*sigh* often imitated...
never duplicated..
http://www.hammertam.com/haha/longo/xbmeet9.jpg

sucks.. first people rock fake eurolines. now they rock
fake meisters.. i guess thats just like swap meet louie
and versachi jeans...

now theres a group by for eveyrone! :doh:

oh well thats the way the tuner market and car market is in general. i have no problem that people have fakes or copies. if i know i have the original stuff, then i feel good about it that they like it so much they wanted to copy. i frankly dont care if they want to copy.

i do it for myself and not for what i want other people to think. i dont care if they think i have fakes or not. i think the imitation wheel bashing is really exaggerrated *im not aiming this at you joey* and should really be looked on as a good thing. if people want a nice pair of wheels but cant afford it, i think its cool they can buy something close and have a decent look.

scott

your xB and Jason's xB are two of the cleanest xB's out there...mad respect for both your cars...you can never argue the quality of Work wheels...

the D2s are just another affordable alternative for other people (like me) to run wheels with aggressive widths and offsets...i'd rock the Meister's or Eurolines in a heartbeat, but i don't have the money for them...ask Rishie, i bug him about it all the time :rofl: ...and you know i've bugged you and Jason a couple of times about your wheels and such :P


JC

props to you for rockin works. i'm sure we'd all get authentic wheels if we could.

btw, aren't the D2's copies of SSR SP1s and not meisters?

Not to be poopy but aren't Eurolines copies of MB tuner Lorinser wheels?

some of us aren't single, have no bills, or live w/ mom or dad.

copy or not, its what one person likes and can afford.

if someone is happy w/ a certain design and manufacturer, who cares if its a $3k set of wheels or $1k set of wheels.

-couldn't find any pics of the classic early 90's Lorinsers I'm thinking of but here's some decendents of them...

http://www.streetdreams.org//wheels/lorinser/lorinser_rsk3_silver.jpg
http://www.barracuda-bay.com/wheel/lorinser/rsk322.jpg
http://www.barracuda-bay.com/wheel/lorinser/rsk522.jpg

But aren't all wheel designs copies of others?

Of course there are slight variations, well except the teddy bear rims from a while back.

They are just made by different companies using different manufacturing techniques.

I rock works simply cuz I could get the sizes I wanted. There will no knockoffs of anythign going into my car from now on anyway. I just don't agree with the people that "say" they want this JDM wheel or that JDM wheel and then balk at the pric. They then go out and by stock offset wheels that LOOK like JDM wheels. I'm not made of money either which is why it's taken me over a year to get where I am.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

rota defiantly is making some cash..
copied mugen rims one after another after another..
then GAB's/sprinthart style... te37s.... cp035s...
enkei.. hahah it keeps on going.

i guess its a cool affordable wheel, i just think it sucks
for those who got the real deal, now theres gonna be a bunch
of loook-alikes.. making the real deal not so unique looking.

rota sure is capitalizing on this whole deal.

every type of company does that. when taco bell comes out with a new item, del taco copies it. when Chevy comes out with a new model, GMC copies it. there's no escaping the fact that companies want to make money. it's not like those wheels have some elaborate design that's being imitated, it's a 5 star mag wheel and those have been around since waaaaaaay back.

no doubt rota is the worst. but i guess it's all about the might dollar. and in a way i guess they play robin hood in a sense.

the way i see it, i'm pretty up on my shizz. if i threw down serious cash for works, volks, etc. and some dude thinks another car with rotas is sweeter than mine, his opinion would mean nothing to me.

let ppl enjoy they're copies (myself included haha). real enthusiasts know what's authentic and what's not.

sorry i'm not a baller. can't throw 3 g's down on a set of wheels. :rofl:

Well said, "real enthusiasts know what's authentic and what's not".

I don't care what other people have on their cars, some I like, some I dislike--that's my opinion and fortunately i'm entitled to it. Anyhow, I find it funny how people make buying authentic wheels into a bad thing all of a sudden because of price. If one can spend $2000 on a car audio equipment, neon lights, body kits, etc--why can't someone else spend that same $2000 on a nice set of wheels?

Money is Money, isn't it?

haha...i think he was making a point in spelling it incorrectly to signify it's swap meet origins...hence the offspelling.

Anyhow, upon further research it seems that the D2 is actually more like the SSR Professor SP1 or the 3 piece Work Meister S1.

The D2 looks more like SSR prof. Sp1
http://store1.yimg.com/I/hopup1_1854_69543200.jpg

Work also makes wheels that look like old school mag Cragars... do you think that kids in Japan that imported the real USDM deal get ____ed about that? I doubt it...

^^ exactly

Work also makes wheels that look like old school mag Cragars... do you think that kids in Japan that imported the real USDM deal get ____ed about that? I doubt it...

