should i race him? specs are 3525 lbs / 168 hp
he's talking trash its his moms car he thinks it'll beat my 5sp xB!

should i race? i figure the 1200 extra pounds would slow him down

suggestions?

Do it for fun!

Do the math and you will see that you are at a disadvantage power-wise even with his extra tonage. You have about 1.5 extra LBS/hp than he does. Maybe those close gear ratios on your xB will help (not liekly).

If it is a 2004 model, his actual curb weight is 3, 448 lbs as well. The 3,590 lbs is for the T5 model with 247 hp... thats a no brainer there.

My bets on the Volvo. Torque/lbs beats you handily- 170 lb/feet = audios Scion (unless he misses a shift).

It'll be close though, so you might pull through.

Who cares, people who argue over whether their stock econobox is faster than other cars are dumb.

Go to a race track and get yourself p0wn3d.

Do you know the 0-60 on that Volvo? If it’s fast than 9 sec. Forget about it.

Unless your talkin' pinkslips, go for it.

The beauty of the xB is the 108HP and $15,000 price tag. If you beat him, it shuts him up. If he beats you, you play it off as "It took 60 extra horses and how many extra $1000s to beat this little 4-banger box? " :roll:

My guess is.......he'd have to be an idiot driver to lose.

Sure.....it's a heavier car.......but those base 5cyl engines aren't a joke. And if you get a turbo.......move over grandma!

My mom has a 940 turbo. It's only a 4 cyl........but its roughly the same HP as the NA 5 cyl engine.

It will just blow away any stock xB out there......I'm sure of it. And probably any modded xB that isn't on forced induction or nitrous. But.......its probably not fair to compare a turbo 2.3L car to an NA 1.5L.

And let me tell you........the things that that 940 engine are capable of with some work.......good God.......you'd poo yourself. It's a 1994 model. If you're a Volvo enthusiast who likes the b230ft engine (ME)........THAT or the 95 is the year to have. Beefy rods.

With about $3000-4000 work in the right areas........you can be pushing 350 or more HP.

If my mom ever tries to sell that car........I'm gonna throw something big and heavy at her. That car is stayin in the family dammit...........so I can have an awesome project platform when I've got the money and time.

KiL

Why not. And don't do it for fun, do it because he needs to be punished, hate your opponent, maybe even through out some random comments about you wanting to eat his heart, and his children, word to allah...
If he's in an automatic I think you have a very good chance. If his car is running bad you have a great chance. If he cant drive well you have him. And if you do some course with a couple curves, you gonna spank him.

his is the base model v70, the 168 hp model, it is an auto,


i'll race him and if he wins, i just tell him that what can you expect from 108 ponies?

sorry about the double post, but i can always rely on (if i lose) the fact that my car is 150% more awesome than his moms :)

My bro-in-law wanted me to get a used V70 instead of the XB. He's a top mechanic at Volvo and a speed freak. Race for fun.

He told me that you can get the V70's to run about 300 HP all day with some fine tuning.

His car? An '89 volvo 740 Turbo Eurowagon with so many performance mods it's sick. 20 lbs boost (had it at 30 lbs but bent a rod) and about 260-280 HP to the wheels (butt-ometer not dynometer). Automatic. People always freak out when a 4 cyl. wagon dusts them.

sorry for the tangent :P

should i race him? specs are 3525 lbs / 168 hp
he's talking trash its his moms car he thinks it'll beat my 5sp xB!

should i race? i figure the 1200 extra pounds would slow him down

suggestions?

Don't listen to anyone else, I've had luck with my 5spd. Apparently these other people got bad cars, or just can't drive. I bet you can take him. I've taken several cars, and my 0-60 is lower than most I've seen listed on the site... stock.

But, it's all in good fun... you should be able to annihilate that slushbox hefty.

Good Luck.

Do it for fun!

Do the math and you will see that you are at a disadvantage power-wise even with his extra tonage. You have about 1.5 extra LBS/hp than he does. Maybe those close gear ratios on your xB will help (not liekly).

