I've been told that the hotchkis sway bars (front and rear) need stronger endlinks...
Anyone try beefier ones & know where to purchase them? :ponder:

Make them. Couple of heims (regular and reverse), and internally threaded hex for the body of the links. You could source all the parts from a circle track supplier, or any good hardware jpint, like McMaster. They'll look like this, only well, smaller. :P
http://www.jeepxtremes.com/images/RODX1.JPG

Hm...Looks like drama :relief:

doc i makes it sound so simple doesnt he?

Dont worry R2d2. I am here to help you out. Here is the name you have been waiting for. The company is Ingalls. We are making new rear strut bra that has the braces needed to work(not just a bar), front strut bar, engine torque dampner, 4point brace for front subframe, front and rear sways WITH NEW LINKS and Springs with a level even drop. PM ME FOR MORE INFO

i want more info on the front sway bar, and rear strut bar.. make a new thread and spill your guts on al of this

I cant just yet. i will post a link for anyone to see what kind of ideas this company has instore for the whole sport compact scene not just Scion

http://www.ingallseng.com/

progress comes with their own endlinks for their sway bars but its not any beefier. just adjustable. but should provide alot more strength than the stock rear ones. those are just flimsy as hell

progress comes with their own endlinks for their sway bars but its not any beefier. just adjustable. but should provide alot more strength than the stock rear ones. those are just flimsy as hell

Progress or Hotchkis sways?

if u got the dough,
hotchkis sways with the progress endlinks

I will NOT pay $340 to get a "stiffy" :no:

ingalls makes good stuff. when do we get details on the sways?

You wont have to. It will be about half of that price if not lower

if u got the dough,
hotchkis sways with the progress endlinks

Meaning both need to be purchased so the different pieces can be utilized? Cause I don't think they sell "only" progress endlinks...

My driver side enlink just broke on my car.

Is there anyway I can purchase new sturdier endlinks rather than going to the dealer?

Went to the dealer today and they wanted to charge me $72 for the left side endlink.

I'm down to purchase an aftermarket endlink from someone if possible

My driver side enlink just broke on my car.

Is there anyway I can purchase new sturdier endlinks rather than going to the dealer?

Went to the dealer today and they wanted to charge me $72 for the left side endlink.

I'm down to purchase an aftermarket endlink from someone if possible

Which swaybars are u runnin?

Why are you buying a warrrantied part?

Where did it break?

What were you doing when it broke?

It's a 10mm solid mild steel rod. That's pretty strong for both compression and tension (the two modes in which it works).

R2D2
Which swaybars are u runnin?


I am running the Hotchkis Sway Set Front and Rear


lo_bux_racer
Why are you buying a warrrantied part?

Where did it break?

What were you doing when it broke?


I haven't bought the endlink yet. I just went to the dealership to see how much it would run me. The nut that was screwed on isn't there anymore and I've tried to find the right nut for it and I can't seem to find the right size. The bottom part of the endlink is broken because all the grease is goo-ing out. So I figured it was time to replace both endlinks with aftermarket products if anyone makes some.

Do you know of anyone who makes any aftermarket endlinks?

Need to find sum progress endlinx... :ponder:

Do you know where I can go to look for some?

I haven't bought the endlink yet. I just went to the dealership to see how much it would run me. The nut that was screwed on isn't there anymore and I've tried to find the right nut for it and I can't seem to find the right size. The bottom part of the endlink is broken because all the grease is goo-ing out. So I figured it was time to replace both endlinks with aftermarket products if anyone makes some.

Do you know of anyone who makes any aftermarket endlinks?

OK, the grease is gooing out because it's flexing a lot more than it should. It doesn't mean it's broken. Is the stud in good shape or is it beat up? The nut is available from Toyco, if its for the front it's a 10 x 1.25 (typical Japanese thread, European is more common, it's 10 x 1.5). I'd spend a buck on a new nut before I'd drop a lot of money on end links.

I'm planning to do something for the fronts, I just need to talk to my buddy with the machine shop before I say anything about it. You'll still need the stock pieces though, just because it's hard to find sealed ball joints with the kind of capacity the OEM pieces have in the aftermarket. That is unless someone has a connection to a manufacturer/distributor???

Hm... with all these endlink/sway bar issues, could it be the sway bars themselves?
Could it be the flex on the different curvatures..?
After lookin @ whats available...
http://www.racingsolution.com/Images%5Ctchotchkissways.jpg
http://www.racingsolution.com/Images%5Ctc_trd_swaybars.jpg
http://www.racingsolution.com/Images%5CProgressSway.jpg
Possible...
Endlinx are a pain findin though...anyone else with any luck?

endlinks on hotchkis sway bars?

sounds lik trouble of being OVERLY stiff to me.
but i can be wrong. someone test this out and share.

try contacting progress about buying endlinks

Ive had the Hotchkis sways for about 10,000 miles without any problems at all.