:doh: :lalala:

It's not a question of originality. It's about quality - meaning: what you get for your money!

Rota does not hide the fact that they make copies, but at least they don't charge ridiculous prices.

I commend Work as well for making quality high end wheels for reasonable prices - as far as high end wheels go.

hmm.. i guess that does make sense.
but honestly, jdmxb is right, i think that
them people spending hundreds of dollars
on ____ty quality audio equipment, and budget
lcd's just to say they got them are idiots.
especially if they're the ones that probably think
its stupid to spend money for quality rims. those
people also rock primered cars, bodykits, no rims no
paint, no drop, but they're "raced out"

anyways. i guess u always will get what u pay for..
instead of having temporary rims for the duration of
owning my car, i can just have 1 set. it works out fine
for me. its also true in my circle of friends who have
quality wheels. taiwan and phillipines just aren't quality.

i guess u get what u pay for, and although rota is a good
alternative to spending a lot on rims...
buyer beware.

http://www.simplegraphix.com/wheels/DCP_2795.JPG
http://www.simplegraphix.com/wheels/DCP_2797.JPG
http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v102/4Bangin/100_0211.jpg
http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v102/4Bangin/100_0212.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/imsadb/d2/100_2123.jpg
whats next?

^^^ ooh that's cold...

Show me a rim that won't bend of crack when its slammed into a curb going at least 15 mph.

Two sides to every story.

If obvious in the pics that those wheels didn't just come apart from daily driving.

Heck, even I had a set of Tenzo RS5s where I bent a rim just driving to work because of all of the potholes on the freeways.

i remember when i first saw those xB's with the Work wheels at a local meet. I was surprised to see them in 4x100 with such dish. My friend said, "those wheels must cost more than the car." LOL.

I like originals because of the rare-ness, especially among older wheels. It does bother me that copies exist, but when you have the originals you get more props. I remember when I had Volk AV3's back in 1996. People rolling look-a-like Konig Monsoons would feel ashamed when I rolled up next to them. hahaha.

What really bothers me is when a company makes a copy and markets/sells them at a premium price....*cough*axis*cough*

yea! axis is guilty as charged! hahaha

tenzo rs5 = 5zigen 5zr copse..
thats probably why, just another rim company who bites..
tenzo shu4... shumachers..
tenzo sinco .. mugen rnr..
tenzo RS5... 5zigen 5zr(copse)...
tenzo gt05 - racing hart cpftuner r's...
tenzo c's... racing hart c2's...

eh, anyways,. if u do a lil searching, u'll see theres law suits against rota. rota actually announced that if u had a set of subzeros pre 03 or something, they will replace for free.
theres a reason for that... couple of wrx owners had to
pay the price..

more power to the people who get rota's.. just wanna buyer beware.... oh dude av3's were the ____..
and when konig monsoons hit! it was crazy! everyone and their mom had some.. rig ht around what? 97? 96?

Joey,

Please show me an aluminum wheel that won't bend or crack when its slammed into a curb going at least 15 mph.

Not everyone can afford the real deal as I previously posted.

Maybe someone doesn't want to rock $3k wheels on a vehicle that use to daily commute in that was only $15k to begin with.

Everyone has their own tastes and what wheel they like and dislike.

"To each his own".

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-296503.html
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=309119&page=1&pp=25
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=262667
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=442224

just a few of the threds that showed up when looked up "Rota" on Nasoic.org...i read about a Rota issue before, so that's why i searched...they admitted about a mistake, recalled wheels, and as far as i know replaced them for free...even a Rota wheel rep came into the forums to clarify things and answer emails from concerned customers with a damaged wheel or non damaged wheel...for their price, i think they are great wheels

JC

Joey how did you say it last time?

"Knock Offs, Knock Offs wait til they Break Off!"
Not sure how it went exactly but I was :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

At least Rota's are cheap to replace and you don't have to wait 3 months to get them.

I'm all about authentic wheels, but sometimes it just doesn't make sense economically. I personally have ____ty wheels for daily driving, and good wheels for when i fee special.

Now the Rota D2 that autornd is coming out with are as good an offset as any custom Work Wheel. Talking 8.5" wide front and rear, with low 20s offset. Now that can't be beat.

If these replica guys start coming out with low offset wide wheels, the "JDM" market is going to be having problems.

US=price point market, tiz the problem i've encountered.

If you can't beat em, join em, as a "vendor would say".

I will like to say that running real ____ will always gain you that much more respect. At least you can say you're "One of the FEW."

Peace, Rishie

I don't think JDM market will have any problems,
who ever is going to pay $3k~$5k for a set of rims. they know exactly what they are buying and its not just about having a low offset set wheels to look good , its about the quality which they will never get from cheaper brands !! JDMP