I need some advice on some good set of performance brake pads. I feel the stock brakes feel little weak when it comes to braking and I wanted to change out the pads now since I only had the car for about a week. So I don't really have to turn the rotors since there are still pretty new. Also let me know what brand of pads you recommend and how dusty does it get.

Also from reading FAQ the tC has the same brakes system as the celica GTS. Is that correct? I just want to make sure if some companies might not have tC as listed yet. Thanks.

What about TRD pads? Ive never used them before personally but from what I hear some people say they are pretty good. Never been much of a brake guru sorry...

alot of people rave over Hawk pads.

I've never used them, but I've always been interested in EBC Green Stuff. http://www.ebcbrakes.com/automotive.html

Thanks guys for those suggestions but they don't make anything for the tC yet. I even check on TRD site and no luck there either.

Has anyone used any brake parts from celica GTS? I haven't found any detail specs to confirm the size of the rotors to compare to the tC. Thanks and any help on this is much appreciated.

Thanks guys for those suggestions but they don't make anything for the tC yet. I even check on TRD site and no luck there either.

I contacted mcgeorge a while ago and they said they have added them to their site...


www.mcgeorgeparts.com

As for hawks I hear they are very nice but very very dusty....

what about axxis ultimates

Axxis ultimate pads are a high bite high max operating temp street pad. BTW, it's a street pad so it is not capable of track conditions.

The Axxis Ultimate would provide a nice improvement. you also may want to consider some stainless steel lines for a firmer pedal.

Axxis ultimate pads are a high bite high max operating temp street pad. BTW, it's a street pad so it is not capable of track conditions.

The Axxis Ultimate would provide a nice improvement. you also may want to consider some stainless steel lines for a firmer pedal.

I used to have Axxis years ago on my integra and I liked them. I believe they were metal master one. Do the Ultimates get real dusty on the rims? I understand performance pads tend to get more dustier but too much becomes a pain to clean plus I will be getting new wheels too. Thanks for the help guys.

Axxis ultimate pads are a high bite high max operating temp street pad. BTW, it's a street pad so it is not capable of track conditions.

The Axxis Ultimate would provide a nice improvement. you also may want to consider some stainless steel lines for a firmer pedal.

I used to have Axxis years ago on my integra and I liked them. I believe they were metal master one. Do the Ultimates get real dusty on the rims? I understand performance pads tend to get more dustier but too much becomes a pain to clean plus I will be getting new wheels too. Thanks for the help guys.

Axxis Ultimates produce a fair amount of dust. People who clean their car once a week don't mind it, but many people do. The Axxis Ultimates are the highest performing pad from the Axxis lines. The Metal Master pads are in the middle and Deluxe Plus pads are their low dust low noise solution. Each pad fits it's own set of users depending on their priorities. Unfortunately there isn't a pad that does everything.

The Axxis Ultimate aren't for people who don't like dust. They are for people who have street performance as their first priority.

is there any truth to the myth that ceramic pads (like axxis ultimates) reduce the life of rotors faster than other pads types?

is there any truth to the myth that ceramic pads (like axxis ultimates) reduce the life of rotors faster than other pads types?

Axxis Ultimates are a Kevlar Ceramic pad, and each ceramic pad has it's own characteristics. Axxis Ultimates in particular probably wouldn't be considered a low dust pad by anyone. When looking for pads, try to focus the characterisitics of the pad such as the amount of bite, amount of dust, noise, temp range, etc. Do not focus on the materials from which they are made since those almost never really dictate how the pad will perform.

Rotor life is very dependant upon the driver. Rotor life usually lasts longer when the pad is rubbing against pad material from the bed in.
http://www.stoptech.com/whitepapers/bedincontents.htm

The bed-in is probably the most important part of having new pads. We can't stress enough the importance of a bed-in. It effects everything from performance or rotor life.

im confused, so thier are not upgrade pads for the tc? will the celica ones work? i too have noticed a bit of dust mines a day old though.......

if ur gonna switch pads switch rotors... and oh go with hawk pads hands down own all

why switch rotors? machining would make them like new again.

