no this isnt a release date thread more of some info

i saw one of these things on a tc at exposed this weekedn and it didnt impress me at all toyota had numbers posted on it and i took pics ill post them tonight when i get home it said

200hp
175ftlb tourq

at 7 psi (none adjustible) that meens they wont release any pully kits them self i guess

also i heared it when they loaded it back up on the trailer it sounded like a vacume lol just constant suction even at idel nothin i would want but i didnt get a video of that sorry

but like i said i will post pics once i get home tonight

7psi and it's only a 40HP/15Tq gain!!! They must have that thing tuned like sh!t. 7psi, that thing should be putting down 230whp on a stock ECU!

i think its more lik 2-3 psi then 7 hahah

i think its more lik 2-3 psi then 7 hahah

yeah i know lol but i hope they are being conservitive as hell lol i didnt think s/c are that mutch more parasitic then turbos

Maybe the horsepower is at the wheels...but damn, a 30+HP parasitic loss from runnning the S/C?!

WOW! you are right that is insane. Still, I am talking it all with a grain of salt. When it is actually released is when I will make my decision.

WOW! you are right that is insane. Still, I am talking it all with a grain of salt. When it is actually released is when I will make my decision.


i would to if i were you maybe there just under rating the hell out of it but only time will tell

Maybe the horsepower is at the wheels...but damn, a 30+HP parasitic loss from runnning the S/C?!

compressor efficiency. charge temp, and tune could do that alone.

I wouldnt get it but cant say that til it comes out...

It can't be all that inefficient as the compressor is a turbo compressor hooked up to a s/c drive shaft. The charge temperature shouldn't be all that bad since it's an airbox that sits where the OEM airbox sits. Hopefully it's only the tune or else Votec has seriously failed on engineering a competitive unit.

I thought it was 5 psi?

It can't be all that inefficient as the compressor is a turbo compressor hooked up to a s/c drive shaft. The charge temperature shouldn't be all that bad since it's an airbox that sits where the OEM airbox sits. Hopefully it's only the tune or else Votec has seriously failed on engineering a competitive unit.

actualy the pics i have had a cone filter sitting where the sensor sits now on the tc heat soak out the ___ hahaha


pics soon verry soon

If 200/175 turns out to be the real numbers, you could get more of a performance boost by removing the rear seat and spare tire.

I read an article about the tC S/C and it stated it was going to be at 5 psi.

It's also stated on the the tC description on this website

http://www.scionlife.com/scion/tc/

none of you are taking into effect that these numbers are advertised on a *STOCK MOTOR*, ie; no header, no exhaust, no timing, and probably on 91 octane...think about it. you all seem to be so one track minded on this whole s/c thing. i feel like i went from a world of tuning and intelligence to a world of impatience and ignorance. a majority of these posts on here are useless.
X-eric-X

none of you are taking into effect that these numbers are advertised on a *STOCK MOTOR*, ie; no header, no exhaust, no timing, and probably on 91 octane...think about it. you all seem to be so one track minded on this whole s/c thing. i feel like i went from a world of tuning and intelligence to a world of impatience and ignorance. a majority of these posts on here are useless.
X-eric-X

the way i look at this for a 3k plus install (becsoue the slip said that also) super charger i would expect better gains if i go out and buy a cobalt ss will out preforme this tc and in my opinion looks just as good (yesi have actualy driven one )



im still trying to get my lazy ___ up and go look for the data cable for my camera sorry lol

none of you are taking into effect that these numbers are advertised on a *STOCK MOTOR*, ie; no header, no exhaust, no timing, and probably on 91 octane...think about it. you all seem to be so one track minded on this whole s/c thing. i feel like i went from a world of tuning and intelligence to a world of impatience and ignorance. a majority of these posts on here are useless.
X-eric-X

the way i look at this for a 3k plus install (becsoue the slip said that also) super charger i would expect better gains if i go out and buy a cobalt ss will out preforme this tc and in my opinion looks just as good (yesi have actualy driven one )



