Well, I got the Ceramic Chromed pieces back. I was unable to get the 2 pieces in Blue because it was a 2 week wait on the line. So I will do that locally down the road Powder Coat. In the mean time, I had them do everything CermaKrome - good to 1800 deg. What do you all think? One thing I need to find is the pin key on the back housing of the turbo must have come out. Now I need to find one or make one. :tap: Edit - Thanks to Kenny...don't need it. :clap:
Holy mother of blangin exhaust housings. I'll be interested to see how that stuff looks after it gets good and hot. Be sure to whipe it all down good before you start it up the first time. Get all the oil and stuff off of it.
Charles
matty-tC
09-15-2005, 05:17 PM
i want to hump it
:shock: Smokin a cig as we speak :rofl: :rofl:
seriously man that looks great. congrats :)
ScionDad
09-15-2005, 05:18 PM
Holy mother of blangin exhaust housings. I'll be interested to see how that stuff looks after it gets good and hot. Be sure to whipe it all down good before you start it up the first time. Get all the oil and stuff off of it.
Charles
My brother had his Charger headers (yea, he has 2 of them :rofl: ) done by this company a year ago and he said the same thing. Wipe it down and keep it clean and it will not change colors.
Dirtyylicous
09-15-2005, 05:22 PM
Very nice, how much did all that cost?
ScionDad
09-15-2005, 05:27 PM
Very nice, how much did all that cost?
$250 for inside and out except turbo housing outside only. Cuts engine bay heat by 50%....so they say
rhythmnsmoke
09-15-2005, 05:28 PM
B...E....A...utiful
ScionDad
09-15-2005, 06:04 PM
B...E....A...utiful
Thanks guys...they did a great job. I need sun glasses to look at this stuff. :rofl:
ZPIracing
09-15-2005, 06:33 PM
needs more installed pics.........slacker
ScionDad
09-15-2005, 06:46 PM
I know, I know...I've had it here for 2 hours and it's still not installed. :lalala: :rofl:
PoizentC
09-15-2005, 06:56 PM
SEXY :love:
Simplyscion
09-15-2005, 07:19 PM
:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
rhythmnsmoke
09-15-2005, 07:33 PM
I know, I know...I've had it here for 2 hours and it's still not installed. :lalala: :rofl:
Maybe you should stop staring at it as if it was Hallie, Pamela, and Carmen naked. And get the darn thing installed. It's not a mantle piece.
ScionDad
09-15-2005, 07:37 PM
I know, I know...I've had it here for 2 hours and it's still not installed. :lalala: :rofl:
Maybe you should stop staring at it as if it was Hallie, Pamela, and Carmen naked. And get the darn thing installed. It's not a mantle piece.
Wait...are we talkin all 3 together in a pile? :love:
rolstc
09-15-2005, 07:39 PM
thats the stage 0 kit painted ?? how much did it run you ??
ScionDad
09-15-2005, 07:45 PM
thats the stage 0 kit painted ?? how much did it run you ??
I'm lookin at the bill. Total cost, all parts done $255. plus shipping.
rhythmnsmoke
09-15-2005, 07:54 PM
I know, I know...I've had it here for 2 hours and it's still not installed. :lalala: :rofl:
Maybe you should stop staring at it as if it was Hallie, Pamela, and Carmen naked. And get the darn thing installed. It's not a mantle piece.
Wait...are we talkin all 3 together in a pile? :love:
Yes Siiiirrr! That's what it would have to take in order for me to get my mind off of getting a ZPI turbo (well....maybe just Hallie, but you get the point).
ScionDad
09-15-2005, 08:03 PM
I know, I know...I've had it here for 2 hours and it's still not installed. :lalala: :rofl:
Maybe you should stop staring at it as if it was Hallie, Pamela, and Carmen naked. And get the darn thing installed. It's not a mantle piece.
Wait...are we talkin all 3 together in a pile? :love:
Yes Siiiirrr! That's what it would have to take in order for me to get my mind off of getting a ZPI turbo (well....maybe just Hallie, but you get the point).
My daughter just called...someone tipped her off of the pictures. :tap: :rofl: I told her I would need the car for the night and if something went wrong, maybe tomorrow for parts (02 sensor...stupid stuff maybe).
So, I'm off to get the mobile one 10w30 for the oil change and head home to start the install. Pics all the way guys.
jmiller20874
09-15-2005, 08:07 PM
:nails: can't wait. The suspense is killing me.
DTRUONG_112
09-15-2005, 08:30 PM
hurry up and install it.
BrEaK_AwaY
09-15-2005, 11:19 PM
sciondad you have one of the cleanist engines i have seen on a scion to date... cant wait to see the installed pictures.
raamaudio
09-15-2005, 11:27 PM
Sweet indeed:):) I plan to have our system coated as well, even more so with these great tempting pics, lol!
Rick
ignitionr34
09-15-2005, 11:32 PM
so shiny!!
DuMa
09-15-2005, 11:39 PM
install that ____ already!
ScottsdaleTC
09-16-2005, 12:45 AM
needs more installed pics.........slacker
The shoe is on the other foot now, you better get on that install before Kenny starts bagging on you for taking to long. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
It does look sweet, congrats on the good job. :clap:
Revilo
09-16-2005, 01:03 AM
do you have pics installed?
Dyltone
09-16-2005, 04:48 AM
Guess you're going to need that second day Hmmmm?
ScionDad
09-16-2005, 08:13 AM
Well, ran into a few problems I have been fighting. On the auto...the tranny cooling lines run in the way of the down pipe....had to pull them back to finish that part. They are touching the pipe, so I will have to buy some braided line tomorrow and just re-run them. It will look better anyway.
My DC strut bar gets in the way to the throttle body with the pipe.. But, if you remove some of the pipe, then the engine cover won't fit right....so, I'm not sure what I'm going to do there.
Oh the oil pan. :rofl: That bad boy is something else to remove.
All in all it would take about 4 to 5 hours max to install. I had the sweet fun of removing the K&N CAI - tire off, etc.
