Should there be an event committee for Phoenix Metro Scions to stay better organized for gatherings, car shows, and road trips?

I nominate Bryan for secretary if he agrees to wear revealing outfits and fetch me Starbucks.

I nominate Bryan for secretary if he agrees to wear revealing outfits and fetch me Starbucks.

Chico, handle your woman here! :rofl: :rofl:

sounds like a good diea to me. except the part of Bryon dressing up like anything.

That would be cool. I have been looking for a group in phoenix. :bow: I am in Mesa and I get my xB sometime between now and Oct. 1st. (Whenever it gets delivered :pray: ) I have a tacoma right now and I used to be a part of a pretty big group of tacoma enthusiasts and I would like that with my scion. Do you ever go out or have events with other scion owners in the area now?

That would be cool. I have been looking for a group in phoenix. :bow: I am in Mesa and I get my xB sometime between now and Oct. 1st. (Whenever it gets delivered :pray: ) I have a tacoma right now and I used to be a part of a pretty big group of tacoma enthusiasts and I would like that with my scion. Do you ever go out or have events with other scion owners in the area now?

Just about every weekend! Check www.scionetics.com for details.

I'd just like it if someone was cool with letting me call them everytime I'm lost in Phx :P

Welcome, there are meets every weekend. There is always something going on in the Scion community.

I think it would be a great idea and i would not have a problem being a part of it. I think a good idea would be for someone to have a contact list for everyone that wants to give out there information and have somone send out emails and make calls to people so everyone can know whats going on. Maybe have a site besides Scionlife that can list events and have a sign off sheet that someone can be in charge of for everyone to see who is going to what event and what will be involved. Whoever can get this going please PM me and I will truly step up and do my best.

I think it would be a great idea and i would not have a problem being a part of it. I think a good idea would be for someone to have a contact list for everyone that wants to give out there information and have somone send out emails and make calls to people so everyone can know whats going on. Maybe have a site besides Scionlife that can list events and have a sign off sheet that someone can be in charge of for everyone to see who is going to what event and what will be involved. Whoever can get this going please PM me and I will truly step up and do my best.

take a look at www.scionetics.com thats where all of the meets are posted

I just realized that everyone that has posted in this topic has a TC. I feel out of place. I would look like the ugly duckling behind you guys. That is, if I could keep up with that engine. :nails:

I think it would be a great idea and i would not have a problem being a part of it. I think a good idea would be for someone to have a contact list for everyone that wants to give out there information and have somone send out emails and make calls to people so everyone can know whats going on. Maybe have a site besides Scionlife that can list events and have a sign off sheet that someone can be in charge of for everyone to see who is going to what event and what will be involved. Whoever can get this going please PM me and I will truly step up and do my best.

take a look at www.scionetics.com thats where all of the meets are posted

I know about that site and that it posts events but it doesn't have anything listing who plans on attending, alerts on changes for the event, stuff like that. For instance one of the meetups this weekend was at Sixshooters originally but that then changed to The sets. Unless someone went into the forums to notice the change they would have gone to the old location and not know what's going on.

Do it!

I know about that site and that it posts events but it doesn't have anything listing who plans on attending, alerts on changes for the event, stuff like that. For instance one of the meetups this weekend was at Sixshooters originally but that then changed to The sets. Unless someone went into the forums to notice the change they would have gone to the old location and not know what's going on.

So what exactly are you proposing? Because if someone were to create some kind of a webpage for events you would have to log on and check for updates on there as well. Or are you saying it would be nice to have a contact list for that sort of thing? :shock:

I think it would be a great idea and i would not have a problem being a part of it. I think a good idea would be for someone to have a contact list for everyone that wants to give out there information and have somone send out emails and make calls to people so everyone can know whats going on. Maybe have a site besides Scionlife that can list events and have a sign off sheet that someone can be in charge of for everyone to see who is going to what event and what will be involved. Whoever can get this going please PM me and I will truly step up and do my best.