im still trying to get my lazy butt up and go look for the data cable for my camera sorry lol
i understand you on that, but do you really think that 7psi in ANY motor (be it turbo, or supercharger) will only yeild you 12 ft lbs of torque? to the crank? believing that would be plain out ignorant. straight up DUMB if you will. i feel you on the 3k + install pricing as well, for the power, to me, not worth it at all, so why dont you give it another year, maybe 2, and wait for larger companies like greddy, and revhard to put there kit into mass production, and cost 1300 LESS than all of the other kits available right now, with all pieces included i might add. can you wait that long for some performance? its not like youre getting rid of your car tomorrow, are you?
X-eric-X

i never had plans on the s/c i was just stating my opinion lol i wan to turbo one day but not any time soon im trying to open a buisness in a year i need to save

pictures....

What I was told at Scion Night II was that the Super Charger will produce 203crank HP and the supercharger was running exactly at 5.4 psi. I was also told within 2 months of less it will be released, but we all know how that story goes

i cant find the damn cable but my buddy is brining his over when he gets out of school at 10 so just 2 more hours sorry but soon verry verry soon lol

none of you are taking into effect that these numbers are advertised on a *STOCK MOTOR*, ie; no header, no exhaust, no timing, and probably on 91 octane...think about it. you all seem to be so one track minded on this whole s/c thing. i feel like i went from a world of tuning and intelligence to a world of impatience and ignorance. a majority of these posts on here are useless.
X-eric-X

May be stock but for 3k you are getting bent over buying that. Cobalt SS makes 205 hp and toque from a 2L. Neon SRT4 makes 230 hp and even more torque and comes with upgrades from the factory to raise that higher from a 2.4L. tC is a 2.4 so I would think 200hp is a little on the low side and 175 lbft is way low. Id like to see 200-220 hp with similar torque to be worth 3k for it.

srt4 is turbo'd and has an engine built for it

srt4 is turbo'd and has an engine built for it

why yes it is your so verry ubservant lol but yeah i woke up with the cable sitting on my head becosue i fell aslpee watching ff7 advent children (witch by the way kicks ___) but i found one pic from the show here i have the cable and my camera today with me at work but need to see if our it risk department will alow me to bring it in and hook it up (i work for jp morgan chase and there a little strict about ____ like this)


but here is a pic of it installed

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/453000-453999/453941_54_full.jpg

interesting
not very blingy at all

not blingin...

doesnt matter if its bling or not to me... its performance that counts... if it does perform how i want it to....

i wonder if their kit will replace the stock air box with a cone filter like the pic shown....

they claim it will replace the airbox

also, if they're going to make something that takes up a lot of the engine bay (like this), why NOT make it look good? if it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.

Hmmm...usually Vortech superchargers have a shiny chrome finish, this one doesn't. Is TRD getting them without the blingage?

Hmmm...usually Vortech superchargers have a shiney chrome finish, this one doesn't. Is TRD getting them without the blingage?

i guess so it said vortech across the side and no luck on pics at work sorry lol i had my camera here and security saw it and they jaked it there digging through it now and said if they dont find any pics of the building or office then i can have it back (so ill get it back) ill post them up once i get home sorry its taking so long

Hmmm...usually Vortech superchargers have a shiney chrome finish, this one doesn't. Is TRD getting them without the blingage?

i guess so it said vortech across the side and no luck on pics at work sorry lol i had my camera here and security saw it and they jaked it there digging through it now and said if they dont find any pics of the building or office then i can have it back (so ill get it back) ill post them up once i get home sorry its taking so long

go postal on them!

ill be awaiting more pics tonight

srt4 is turbo'd and has an engine built for it

I know it is and so is the Cobalt. Thats why I wouldnt expect the huge power you can get from the SRT 230 hp & 250 lb-ft stock up to 310 hp and 325 lb-ft for the Stage 3. Since the tC engine is bigger than the Cobalt one I would think that it may be able to put out similar power 205 hp & 200 lb-ft with less boost required and also less expensive mods to handle the increased power.

looks different than the one from scion night

http://daewootech.net/scion/DTN_ScnNte814.jpg

http://daewootech.net/scion/DTN_ScnNte816.jpg

only thing i heard is something like 203 hp or something like that

im sure since its production and they had to pass CARB to get it legal to sell theyre gonna be conservative. plus it leaves room for aftermarket parts for scion and others to sell, thats the name of the game

pictures like these force me to wait for trd to release true info t the public

That really looks like the airbox is going straight to the TB without going through the compressor..