I have many pics which I will post tomorrow (today)...but here is one for now. I need sleep :rofl:
yea...the oil pan is a freaking beast!! we took a rubber hammer to it and went berserk on it. after a few good beatings it came off.....nice looking kit man. glad the zpi turbo kits are spreading now. i went out to bennigans tonight and had people surrounding my car and suprized with the numbers. i heard so many times that its a nice looking kit and all kinds of compliments. anyways nice looking kit and g'luck tomorrow.
bubblemyster
09-16-2005, 09:47 AM
nice. I have a question if anyone knows if there is a torque converter out for the auto tc? How much and also what else do I need to get if I want the 300hp turbo in my auto.
otnieltc
09-16-2005, 12:13 PM
looks awesome..hurry...hurry!
matty-tC
09-16-2005, 01:26 PM
sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
ScionDad
09-16-2005, 01:42 PM
Thanks guys.
This install is really straight forward to do. The auto tranny lines brought me to a dead stop. So, I unbolted them from the mounting on the block and pushed them out of the way (after trying for an hour a dozen different ways to install). However, they are laying up against the dump pipe, so I'm in the process of finding the tranny side thread to get stainless steel lines. If anyone knows what thread size this is. let me know. :bow: It's the 2 lines on the bottom right (drivers) side.
The throttle body pipe was the next challenge. If you have a strut bar....the pipe won't work. Well, since I'm not loosing that, I cut about 2 1/2 inches off the pipe and it fits fine. Now the engine cover won't fit. :doh: So, I will have to dremel off about an inch of that to allow for the pipe. I may just cut up the stock one if a different pipe layout will work down the road and save my carbom fiber. Got too late to figure that out.
Other than that guys, not bad at all. Kenny and ZPI is the best customer service I have ever seen. He gave me his cell and called him about 3 or 4 times.
The oil pan is just the craziest thing I ever seen. OMG. Best bet is to just drive a screw driver in from the passenger side and beat the crap out of it. It will go. :rofl:
let me know if you find out what size fittings are on the transmission. i'm also looking to get a trans cooler :)
ScionDad
09-16-2005, 02:02 PM
lol sounds like fun.
let me know if you find out what size fittings are on the transmission. i'm also looking to get a trans cooler :)
Kenny is looking up size and pitch now.
rhythmnsmoke
09-16-2005, 02:24 PM
MAN! that looks good... :clap:
Marshall
09-16-2005, 05:25 PM
Your setup is straight Pimpalicious.
http://65.42.106.152/forums/images/smilies/bling.gif
Good job man, I see several Best In Show Awards comming your way in the near future.
I appriciate the install info as well. I guess I should go ahead an purchase a rubber mallet and chisel (lol) for the oil pan... to get ready for mine.
matty-tC
09-16-2005, 06:48 PM
lol sounds like fun.
let me know if you find out what size fittings are on the transmission. i'm also looking to get a trans cooler :)
Kenny is looking up size and pitch now.
:clap:
BrEaK_AwaY
09-16-2005, 07:04 PM
very nice sciondad... looks great
chubster41
09-16-2005, 07:13 PM
WOW!
looks awesome...
terra_tC
09-16-2005, 07:16 PM
Nice, i really am getting attached to the zpi turbo. Congrats....Now finish it up!!
Beantowntc
09-16-2005, 07:54 PM
OMG...That is sex :shock:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/kirchwrk/P9160115.jpg
Souljah347
09-16-2005, 10:58 PM
thats sexy. i feel bad for you're daughters BF though... she's almost definitly going to show him up :)
ZPIracing
09-16-2005, 11:31 PM
RICAR.........
ScottsdaleTC
09-16-2005, 11:38 PM
That valve cover and strut bar may look purdy in blue :lalala:
Guess you're going to need another day, maybe the whole weekend?
More pics please... I'd even take a video of you looking at the motor at this point. :D
Sciond
09-17-2005, 04:57 AM
damn that looks awesome!
Short_Bus
09-17-2005, 05:06 AM
Looks great, good job
ScionDad
09-17-2005, 05:29 AM
Guess you're going to need that second day Hmmmm?
Guess you're going to need another day, maybe the whole weekend?
More pics please... I'd even take a video of you looking at the motor at this point. :D
Na guys, I'm finished. Took about another 2 hours to braid the lines, fix the carbon fiber engine cover and clock it....Then out driving it around....listening for any issues. All seems perfect at this point. Keep checking for any oil leaks or loosened up parts. All in all....certainly is a DIY job. 1 person can do it in 6 hours easy. I ran into issues with the auto lines and I'm particular about how things look.
This thing spools so dang fast it's sweet. Oh, and the BOV with the waste gate :rofl: Not the most quite car on the road for sure under WOT. :rofl:
I will also say it has improved the exhaust sound 100%. No boost take off and crusin...much deeper sound.
Then my daughter gets home from work at 9:30 and asks to take it out. Now I was crusin around for about a 1/2 hour. She brings it back at 10:30 and the dang CEL was on. She said it sounded like it backfired a few times. Off of full boost I suppose :tap: She just loves the BOV
I checked everything and all looked ok. I cleared the CEL and drove it for about a 1/2 hour on and off boost and no CEL and I didn't hear any backfire.
She asked me how to make it woosh at idle. As Kenny told me...no load no boost no woosh.
More pics tomorrow guys and I'll video some drive by's (in a parking lot). SOmeone just needs to tell my who can host them.
Dyltone
09-17-2005, 06:01 AM
20 MB limit but http://media.supload.com is where I put mine.
matty-tC
09-17-2005, 02:13 PM
nah man e-mail me the video and i'll host it without some ____ ad-ridden page
hadesannodomini@gmail.com
Marshall
09-17-2005, 04:12 PM
...I checked everything and all looked ok. I cleared the CEL and drove it for about a 1/2 hour on and off boost and no CEL and I didn't hear any backfire. How did you clear the Check Engine Light or is the ECU sensor still in its learning stage...?
mattssi
09-17-2005, 04:45 PM
I bought a obd2 scanner so I could clear the cel's as well as monitor the car's vitals. one of the best buys for sure.
Joey_WRX
09-17-2005, 05:43 PM
ScionDad, i can hose the videos for you, if need be.