If it is a 2004 model, his actual curb weight is 3, 448 lbs as well. The 3,590 lbs is for the T5 model with 247 hp... thats a no brainer there.

My bets on the Volvo. Torque/lbs beats you handily- 170 lb/feet = audios Scion (unless he misses a shift).

It'll be close though, so you might pull through.

Why does 170lb/ft make a difference? The power/weight ratio still applies there too... more weight for that 170lb/ft to carry...

Go get him killer !!!

http://www.kontaktrunde.de/boxer-portraits/tyson2.jpg

Do the math and he has more lbs/ft relative to weight of the car than a scion as well, (delivering proportinally more toruqe at lower rpm, mind you). Also, measureing torque/weight does not necessarilly yield the same results as HP/weight, as one is a fundamental measurement of work- longitudinal movement, while the other is of twisting force. (That's why you always see hp/lbs considered so closely in racing....)

If that v70 is auto like you said Scion RI, I think you may just beat him.

Do it for fun!

Do the math and you will see that you are at a disadvantage power-wise even with his extra tonage. You have about 1.5 extra LBS/hp than he does. Maybe those close gear ratios on your xB will help (not liekly).

If it is a 2004 model, his actual curb weight is 3, 448 lbs as well. The 3,590 lbs is for the T5 model with 247 hp... thats a no brainer there.

My bets on the Volvo. Torque/lbs beats you handily- 170 lb/feet = audios Scion (unless he misses a shift).

It'll be close though, so you might pull through.

Yeah same here i think that it would be cool

Who cares, people who argue over whether their stock econobox is faster than other cars are dumb.

Go to a race track and get yourself p0wn3d.

yeah I agree, your xb is slow... So is mine. Wanna race? buy a sportscar.

why not have the best of both worlds?! race other slow cars! if its close then it may as well be going fast.... plus, you get all the bonus style with the car too :wink:

but u gotta race ugly pos'-those cars are just slow- your better off staying in 2nd gear around 20mph all the time... cruisin with the hottest lookin car on the streets than beatin the isht out of it and gettin to say you beat your friends moms mini-van :?

its all good though- do you and have fun, thats what its all about. :idea:

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"Im Mike Tython. I wanna eathchyore chilthren" :twisted:

I also own an S40 volvo....similar specs...it will kill your xb...not by a WHOLE lot...but you aint go no chance. :twisted:

I also own an S40 volvo....similar specs...it will kill your xb...not by a WHOLE lot...but you aint go no chance. :twisted:

Care to drive to NY and find out otherwise? My stock xB will anihillate that sad piece of volvo.

I've got an 03 V40, and even with the additional weight over the S40, I'd be happy to cream you. Of course I'd have to get back to NY from CO first. My wife drives the wagon now, but I pop into it every now and then just to remember what it feels like when that turbo kicks in.

I'll give you the first 10 feet, but by 2500 rpms I'm off. If I ever get off my lazy ___ and tweak the waste gate and chip it, it will be truly impressive. I correspond with a guy over in Europe whose been running his 02 S40 near 270hp, there are some great stories of him dusting Z4s.

Of course, the minute you thrown in a turn my crappy Mitsu-based chasis and typical numb Volvo steering will be my undoing. But don't underestimate the Swedes, they've been making some outstanding engines for a very long time.

I've got an 03 V40, and even with the additional weight over the S40, I'd be happy to cream you. Of course I'd have to get back to NY from CO first. My wife drives the wagon now, but I pop into it every now and then just to remember what it feels like when that turbo kicks in.

I'll give you the first 10 feet, but by 2500 rpms I'm off. If I ever get off my lazy ___ and tweak the waste gate and chip it, it will be truly impressive. I correspond with a guy over in Europe whose been running his 02 S40 near 270hp, there are some great stories of him dusting Z4s.

Of course, the minute you thrown in a turn my crappy Mitsu-based chasis and typical numb Volvo steering will be my undoing. But don't underestimate the Swedes, they've been making some outstanding engines for a very long time.