I thought we were making a contact list? what ever happened to that? Good idea on the committee

Look at this topic!! :tap: Does anyone in arizona drive xB's? I didnt realize there were so many tc's out there.

Hi everyone,

Since I am the one that kind of opened my mouth and ideas this morning to Bryon, I thought I should say to everyone what I am thinking here.

I dont think we need a committee or anything like to arrange events. I feel we DO need a spokesman for the group for car shows that we plan to attend.

There are many reasons as to why and I will try to touch on some of them here. In case anyone is wondering where the hell I get off or anything like that. All I am doing is sharing my vast knowledge of going to car shows, running car shows and attending car shows over many years.

First - If we are to go to car shows we need to look like a respectible group? As of right now there are a lot of things in limbo for this weekends show.

Such as - how many people are going? What time and so forth. When attending shows we should roll in together so we look more uniform and cause the least amount of issues for the group holding the event. We do want to get invited next time right? It always looks better to get invited versus showing up. We want to look organized, right?

Do we know if there is a Scion Class for trophies? Are they offering any type of make trophies? If we had a large enough group maybe they would consider making a class for us. This is not to say that would be the case every event. Just thoughts. I have seen this done before where a club had to change their classes and only did for the people that contacted, lobbied and work with the group putting it on and those that didnt were SOL.

There are also has been talk with many people in this group to hold a car show for charity at some point in time. It would be really great if we had the contacts and working realtionship with the other clubs or groups in the area when that time comes so they can come to our event as well, right?

The list can go on and on, but I dont want to take up too much time and space here.

The After9 event with Larry Miller was just a good wake up call. Dont get me wrong I had fun and would do it again, just differently.

We had no idea where we were going. We had no idea where to park, how to park or anything like that. We prolly could have been judged if we had worked on the arrangements earlier, so people like Hot Wheels and Randode could have one something.

What I suggested to Bryon was this - Have one person be selected to work with the groups, events people or car clubs to make sure we have all the info needed and they do as well to make sure that eevryone gets the most out of the show.

If we do select someone then everyone is MORE than welcomed, ACTUALLY encouraged to find out the info for any show that we might want to attend and pass it on to that person in charge - (ie name, contact, dates whatever) Then this person goes to work and gets all the info for us to review, look at and decide if we are going to attend.

If I am way off base then please let me know. I just want is best for the group that shows their cars and wants to win some trophies while looking oragnized and out together.

Chad

Look at this topic!! :tap: Does anyone in arizona drive xB's? I didnt realize there were so many tc's out there.

Yeah there are a ton of xB's in the area. Come to meet or start a poll. They prolly are all working right now and dont get to screw off during the day like tC owners :rofl:

Scionetics is set up to be fully functional for all of our needs.

The point about six shooters is exactly what were talking about.

The whole point of a SMALL committee is so our meets and communication among the group is more organized. IT IS NOT SO SOMEONE CAN DICTATE EVERYTHING THIS GROUP DOES! The group should still be the main decidee as to what we do and who we do it with. The committee or spokespeople for the group could contact event promoters, businesses, or places were gonna meet to ensure that things run as smooth as possible. And then to inform us via SL or scionetics with instructions and directions for each event.

Any other feedback?

Look at this topic!! :tap: Does anyone in arizona drive xB's? I didnt realize there were so many tc's out there.

Yeah there are a ton of xB's in the area. Come to meet or start a poll. They prolly are all working right now and dont get to screw off during the day like tC owners :rofl:

Yes there are alot of xB's out here.. I pick on everyone all the time..

*looks around where's mooneyez* he is another active xB poster.


more to come on this.. I am off work and have errands to run,
I think Chad is on the ball.. but I will add to this later.

*out to the fray of traffic.. wish me luck :lalala:

i have one question!!! why do we dodge the whole club idea?

I think a community would be cool if that is some funny way of saying we r a club but we dont want to say it!!

Anyways i do agree that we do need to be a little more oragnized :)

i have one question!!! why do we dodge the whole club idea?

I think a community would be cool if that is some funny way of saying we r a club but we dont want to say it!!