It's a shame that big brake kits are so gosh darn expensive. $1800?

It's a shame that big brake kits are so gosh darn expensive. $1800?

Next best thing is this... http://illusivemotorsports.com/store/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/49?osCsid=584684f8b2559fc4c080f34e89bcbc6a

why switch rotors? machining would make them like new again.

Well more then likely your new pads are gonna cause more heat or more friction... and if you machined your rotors you now only have so much life left... if you warped em they are through.

wheres a good place to buy stock brake pads online? i wore out all four and i only owned the tc for 3 months.

It's a shame that big brake kits are so gosh darn expensive. $1800?

We have our stage kits for people that don't want to spring for the big brake kit. Stage 1 consists of Axxis Ultimate pads, Stainless steel lines and Motul RBF 600 fluid for all four corners.

Stage 2 kit has All of stage 1 plus slotted or x-drilled rotors for all four corners. Watch out for those move out brackets. Those will provide more heat capacity but at the same time you will probably be throwing brake bias off and making stopping distances grow longer.

The Axxis Ultimate pads are an upgrade in terms of performance. Performance comes at the price of more dust.

We have our stage kits for people that don't want to spring for the big brake kit. Stage 1 consists of Axxis Ultimate pads, Stainless steel lines and Motul RBF 600 fluid for all four corners.

Whats the price on this?

For stage 1 and Stage 2 pricing, please contact one of our resellers.

Due to the rules of most forums, they do not allow posting of prices from non-sponsors. I'd like to be able to continue to post on this board to assist people in learning about brakes.

Stock = sucks $69
EBC = sucks
Hawk = very good $78 - $99
Endless = very good $99 - $599
TRD = have no clue

For stage 1 and Stage 2 pricing, please contact one of our resellers.

Due to the rules of most forums, they do not allow posting of prices from non-sponsors. I'd like to be able to continue to post on this board to assist people in learning about brakes.

can you post a list of your resellers?

For stage 1 and Stage 2 pricing, please contact one of our resellers.

Due to the rules of most forums, they do not allow posting of prices from non-sponsors. I'd like to be able to continue to post on this board to assist people in learning about brakes.

can you post a list of your resellers?

http://www.stoptech.com/customer_cars/Don't mind the URL. It goes to the right place.

Thanks for the info Stoptech, I wouldn't mind a little bit better feel on the brake pedal.

For stage 1 and Stage 2 pricing, please contact one of our resellers.

Due to the rules of most forums, they do not allow posting of prices from non-sponsors. I'd like to be able to continue to post on this board to assist people in learning about brakes.

can you post a list of your resellers?

http://www.stoptech.com/customer_cars/Don't mind the URL. It goes to the right place.

thanks! i'm trying to put together some brakes. hopefully u guys can help answer some of my questions. i'd like to get the bbk and also rear rotors.

EBC GreenStuff pads are great if no dust is your primary goal, but not for increased stopping distances.

Stay away from anything Carbon or Ceramic unless it is a track only car...they take too much heat to be effective for daily driving and wear rotors prematurely.

Hawk pads are awesome. The best brake upgrade you can do to your car—I don't care what kind of car you have.

If you consider adding a "Big Brake Kit," remember you are adding unsprung weight and that is not good for handling dynamics or braking performance—Unless: you do it right and spend big money on your big brakes—And, yes, Stoptech does make excellent kits.

http://www.importrp.com
:)

here's another brake link from a while back
*edit: wrong link, to tired to search for it again :yawn:

I wore out my stock pads on the track this past weekend. My friend's xA broke and so the two of us were driving my car all day. We had to cut our runs short because the front pads started pouring out smoke. I have heard great things about Hawk pads from fellow racers and was thinking of getting a set. The tC is not listed on Hawk's website. TireRack sells Hawk pads for tC's, but only for the front. Does anyone know where / if I can find a four corner set of Hawk pads for the tC?