-Joey
BreakTheStatic
09-17-2005, 11:41 PM
...I checked everything and all looked ok. I cleared the CEL and drove it for about a 1/2 hour on and off boost and no CEL and I didn't hear any backfire. How did you clear the Check Engine Light or is the ECU sensor still in its learning stage...?
I've only had the tC for a few months so I'm not sure if there are any other ways, but the simplest is to just disconnect the battery for a while. That'll clear the CEL for ya (as well as reset many other ecu settings.) Sciondad, you didn't have the code read, correct? You think it was just a backfire?
Joe_Dezod
09-17-2005, 11:48 PM
It could have been a cylinder misfire. I got those a lot with my civic when I went to colder plugs on the turbo setup.
mattssi
09-17-2005, 11:52 PM
Same here on the Lex. Some people upgraded their ignition, but mine didn't happen often at all
Whocares05050
09-18-2005, 12:28 AM
any more pics? it looks awesome by the way
DuMa
09-18-2005, 12:41 AM
we need videos now!
engifineer
09-18-2005, 01:51 AM
ScionDad, i can hose the videos for you, if need be.
-Joey
Living in MN, that is a hilarious typo :rofl:
DarkerShadZofRED
09-18-2005, 03:24 PM
I was thinking about getting the Stage 0 turbo for my tC... My only question is, what all do I need for it. My tc is auto and I was wondering what all I need besides the turbo. Like gauges or anything? I can't just have them throw a turbo in.... Kind of a noob to turbos :P
Joey_WRX
09-18-2005, 08:32 PM
ScionDad, i can hose the videos for you, if need be.
-Joey
Living in MN, that is a hilarious typo :rofl:
lol, oops. :P
mikek6789
09-18-2005, 11:50 PM
I was thinking about getting the Stage 0 turbo for my tC... My only question is, what all do I need for it. My tc is auto and I was wondering what all I need besides the turbo. Like gauges or anything? I can't just have them throw a turbo in.... Kind of a noob to turbos :P
transmission cooler, boost gauge, amd id get oil pressure just to be safe... egt to check if you are too lean too
mattssi
09-19-2005, 02:54 AM
a/f gauge for a/f ratios.... egt would be nice in addition.
ScionDad
09-19-2005, 01:49 PM
Sorry for the delay guys....my daughter worked all weekend and kept the car and I left the camera at work Friday when I left to finish up :doh: . We are going to the track this Friday night for a car show and drag race at Gateway International and she wants to run it. So, we will be able to video tape her runs.
Everything is running great on the car. No troubles at all and it performs and sounds outstanding. The support from ZPI was fantastic..... :bow:
I did blow out the wastegate gasket, so per Kenny (he said they are pretty cheap), I used hi temp gasket maker and seems to be holding great.
I explained to my daughter that she can't be at WOT and just let off the gas as it will cause the backfire from the fuel....so in the interest of saving the cat converter, don't do that. I will get more pics this evening for everyone since I got my camera today at work.
ZPIracing
09-19-2005, 02:58 PM
Thanks for the kind words. We hope that we made the install as easy as possible. We are glad that it performs as well you expected it to. .
Although we are a littke skeptical that you even have installed it as we have yet to hear a kill story or see a video?????
:doh:
Glad you like and again thanks for the support...
-Kenny
ScionDad
09-19-2005, 03:10 PM
Thanks for the kind words. We hope that we made the install as easy as possible. We are glad that it performs as well you expected it to. .
Although we are a littke skeptical that you even have installed it as we have yet to hear a kill story or see a video?????
:doh:
Glad you like and again thanks for the support...
-Kenny
Well, I think she killed a cat on her way home from work last night....does that count? :rofl: j/k
Thank you for a sweet product. It is everything you guys promised. WOT while getting on the highway is pure fun. By 3rd gear in the auto the pull is fantastic. You have to let off during 3rd because 4th gear is a for sure ticket gear.
ScionDad
09-19-2005, 04:21 PM
...I checked everything and all looked ok. I cleared the CEL and drove it for about a 1/2 hour on and off boost and no CEL and I didn't hear any backfire. How did you clear the Check Engine Light or is the ECU sensor still in its learning stage...?
I've only had the tC for a few months so I'm not sure if there are any other ways, but the simplest is to just disconnect the battery for a while. That'll clear the CEL for ya (as well as reset many other ecu settings.) Sciondad, you didn't have the code read, correct? You think it was just a backfire?
Yea. I think the problem is when you have it wide open and just let off, the fuel correction can't respond to it fast enough from full boost and the unspent fuel gets dumped...hits the cat and bang. Not doing that, she hasen't heard any more so that appears to be the issue.
matty-tC
09-19-2005, 04:26 PM
ohhhhh i can't wait for my auto tC-t :)
ScionDad
09-19-2005, 04:47 PM
ohhhhh i can't wait for my auto tC-t :)
Matty, with the head your working...you will love this turbo. Boost is crazy fast from a rolling punch. Launch from a dead stop is no different, but once boost is there, it stays :rofl:
matty-tC
09-19-2005, 05:14 PM
my accountant hates you and your boost lol
acasanova
09-19-2005, 05:24 PM
ohhhhh i can't wait for my auto tC-t :)
Matty, with the head your working...you will love this turbo. Boost is crazy fast from a rolling punch. Launch from a dead stop is no different, but once boost is there, it stays :rofl:
Wow good to be back after a week with no PC :) Damn Sciondad that setup looks truly marvelous!! So when are ya gonna post some vids? You do know that me Matt and the guys are gonna hound you all day till you post those vids.
:tap:
mattssi
09-19-2005, 05:32 PM
Torque Converter and you'll be stylin!
ScionDad
09-19-2005, 05:48 PM
ohhhhh i can't wait for my auto tC-t :)
Matty, with the head your working...you will love this turbo. Boost is crazy fast from a rolling punch. Launch from a dead stop is no different, but once boost is there, it stays :rofl:
Wow good to be back after a week with no PC :) Damn Sciondad that setup looks truly marvelous!! So when are ya gonna post some vids? You do know that me Matt and the guys are gonna hound you all day till you post those pics.