The compressor hose goes down a little bit so I guess that's where the airbox hose might be going but that just looks like more piping than necessary.

One would hope those pictures are not the final release pictures.

it didnt impress me at all
200hp
175ftlb tourq
at 7 psi

You want more than 60 WHP and 30WTQ (I don't buy those torque numbers—should be more like 190ish) for $3000? Come on people.

How many SC kits that give you 25%+ gains for less than $3K exist? With a manufacturers warranty and installation? :eyebrow:

I think you guys have been sniffing too much SuperTuner print :no:

I'm not in the market for one, but Scion and the manufacturerer of this tkit are going about the release of this kit the right way...If they had come out with it six months ago and had quircks,hiccups or glitches you all would have been crying foul. Let them finish their tuning, assemble the parts and then release their product.

there are two shown, one keeps the stock air box, one has a cone filter....

THe guy at Scion Night said that he Supercharger Origionally produced 200 at the wheel and ~230Crank but it wouldnt' pass smog so they tried to keep the HP above 200crank while passing Carb so that's where the 203 number comes from. Also the TRD Supercharger runs on Stock ECU with new Injectors from what I am told.

it didnt impress me at all
200hp
175ftlb tourq
at 7 psi

You want more than 60 WHP and 30WTQ (I don't buy those torque numbers—should be more like 190ish) for $3000? Come on people.

How many SC kits that give you 25%+ gains for less than $3K exist? With a manufacturers warranty and installation? :eyebrow:

I think you guys have been sniffing too much SuperTuner print :no:

I'm not in the market for one, but Scion and the manufacturerer of this tkit are going about the release of this kit the right way...If they had come out with it six months ago and had quircks,hiccups or glitches you all would have been crying foul. Let them finish their tuning, assemble the parts and then release their product.

It better be at the wheels. This has been about to be released in a month or 2 for probably at least a year. Its just poor planning on their part by now.

not really... christmas is coming up.... for all of those who have the $$$

That really looks like the airbox is going straight to the TB without going through the compressor..

The compressor hose goes down a little bit so I guess that's where the airbox hose might be going but that just looks like more piping than necessary.

One would hope those pictures are not the final release pictures.

Hmm it does look like that goes straight to the TB doesnt it? That would have a pretty tight bend to get into the compressor and probably lots of restriction if it really is hooked up.

THe guy at Scion Night said that he Supercharger Origionally produced 200 at the wheel and ~230Crank but it wouldnt' pass smog so they tried to keep the HP above 200crank while passing Carb so that's where the 203 number comes from. Also the TRD Supercharger runs on Stock ECU with new Injectors from what I am told.

The guy at scion nights also said that the TRD supercharger in that 2006 tC was the first final production version. He stated that it is in the process of shipping out to dealers est. in about two months. Hope hes not lying... lol

I for one hope he is.

Or I hope parts come out by TRD for some really good numbers or those numbers are just way low balling the actual numbers. 203 however is too random to be a guess.

Its just poor planning on their part...

Yeah, not releasing a $3000 performance add-on that doesn't do what it claims to is poor planning :tap:. Scion is probably not to blame, other than building buzz about a product.

Its just poor planning on their part...

Yeah, not releasing a $3000 performance add-on that doesn't do what it claims to is poor planning :tap:. Scion is probably not to blame, other than building buzz about a product.

Im not saying release crap just to do it. But its always supposed to be out in a month or 2 and here it is over a year later. I dont know who else would be to blame other than Toyota/Scion since they make it for their cars. If you are really that far behind then you shouldnt be claiming 2 months when you know its not accurate. I do automotive testing and even when all testing is complete its still not on the market and for sale in less than a month. You still have to start up production and ship parts to customers. Start up always takes longer then regular production. If you want to release it in a month you better be through testing and have passed it and have it ceritfied already.
BTW anyone know if the torque is that low because the tranny or something else in the driveline cant take anymore?

