what ever happened to rwd cars its like every car out is fwd a new impala ss has a 300 hp and is fwd they used to be rwd. fwd cars make cars nose heavy. someone explain this to me

Thats exactly why. Nose heavy = better in the snow most of the time. The weight of the engine help the front wheels get traction when in bad weather conditions. Also a FWD car, is cheaper to produce then a RWD. Last, a FWD does not need a big drive shaft hump cutting into interior space. Its all about what works these days & FWD is the thing. RWD seems to be a luxy option for most cars these days.

So far, every BMW is either rwd or awd. I dont think they have ever produced a fwd car. The germans must know something that all the rest of them dont. lol

Because the number of people who don't care which wheels are driving the car is far greater than the number of people who do care. Also, packaging and costs.

So far, every BMW is either rwd or awd. I dont think they have ever produced a fwd car. The germans must know something that all the rest of them dont. lol

Ah yes, but when was the last time you saw a brand new 0 milage BMW with a MSRP of $16,000? :lalala:

not unless you are in europe bmw make the 1 series which will about as much as a civic si

Ah, but the Chrysler brands are bringing back rwd. The 300 and Magnums come in either rwd or awd. I believe the new Charger too.

Part of the front wheel drive, drive has to do with weight as well. Less weight, easier to meet CAFE standards.

What about the Ford 500 and its Mercury sister? Are they rear and all? Or are they front and all?

One of my requirements was front drive at a minimum. Live on a hill in sometime snowy country. AWD would have been nice, but up front cost and fuel mileage negated the benefit.

If any company put out a economy FR car it would sell so well because of the drifting craze going on.

the mini is made by bmw and it is a fwd.

I am aware Mini is made by BMW but the motor was a BMW/Chrystler product until recently BMW only is going to stat making the motors. Something like that. But its not the BMW cooper its the Mini Cooper. LOL :silly:

I am aware Mini is made by BMW but the motor was a BMW/Chrystler product until recently BMW only is going to stat making the motors. Something like that. But its not the BMW cooper its the Mini Cooper. LOL :silly:

Yeah, and you don't drive a toyota tC, you drive a scion tC.. wtf is the differance? :loser:

I am aware Mini is made by BMW but the motor was a BMW/Chrystler product until recently BMW only is going to stat making the motors. Something like that. But its not the BMW cooper its the Mini Cooper. LOL :silly:

Yeah, and you don't drive a toyota tC, you drive a scion tC.. wtf is the differance? :loser:

In that case, there is no difference.

In the case of say, looking at some of the bigger companies. Ford & say Jags. At one point in time, there where 2 different compaines going down there own road, then Ford bought up the shares to Jag & there is not much difference now. Its not like Ford created the brand Jag, it was already around. So saying a mini is a BMW, is not really the same. Yes BMW bought the mini brand, but it was still a brand before it was bought.

All the pieces of the MINI are stamped with BMW marks

but you wouldn't know that would ya?

All the pieces of the MINI are stamped with BMW marks

but you wouldn't know that would ya?

:clap: some good info, but I will still look at the name Mini as being apart from BMW & the name cooper being owned by BMW.

Well I don't know if BMW would ever come out with a FWD car that was an actual "BMW". My point was that it may be a possibility since they have used their tech in the mini cooper brand.

BMW German (Not so Bright)
SCION Japan (Bright)
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Japan=Smarter <-----ANSWER

I disagree Wreck

BMW German (not so reliable)

SCION Japan (reliable)

ok that too!....lol

About the MINI. The Mini was already on the drawing board when the Rover group went belly up. BMW stepped in and bought controlling shares, looked at the project, made a couple of changes, and said GO. The car has nothing to do with Germany. The original engine came from Brazil and the new one is outsourced from Peugot in France. The initial quality was not to high but has improved. Where I live used Mini's bring an unreal used car price far over what they are worth.

About the MINI. The Mini was already on the drawing board when the Rover group went belly up. BMW stepped in and bought controlling shares, looked at the project, made a couple of changes, and said GO. The car has nothing to do with Germany. The original engine came from Brazil and the new one is outsourced from Peugot in France. The initial quality was not to high but has improved. Where I live used Mini's bring an unreal used car price far over what they are worth.

Actually, the worth is whatever the buyer and the seller agree on. It may not be worth it to you, but it apparently is to someone(s).

Simple. FWD is easier to package and allows for roomier interiors, its cheaper to build and offers better traction in poor weather. It also eliminates the problem of dangerous understeer which can get inexperienced/average drivers into trouble at the traction limit.

It's alot more practical than RWD. RWD advantage is handling in performance driving and no torque steer, but most people don't drive that way and economy cars certainly aren't intended for it.

It doesn't make alot of sense from a business standpoint for Toyota to make the xb, xa or tc RWD since they have ready-made FWD drivetrains in spades and most people who buy them either don't care, or actually prefer FWD. You have to see it from their standpoint. They aren't Chrysler or BMW. Different customer base. People who need a Hemi to feel like a man don't buy Scions with 1.5 liter engines.

what ever happened to rwd cars its like every car out is fwd a new impala ss has a 300 hp and is fwd they used to be rwd. fwd cars make cars nose heavy. someone explain this to me

Incidentally, the xB actually has a pretty good front to rear weight distribution for a FWD car. I'd be willing to bet it's close to the same as the old RWD throwback Impala you're talking about, maybe better.

There have always been enthusiasts who prefer RWD and for some good reasons, but it seems like everybody and their little brother has jumped on the RWD bandwagon now, _____ing about FWD when more than half of them probably can't even tell you the pros and cons of either one--- not accusing you of that dude, I'm just saying in general its pretty annoying to people who know something about cars. There are FWD cars with fantastic handling and well sorted suspensions and there are lots of RWD cars with sloppy handling. It's not the be all to end all people think it is.

All that said, would I prefer a RWD xB to a FWD one? Yep, probably would, but only because I live in Florida now and because I am confident in my driving abilities. If I lived up north with snow and icy rain I'd take FWD every time for my daily driver and I would never buy a new driver, like a son or daughter a RWD car. I wouldn't want my Mom to have a RWD car either, because I know something about cars and I know that for the average driver a RWD car is much more dangerous and hard to control in a slide or a panic situation.

It also eliminates the problem of dangerous understeer which can get inexperienced/average drivers into trouble at the traction limit.



Actually, a FWD car has more understeer and it's oversteer that is dangerous in inexperienced hands. Oversteer makes the back end want to slide out.

Other than that, I think your comments are dead-on.

my mistake, I always get those two definitions crossed up. ;)

I always think of it as a circle. If your steering was just right you could drive in a perfect circle. When you get understeer, you have less ability to hold it to the circle and you'll swing wide with the front end leading the way out. When you have oversteer, you can steer it even tighter than the perfect circle, but the force makes the back end want to slide out.

Got ya.

I understand how they both work and which is which, what I meant to say is I used the wrong one in the sentence. :)