View Full Version : New 320cc injectors on the way.


matchbox
07-28-2005, 06:45 PM
I just ordered some larger injectors. They are 320cc where as the stock are only 200cc about 60% over stock. I will be able to dial down the flow at idle with my Cam-Con. I may get a Perfect Power SMT-6 piggy back fuel management computer to control the injectors a little more precicely. I also ordered the two factory engine belts from Power Enterprise.

Simplyscion
07-28-2005, 07:14 PM
You getting any belt slippage??

matchbox
07-28-2005, 07:48 PM
Nope took care of that. Just getting the two other belts from PE cause I can get them cheap.

dgHotLava
07-28-2005, 08:15 PM
sweet 8)

07-28-2005, 08:40 PM
dam, dude!! Gonna make the 30mpg car into a 14! :D Post up some reviews after its installed.

lastlookcustoms
07-28-2005, 08:43 PM
I need the stupid fuel system components (fuel regulator and crap) from PE...

I am still waiting on the 410cc injectors from PE. They are so damn slow waiting for parts from Japan.

dgHotLava
07-28-2005, 08:44 PM
the supercharger took care of that 30+mpg...

i'm down to 21-22ish. (running at 4k rpm all day)

squirrel
07-28-2005, 08:47 PM
Nice 320cc injectors!

Dave, sounds like you got a condition called lead foot!

Oh, and who do I give Thanks for stocking up the beer in the hide out?

07-28-2005, 08:48 PM
the supercharger took care of that 30+mpg...

i'm down to 21-22ish. (running at 4k rpm all day)

:shock: :shock: Dang thats a lot of gas for everyday driving!

matchbox
07-28-2005, 08:49 PM
I got 28mpg on my last trip up to the mountain place. That was before the hi-flow cat and Cam-Con. Now injectors and piggyback fuel systm oh my.

Helps that I live 6/10th of a mile from work. :P

Hey Stylis where ya been. Thanks for the exhaust help. My hi-flow cat bumped me up 17hp along with the Cam-Con.

Oh I'm Dave too. :eyebrow:

07-28-2005, 08:53 PM
I got 28mpg on my last trip up to the mountain place. That was before the hi-flow cat and Cam-Con. Now injectors and piggyback fuel systm oh my.

Helps that I live 6/10th of a mile from work. :P

Hey Stylis where ya been. Thanks for the exhaust tips. My hi-flow cat bumped me up 17hp along with the Cam-Con.

Sweet! Glad it helped you out. :D Been wanderinf the streets of norcal gettin mini meets together for the locals. :) Too bad your not out here, you would love the meets. Good to hear that your MPG hasn't gone down too much. Running 87 or 91octane?

matchbox
07-28-2005, 08:54 PM
Whats 87 haven't seen that stuff in a while. :relief:

Stylis got my hi-flo cat custom welded up with another bung for $125. Gotta love the pricing sytem out here.

07-28-2005, 08:57 PM
My bad! I meant 108. :D Dude, so the cam con will be able to adjust for the bigger injectors? Thats sweet! Not worried about running too rich?

squirrel
07-28-2005, 09:06 PM
Dave, I got some 360cc(I think) injectors for about half the price of the Toyota 2ZZ ones. The only problem, the head needs to be machined a tad. Maybe I'll have to pick up the 2ZZ ones and try those also. I know they work because I know two other peeps running them w/ no problems.

matchbox
07-28-2005, 09:10 PM
Half the price of $147 shipped? You have to know where to look. The guy I got them from has been doing injectors for a long time. He flows and matches them. Great to deal with. Here is his number 1-866-577-3835 tell him Dave from NC sent you. He is in Kansas.

As far as 2ZZ injectors there are three sizes the smallest 220cc are yellow and the gray 320cc like the ones I got. Head over to the NewCelica.org forum. Learned a ton on injectors and piggyback fuel systems.

All of these injectors are interchangable. The highest flow comes from the RAV4. This was posted from a Toyota tech on the NewCelica.org forum.

Celica (00-02) - 2.7-3.3 cu in. per 15 sec
N/A Supra(93-98 )- 3.7-4.5 cu in. per 15 sec
MR2 Turbo- 5.8-7.3 cu in per 15 sec
Turbo Supra(93-98 ) 7.1- 8.4 cu in per 15 sec
Solara V6- 3.4-4.5cu in per 15 sec
Rav4 (01-current) 3.6-4.5 cu in per 15 sec

squirrel
07-28-2005, 09:14 PM
Yeah, they were about $75 a piece. I was given the hook up for them. Man, I wish I was on the east coast right now.

I keep telling Omar and Dave that. Then I can pick Stuart's, Vito's and your brains for a while and throw some 411 back and forth.

I can get Toyota OEM for 40 back of retail.

squirrel
07-28-2005, 09:14 PM
Plus a good friend of mine up here is well versed on FI applications, actually two good friends.

07-28-2005, 09:18 PM
can't wait to wrench on my car later, I'll send you a pm later matchbox. :D

squirrel
07-28-2005, 09:22 PM
Dave,

Thanks for that info. I didn't know about the Rav4 injectors, just about the gray 2ZZ ones.

squirrel
07-28-2005, 09:40 PM
I guess it should be noted that all of this talk for injectors are for those running FI.