:tap:
I will get more pics tonight. Video will be Friday night at the track. I have to get the car from my daughter. All she does is drive around and woosh. Good for her, but bad for me...if one more guy shows up at my house to look under her hood....I'm kickin some A$$ :tap: :rofl:
Seriously, 3 guys came by yesterday at different times...and she was at work all day. I'm like WTF? One more fart can in my driveway I'm spreadin nails. :rofl:
apexjr
09-19-2005, 06:22 PM
...I checked everything and all looked ok. I cleared the CEL and drove it for about a 1/2 hour on and off boost and no CEL and I didn't hear any backfire. How did you clear the Check Engine Light or is the ECU sensor still in its learning stage...?
I've only had the tC for a few months so I'm not sure if there are any other ways, but the simplest is to just disconnect the battery for a while. That'll clear the CEL for ya (as well as reset many other ecu settings.) Sciondad, you didn't have the code read, correct? You think it was just a backfire?
Yea. I think the problem is when you have it wide open and just let off, the fuel correction can't respond to it fast enough from full boost and the unspent fuel gets dumped...hits the cat and bang. Not doing that, she hasen't heard any more so that appears to be the issue.
Yah that is basically it. When I am running without a CAT on the MR2 it will throw flames after WOT runs after 3rd just from the sheer amount of fuel and pig rich AFRs between gears. It could be leaner it sounds, as could my MR2, but as I figure an exhaust or cat is a hell of a lot cheaper and easier to replace/repair then a blown engine.
And SD, that is a phat install man!
ScionDad
09-19-2005, 06:32 PM
...I checked everything and all looked ok. I cleared the CEL and drove it for about a 1/2 hour on and off boost and no CEL and I didn't hear any backfire. How did you clear the Check Engine Light or is the ECU sensor still in its learning stage...?
I've only had the tC for a few months so I'm not sure if there are any other ways, but the simplest is to just disconnect the battery for a while. That'll clear the CEL for ya (as well as reset many other ecu settings.) Sciondad, you didn't have the code read, correct? You think it was just a backfire?
Yea. I think the problem is when you have it wide open and just let off, the fuel correction can't respond to it fast enough from full boost and the unspent fuel gets dumped...hits the cat and bang. Not doing that, she hasen't heard any more so that appears to be the issue.
Yah that is basically it. When I am running without a CAT on the MR2 it will throw flames after WOT runs after 3rd just from the sheer amount of fuel and pig rich AFRs between gears. It could be leaner it sounds, as could my MR2, but as I figure an exhaust or cat is a hell of a lot cheaper and easier to replace/repair then a blown engine.
And SD, that is a phat install man! How's the fit on the IC, do those pipes hang outside the bumper like other pictures we've seen?
Thanks. Yes, a new cat is much cheaper than replacing a solid hunk of aluminum engine block. :rofl: At this time, I'm not runnin an IC with the stage 0 yet. I did see a stage one that didn't hang out like that anymore from ZPI. So, that would probably be the way I go if I can't find a smaller one.
ZPIracing
09-19-2005, 06:37 PM
methanol injection....................I will put it on your tab
matty-tC
09-19-2005, 06:56 PM
stay sleeper and get some methanol :)
or A2WIC
BreakTheStatic
09-19-2005, 07:05 PM
What about manual cars. You gotta let off the gas to shift gears. Will that cause the backfiring/CEL codes?
matty-tC
09-19-2005, 07:21 PM
you would be better off asking that in the ZPI thread. this is specifically about sciondad's :)
ScionDad
09-19-2005, 07:48 PM
methanol injection....................I will put it on your tab
I do want to stay sleeper if I can. What HP will the Methanol add?
mattssi
09-19-2005, 07:59 PM
chart showed over 400lb/ft of torque!!
ScionDad
09-19-2005, 08:00 PM
chart showed over 400lb/ft of torque!!
:shock: Maybe water then :rofl:
matty-tC
09-19-2005, 08:27 PM
that was at higher boost with a different turbo :wink:
ScionDad
09-19-2005, 08:32 PM
that was at higher boost with a different turbo :wink:
Ah, that sounds better. I thought I heard Kenny say at one time it was a boost of about 40 whp. That might not be bad. I'm just a little concerned with the stock auto pushing over 300 whp. Maybe he was talkin alcohol
matty-tC
09-19-2005, 08:38 PM
well it basically allows you to not pull timing and boost safer (less chance of detonation)... the cooler charge does add power though
hell, add the methanol and crank the boost :)
DTRUONG_112
09-19-2005, 09:38 PM
so can I look under the hood too?
ScionDad
09-20-2005, 12:18 AM
A few more pics of the finished product (aside from some cosmetic hose). I ended up using a dremel for the carbon fiber cover....I think it looks original. :nails:
Wow how much did you have to trim from the cover? and do you have a close up of it. I think I'm gonna have to loose my strut bar that way i won't have to cut my cover up :nails: .
BrEaK_AwaY
09-20-2005, 12:23 AM
lookin good, very clean engine
matty-tC
09-20-2005, 12:29 AM
is your oil cap off? :)
ScionDad
09-20-2005, 12:32 AM
Wow how much did you have to trim from the cover? and do you have a close up of it. I think I'm gonna have to loose my strut bar that way i won't have to cut my cover up :nails: .
Here is a close up. I only removed about 1 inch angled up to the non-touching point.
where did you mount your light tube? and how long is it? 10"?
ScionDad
09-20-2005, 12:40 AM
where did you mount your light tube? and how long is it? 10"?
There are 3 of them. I mounted the 12" right on the plastic of the radiator shroud. Been there 6 months...spring summer. No problems. The other 2 are mounted right up under the qtr panel lip and those are 5 inch I believe. I got them from a sponsor on here scionspecialistvegas.
Munch
09-20-2005, 12:42 AM
You said you had to trim the pipe also correct. How much of that was cut off?
ScionDad
09-20-2005, 12:47 AM
You said you had to trim the pipe also correct. How much of that was cut off?
The pipe I ended up removing about 1.5 to 2 inches. Right now it's about 3/4" below the strut bar. I wanted to keep the strut bar more than the engine cover. One is bling the other is bling and function.
raamaudio
09-20-2005, 01:30 AM
I can attest to Methanol and water injection being great to use with a turbo. I was able to run 13PSI on my Matrix 1ZZ becuase of it with no issues whatsoever.
