 PM
You rocking these yet? I want to see pics :)

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Cheese

Minsk99
03-26-2004, 04:10 PM
It's amazing how fast the wrong rims came and how long its taking for them to send the right ones. Every time I hear a truck go by my place I run to the door like a total dip ____ thinking the rims are here. Anyways, to answer your question, I am not rockin um yet. I'm pretty relaxed about most things, but I WANT MY RIMS NOW :evil: . Hopefully I'll have pic by Monday or Tuesday.

scibrew
03-26-2004, 08:23 PM
one hell of a lip. looks sweet on in the box, cant wait to see it on the box. Nice choice.

ncscion
03-27-2004, 11:27 PM
It's amazing how fast the wrong rims came and how long its taking for them to send the right ones. Every time I hear a truck go by my place I run to the door like a total dip ____ thinking the rims are here. Anyways, to answer your question, I am not rockin um yet. I'm pretty relaxed about most things, but I WANT MY RIMS NOW :evil: . Hopefully I'll have pic by Monday or Tuesday.

i was the same way last year when i was buying hella ____ for my mustang and banshee. seemed like every UPS truck in town came buy my house and would never stop. then i missed them on their first two attempts.

Minsk99
03-30-2004, 08:25 PM
Finally! ATS Cup 15" x 8". 18 offset in rear. 23 offset in front (28 with 5mm spacers). Actually I'm using cheap ___ washers as spacers until I can find good spacers . Scion Life is sold out and H&R says inventory will not be restocked until June. Any suggestions would be appreciated (as in known places w/ inventory or other good brands for the xB). Running on BFGoodrich Radial T/A 205/60/15. No rubbing at all. My ride is filthy, so I will post moire pictures later in the xB section.

http://home.earthlink.net/~jefffeldman/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/103_0318.jpg

projxB
03-30-2004, 08:33 PM
if you dont mind me asking, how much were those tires.. I just got my new set of 15s yesterday and want to go with some beefy tires like that.

Thirty-Nine
03-30-2004, 08:59 PM
Finally! ATS Cup 15" x 8". 18 offset in rear. 23 offset in front (28 with 5mm spacers). Actually I'm using cheap ___ washers as spacers until I can find good spacers . Scion Life is sold out and H&R says inventory will not be restocked until June. Any suggestions would be appreciated (as in known places w/ inventory or other good brands for the xB). Running on BFGoodrich Radial T/A 205/60/15. No rubbing at all. My ride is filthy, so I will post moire pictures later in the xB section.


Okay - I'm in love! What suspension are you running again?

TheLeprechaun
03-30-2004, 09:32 PM
Finally! ATS Cup 15" x 8". 18 offset in rear. 23 offset in front (28 with 5mm spacers). Actually I'm using cheap ___ washers as spacers until I can find good spacers . Scion Life is sold out and H&R says inventory will not be restocked until June. Any suggestions would be appreciated (as in known places w/ inventory or other good brands for the xB). Running on BFGoodrich Radial T/A 205/60/15. No rubbing at all. My ride is filthy, so I will post moire pictures later in the xB section.

http://home.earthlink.net/~jefffeldman/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/103_0318.jpg

You said the wheels are 8" wide. Do you think you could get 225 section tires on there without rubbing suspension bits or hitting fenders?

DJ_X_Trodinaire
03-30-2004, 09:36 PM
very nice!

PICS PICS! :lol:

macncheese
03-30-2004, 09:59 PM
Looks great! Can't wait to see the rest.

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Cheese

HotBox
03-30-2004, 10:12 PM
now lets see the whole thin more pics more pics

Minsk99
03-31-2004, 12:28 AM
if you dont mind me asking, how much were those tires.

You can get them for around $60 - $70 online. I got mine for $70 with mounting and balancing.

What suspension are you running again?

I have the Ground Control adjustable springs. They call them a coilover, but you use what ever shocks/struts you want (I have stock on mine). They cost around $420 and can drop from 0.5" to 2.75". It took some time to figure out the adjustments, but now I'm very happy I can tinker with the drop. I dropped the rear an additional 1/8" today and it only took like 10 minutes.

You said the wheels are 8" wide. Do you think you could get 225 section tires on there without rubbing suspension bits or hitting fenders?