Anyways i do agree that we do need to be a little more oragnized :)

You see, when I hear club, I see rules & regulations. I see banishment when my girlfriend wants me at home for two weekends in a row and I cant come to a show. At least this is the way it was when I was younger. Now, when I hear community, I see a group of long distance friends. I see BBQ's and events not always having to do with the cars, but involving the cars. I see everyone not seeing that one person for a month because he had a life outside of his car and couldnt show up to the events for a while. In my opinion, this is the difference between club and community.

i have one question!!! why do we dodge the whole club idea?

I think a community would be cool if that is some funny way of saying we r a club but we dont want to say it!!

Anyways i do agree that we do need to be a little more oragnized :)

You see, when I hear club, I see rules & regulations. I see banishment when my girlfriend wants me at home for two weekends in a row and I cant come to a show. At least this is the way it was when I was younger. Now, when I hear community, I see a group of long distance friends. I see BBQ's and events not always having to do with the cars, but involving the cars. I see everyone not seeing that one person for a month because he had a life outside of his car and couldnt show up to the events for a while. In my opinion, this is the difference between club and community.

i was talking about stickers, shirt , shows...stuff like that not a prez or other people 2 kick u out cause u have not shown cause u have a life outside from the scion crew..i dont think any of us want that!!

I gotz an xB tu. IT has dum stikkers that pump the horsies up abowt 50 or sew. No joak, way much more fastest than tC's.

I gotz an xB tu. IT has dum stikkers that pump the horsies up abowt 50 or sew. No joak, way much more fastest than tC's.

community or no?

You are right about the club thing, but there is informal and formal. I believe everyone wants to stay as a community per se. I am just suggested for those people that show their cars that we get a little bit more oragnized and make suer we make the most out of it and get the most from it.

A side note. We have 181 views right now, but only 8 votes. If you are reading this thread and want to voice your opinion then please do...that is what this if for.

Well I will probably come off sounding like a jerk, but oh well.

The local Scion community is in place already, although organization would be much better for events (like an event leader or something). I know Eddie has done a great job in the past on getting things setup, although it seems he tends to get screwed part of the time with people not paying their bills (I know that's happened to a few others of you as well) when we go to dinner, Amazing Jakes, etc.

I've been a part of many automotive enthusiasts groups over the years, and I've never seen such a "cliquey" group than you guys. I can count on one hand the amount of people who are outgoing and talkative, as well as who make it comfortable for a new person to come to an event. It's for this reason that I haven't been going lately (not that anyone would notice). I feel way out of place enough having an xA, let alone not being a part of the "OMG Bryon's a slut in a bunnysuit" clique or whatever.

Back on topic, forming a "club" and establishing a name is what gains respect. Look at what Ground Zero, Negative Camber, etc have done. People know who they are. If you were to ask any AZ Scion owner what club they were a part of, you'd get 25 different answers. If everyone knows the name, then when they tell people about a show, or organizing an event, they KNOW who they are talking about.

However doing the "club" thing with by-laws, positions, etc. sucks. No one here really wants to do that. Not when there are so many eager-to-lead people in the group.

My suggestion is to settle on a name, have it trademarked (about $15), and go from there. That way there's a set name for t-shirts, stickers, etc., as well as everyone being on the same page when it comes to the name of the group! IMHO, Phoenix Scions Commitee is a horrible name.

Just my 2 cents. Sorry if I offended anyone.

Jason,

I know that I appreciate your comments very much and thanks for taking the time to post. I also know that I like seeing lots of different people at meets and finding all kinds of stuff like what people do for a living etc. I am sure most of us are that way and I do hope that you start coming back to meets. We dont know each other, but the events are ways to do this. If you have felt neglected or that you are not part of the group, I will be the first to say "I'm an very sorry for that"

BTW, I like the fact you have an xA. Makes you unique. :P

DOHCtorJT ...where have u been...u r my xa buddy :) i cant be the only one!!!