The delay was probably caused by CARB anality. CARB set the thing back which required a new design. They probably figured the first design would have worked but kept having to redesign afterwards.

On behalf of apologetic Californians, we're sorry for causing the rest of the country so much grief for the tC. To compensate, stop by for a quick 3 month visit and spend your money and pay our sales taxes and enjoy the summer weather during fall! All expense paid trip.. by you of course. Just be sure to get in and out before the earthquake hits.

I have not chimed in on the endless S/C threads as these prior dates were only speculation. Anticipate the S/C much sooner than you think. It is real, it is boxed, ready to ship and Toyota is waiting for one piece of paper (carb). That is all I will confirm at this point, my next post will be when I have the S/C on the TC. Until then…….. :wink:

17000 base price TC+ 3000 Sc....20000. Any other car for that kind of performance from the dealer will be at least 20k.

I have not chimed in on the endless S/C threads as these prior dates were only speculation. Anticipate the S/C much sooner than you think. It is real, it is boxed, ready to ship and Toyota is waiting for one piece of paper (carb). That is all I will confirm at this point, my next post will be when I have the S/C on the TC. Until then…….. :wink:

So you're leaving Scion Life? :(

Question....so if i buy the S/C then can i get a turbo kit too and have em both work....or is it one or the other?

Er, for the most part you can only get one. With some custom piping... I'm sure.... they can both work...

But for normal circumstances, they both do the same thing but in different ways so no, they will not be compatible.

Question....so if i buy the S/C then can i get a turbo kit too and have em both work....or is it one or the other?

It's been done. HKS called it Twincharging and offered it in the late 80's for a few different engines. Toysport built a very well known MR2 (AW11) with the Twincharging set up. It definitely made some power, and it was featured in a couple of magazines.

Question....so if i buy the S/C then can i get a turbo kit too and have em both work....or is it one or the other?

That one of those "if you have to ask you aren't going to do it" things.

It's not impossible, only costly and time consuming.

VW is (most likely) going to produce a SuperTurbo engine for Euroean markets. Their engine is a 1.5L SC feeding a TC producing around 200BHP/180TQ and able to average 30mph in a 2800lb car.

BMW's MINI is also rumoured to be designing a twin charged engine.

:blah: i dont know how many times i'm goin to say this on sl but that sc design is by vortech which means nobody else makes our sc :nope: it doesnt matter how the finish looks. trd scs look almost like jackson scs. the cone filter setup looks costum fab. i talked with a vortech rep and he told me this info plus they shipped hundreds of them out already. this means (side bar note) that no tc will come off the boat with 1 on it. they will b shipped to the dealer to b put on if financing it will still b an option for those that dont have a tc yet. STOP CALLIN IT TRD! :tap:

:blah: i dont know how many times i'm goin to say this on sl but that sc design is by vortech which means nobody else makes our sc :nope: it doesnt matter how the finish looks. trd scs look almost like jackson scs. the cone filter setup looks costum fab. i talked with a vortech rep and he told me this info plus they shipped hundreds of them out already. this means (side bar note) that no tc will come off the boat with 1 on it. they will b shipped to the dealer to b put on if financing it will still b an option for those that dont have a tc yet. STOP CALLIN IT TRD! :tap:

you know we might as well call the trd coils eibach coils then and the exhaust a borl exhasut insted of trd you get the point here trd pulls all the weight with the design so it stays with in warrenty vortech manufacutres it

and side not im stuck at work till 9 and so is my camera security leaves at 6 so expect pics up tonight for sure. there isnt any thing else to do here hahaha

