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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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OK......last show I was at I got all the way under my car to clean the rims in the rear (this was my first show btw so I had never seen back there). I noticed the rims were scratched all the way around facing the center of the car. Turns out they were rubbing against a node jutting out too far from the control arm and it rubbed all the finish off the wheel and metal off the node. I called the dealership to tell them I want new rims! This is not my bad....if a tech had come out and told me the problem to begin with...I would have gotten smaller rims or a different width (mine are 7cm now). I was told by a wheel rep from the dealership that "1 out of every 20 scions or so has a node that is a few mm too far out" WTF?????......
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Part two of the story.....my dealership decided it was their bad and they would pay for a new set of rims only for the rear. They sent a truck to my house and I watched the guy do it. He put spacers (which I didn't really want) but I am now going to get spacers from onetongarage.com. When I asked what brand he was using he said "I dunno, we put them all on all the scions though." YAH.....OK. here are some pics of the mobile unit:

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Anyone else having this problem? not sure? go check now!!!!
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roquexa wut size of rims do you have...
my used to that but was because of the rotation and balancing on the tires.....((other thing that i did was bought a space of 1/8 or 1/4 for the rears and problem solved....
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18 inch Enkei (even though I paid for 17s, the dealership messed that one up too)....7 inches wide. I am going to get spacers from onetongarage.com as soon as I can. OH and get this.....as I drove it around, I heard creaking when I braked and when I turned....is this a "too much pressure on the suspension" issue?
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It sucks that this happened but it's nice that the dealer is taking care of it for you.
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Yup sho nuff......any takes on the creaking issue????
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Creaking may be caused by your springs. Tanabe Springs include a special "wrap" for the rear springs to stop this noise.
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The creaking may be your spacers or new wheels. With spacers (and any new alloy wheel) you will have to retorque the lug nuts after a week or so, and then about once a month afterwards to make sure they're tight. Steel wheels have a torque ring that acts as a lock washer. Alloys don't and need the torque checked on a regular basis.
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If I were you, I would get the OTGs installed asap, and get rid of the spacers the dealership put on our xA.

If you are running 18x7.5, then you need an offset of +42 or less. Sounds like maybe the wheels you have are +45 and is just enuff to rub.
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Originally Posted by squirrel
If you are running 18x7.5, then you need an offset of +42 or less. Sounds like maybe the wheels you have are +45 and is just enuff to rub.

I dunno man...I just put Sportmax 923's on my wife's xA - 17x7.5, 38mm offset, and I would bet next month's salary that if they were 42 offset they WOULD be rubbing. They are so effing close to that nubbin...I could barely shimmy a piece of cardboard between the rim & the nubbin.

OTG's hub shims came in the mail today - I just have to go get metric grade 10.9 bolts, because he supplies metric grade 8.8, and they're just not rated good enough for this application.
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+38 will fit fine in the rear.

I had +42 on a 17x7.5 and only needed a 3mm ring on the dirver side to even everything out look-wise.


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If you are running 18x7.5, then you need an offset of +42 or less. Sounds like maybe the wheels you have are +45 and is just enuff to rub.

I dunno man...I just put Sportmax 923's on my wife's xA - 17x7.5, 38mm offset, and I would bet next month's salary that if they were 42 offset they WOULD be rubbing. They are so effing close to that nubbin...I could barely shimmy a piece of cardboard between the rim & the nubbin.

OTG's hub shims came in the mail today - I just have to go get metric grade 10.9 bolts, because he supplies metric grade 8.8, and they're just not rated good enough for this application.
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Originally Posted by squirrel
+38 will fit fine in the rear.

Oh, yeah, I know...I said that's what I installed on my wife's car, and that if they were +4 more (your +42) they would DEFINITELY rub.

So I guess I'm saying that 7.5" wide rims with a +42 offset would seem to be too close, based on my 7.5" rims with +38 offset.

Unless Sportmax 923's are 8" wide, which their part# would seem to indicate...ok, now I have to go measure.
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Yeah, so forget everything I said.

The rims on my wife's xA are 8" wide, +38 offset, which would be why they're so effing close to rubbing.
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8" wide??? I had to pull my wheel off to actually see the damage. I could fit a business card between the wheel and the nub.....because it had already rubbed it down!!!! I am going to tighten the lug nuts every week as advised. And get the OTG as soon as possible.
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good thing you didn't buy that 1/20 scion crap they were giving you.
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^^^^ even though I'm still learning stuff about my car, that still sounded like such bullshyt to me. I mean come on!!!!! I think he was talkin to me like that cause I'm a chick....good thing I do know better.
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I'm running 8.5s in the rear +35.
Old Aug 24, 2005 | 02:55 AM
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Thnx for the advice and info guys.
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Too bad we're not closer we could have an install party for the shims. Wouldn't last long, but it would be fun. :D



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