I wouldn't mind a group of people that organized everything depending on who it is. Some people are great leaders while others just like to think they are. I would nominate Ed, Chad and Mark just off the top of my head. Good guys there. I would bend over backwards for them, other people not so much.

Don't get me started on cliques.

I know about that site and that it posts events but it doesn't have anything listing who plans on attending, alerts on changes for the event, stuff like that. For instance one of the meetups this weekend was at Sixshooters originally but that then changed to The sets. Unless someone went into the forums to notice the change they would have gone to the old location and not know what's going on.

So what exactly are you proposing? Because if someone were to create some kind of a webpage for events you would have to log on and check for updates on there as well. Or are you saying it would be nice to have a contact list for that sort of thing? :shock:

We could build an email list on Scionetics. In fact, we have it already. Then we can create a sign-up sheet for reminders to people that say they want to come out. We could also do a weekly email of the general info, including the event calendar.

The info on Scionetics is localized so, if you're in the Phoenix area, you only see local events. We could set this up for any area in the US.

i have one question!!! why do we dodge the whole club idea?

I think a community would be cool if that is some funny way of saying we r a club but we dont want to say it!!

Anyways i do agree that we do need to be a little more oragnized :)

We're the "un-club"

I would say yes, but then again, I have been in groups where they've turned it this way, and let's just say, it was all arguments from there(i.e. nobody being able to decide on one place to go, then other's complaining about how far things are away from their house and so on.)

YES on community
NO on club

I just believe that people aren't as involved as they say they are. I was at Camelback with Mark and Chris thinking of things we can do to get people motivated again. I believe some people only show up for meets with prizes, and others have good reasons not to show, like money situations and the like.

I suggested we have something that could involved everyone and not offend anybody. It would be fun and cheap to have say bbq's and such.

I just moved into a condo right by Desert Ridge. We can always rent out the clubhouse for the day, there is a nice pool and hot tub, the clubhouse has a billiards room and a theatre. If anyone has an xbox or anything, we can plug it right into the theatre and play on the bigscreen.

I think we just need more ideas that will involve everyone, hence the idea of community, this way there will be more involvment. Bars and gentlemen's clubs could be nice as a something on the side, but for the main event, it's kind of hard for those with family members, or those who don't fancy such places.

Just a thought.

P.S. keep it community not club

i have one question!!! why do we dodge the whole club idea?

I think a community would be cool if that is some funny way of saying we r a club but we dont want to say it!!

Anyways i do agree that we do need to be a little more oragnized :)

We're the "un-club"

:rofl: i knew it!!!

ok... i just want to put it out there that im a Pharcyde wife and i know about the club stuff!

I gotz an xB tu. IT has dum stikkers that pump the horsies up abowt 50 or sew. No joak, way much more fastest than tC's.

You feeling ok? :eyebrow:

We don't need political structure, just better organization, which is what this thread is about. I like the group, the people and the atmosphere at the meets and I haven't noticed any cliques with this group. As for people not feeling welcome.... that's a bad thing on our part if it's happening. I'd like to think that it's just our core of people, tight-knit, and nothing more. We just need to be mindful of becoming, or seeming to become, a clique of any sort.

I think a website could do a lot, and I'm willing to modify Scionetics to suite us if that's the consensus here. Right now I'm working on the dealer-side of the site but I'll be able to handle the planning and email features sometime in the next week. I'm also open to other suggestions. :)

I think the point is getting totally missed here.

"Do we think that we should have one person as our spokesperson for car shows and events where there are trophies and entry fees"

If anyone wants a better explanation as to why this would be very important to the group, the community and individuals involved or those that participate you can call me anytime.

Everything else should stay the same IMHO.

an event committe would be good.

ok *cracks knuckles* Let me jump in here and put what ever my voicalization is worth.
Let me see if I can get this whole thing in one ball of wax.


