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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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We at Dezod are still working daily on the Dezod turbo kit. I do not want this topic to make anyone think we're slacking on the kits to develop this as well. We are at maximum capacity for the development of the turbo kit and other companies are currently the only thing keeping us from finishing the testing.

Now the good stuff. As you know, no one makes high performance cams for the tC yet. There aren't any cam regrinds as well, unless you plan on going custom.

Dezod is working with Crower to develop new intake and exhaust cams from the ground up for the tC. We'll be blueprinting custom cams and crower will be making them for us. As most people know, we have a DOHC engine. So there's two cams to remake. We'll be offering the intake and exhaust cams seperately, and a package price for both together.

There will be only 1 cam grind available for the time being, possibly full race cams later but that will not be streetable and a stand-alone will be neccessary (or the Emanage Ultimate). If we are to offer these cams who will honestly want to buy one?

The only reason why we ask is because we can not have crower go through with the cams, and have no one that want's to buy. Most of our DOHC cams already sell for 370-600 anyway so it won't be too expensive. Who wants one when they're out? Feel free to list which cam or cams you want, and I'll add you to a possible buyer list. No money is required for now, so don't feel obligated.

Any other questions feel free to ask. Thanks for your support.

*UPDATED - possible/definate Cam buyer list*
1. Dachmo
2. wOoOzZy
3. f1nch
4. hahaitzskippy
5. _Keith_
6. The_Guff
7. tcsciontist
8. GoSwim
9. matty-tC
10. OuterHeaven
11. Hayashi
12. PghtC
13. ScottsdaleTC
14. Ryhian
Old Jul 29, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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What are the goals of these cams? How do they hope to affect the powerband? E.g., shift it, up-top gain, progressive increase, etc? How much testing will be done on the intake cams with various situations where the ECU will alter the cam angle affecting output? How they are expected to affect the engine's idle in various conditions?
Old Jul 29, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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Cams would be awesome...I would consider buying them if they produced good gains.
Old Jul 29, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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I could say roughly 15 to as much as about 50WHP gain on the same boost level as with the stock cam. It all depends on the amount of boost you're running, the turbo size, and your intake and exhaust components. It will ALWAYS add at least 10-15hp with a mere 6 or 7 psi. That's safe power mind you.
Old Jul 29, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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Oh...I thought these were NA cams... I'm still torn between NA and FI.... I'm waiting to see what your kit can do.....
Old Jul 29, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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You make power very few ways with NA: Rev, Displacement, or High Compression. Since the first two are out, you better get you some new domed pistons if you wanna have an NA beast.
Old Jul 29, 2005 | 07:00 PM
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i'd be more interested in a longblock than just cams... heads, intake manifold, valve train, rods, pistons, cams, all in 1 crate.
Old Jul 29, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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I would love to buy some performance cams after I buy the Dezod kit. The only bane on me is money. I'd probably have to wait untill I have a break from school so I can work. But if I manage to get the money then I'd definetly jump on those cams. This is all assuming that the specs are right, but you guys seem to know what you're doing. I'm guessing the cams will compliment your kit nicely?
Old Jul 29, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo2liter
You make power very few ways with NA: Rev, Displacement, or High Compression. Since the first two are out, you better get you some new domed pistons if you wanna have an NA beast.
I don’t want a beast, I just want a kitty cat with a nice pur. ^_^ Puuuuuuur....

That is, until a little the catnip is added *coughnitrouscough*. Then I want a roar. ROOAAAR! But preferable not a Rooooaaaar... BOOOOM!. Just a roar, lol.

Back to the topic at hand, when you say boasted, are you including nitrous as well? Will these be N/A friendly (no power loss) and show some nice gains when on the bottle, or will the cams not be for liquid F/I?
Old Jul 29, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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if you put in cam's for nitrous you're kinda... uh... well.. silly
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Originally Posted by matty-tC
if you put in cam's for nitrous you're kinda... uh... well.. silly
Like any other mod, cam timing has an effect on nitrous as well. Hell, cam timing has an effect on an unmodded N/A engine. Nitrous, like S/Cs, and T/Cs has cam timing that it works best with. From my understanding, both S/Cs and nitrous prefer similar Cam timing, close to what works beset w/ N/A, iirc, but I need to do a lot more research on that before saying much more. Regardless, how exactly is it silly?
Old Jul 29, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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you can put me down for some ....3-600$ would be reasonable...
Old Jul 29, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by matty-tC
if you put in cam's for nitrous you're kinda... uh... well.. silly
Why is that silly?

Would you mind explaining to me the effects of cams, specifically, ramp rates, overlap and lift on a stock vs. aftermarket cam while using nitrous or turbo?
Old Jul 29, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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i would be very interested in cams.

primarily for the reason of strong cams to handle on heavy pressure and extreme revving.

i want to get new internals so i can be high revving all day long.


im into the life and longivity of my engine. mostly NA power.


and if the work is guranteed such as.

guranteed HP, (at least 15), the cams are way stronger than the stock ones, include valve retainers and rods.

im so in, i can even throw in a deposit.
Old Jul 29, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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rods!!! pistons and cams for sure....

For those of us that wanna go all out you know!
Old Jul 29, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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Seriously... offer some internals for some one other than Honda.
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Originally Posted by turbo2liter
Originally Posted by matty-tC
if you put in cam's for nitrous you're kinda... uh... well.. silly
Why is that silly?

Would you mind explaining to me the effects of cams, specifically, ramp rates, overlap and lift on a stock vs. aftermarket cam while using nitrous or turbo?
you must just follow me around to try to start something..

i think it's not very smart to install cam's setup for nitrous when you're only using the nitrous every once and a while. for all out racing i would agree but i doubt that's what we're talking about... turbo and sc make sense though
Old Jul 29, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Thrawn
Originally Posted by matty-tC
if you put in cam's for nitrous you're kinda... uh... well.. silly
Like any other mod, cam timing has an effect on nitrous as well. Hell, cam timing has an effect on an unmodded N/A engine. Nitrous, like S/Cs, and T/Cs has cam timing that it works best with. From my understanding, both S/Cs and nitrous prefer similar Cam timing, close to what works beset w/ N/A, iirc, but I need to do a lot more research on that before saying much more. Regardless, how exactly is it silly?
I understand this but if you're using a form of FI that's barely ever actually used on the car, you're affect the other 90% of the time you're driving. If you're building a racecar it's different but for a street car I would get FI specific cams when you're all motor the majority of the time.
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Originally Posted by _Keith_
rods!!! pistons and cams for sure....

For those of us that wanna go all out you know!
I agree this would be great for our cars. we already have the drivetrain stuff (ACT, quaife, etc.)
Old Jul 29, 2005 | 11:39 PM
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Are valve spring going to be offered as well? I'm down if they're reliable, and don't make rough changes (idle,noise,vibraton). Most of us still want a daily driver.



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