The 225's in this tire for a 15" are 225/60/15 which has a diameter of 25.6". I'm thinking that would be too much. The 215's has a diameter of 25.2. That's a lot of tire as well. I'm think that these wheels would work with a 225, but you would need a 225/50/15 or perhaps a 225/55/15. Unfortunately the Radial T/A doesn't come in either of those sizes. I'm not really sure about rubbing, but you would probably need a really low offset and the wheels would stick way out, but that could look cool.

jjambox
03-31-2004, 12:46 AM
options auto salon has the h&r spacerswww.optauto.com

its_ikon
03-31-2004, 01:23 AM
needs pics of the whole xB

Al-Truistic
03-31-2004, 01:49 AM
(---damn...a little late to this party!)

Minsk, those wheels are going to look just perfect on your ride! I like your sense of style mister, damn fine xB.

Did you decide on the tires yet? I thought the stock tires would look less substantial on 15/7's but the stretch isn't noticeable if any so, I think even if you went with the 205's you will get the desired effect.

Wouldn't the 215's get a little bouncey?

Whichever tire size you decide on I think the result will still be pretty.

Keep up the good work!

P.S. What drop did you decide on with your GroundControl's? The fit is great with the 15's IMHO! :wink:

Minsk99
03-31-2004, 02:12 AM
Did you decide on the tires yet?

Yup. That is a picture of my setup bro. All that stuff about the other tire sizes was an attempt at answering a question on what might fit. I went with the 205/60/15. The above pic is an actual picture on MY xB. Here is a really ____ty picture of the whole xB. Its really dirty and is sitting on an incline. I'll post better pics in the xB in the next day or two.

http://home.earthlink.net/~jefffeldman/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/103_0317.jpg

phatfront
03-31-2004, 02:29 AM
How's the ride?

TheLeprechaun
03-31-2004, 02:36 AM
I love the look of those and I bet the thing handles like it's glued to the road. It's great to see someone venture away from the standard 18" wheel. Personally, I'm getting sick of all these big wheels. They tend to weigh a lot and they effectively raise the final gearing of the car.

Do you know how much these wheels weigh? Does anyone know the stock wheel weight?

Where can you find these wheels to purchase? How much did you pay for them?

Why did you go with more offset in the front?

Al-Truistic
03-31-2004, 04:42 AM
Yo Minsk, clean or dirty your ride is sweet! Great job, man!

So, what's your drop? Do you think you needed to go so low because the wheels (those are some fat tires :wink: ) still didn't fill the wheel wells?

Where in L.A. are you? I'd love to see and hear your xB in person! I think the Borla single is for me if that "mature" sound is what I am thinking it sounds like.

Anyway, congratulations!

Minsk99
03-31-2004, 05:05 AM
Thanks Al. I'm not exactly sure of the drop on my Ground Control (relative to stock). Because my wheel diameter is almost an inch larger then stock, I am able to really fill in the gap and not be so close to the ground that I scuff my fender. Also, because I've got all that tire its kind a like having a second set of shocks. I have yet to bottom out on my drop. I've gone pot hole hunting in the Hollywood Hills and my Radials have done me right. I live very close to Silverlake (5 minutes away) so anytime you want to hear the Borla give me a PM.

ShadowMage
03-31-2004, 05:19 AM
............................ :shock: ...............Beautiful......simply beautiful! I love it, minsk!

ncscion
03-31-2004, 05:30 AM
Minsk99 yo shizit is butter man. that thang looks sicker than a mofo. glad to hear your having no problems with yo g.c. c/o nice ___ box money

jonbee
03-31-2004, 07:15 PM
looks nice and rugged man, good job! :twisted:

snoop32
04-01-2004, 06:42 PM
Minsk, looks great! you mind me asking how much that run you? wheels and tires? I think it looks so cool... mini-truckin'!

Minsk99
04-02-2004, 06:47 AM
I got the tires for $70 each including mounting and balancing. $270 per rim. The 8" are a limited edition that ATS made for Kerscher Tuning so they are expensive. If you are looking for a deep lip try hunting down the ATS Stern (also made for Kerscher) with a 15" x 9" in the rear and a 15" x 7" in front. That would look so Slammin! Also you wouldn't be bitin my ___. Just playin with ya. Anyway, Steve at Tunershop is a good place to check.