Community or Club
For us as a Community: Yes, we need to have a bit more input organization and set up for events. That is what Scionetics is set up for. BUT, I do thing we need to have couple of people to help setting that up where it can be updated, amended, edited etc. Since putting that on one persons shoulders would overload and burn that person out. I would not call it a committee more of a volunteer type option that has ablity to access those areas needed to update Community information/activites etc.
As a community we do need to get one mind set going for who we are.
A poll or thread on what we should call ourselves here in our area.
That way when someone does ask.. We do have one set name.

Those from other areas comming in here to recruit thier club/groups back off this is not the time or the place for you in this thread..


Now for setting it up as a organized club, Naw.. I have done the car club thing now for 20+ years. Yes, its strict, yes rules have to be inforced , Yes attendance does get manditory, yes dues (depends on the club) have to be collected.
I don't think 90% of this community would want to put up with that.
It would make what is happening now Un-fun and more of a task.
When Joey got her xA we did a couple meets, I had a riot it was like the very old days of when all my now car club family used to hang out. It was a very BIG fresh breath of air. Now that I can activitily be part of it since I have my box its even better.
As for the Click's... yea they are there.. but its just normal instances of who hangs out more. Easiest way to get sucked in to all this.. Jump in head first and have fun with it. Only way to meet and get to know everyone out there is walk up to them and talk at them.. Make that person feel uncomfortable for a minute or two :rofl: BUT it works.. makes them go WOW.. they spoke to me, I must be important.
If they don't come up to you.. Walk up yourself. OR come get some of the more active boardies that is why we are out there .. to meet and make new friends!

Ask Joey, first time she went to a National truck show with me she flipped out on how many people I knew that came up to me to shake hands/bs etc.
Ask Jay he has been in the same circle of Truck shows, he has seen the 2 day camping trucking events with thousssaaands of people in attendance.




I know this has been floating out there for a long while now and I guess its time(and by the views) it has been needed.


hmmm. :ponder: :relief: :pray: hope that covers it all.. I know I am going to amend and edit this a couple more times.. but awell.. *hits submit*

I think the point is getting totally missed here.

"Do we think that we should have person as our spokesperson for car shows and events where there are trophies and entry fees"

If anyone wants a better explanation as to why this would be very important to the group, the community and individuals involved or those that participate you can call me anytime.

Everything else should stay the same IMHO.


GAH.. see I knew I forgot something :doh: .. thanks Chad

One of those volunteers on Scionetics when they do post up about a show when they are putting up that information at that time frame they could call/email and see what is all offered at that show for classes and fee's. That way its fresh on thier mind when they post. Also usally there is a map that person can also go.. Ok.. show is there.. umm.. central spot for us to meet up at is *picks spot* and that is posted at the same time.. Another good idea is whom you talk to at that point in time.. post up that name.. So we all know who that information was recieved from
That and if information down the road needs to be updated feedback can be left (IE HiN where the event location has changed)

If you are talking about event coordinating in terms of "shows" for all that show their vehicles, ya, that would make perfect sense.

I was going to go and just put my box in last saturday, but I didn't have any warning. I was out all day running errands and didn't get a chance to hit the boards all day.

when you speak of the others events, such as random meets and bbq's and such, we still need to have things concrete as in keeping the same plans and not changing them a couple of hours prior. I just think we need more ideas to bring everyone back out here.

im all for a representative to arrange and organize the shows.

i want no part of a club.

been there, done it. i was part of the first scion club in the world. my wife was even the VP for a time. clubs can be awesome, but my last club ended up loosing about half of its members to another club that popped up. so then the people who we were friends with just a few weeks earlier now viewed us as enemies. thats not cool. i would hate to see that happen in arizona. and what about club dues? once money becomes invloved, people get wierd, and its understandable. i'm sure that if i gave $50 per year to a club, i'd want to know why all i got was a sticker. go ahead and flame me if you want. i'm just speaking from my own experience.

im all for a representative to arrange and organize the shows.

i want no part of a club.