Also, any recommendations for a brand of Brake Fluid with a higher boiling point?

pm heartbreaker about the pads. he got a pair of Hawks for track day.

I wore out my stock pads on the track this past weekend. My friend's xA broke and so the two of us were driving my car all day. We had to cut our runs short because the front pads started pouring out smoke. I have heard great things about Hawk pads from fellow racers and was thinking of getting a set. The tC is not listed on Hawk's website. TireRack sells Hawk pads for tC's, but only for the front. Does anyone know where / if I can find a four corner set of Hawk pads for the tC?

Also, any recommendations for a brand of Brake Fluid with a higher boiling point?

I'll answer the easy question first. Use Motul RBF 600 if you will be heading out to the track. It has a much higher boiling point.

Now for the tougher questions. Stock pads are not adequate for the track. They were never intended to endure those types of conditions. When heading out the track, it is an entirely different ballgame. The temperatures that the brakes reach exceed the capabilities of street pads. The problem is that there isn't a pad that is capable of being optimal on the street and track. The solution is to switch out pads the day before a track event like you would with your wheels and tires. Race pads aren't optimal to run on the street because they have to be warm in order to work well. At cold temperatures the pads are super abrasive and will wear down your rotor really fast.

What you don't want to do is go to the track with some street pads and not be able to drive all out. Why go to the track and hold back? Track events are there for the purpose of driving hard. You want your brakes to be there all day long and not have to worry about it.

We carry and distribute a full line street and race pads. Some street pads are those like Axxis Ultimates, Hawk HPS or Hawk HP+. Some people use those on the track, but those are suseptible to fade and only may work on the lighter cars. Track pads would be something like Hawk HT-10, and Hawk Blue, etc. Street pads will work for the rear since the high temps are only generated on the front.

Are metal master axxis out yet for the tc? I don't know if I want to go with ultimates since my car is more for daily driving. MM pads will probably give me the right proformance that I'm looking for.

Both Ultimates and Metal Master are street pads. The metal master one will shed a little less dust, but also have a little less performance. Most people put up with the dust and love the performance of the Axxis Ultimates.

63-223-0817 Axxis Ultimate Front
63-223-0835 Axxis Ultimate rear

63-203-0817 Axxis Metal Master Front
63-203-0835 Axxis Metal Master rear

Please contact your StopTech dealer for pricing

Here's a stupid newbie question:
What about the OPPOSITE application?
Most people are looking for performanace upgrade for track...what about the daily commute application? What should be the factors that one should look for when looking for new pads for daily driving?

Here's a stupid newbie question:
What about the OPPOSITE application?
Most people are looking for performanace upgrade for track...what about the daily commute application? What should be the factors that one should look for when looking for new pads for daily driving?

You can upgrade for street purposes. The pads that I listed are for street as well although they are more for performance street.

BTW, your question is not a stupid newbie question but a actually very valid one.

The factors that you are looking for depend on what you want out of your brakes. If you want performance, try the pads that are above. If you want track pads, I have a whole other list for you. If you are looking for low dust and low noise pads, you may want to check out these pads I'm about to list here. Essentially, look for the qualities of pads such as how much dust do they output, level of noise, bite, and temp range. The chemicals and materials that are used in pads rarely accurately tell what the pads will do.

63-213-0817 Axxis Deluxe Plus(D+) Front
63-213-0835 Axxis Deluxe Plus(D+) Rear

These pads are also less expensive than Metal master or ultimates

alright, there hasn't been a post in more than 2yrs...

anyone else have some good reviews on brake pads lately?

so far i've found these two sites that have good deals:

http://www.dezod.com/cat_brake_pads2.cfm

http://www.jscspeed.com/tc/brakes.htm