Never said anything about those turbo'ed Volvo's, they rip. We're talking about a naturally aspirated volvo with 168hp, an auto, and an extra 1200-1300lbs over the xB.

What's the 0-60 on the N/A volvo in question?

http://www.edmunds.com/used/2003/volvo/v70/100194333/specs.html?tid=edmunds.u.prices.leftsidenav..6.Volvo*

Found this for a 1999 V70 Automatic (n/a) w/ Filtercharger 0-60: 9.2 s

Found 0-60 for the V70 5speed Turbo 197hp version @ 8.75s

Lol, I must say, I like the specs on the V70 R, though 0-60 in 6.06 :shock:

And for you that mentioned the 940 wagon, here you go as well..

http://www.histomobile.com/1/Volvo/1990/940_break.htm?lan=2

Fastest 940 did 0-60 in 9.1s

Hey jerk daniels. why would i drive to wherever you are, when I AM THE ONE who owns BOTH an xb AND a volvo s40.

The s40 is a 1.9 turbo, and will kill all Scions, I KNOW this.

jdaniels: The S40 is turboed. The 03 and 04 are 1.9s with a Mitsu turbo on them (in Europe they're classified as 2.0, but US measurements are slightly differnent) that put out 170hp.

I agree though, a normally aspirated V70 won't be doing much. I don't know why people would get the non-turbo version of that or the S60.

Hey jerk daniels. why would i drive to wherever you are, when I AM THE ONE who owns BOTH an xb AND a volvo s40.

The s40 is a 1.9 turbo, and will kill all Scions, I KNOW this.

What the hell do you keep talking about turbos for? No one asked about the turbo'ed version.

Lets compare goats to oranges.

You asked about it when you challenged arinvolvo to a race in his S40 -- they only come with turbos. I realize the difference, I'm not sure you do.

I should have mentioned it was turbo'd to begin with...I thought everyone new they all were.

You asked about it when you challenged arinvolvo to a race in his S40 -- they only come with turbos. I realize the difference, I'm not sure you do.

He said they have similar specs, thats not even close. Not my fault I hate swedish cars, lol.

Now that hurts! No hard feelings I hope, I should have known not everyone knew. Typical arrogant Swedich car driver.

I would. It would be really embarrassing for him if you won. But not so embarrassing for you if you didn't b/c no one would really expect you to. and if he brags about it peeps will just say..."oh whoopy! So you beat a car with 108 hp!" So either way you win :lol:

I might race, because your a winner anyways, cause if he is racing his moms car then he is a loser. Thats like the kids that drive there parents bimmers and stuff around here and think they are hot ____, if its noit your car then bother to race ro challange it or anyhting!

is the volvo his moms car? haha if it is then his MOM's car is faster. the cars not even his.

His car is probably a pinto

heh, i know that like 80 percent of all other cars would show the xB up .... speedwise

if i had wanted a rocket, i would have bought something that was,... oh,.... not SLOW!



yeah ...

You asked about it when you challenged arinvolvo to a race in his S40 -- they only come with turbos. I realize the difference, I'm not sure you do.

He said they have similar specs, thats not even close. Not my fault I hate swedish cars, lol.

That's similar HP specs to the NA V70. The NA V70 makes 168hp from is naturally aspirated 5 cyl. The S40 makes 168hp from its turbo 4cyl.

My Mom's 940 makes 168 from its turbo 4 cyl.........and the S40 is still faster.

Arin and I know Volvos......and Scions. The Volvos win guys.......sorry.

Now that I took my gigantic 3/4" MDF subwoofer box out of my NA 2.3L 240 Volvo.......I'd put a wager that it would give a stock Scion a run for its money, if not win. I've got some mods on it though (performance cam and adjustable gear, k&n cone.......nothing major).

KiL

Adam, your 240 will kill an xb...you killed me in it when you still had all of the crap in the back...

AND on top of that, now that the stockers are back on it, it is also lighter, and may have a smaller wheel diameter...which equals better acceleration.

and the 240 engine produces 112 hp stock?? IIRC