been there, done it. i was part of the first scion club in the world. my wife was even the VP for a time. clubs can be awesome, but my last club ended up loosing about half of its members to another club that popped up. so then the people who we were friends with just a few weeks earlier now viewed us as enemies. thats not cool. i would hate to see that happen in arizona. and what about club dues? once money becomes invloved, people get wierd, and its understandable. i'm sure that if i gave $50 per year to a club, i'd want to know why all i got was a sticker. go ahead and flame me if you want. i'm just speaking from my own experience.

http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/images/emoticons/violent-smiley-027.gif :eyes:

there you go Randy.. done and out of the way.
I hear ya bro, gotta love that age old drama.

agreed

im all for a representative to arrange and organize the shows.

i want no part of a club.

been there, done it. i was part of the first scion club in the world. my wife was even the VP for a time. clubs can be awesome, but my last club ended up loosing about half of its members to another club that popped up. so then the people who we were friends with just a few weeks earlier now viewed us as enemies. thats not cool. i would hate to see that happen in arizona. and what about club dues? once money becomes invloved, people get wierd, and its understandable. i'm sure that if i gave $50 per year to a club, i'd want to know why all i got was a sticker. go ahead and flame me if you want. i'm just speaking from my own experience.

its ok randy i have already been falmed so i wont do it to u.... :)

Well put Randy.
I too have been part of 3 different mini truck clubs in the past and money and club switching seemed to be the things that broke everyone apart.
The club idea is ok to a point but when you start making a rule book and ask for dues, its time to go on to better things.
I still like the sound of "The scion community" instead of "the scion club", sounds more relaxed and fun being know as a community.

its ok randy i have already been falmed so i wont do it to u.... :)
who "falmed" you? sounds painfull. does rj know?

I too agree where this seems to be headed. I am one that has met or talked to several of the members of the community here but have yet to make it to a formal meet! Everyone has been extremely helpful to me and made me feel welcome even though some of us have never met face to face.

I like the "organized community" with someone to contact as a "leader" but the group is responsible for the decisions. I am also a sucker for getting shirts and stickers printed up as it makes everyone feel part, no matter how smal your contribution might be.

I'm voting yes for the event committee and will continue to try to be a bigger part of this great community that is already established. I think that when you become a "club", the bigger problem is you get competative and nothing but bad can come of that in the long run.

Just my two cents,

JonnyD
PS - Malina, contact me, I lost your phone number for the radar detector. :)

I like the direction of all this thinking.

its ok randy i have already been falmed so i wont do it to u.... :)
who "falmed" you? sounds painfull. does rj know?

:silly:

I like this idea. I do have a phone list that I started back about a month or so ago, anyone that gave me thier phone number was e-mailed a phone list ( I think thier was about 17 to 20 people on it).
If we are going to make this work we need input from all. We do not need to have someone not say anything and then have hurt feelings a month or two later. Just as long as we stay an un-club!!!!!
BTW Thanks Jason for the kind words :bow:

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I've been a part of many automotive enthusiasts groups over the years, and I've never seen such a "cliquey" group than you guys. I can count on one hand the amount of people who are outgoing and talkative, as well as who make it comfortable for a new person to come to an event. It's for this reason that I haven't been going lately (not that anyone would notice). I feel way out of place enough having an xA,
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You know I kind of thought the same thing when my wife and I went to our first meeting at the chick filet in avondale earlier this year. When we got there we pulled
in and didn't park by everyone else -- well because we were stock and everyone
there wasn't. Did we feel out if place -- yes -- And we just kind of walked around
looking at everyone's car's feeling really out of place, but later on someone came
up to us and introduced himself and made us feel welcome and at the next meet we went to at the arizona mills shopping center I did what rj recommended -
I walked up to the group and just started talking and the next thing you know were
shaking hand's and introducing our self's -- it's been different ever since then ==
so please don't stop coming out because were all not "outgoing". And yes we need more XA's!!

now that said == sorry chad didn't mean to go off topic == YES we need more
organization -- but who is willing to take the extra time out of their daily routine
to do this. We all work and have family as well and there is never enough time in
the day to get thing's done -- there are very capable people in our group -- I won't
name name's -- but there are 3 that come to mind . I vote more organization -- no
to a club. -- I am a proponate for better orginization -- we could surely use it

I think the point is getting totally missed here.