Originally I had the Aquamist basic system but it would continue to dump water into the charge pipe when the throttle was closed and when back on the gas I could generate some huge backfires, fun:)
I then went with a D2 system that was metered along with fuel delivery and the car ran better overall as well as fixed the big backfire issues.
Another problem the car had at 12-13PSI was losing spark and cutting out above 5,500 RPM, we installed some colder plugs but did not help much so I tried some copper plugs, I forget if one or two steps colder and it never missed a beat after that.
Platinum plugs may of worked as well but the Platinums just did not seem able to keep up.
From what I have seen here you guys are still running Platinums, correct?
Rick
Whocares05050
09-20-2005, 01:50 AM
Stock plugs are iridiums
raamaudio
09-20-2005, 01:53 AM
I know, I went through several Iridium heat ranges with the same issues. Dyno operator told me the boost was blowing out the spark and I needed to try copper plugs;)
True or not as to what was happening, the plugs definately fixed it:)
Rick
matty-tC
09-20-2005, 01:58 AM
note to f.i. newbs: coppers are better for boost but need to be changed more
thechick_zpi
09-20-2005, 03:18 AM
Scion DAD we are coming to the race this weekend....we are coming 4 boosted tC strong get us some races....Look forward to meeting you guys.
1 question how long did it take to wrap every hose in the engine bay?
lo_bux_racer
09-20-2005, 09:14 AM
note to f.i. newbs: coppers are better for boost but need to be changed more
That's odd. High boost Supras like iridium plugs. Maybe it's their 1960s combustion chamber technology (no, I'm not joking).
mattssi
09-20-2005, 11:06 AM
I had to change my plugs out for some cold iridium's too on the Lex w/ boost. Stock ones were iridiums too though, just not as cold
ScionDad
09-20-2005, 01:08 PM
Scion DAD we are coming to the race this weekend....we are coming 4 boosted tC strong get us some races....Look forward to meeting you guys.
1 question how long did it take to wrap every hose in the engine bay?
That sounds awsome. OMG, you guys are gonna have some fun with the Honda peeps. :rofl: I know none of them around here have seen a turbo TC and certainly nothing like yours. This is the last of the Midnight Madness weekends, so it will be loaded with lots of runners.
I use those hose kits. I remove the old hose, slide the wrap over, pull tight and tape each end and hose clamp back on. Some of them have the couplers. Pretty much the time is removing the hoses.
matty-tC
09-20-2005, 01:31 PM
note to f.i. newbs: coppers are better for boost but need to be changed more
That's odd. High boost Supras like iridium plugs. Maybe it's their 1960s combustion chamber technology (no, I'm not joking).
all the na->fi converts i've been around have been using -2 copper plugs with good luck.
i think the supras being fi from the factory have something to do with it
rhythmnsmoke
09-20-2005, 02:53 PM
Make sure you guys get some vid's man. I'm loving your engine bay SD.
tekniq
09-20-2005, 04:09 PM
THAT is beautiful ScionDad!! Congrats on making me insane with jealousy! ;)
ScionDad, i can hose the videos for you, if need be.
-Joey
Living in MN, that is a hilarious typo :rofl:
I was thinking the same thing, rofl..
Streeter
09-22-2005, 11:08 PM
Mine is coming with a JET HOT coating - hopefully it will look like THAT. 8)
-Keith-
09-22-2005, 11:49 PM
Looks off the hook... Congratz!
OliverThomas
09-23-2005, 12:10 AM
Is it me, or where the hell are all the vid's of these now-turbo'd tC's?
matty-tC
09-23-2005, 12:38 AM
they're too busy driving (or having their daughters drive around picking up dudes LOL)
Streeter
09-23-2005, 03:13 AM
they're too busy driving (or having their daughters drive around picking up dudes LOL)
sssshhh... not too loud - we don't want him to find out!
Me :lalala: _________________________________ :gun: ScionDad
I keed, I keed! :silly:
unlimited77
09-23-2005, 03:24 AM
^^^^ so true lol
matty-tC
09-23-2005, 05:01 AM
lol!
ScionDad
09-23-2005, 05:24 AM
:shock: What, not my daughter. :rofl: Thanks guys. Going to the track tomorrow night (praying for rain to not show up) and video. :pray:
I finally got the oil pressure gauge and oil temp hooked up tonight. Nice intstall with the oil filter block tap. Kinda nice to see whats going on. Wish I had it on there before turbo to see what was normal to what it's doing now with the turbo. Any NA guys have these for reference?
Dyltone
09-23-2005, 10:32 AM
Where did you mount the gauges? I'm still torchured on my gauge install. I'm ready to just drill them in to the piller ricer style... very frustrated right now.
BTW, thank you for all the nice words you have posted about my install. Your install is amazing and I can't wait to see the track video.
Munch
09-23-2005, 01:06 PM
:shock: What, not my daughter. :rofl: Thanks guys. Going to the track tomorrow night (praying for rain to not show up) and video. :pray:
I finally got the oil pressure gauge and oil temp hooked up tonight. Nice intstall with the oil filter block tap. Kinda nice to see whats going on. Wish I had it on there before turbo to see what was normal to what it's doing now with the turbo. Any NA guys have these for reference?
My oil temp peaks at about 223 degrees and the oil pressure is at 16-20 at idle when the car is warmed up.
ScionDad
09-23-2005, 01:12 PM
Where did you mount the gauges? I'm still torchured on my gauge install. I'm ready to just drill them in to the piller ricer style... very frustrated right now.
BTW, thank you for all the nice words you have posted about my install. Your install is amazing and I can't wait to see the track video.
I have the creative compact triple pillar mount.
No problem...your install looks fantastic. That thing will fly.
ScionDad
09-23-2005, 01:14 PM
:shock: What, not my daughter. :rofl: Thanks guys. Going to the track tomorrow night (praying for rain to not show up) and video. :pray:
I finally got the oil pressure gauge and oil temp hooked up tonight. Nice intstall with the oil filter block tap. Kinda nice to see whats going on. Wish I had it on there before turbo to see what was normal to what it's doing now with the turbo. Any NA guys have these for reference?