:blah: i dont know how many times i'm goin to say this on sl but that sc design is by vortech which means nobody else makes our sc :nope: it doesnt matter how the finish looks. trd scs look almost like jackson scs. the cone filter setup looks costum fab. i talked with a vortech rep and he told me this info plus they shipped hundreds of them out already. this means (side bar note) that no tc will come off the boat with 1 on it. they will b shipped to the dealer to b put on if financing it will still b an option for those that dont have a tc yet. STOP CALLIN IT TRD! :tap:
Dude pull out your sandy tampon. Everybody knows Vortech is supplying TRD. Newsflash!!! TRD doesn't make most of what they label as their's. TRD springs are not TRD. The TRD exhaust is not TRD. The TRD intake is not TRD. See a pattern here? Vortech supplies the compressor and maybe a couple other parts, but it TRD's label that is on the kit and TRD will warrant it NOT Vortech.

:blah: i dont know how many times i'm goin to say this on sl but that sc design is by vortech which means nobody else makes our sc :nope: it doesnt matter how the finish looks. trd scs look almost like jackson scs. the cone filter setup looks costum fab. i talked with a vortech rep and he told me this info plus they shipped hundreds of them out already. this means (side bar note) that no tc will come off the boat with 1 on it. they will b shipped to the dealer to b put on if financing it will still b an option for those that dont have a tc yet. STOP CALLIN IT TRD! :tap:

so what your saying is to call it trd?



J/k

:blah: i dont know how many times i'm goin to say this on sl but that sc design is by vortech which means nobody else makes our sc :nope: it doesnt matter how the finish looks. trd scs look almost like jackson scs. the cone filter setup looks costum fab. i talked with a vortech rep and he told me this info plus they shipped hundreds of them out already. this means (side bar note) that no tc will come off the boat with 1 on it. they will b shipped to the dealer to b put on if financing it will still b an option for those that dont have a tc yet. STOP CALLIN IT TRD! :tap:

Its marked as a TRD by Scion so call it one. Im pretty sure the Toyota had some input with it while working with Vortech. Just like all the other TRD stuff its a dealer installed option. Why dont you call up the dealer and ask about the Vortech supercharger and see what they tell you? Do it as a conference call so we can all get a good laugh together. :rofl:

heavy sigh is all that is needed to be said....

on a side note, im happy to see FLINT isnt typing in all caps anymore....

I see break_away is goin to be my scionlife NEMESIS

I see break_away is goin to be my scionlife NEMESIS

life is your nemesis LOL

what does all this bickering have to do with the supercharger anyways?

I see break_away is goin to be my scionlife NEMESIS

life is your nemesis LOL

what does all this bickering have to do with the supercharger anyways?
sigh again with a slight giggle...

what does anything have to do with the sc matty? its all he said she said....

people just like to start up threads like this to get the hype up even more, lol

and im a tard and reply to them threads.

a sucker for the suckers eh?

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

yeah, its an hour until I get off work. So what? Wanna fight about it?!

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

yeah, its an hour until I get off work. So what? Wanna fight about it?!

i ate burritoes for lunch now i have gas :lalala:

i am indeed matty =\

atleast im not in denial i guess...

none of you are taking into effect that these numbers are advertised on a *STOCK MOTOR*, ie; no header, no exhaust, no timing, and probably on 91 octane...think about it. you all seem to be so one track minded on this whole s/c thing. i feel like i went from a world of tuning and intelligence to a world of impatience and ignorance. a majority of these posts on here are useless.
X-eric-X

May be stock but for 3k you are getting bent over buying that. Cobalt SS makes 205 hp and toque from a 2L. Neon SRT4 makes 230 hp and even more torque and comes with upgrades from the factory to raise that higher from a 2.4L. tC is a 2.4 so I would think 200hp is a little on the low side and 175 lbft is way low. Id like to see 200-220 hp with similar torque to be worth 3k for it.

yeah i agree with that...with the tC having a 2.4L the s/c should produse more hp.....the way i see it the tC has a great oppertunity to expand compared to toher cars like cobalt ss s/c....in the end there is no replacement for displacement.