"Do we think that we should have one person as our spokesperson for car shows and events where there are trophies and entry fees"

If anyone wants a better explanation as to why this would be very important to the group, the community and individuals involved or those that participate you can call me anytime.

Everything else should stay the same IMHO.

I agree, we need one person(s) to communicate with the bigger events and provide accurate, actionable information posted in a timely manner. Monitor the event schedules making necessary changes and notifications to the event calendar and threads.

This would also apply to the weekly events, not to make the decision of the location, this should be spontaneous as a group. After a decision/date has been made this contact person can be consulted/available to answer any questions on posting, if needed.

Last minute changes being made are difficult at best as most do not have access to or plan on checking the thread before leaving the house. My suggestion to Mark is to have a TXT message hot line. The event change if last minute would be changed online, emailed and TXT message to all on the hot list. That is being brain stormed now. The big SCION logo shinned in the sky (batman) was immediately ruled out. :P

As to the club, let’s stay “un-club” and support what some clubs and states all wish they had sitting in there back yard. Scionetics, you’re all local, you have a say so, go see Mark, pick up the phone or send him an email.

I've been a part of many automotive enthusiasts groups over the years, and I've never seen such a "cliquey" group than you guys. I can count on one hand the amount of people who are outgoing and talkative, as well as who make it comfortable for a new person to come to an event. It's for this reason that I haven't been going lately (not that anyone would notice). I feel way out of place enough having an xA, let alone not being a part of the "OMG Bryon's a slut in a bunnysuit" clique or whatever.
I dont know if i've talked to you in person yet. If I havent, I am sorry. I am kinda quiet around new people, but after a few minutes I am loud and crazy. Please dont feel out of place because you have an xA. xA's are quite rare out here, and they have a ton of potential. If your car is stock, dont sweat it. It just takes time. We were all stock at one point. It took me 2+ years of working on my car to get it o where it is now. I hope to see you at future events.

I dont know if i've talked to you in person yet. If I havent, I am sorry. I am kinda quiet around new people, but after a few minutes I am loud and crazy. Please dont feel out of place because you have an xA. xA's are quite rare out here, and they have a ton of potential. If your car is stock, dont sweat it. It just takes time. We were all stock at one point. It took me 2+ years of working on my car to get it o where it is now. I hope to see you at future events.

:cry: Gosh Randy. That was so SWEET of you to say!

im all for a representative to arrange and organize the shows.

i want no part of a club.

been there, done it. i was part of the first scion club in the world. my wife was even the VP for a time. clubs can be awesome, but my last club ended up loosing about half of its members to another club that popped up. so then the people who we were friends with just a few weeks earlier now viewed us as enemies. thats not cool. i would hate to see that happen in arizona. and what about club dues? once money becomes invloved, people get wierd, and its understandable. i'm sure that if i gave $50 per year to a club, i'd want to know why all i got was a sticker. go ahead and flame me if you want. i'm just speaking from my own experience.

I'm with you all the way. I havent experienced it personally, but I have seen many friends get into these retarded fights because one guy wanted to spend time with his girlfriend or something instead of go to the show so he got kicked out of the club and crap like that. Its stupid.

I think that we have all decided that we DO NOT want to be a Formal Club which has been the consensus for a long time around here in the AZ area.

But it looks like we agree that we need more structure when it comes to organizing events. So lets move this to the next phase and decide how we are going to do that. The hard part with a group this big is making decisions and not dragging our feet. So I am going to start a new thread about this topic only. Please take the time to post in there so everyone feels that they have a say and arent feeling left out.

I feel I need to chime in and voice my opion. You can count me in for one more of keeping the scion community an informal club. I personally think its best kept that way. I also think ones you get so many Rules and regulations that it takes away from the fun of just hanging out at a group. I mean thats what this is all about right?? is to have fun and enjoy everyones company so to speak. If we can't have fun with it then why even bother with it.