My oil temp peaks at about 223 degrees and the oil pressure is at 16-20 at idle when the car is warmed up.
Thanks Munch. SO far, the oil temp peaks about that temp which is good to know. The oil pressure however does make it down to 10 some times but usually sits about 15 to 20 PSI.
Munch
09-23-2005, 01:21 PM
:shock: What, not my daughter. :rofl: Thanks guys. Going to the track tomorrow night (praying for rain to not show up) and video. :pray:
I finally got the oil pressure gauge and oil temp hooked up tonight. Nice intstall with the oil filter block tap. Kinda nice to see whats going on. Wish I had it on there before turbo to see what was normal to what it's doing now with the turbo. Any NA guys have these for reference?
My oil temp peaks at about 223 degrees and the oil pressure is at 16-20 at idle when the car is warmed up.
Thanks Munch. SO far, the oil temp peaks about that temp which is good to know. The oil pressure however does make it down to 10 some times but usually sits about 15 to 20 PSI.
That's about right. Every car is gonna be alittle different .
xyouthx
09-23-2005, 01:22 PM
pics of the a pillar please! although im not a big fan of the a pillar gage idea, it seems the only option right now with tC's so i'd like to see pics installed, other than on creativecompact.com's site.
Munch
09-23-2005, 01:25 PM
pics of the a pillar please! although im not a big fan of the a pillar gage idea, it seems the only option right now with tC's so i'd like to see pics installed, other than on creativecompact.com's site.
:shock: What, not my daughter. :rofl: Thanks guys. Going to the track tomorrow night (praying for rain to not show up) and video. :pray:
I finally got the oil pressure gauge and oil temp hooked up tonight. Nice intstall with the oil filter block tap. Kinda nice to see whats going on. Wish I had it on there before turbo to see what was normal to what it's doing now with the turbo. Any NA guys have these for reference?
My oil temp peaks at about 223 degrees and the oil pressure is at 16-20 at idle when the car is warmed up.
Thanks Munch. SO far, the oil temp peaks about that temp which is good to know. The oil pressure however does make it down to 10 some times but usually sits about 15 to 20 PSI.
When you have been driving the car around for a while especially under hard boost and come to a stop and idle for a while are you burning off extra oil at all?? On my xB when I would stop after running for a while, i would start to burn oil off the turbo and out the exhaust. I had to put a restrictor to the turbo oil feed line and a gauge off the filter block just to regulate the oil psi to the turbo to keep it from smoking at idle. Too much oil to the turbo and you will blow out your seals. This is very common on the T20 and T25 turbo, just was wondering if you were getting the same from the 16G...I believe turbos like to see around 30 psi, anything more than that is just gonna do long term damage.
ScionDad
09-23-2005, 06:44 PM
:shock: What, not my daughter. :rofl: Thanks guys. Going to the track tomorrow night (praying for rain to not show up) and video. :pray:
I finally got the oil pressure gauge and oil temp hooked up tonight. Nice intstall with the oil filter block tap. Kinda nice to see whats going on. Wish I had it on there before turbo to see what was normal to what it's doing now with the turbo. Any NA guys have these for reference?
My oil temp peaks at about 223 degrees and the oil pressure is at 16-20 at idle when the car is warmed up.
Thanks Munch. SO far, the oil temp peaks about that temp which is good to know. The oil pressure however does make it down to 10 some times but usually sits about 15 to 20 PSI.
When you have been driving the car around for a while especially under hard boost and come to a stop and idle for a while are you burning off extra oil at all?? On my xB when I would stop after running for a while, i would start to burn oil off the turbo and out the exhaust. I had to put a restrictor to the turbo oil feed line and a gauge off the filter block just to regulate the oil psi to the turbo to keep it from smoking at idle. Too much oil to the turbo and you will blow out your seals. This is very common on the T20 and T25 turbo, just was wondering if you were getting the same from the 16G...I believe turbos like to see around 30 psi, anything more than that is just gonna do long term damage.
No, haven't noticed any smoking at all. But I will certainly keep an eye out for that. Thanks for the heads up.
Simplyscion
09-23-2005, 06:49 PM
No prob...its a simple solution if you do run into the problem, lemme know, I might even have an extra restrictor lying around but you would just hafta go and buy a cheap gauge to monitor the psi going to the turbo.
jlaznlover
09-24-2005, 02:28 PM
any vid's from last night? :nails:
ZPIracing
09-24-2005, 02:49 PM
Oil pressure feeding a turbo is not biggest problem as to why people blow the seals. A lot of time when you add a resistor or they use small hole fittings this actually increase the oil pressure it just lowers the volume. The key is to mate it with the right size return line.
Most people use a small oil return line and the oil can not drain quick enough. It is pressure coming in a gravity taking it out. IF you use a -4 line feeding it you need to use a -10 to drain if you use this you will never have a problem of over oiling the turbo
deep2k
09-25-2005, 05:41 PM
what brand gagues are in that pillar?? and where are the vids from the track?? thats all I was looking forward today at work was to watch the tc whoop on some cars at the track
-Keith-
09-25-2005, 05:58 PM
They kind of look like stewart warner gauges
Munch
09-25-2005, 07:49 PM
They kind of look like stewart warner gauges
Nope they are Nordskog Street Series Digital Gauges
ScionDad
09-26-2005, 02:26 PM
any vid's from last night? :nails:
No, we got there a little late (daughter on time? :rofl: ). She watched a few cars run and decided she didn't want to do it. She was concerned she would look funny in her little TC with all those muscle cars. Everyone was trying to talk her into it, but she said nope. Then we left shortly after that as the drunk rednecks were making comments about throwing bottles and keying the imports (about 60 Scions) all lined up.
So, Saturday morning my brother called her and told her he would take her over there this Wednesday to the Test and Tune runs and show her how to do it and make some timed runs. They are set to go and I'll video. One way or another, we will get some vids
engifineer
09-26-2005, 02:54 PM
any vid's from last night? :nails:
No, we got there a little late (daughter on time? :rofl: ). She watched a few cars run and decided she didn't want to do it. She was concerned she would look funny in her little TC with all those muscle cars. Everyone was trying to talk her into it, but she said nope. Then we left shortly after that as the drunk rednecks were making comments about throwing bottles and keying the imports (about 60 Scions) all lined up.