UPDATE

I took a look at the end links on my Supra over the weekend. It has a 35mm front swaybar. Much larger than the tC or the Hotchkis. It has 8mm rod end links and 8mm studs. I'm going to install the end links from the '96 Camry rear and see how they work. The only drawback is the 10mm holes and the 8mm studs, but that's not a big issue in many ways. Hitting the swaybar with the tie rod end in a parking lot seems to be more than annoying.

my friend is running front and rear hotchkis sway bars and his endlinks just broke. he tried calling progress about buying the endlinks separately and he said they were an ___ and said he shouldve bought progress sway bar instead.

anyway is there an aftermarket endlink solution yet other than progress?


i am too thinking that the hotchkis sway bars are 50/50 defective. it can work depending if the installer does it correctly. but whoever installed the sway bars for my friend overtorqued the endlinks and broke the the internal stud inside the endlink.

So, it seems progress sways are making people happier I take it?

I'm still running the '96 Camry end links (the small diameter ones) and they've performed just fine despite some severe beatings. If you overtorque anything it will break. That's installer error, not the fault of the sway or the endlink. If you use a torque wrench, these things don't happen.

I have Tein SS-P's installed and finally managed to install my Hotchkis Sway Bars about 2 weeks ago. I purchased '03 Camry front sway end links. They're shorter than the tC end links, but they're still 10 mm in diameter.

I've driven the car hard on day of install and a couple times every week around winding back roads. I've checked everything each time and so far, everything is fine. No unexpected sounds or problems. Hopefully it'll stay that way. :pray:

We just cut and shortened the front links, on the rear cut, shortend and altered the orentation to match up better. We have some very serious roads around here and I have driven some quite agressively, not a problem with the stock ones yet:)

Once we get a few more things done like relocate the battery, etc, we are going to check the end links for preload, with me in the car, and make further adjustments as required so no preload.

Probably going to do something like Lance alluded to, weld on some couplings, etc, so we can have them adjustable next.

Rick

so are the progress endlinks any good?

They probably are, since Hotchkis does not make sways for the Mazda 3 my daughter is buying I will probably go for a progress bar and check out their end links as well, progress is a good company from what I have seen.

Rick

someone said they were using the 03 camrey front end links with tien ss-p any one have the part numbers for these . to raamaudio if you guys could make some adj front and rear endlinks i would be interested in buying some.

Intersting idea, we are not a suspension company but working with a couple that do different things, one does bushings, one does springs and coilovers, etc. I have to ensure no conflicts of interest due to my involvement with certain companies. There is a possiblity of getting somebody to make these for us specifically and I could be the GB guy I suppose, will see what I can work out.

I am also working with somebody on custom eurathane suspension bushings for our car, if going to that much trouble maybe they would like to make them available to all of us:)

Rick

Are the camry endlinks only used for the front sway? is there any upgrades to use for the rear swaybar endlinks?

sounds great i would love a urathane bushing kit for my car if you come up with any info on the endlinks keep me poasted

i've broken endlinks on my car with the hotchkis sways. :tap: luckily i had someone hook me up with one cuz he got the progress and didn't need his stockies anymore. :P

someone said they were using the 03 camrey front end links with tien ss-p any one have the part numbers for these . to raamaudio if you guys could make some adj front and rear endlinks i would be interested in buying some.


i got mine from www.car-stuff.com for about $50 (both left and right front links), part #L1030-140415

here's a direct link:
http://replacement.car-stuff.com/parts/carstuff/quote.jsp?year=2003&product=L1030-140415&application=000712207&part=Sway%20Bar%20Link&category=L&returnurl=null&dp=false&showdc=true#top

Any update on Hotchkis front sway issues?

Yeah i just bought the Hotchkis front and rear sways desipite what i've seen on this thread. Anyone have an update on the endlink issue? Also for the people running '03 camery endlinks, would you say they are stronger than the ones that come with the Hotchkis bars? should the Hotchkis endlinks be discarded right off the bat? as a rule i try not to drive my car into the ground, but i dont want the endlinks breaking with just the occasional aggressive driving.

the hotchkis does not come with endlink's you have to use the factory endlink's. the hotchkis bar is very stiff compared to factory and i think that is why they are snapping and breaking. what we need is somethink that is adjustable and stronger than stock endlink's. the camry link's are a little shorter if i am correct

oh i get it now. hm... that sucks. and it seems like they dont make 03 camery rear endlinks huh. why doesnt Hotchkis just make a set of good endlinks that work with their bars and wont snap???? i would even pay for these to ensure that they dont break. Hotchkis whats going on, your sitting on a product that people will buy? :doh: and from what ive seen in this thread, it doesnt seem to hard to make them.....whats the deal?