I have been involved in a couple of Model clubs one being for R/C Airplanes and one for Plastic models. I'm just going to share on the one for the plastic models that I was in. this club had the typical president, Vice President, Secretary. along with dues and etc... but they had some rules that in my opinion were sorta stupid. They would fine you if you missed two meetings in a row. Things like that don't make it fun to be part of. Anyway I went away to college (Moved to a different city that was 3 hours away) and for the first few months I'd come home on the weekends of the club meetings which were once a month well as I got busier with college I didn't have the time to always make it home for the meetings. well at one point I believe they wanted to kick me out cause I couldn't always make it. Well I got fed up with that and just said forget it, It wasn't worth my time. Granted I did have fun in the club but with things like that It wasn't fun anymore..

I do support the idea of having a spokes person so to speak for big shows. I think it is a good idea to have someone as the point of contact to get the information thats needed for shows and that way we can roll into places as a group. I also agree that our group just needs a little better organization. It is also hard to always make it out to every meet. Everyone one has lives outside of this group, alot have families, some have school. the list can go on.

I believe that we have a great group and its fun. I hate for anyone to feel if the group is cliquey. but it does take everyone to step out of their comfort zone and introduce themselves to new people that show up to make them feel welcome but also if you are a new person don't be shy, go up to people and introduce yourself. Everyone in the group is pretty friendly and easy to talk to.

its ok randy i have already been falmed so i wont do it to u.... :)
who "falmed" you? sounds painfull. does rj know?

:silly:

flamed sillys :rofl:

I dont know if i've talked to you in person yet. If I havent, I am sorry. I am kinda quiet around new people, but after a few minutes I am loud and crazy. Please dont feel out of place because you have an xA. xA's are quite rare out here, and they have a ton of potential. If your car is stock, dont sweat it. It just takes time. We were all stock at one point. It took me 2+ years of working on my car to get it o where it is now. I hope to see you at future events.

:cry: Gosh Randy. That was so SWEET of you to say!
excuse me for trying to be nice.

The big SCION logo shinned in the sky (batman) was immediately ruled out. :P

Ok, that made me laugh out loud!

Seriously, I undertstand Chad's point about the shows. Those of you that show your vehicles (unlike us who roll the stockies) should get together when a new show is announced and decide who will be the point person for that particular show (as the designated "club" spokesperson may not be participating in all shows, or another person may have a hook up at a particular show.) Perhaps that's where we can enlist the help of that fabulous website designed by our own resident geniuses - you know who you are - scionetics.com to have a section dedicated to show type events.

As far as regular weekend events, we need to make sure that the contact list that Eddie (Catalina Motorsports) is maintaining is complete. "17 or 20" people on the list is not even close to what we have at most events. If a location goes sour at the last minute, we can dial for dollars and get ahold of the group via cell to advise of a location change. Better yet, I am all over the mass text message from Scionetics.com to my cell.

Love ya all,

Susan

Thank you Chad for pointing out my double post. :P

Double post Susan and thaks for your input. Just trying to help Susan. Dont worry we all do it.

Yours too Chris.

excuse me for trying to be nice.

Hey, I was SINCERE. I sell cars, you can believe me!






Seriously... it was nice of you. Really. I mean that.

Now.. I have a project for you. Plus, I need some stickers. Interested?

For all those wanting to get a warm and fuzzy from being in an actual club remember you can always join the club Chico and I started, Team Super Hot Import Tuners.

For all those wanting to get a warm and fuzzy from being in an actual club remember you can always join the club Chico and I started, Team Super Hot Import Tuners.
i'm still a big
Arizona
Scion
Society
fan.

whats the new thread? I just want some cool scion people to hang out with....

whats the new thread? I just want some cool scion people to hang out with....

head cheese thingamajig

I would have to agree with Randy on the club thing. We too have been part of Remember When, Chevy and Cadilac Clubs here in Arizona and they all have gone down hill for one reason or another. Just my $0.02!!!