So, Saturday morning my brother called her and told her he would take her over there this Wednesday to the Test and Tune runs and show her how to do it and make some timed runs. They are set to go and I'll video. One way or another, we will get some vids
Some people are hilarious... "Lets go bash us some imports".. "yeah, good idea jo bob", then we can drive home in my "American" car (filled with Japanese parts), watch the game on my Sony tv and talk about why some guy filled del-ray full o lead just for throwing the beer bottle" :rofl:
brent
09-26-2005, 03:01 PM
very nice lets see it installed :bow: :clap:
ScionDad
09-26-2005, 03:05 PM
any vid's from last night? :nails:
No, we got there a little late (daughter on time? :rofl: ). She watched a few cars run and decided she didn't want to do it. She was concerned she would look funny in her little TC with all those muscle cars. Everyone was trying to talk her into it, but she said nope. Then we left shortly after that as the drunk rednecks were making comments about throwing bottles and keying the imports (about 60 Scions) all lined up.
So, Saturday morning my brother called her and told her he would take her over there this Wednesday to the Test and Tune runs and show her how to do it and make some timed runs. They are set to go and I'll video. One way or another, we will get some vids
Some people are hilarious... "Lets go bash us some imports".. "yeah, good idea jo bob", then we can drive home in my "American" car (filled with Japanese parts), watch the game on my Sony tv and talk about why some guy filled del-ray full o lead just for throwing the beer bottle" :rofl:
Yea, I was a little concerned when I seen 4 drunk guys swinging a key chain full of keys as they were walking from Scion to Scion going in between them.
Simplyscion
09-26-2005, 03:49 PM
very nice lets see it installed :bow: :clap:
Go and check the first couple pages of the thead...there is plent of pics
engifineer
09-26-2005, 04:04 PM
any vid's from last night? :nails:
No, we got there a little late (daughter on time? :rofl: ). She watched a few cars run and decided she didn't want to do it. She was concerned she would look funny in her little TC with all those muscle cars. Everyone was trying to talk her into it, but she said nope. Then we left shortly after that as the drunk rednecks were making comments about throwing bottles and keying the imports (about 60 Scions) all lined up.
So, Saturday morning my brother called her and told her he would take her over there this Wednesday to the Test and Tune runs and show her how to do it and make some timed runs. They are set to go and I'll video. One way or another, we will get some vids
Some people are hilarious... "Lets go bash us some imports".. "yeah, good idea jo bob", then we can drive home in my "American" car (filled with Japanese parts), watch the game on my Sony tv and talk about why some guy filled del-ray full o lead just for throwing the beer bottle" :rofl:
Yea, I was a little concerned when I seen 4 drunk guys swinging a key chain full of keys as they were walking from Scion to Scion going in between them.
I think those types of people were exactly what the makers of the .40 had in mind :P
jk...... but a good @$$ kicking would probably do them some good! It will really pi$$ them off when a boosted 4-banger eats thier lunch for them on the track!
xyouthx
09-27-2005, 01:48 PM
gages look good, excited to see her at the track.....the car that is...any pics of your daughter?? just kididng :P
ZPIracing
09-27-2005, 01:53 PM
The V8 owners where just upset they heard the tC would run low 14's and the 5.0 was in trouble of losing. Then they found out it was drove by a girl? I would be mad to if I got 8mpg and got rolled up at the track by a SKYon
ScionDad
09-27-2005, 02:18 PM
The V8 owners where just upset they heard the tC would run low 14's and the 5.0 was in trouble of losing. Then they found out it was drove by a girl? I would be mad to if I got 8mpg and got rolled up at the track by a SKYon
I love it...now that's funny. I will say I'm very impressed with the pull this car now has. You guys delivered aces :bow:
ScionDad
09-27-2005, 02:40 PM
gages look good, excited to see her at the track.....the car that is...any pics of your daughter?? just kididng :P
Yea, the blue gauges look sweet. I liked how they turned out.
As for my daughter, yup, she is a cutie and very intelligent. She also has a Black Belt in TKD and Purple in Sambo.....I'll just say she has very little patience for being pushed around like a girl. I'm 6' 185lbs and she gives me a run for my money in full contact sparring. I laugh (much later) sometimes when she acts all girlie like I hurt her, then a foot upside my face and taunts me as my nose bleeds. :tap:
She is the one in the middle. Funny, when she won best of show, the ladies announcing the winner saw her step up....they started cheering and chanting "Chicks Rule". Then she wanted to know where the guy models were. :doh:
aarontrini85
09-27-2005, 02:58 PM
gages look good, excited to see her at the track.....the car that is...any pics of your daughter?? just kididng :P
Yea, the blue gauges look sweet. I liked how they turned out.
As for my daughter, yup, she is a cutie and very intelligent. She also has a Black Belt in TKD and Purple in Sambo.....I'll just say she has very little patience for being pushed around like a girl. I'm 6' 185lbs and she gives me a run for my money in full contact sparring. I laugh (much later) sometimes when she acts all girlie like I hurt her, then a foot upside my face and taunts me as my nose bleeds. :tap:
She is the one in the middle. Funny, when she won best of show, the ladies announcing the winner saw her step up....they started cheering and chanting "Chicks Rule". Then she wanted to know where the guy models were. :doh:
sounds like you and your daughter do alot together thats cool
yesti
09-27-2005, 06:54 PM
sciondad, will you adopt me? LOL!
Streeter
09-27-2005, 08:12 PM
Eligible bachelor / Scion owner here... :lalala:
<--- senior pic (just kidding - not me!!)
:silly:
ScionDad
09-27-2005, 08:30 PM
Eligible bachelor / Scion owner here... :lalala:
<--- senior pic (just kidding - not me!!)