LOL. The first time I've heard someone say "there's no replacement for displacement" in reference to a 2.4L. You're correct, but the difference between our 2.4 and the 1.8 that is typical for 4 cyclinder Hondas is not even worth using that quote for. (5.7 vs. 1.8, now we're talking)

i think you may have missunderstood what i was refering to....basically i was talkin about the forced induction...a 2L engine has "less" room to work with than an engine with a 2.4L.....because the 2.4 has almost 400 cc'c extra to cram more air into...resulting being more boost to be added and more hp being the out come.

the trd s/c only has about6-7 PSI of boost, which sux because the 2.4L can handle way more boost, heck the cobalt only has a 2L but it has (i think) 14 PSI of boost....just imagin that much boost of a tC....it will produce alot of hp and trq

i wasn't even talkin about no 1.8L honda......

the only case that i kno of where the "no replacement for displacement" thing doesnt make sense is in a rotary engine...the RX-8 only has a 1.3L engine but yet it produces 238 hp, but the trq sux.
rotaries can handle alot of boost....my boi Jeff has an RX-7 that kickes out almost 500 hourses at the wheel....you can check out his RX-7 at www.t-emotion.com...just look around the site and you'll find his bright green RX-7....man i love rotaries, although i love my tC even more :P

anyone ever wonder if they are low balling the HP numbers

the mazdaspeed protege turbo was only listed at 170 HP i think it made lots more than that... HP numbers are often low balled for the tight wads that run insurance and such!

most of the tuner cars (boosted oem) are low balled

the trd s/c only has about6-7 PSI of boost, which sux because the 2.4L can handle way more boost, heck the cobalt only has a 2L but it has (i think) 14 PSI of boost...

A critical component in your "but they can run more boost in a smaller engine,":
The 2.0L Ecotec that comes in the SC Cobalt SS was built to have that much boost in it, the 2.4L in your tC was not. If you replace the stock internals with some that can handle the heat then, boost on my man.

If TRD tried to put 12psi through the 2AZ-FE with stock internals they'd go bankrupt managing warranty claims.

make_shift: have you ever looked at the internals of the 2az-fe?

make_shift: have you ever looked at the internals of the 2az-fe?
good call.

makeshift, they had it running at a higher psi (so i heard), but couldnt get it pass carb. our engines are strong bro.... it can handle 12 psi easy

intercooled with good tuning i could see 1 bar

ok after taking like a week they are finaly here sorry about the horibble wait but if you were realy waiting for these picks then i feel sorry for you and your boring ___ life lol



http://home.comcast.net/~aarontrini85/DSC01505.JPG

installed does not look as nice as i though it would





http://home.comcast.net/~aarontrini85/DSC01507.JPG


this is the display model some dumb ___ yelled at me for spinning the pull he said i was going to ____ up the s/c lol its self containd and a display so who the ____ cares if it doesnt have oil any ways it was made to be molested by children at car shows hahaha





http://home.comcast.net/~aarontrini85/DSC01508.JPG

and the info slip

the trd s/c only has about6-7 PSI of boost, which sux because the 2.4L can handle way more boost, heck the cobalt only has a 2L but it has (i think) 14 PSI of boost...

A critical component in your "but they can run more boost in a smaller engine,":
The 2.0L Ecotec that comes in the SC Cobalt SS was built to have that much boost in it, the 2.4L in your tC was not. If you replace the stock internals with some that can handle the heat then, boost on my man.

If TRD tried to put 12psi through the 2AZ-FE with stock internals they'd go bankrupt managing warranty claims.


hahaha as far as this goes call up any one running a zpi turbo and they will tell you how wrong you are about boosted 2az's lol

thats got to be lowballed power figures

makeshift, they had it running at a higher psi (so i heard), but couldnt get it pass carb. our engines are strong bro.... it can handle 12 psi easy

I stand corrected. But there are obviously issues as far as CARB—and emissions in general—that are preventing more boost.

wow, for that kind of money, i'll be helping myself to a turbo insted. Soon as I have the tC Paid off :|