Simplyscion
07-28-2005, 10:31 PM
I guess it should be noted that all of this talk for injectors are for those running FI.

Yea...for all of you guys that are reading this, dont expect any gains from buying a rail and injectors if your not running f/i...all your gonna get is a nice hole in your wallet :rofl: :rofl:
Thanks for pointing that out Brad before we had an epidemic :rofl: :relief:

squirrel
07-28-2005, 10:37 PM
Vito, you know someone would try it and then start posting they had no gains on their NA Scion, and that we were blowing smoke all this time!

dgHotLava
07-28-2005, 10:41 PM
Nice 320cc injectors!

Dave, sounds like you got a condition called lead foot!

Oh, and who do I give Thanks for stocking up the beer in the hide out?
yeah, i got the lead foot...
i keep driving like i am still driving my cruiser...(or my bike 900rr)
i've got over 10k of milage documented at 22mpg...(95% at +80mph..)
just a few weeks ago i got a new girlfriend and drive on different roads now....
the last three tanks i got 27, 28, 27mpg...(50-60mph driving)

and you can thank Omar. he decided to have a party for the nice write up he got.

Simplyscion
07-28-2005, 10:41 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

dgHotLava
07-28-2005, 10:48 PM
Half the price of $147 shipped? You have to know where to look. The guy I got them from has been doing injectors for a long time. He flows and matches them. Great to deal with. Here is his number 1-866-577-3835 tell him Dave from NC sent you. He is in Kansas.

As far as 2ZZ injectors there are three sizes the smallest 220cc are yellow and the gray 320cc like the ones I got. Head over to the NewCelica.org forum. Learned a ton on injectors and piggyback fuel systems.

All of these injectors are interchangable. The highest flow comes from the RAV4. This was posted from a Toyota tech on the NewCelica.org forum.

Celica (00-02) - 2.7-3.3 cu in. per 15 sec
N/A Supra(93-98 )- 3.7-4.5 cu in. per 15 sec
MR2 Turbo- 5.8-7.3 cu in per 15 sec
Turbo Supra(93-98 ) 7.1- 8.4 cu in per 15 sec
Solara V6- 3.4-4.5cu in per 15 sec
Rav4 (01-current) 3.6-4.5 cu in per 15 sec

good info.
good site too.

thanks.

Simplyscion
07-28-2005, 11:05 PM
when i first started looking for my injectors I went to tcforums.com (Team Celica)...unfortunately I wasnt able to find them from anyone and it seemed like nobody was throwing turbos on their setups.

lastlookcustoms
07-29-2005, 01:34 AM
I am going to run the 410cc ones from Power Enterprise that they sell for the Miatas. Same injectors as ours and should be a drop in replacement.....

Simplyscion
07-29-2005, 02:20 AM
I am going to run the 410cc ones from Power Enterprise that they sell for the Miatas. Same injectors as ours and should be a drop in replacement.....
Cant wait to see the outcome...hopefully we will get through this dam in tank reg sooner or later.

matchbox
07-29-2005, 02:42 AM
The $147 is for a set of 4 shipped. 320cc $35 each and $7 shipping. :lalala:

Simplyscion
07-29-2005, 04:07 AM
The $147 is for a set of 4 shipped. 320cc $35 each and $7 shipping. :lalala:
:doh: hook a brother up...I would buy em just to have as a spare set.

dante_b
07-29-2005, 04:39 AM
hey guys i know were talking about f/i on xbs but since its the same engine can i apply all this info that you guys are dishing out on my xa? i like reading your posts because i learn all more about modding the scions the xa forum. thanks

dgHotLava
07-29-2005, 10:24 AM
^^^^ yes.
it is the same motor (that the reason this forum is Power Hungry (xA/xB)) and you can apply the knowledge to the xA.
just remember that we are talking about forced induction setups.

if you do not have a turbo or supercharger, this info will not help you get any more performance.

squirrel
07-29-2005, 03:55 PM
The $147 is for a set of 4 shipped. 320cc $35 each and $7 shipping. :lalala:

:shock: !?!

:bow:

squirrel
07-29-2005, 03:56 PM
hey guys i know were talking about f/i on xbs but since its the same engine can i apply all this info that you guys are dishing out on my xa? i like reading your posts because i learn all more about modding the scions the xa forum. thanks

If you have any type of FI on your xA this info will be of great help as the engines are the same.

Xbilly
01-12-2006, 04:17 PM
$147?

elusivedragon
01-12-2006, 05:09 PM
glad you guys did mention this is for f/i, not trying to sound all negative or anything cause im not but...this is the NA subforum lol

it did confuse me i will be newbish enough to confess it!

i still like reading it however, im learning things all the time now that im into cars and I enjoy every shred of info

dgHotLava
01-16-2006, 01:41 PM
glad you guys did mention this is for f/i, not trying to sound all negative or anything cause im not but...this is the NA subforum lol

it did confuse me i will be newbish enough to confess it!

i still like reading it however, im learning things all the time now that im into cars and I enjoy every shred of info

it is under the NA forum because of the recent reorg in forums...
it used to be just power hungry....remember????


anyways, moved...