:silly:
:rofl:
matty-tC
09-27-2005, 09:03 PM
damn i always thought that WAS you LOL
Simplyscion
09-27-2005, 09:50 PM
I would love to be your future son in law :P I was gonna say, I make a lot of money selling Scions and I can get you a discount on your parts. :lalala:
All kidding aside, you have a beautiful daughter, watch out for the shady guys, well hell she can beat their a$$es anyway on her own :rofl:
Streeter
09-27-2005, 11:25 PM
damn i always thought that WAS you LOL
Well, for what it's worth - if I could rock a hot red fro like that - I probably would. 8)
xyouthx
09-28-2005, 01:40 AM
holy jesus!! i visited st. louis twice already this year and i think i must again!! what do you say? family dinner and a movie and we'll exchange stage 0 stories! :love:
Fm_Tc_In_Ma
09-28-2005, 01:24 PM
holy jesus!! i visited st. louis twice already this year and i think i must again!! what do you say? family dinner and a movie and we'll exchange stage 0 stories! :love:
Stories better be the ONLY thing you plan on exchanging with his daughter.
ScionDad
09-28-2005, 01:36 PM
holy jesus!! i visited st. louis twice already this year and i think i must again!! what do you say? family dinner and a movie and we'll exchange stage 0 stories! :love:
Stories better be the ONLY thing you plan on exchanging with his daughter.
Yup, I'm just a little more aggressive than she is. I've trained in 3 disciplines since 1990. I could get very little time for temp insanity :rofl:
rhythmnsmoke
09-28-2005, 07:31 PM
holy jesus!! i visited st. louis twice already this year and i think i must again!! what do you say? family dinner and a movie and we'll exchange stage 0 stories! :love:
Stories better be the ONLY thing you plan on exchanging with his daughter.
Yup, I'm just a little more aggressive than she is. I've trained in 3 disciplines since 1990. I could get very little time for temp insanity :rofl:
Not to get off topic, but if I'm ever in the MO area, I will no who to contact when I feel like getting a little sparring session. 11 year Martial Arts practioner here. I will spar with anybody.
ScionDad
09-28-2005, 08:25 PM
holy jesus!! i visited st. louis twice already this year and i think i must again!! what do you say? family dinner and a movie and we'll exchange stage 0 stories! :love:
Stories better be the ONLY thing you plan on exchanging with his daughter.
Yup, I'm just a little more aggressive than she is. I've trained in 3 disciplines since 1990. I could get very little time for temp insanity :rofl:
Not to get off topic, but if I'm ever in the MO area, I will no who to contact when I feel like getting a little sparring session. 11 year Martial Arts practioner here. I will spar with anybody.
No problem, shoot me a pm if you're heading up sometime. Access to just about any format equipment you prefer.
rhythmnsmoke
09-28-2005, 08:58 PM
No problem, shoot me a pm if you're heading up sometime. Access to just about any format equipment you prefer.
Cool. I have gear though. A set of Jeet Kune Do gloves and some century footpads. I don't use anything else to spar with. Headgear makes me sweat more than what I already do....lol.
PS...where is that dog-gonit vid?
Simplyscion
09-28-2005, 09:04 PM
yea Sciondad...hows the car running the past couple days?? You bogging down at all while @ WOT or full boost?? Do you have a OBD II scanner w/ diagnostics to check your fuel trim??
JohnnyBlazed
09-28-2005, 11:25 PM
Sciondad.. ummm I'm going to say this as nice as possible. Your daughter is F'in Bueatiful :love: Umm I'm 20, I'll have a 06'scion with a turbo paid for in full =) and I have a 2 year tour in Iraq under my belt ( trying to show my acomplishments :rofl: ) can I marry her :bow: :pray: On the other note, hows the turbo running? Would you recommend an Intercooler ? I'm asking because I have a month left till I get to come home :eyebrow: and I ordered the Car recently, should be there for me, the turbo should also be at my doorstep befor I get home, and well I won't have an intercooler setup for at least a month after that since I'll get a performance shop to build it.
ScionDad
09-29-2005, 02:17 PM
Sciondad.. ummm I'm going to say this as nice as possible. Your daughter is F'in Bueatiful :love: Umm I'm 20, I'll have a 06'scion with a turbo paid for in full =) and I have a 2 year tour in Iraq under my belt ( trying to show my acomplishments :rofl: ) can I marry her :bow: :pray: On the other note, hows the turbo running? Would you recommend an Intercooler ? I'm asking because I have a month left till I get to come home :eyebrow: and I ordered the Car recently, should be there for me, the turbo should also be at my doorstep befor I get home, and well I won't have an intercooler setup for at least a month after that since I'll get a performance shop to build it.
Well, I will start by saying thanks for your service in our military. :clap: It is truely appreciated. :bow:
Her boyfriend might have an issue with the marriage proposal, but I wouldn't be shocked it's not the first time that's happened :rofl:
Right now, I don't have an intercooler on the stage 0. Not because I don't want one (it would cool things down a bit), but because I can't find a stealth one. I don't want to see the pipes and paint the thing black. That is an excellent idea to have a shop fab a FMIC for ya, might be the route I have to take.
RacingSolution
09-30-2005, 01:31 AM
leg humpers.. lol
Acsilva84
09-30-2005, 03:05 AM
great setup!! Just really really really wanna see a vid! and question? how much wear and tear do you think the stage 0 kit will put on the car? will it really affect the longevity of the motor or car itself?
Acsilva84
09-30-2005, 07:14 AM
... oh and where did you get your engine sleeve kit form? do you have a link by anychance?
DuMa
09-30-2005, 08:02 AM
videos stat!
ScionDad
09-30-2005, 01:01 PM
... oh and where did you get your engine sleeve kit form? do you have a link by anychance?
No link, but I just bought the kit from one of the local auto parts stores. AutoZone I believe.
Dyltone
09-30-2005, 06:24 PM
Right now, I don't have an intercooler on the stage 0. Not because I don't want one (it would cool things down a bit), but because I can't find a stealth one. I don't want to see the pipes and paint the thing black. That is an excellent idea to have a shop fab a FMIC for ya, might be the route I have to take.
The FMIC I have will mount upside down without too much trouble, but you would need to get all other piping custom bent and it would be 100% stealth. ZPI did PoizenTC's FMIC like that.
deep2k
10-03-2005, 12:17 PM
where the vid??
just bored at work need something to watch over and over
vanberge
10-03-2005, 06:38 PM
sciondad,
that tc is literally the sexiest thing i have ever seen.