^^^ smart

well make_shift....the way that i see it, even tho tC's have the same inline 4 engine as the camry....toyota knew that the tC was gonna be boosted so i think that they may have reinforced the egine's internals....mainly the valvetrain to handle higher pressure and heat, but that just my opinion you dont have to agree.....all i was tring to say was that the tC can handle more boost because it has more displacement.

wow 3200 not installed, I wonder how many people are going to waste thier money on this, just save the money instead of making the car a little faster for almost 4 k

i wish i could have got you guys a sound clip of this but i didnt becouse my camera was in my car when this car was running but just turn on your vacume and suck up a tenis ball with the hose part to make it louder and more high pitched then how it normaly runs and you basicly have it there

it sounded like sutch crap i hope they do an air box rather then that cone flilter so you done here the air being sucked in

so.....whos going to be the the test car here? someone is going to buy it. It will be intresting if its alot better finally installed, tweaked, and brought to the tracks with some #'s before some of you change your opinions. it is a little high in price, but until the final product is out, we all cant be one sided about the S/C. or atleast im not ...yet

Yeah, I mean, if you can monkey with it, why not. But, Maybe i'm hooked on the idea of a turbo. Never seemed to feel comfortable with a belt driven FI idea...seems unecessary unless I'm mashing on the gass :P But hey, I don't know my own ___ from a hole in the ground neway....

Any updates?

welll...im 16 and my told me he would buy the supercharger for me because i was going to get the dodge srt4 but he wanted me to wait a while after i was 16 to see how i handled driving so he thought the supercharger would be a perfect idea so he told me he would get me the tc and then buy me the supercharger if i was responsible enough, plus he wont let me do anything to my car thats not under warranty

wtf. Your dad buys you a new car AND a supercharger. I wish my parents were rich

hahaha what a lucky f|_|cker i hate you Nebraska_tC i hate you


lol

..you spoiled bastard!, lol

I'm thinking the numbers on that slip in the photo is most likely low-balled. It does say "estimated" after all, which could mean good things for those of us who want a s/c eventually. Another thing to consider is that they might be using that new SAE horsepower ratings system, which is why the new Civic SI is quoted as being 193hp even though its the same engine as the 210hp RSX type-S.

As much as I like turbos I do still want TRD's supercharger since we got the extended warranty on my car, and I think it'll be a little easier to maintain- don't have to worry about the heat issues and oil issues that turbos can have. Another bonus to the supercharger is that the power is very linear and doesn't hit all once like in a turbo, which will be beneficial when I take the tC to the local Solo II autocrosses.

And for all of you who want the s/c and are disappointed that your tC won't stand for "turboCharged" then just remember that since it's a centrifugal-type supercharger so instead it can be "theCompressor!" :P

^^ LOL

i thought the new si had an all new K20Z3 where as the rsx type s has a K20A2 now i could be mistaken but i think i know my honda engines i think lol


but any ways yeah they could be low balled but eitehr way the wholel setup is not my style but then again im not buying it so what ever lol

ur dad buys u a car... then buys u a s/c.... sigh.... all at 16....


i wanna see the damn thing on a scionlifers car, and dyno it

i want this dang thing because its from the factory and I know the car can handle it. I am sick of having cars or seeing cars with mods and they are ok for a while, then puts long term stress on the cars. If toyota made this setup FOR the tC, I trust it. The same reason I had trd lowering springs, because I had a lowered car with corrected camber/alignment and it ate thru the inside of the tires no matter what. If my tC does this, they will be at fault...which my rear alignment was off, and they realigned it free for me. To me its worth the hastle of letting somebody else worry about problems. Sure $3000 is a lot, but for the reassurance I have a safe running car...its probably worth it to me compared to Turboing a tC and just hoping nothing goes wrong, and if it does, I have to work on it, or pay to get it fixed by a shop...which usually isnt cheap.