ATS Stern
http://www.supremepower.com/images/parts/wheels/kerscher/stern.jpg

hahajoey
04-02-2004, 05:29 PM
someone needs to grab those ATS rims...
put on a red midwing on the roof... put a red stripe going up..
and some yellow foglights up in front..


ALL of course on a black xb..

cuz a-team be rolling out!

snoop32
04-02-2004, 07:24 PM
Minsk,

Thanks for the info... but those prices are WAY out of my range! haha... hey, if you ever want to sell yours... I got first dibs :D

projxB
04-02-2004, 07:50 PM
15" x 9" in the rear and a 15" x 7" in front. http://www.supremepower.com/images/parts/wheels/kerscher/stern.jpg

go with 15x9s all the way around..staggard is for wusses :D :D , just put some spacers in the back so they will be even. :wink:

snoop32
04-02-2004, 08:21 PM
Hey Minsk,

Those wheels look pretty heavy... do you feel that your car is slower with those wheels on?

bBted
04-02-2004, 09:00 PM
looking good man!!! one of its own!!!
now u need to go lower :lol:

macncheese
04-04-2004, 09:14 PM
Would a 9" wide fit in the front? I've got my eye on a 16x9 ET15 but dont want to wuss out in the front if i dont have to. Stretched look isnt for me so I guess I'd need like a 245/45R16

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Cheese

projxB
04-06-2004, 04:32 PM
it depends on how low you wanna go.. i was running 16x9s all around for a while with a 2" drop with no major issues, but i had stretched tires, they were wrapped w/ 215/40s. the only issue i ever had was with the rear passenger side would rub if i had people in the back seat. even if it was only one person on the driver side back seat it would rub on the passenger side but not on the driver side.. i guess the passenger rear side sticks out more then the other. im not sure if that helps you any since you dont wanna stretch your tires... rolling your fenders would be your best bet... i ended up taking them off and plan on selling them.. i just wasnt low enuff to rock them and i have to many sets of wheels and need to clean out my garage so i can start tearing apart my GTi.

macncheese
04-07-2004, 04:10 PM
I wussed out and went 15 x 8, 18ET. I'll post pics in a few weeks when they get here from England.

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Cheese

projxB
04-07-2004, 04:16 PM
i definatly want to see pics.. you have any pics off the internet. what kind are they?

macncheese
04-07-2004, 05:41 PM
i definatly want to see pics.. you have any pics off the internet. what kind are they?

PMed you. I dont want to hijack this guy's thread. His wheels kick ___!
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Cheese

fr130
06-05-2004, 01:52 PM
Can't help it but to BUMP this up once more. :D

I'm at lost between the Brocks B2 (not a lot of lip) and the ATS Cup, Polished (mad lip). I'm concerned our brake/rotors/disc may be too wide to fit on the ATS. The ATS curves towards the lip. The B2's wont have that issue.

If the issue above is not even a concern, I would like to go with 15x7 ET of 28 on all fours. I dont want to stick out too much. Running on the stock Goodyear 185/60/15s. According to tirerack the tire can fit 5-7" rim width. Should this be okay?

Hopefully run on 195x60x15 BFG Traction T/A (excellent tire expecially in the rain and snow). I wont need any a spacers to clear the brakes right? Not into the flush look. I corner too hard anyway.

According to Tunershop ad's on VW Vortex, they include the hub rings and lugnuts. Is the hub rings mandatory?

German rims rock! :) I have to get rid of my BBS RX rims from my Gen4.5Camry. :shock:

Minsk99
06-05-2004, 06:07 PM
With the ATS you might need to grind down your front brake caliper a little bit. I did, just a little with 28 offfset and 5mm spacers in the front. You may not need to grind with a lower offset (like 18 offset with 5mm spacers), but you will stick way out beyond the fender. You won't be able to rock these with a high offset look. they just won't fit unless you take off way more of your calipers then I would dare. One other thing to keep in mind is that the 7" do not have as much of a lip as the 8". They still look great though.

fr130
06-06-2004, 12:13 AM
thanks for the heads up Minsk99. I guess I'll stick with my other choices.