So my goal, save my $ through the winter since I garage my tC, wait to hear feedback on people who install it, see if they have any problems, maybe get a header too, and call it a day. But switching to 91 octane is gonna suck with these gas prices!

i wanna see the damn thing on a scionlifers car, and dyno it

Yes TRD send me one so I can do a review on it! :lalala: I hope they read this... :wink:

Im just gonna see if I can get my dealership to either test fit one on my car or our demo car just so we have one...I am gonna go turbo cause I am more of the turbo person but a nice free s/c ECU upgrade sounds like a real nice starting point for my turbo setup. :lalala:

i thought the new si had an all new K20Z3 where as the rsx type s has a K20A2 now i could be mistaken but i think i know my honda engines i think lol


but any ways yeah they could be low balled but eitehr way the wholel setup is not my style but then again im not buying it so what ever lol

The 2005 type-s has the K20Z3. the 02-04's have the K20A2.

The only reason I know this is 'cause my friend is a Honda freak. wants to do a K swap into a EG hatch.... I think he's nuts, but he will run 12's

i dont know about that im still verry sure this is the first time this engine has touched american soil if not its first time being in a car

becouse i know some of the rsx guys are ____ed that it makes good power sounds great and comes with a tranny with an lsd when the type s doesnt even have an lsd

Ummm...hate to burst everyone bubble but who gives a f*ck what kind of motor comes in it...go start up another thread on it if you would like and then we can see all the honda trolls give their .02

Back on topic

Ummm...hate to burst everyone bubble but who gives a f*ck what kind of motor comes in it...go start up another thread on it if you would like and then we can see all the honda trolls give their .02


who are you calling a honda troll??? i have been an active usefull member of this forum for the past year and im also the only one who thought to take the picks for the ppl who care about this s/c so screw you


and now back on topic lol

Ummm...hate to burst everyone bubble but who gives a f*ck what kind of motor comes in it...go start up another thread on it if you would like and then we can see all the honda trolls give their .02


who are you calling a honda troll??? i have been an active usefull member of this forum for the past year and im also the only one who thought to take the picks for the ppl who care about this s/c so screw you


and now back on topic lol

I wasnt calling you a honda troll, I was saying that the minute you start up a post about honda, someone from a honda forum is gonna catch on then sign up on scionlife just to reply and talk sh*t about scions

look that TRD super charger is of simple design not worth the 3k at all, any company can make their own copying TRD and seriously hit BANK by selling it for 2,500 or so, OH and another thing is u guys theese are numbers of a stock tC with a Super charger THAT MEANS SAME OLE STOCK EXHAUST. if u think u got good gains from doin header/ exhaust upgrades, IMagine the gains from header exhaust uprades on a S/C tC

OH and another thing is u guys theese are numbers of a stock tC with a Super charger THAT MEANS SAME OLE STOCK EXHAUST. if u think u got good gains from doin header/ exhaust upgrades, IMagine the gains from header exhaust uprades on a S/C tC

I was wondering how long it was going to take for someone to bring that up, :)

yea i imagine after the supercharger, a header, and exhaust, the tC will be a nice little power machine. But sucks cause that makes it like $20K+ But oh well...hehe.

the exhaust would restrict soo much air, i wouldnt be surprised at all if there would be a 30-40hp gain from changin our header, s-pipe, and exhaust because the air is being forced into the enine. if it is restrictive stock IMagine how hard its tryin to get those PSI's out the stock exhaust when its Boosted!

^ true, all we can do is wait and see

i went to the vortech website, and they do sell just the s/c compressor by itself. they also sell the compressor thats the next size up.. and they sell a smaller drive pulley (to create more boost). so my plan of attack would seem to be to buy my tc without the s/c, do all the motor mods first (intake, exhaust, etc), then buy the s/c kit from the scion dealer and have it installed. Then either send the ECU off to be reprogrammed, or have a Greddy eManage Ultimate installed to help the ecu keep up with the mods you made. THEN dyno it. If the numbers dont satisfy you, you can go to www.vortechsuperchargers.com, buy the next size compressor and have them switched.

if you want power, the engine should be prepared for the boost first.

Remember, the factory will put the s/c on the car, but they are gonna do so on a stock engine.. I saw the s/c kit in the. scion brochure i got from the dealership, and with the s/c kit comes an upgraded set of fuel injectors. but other than that, they are slappin the s/c on a stock motor.

Superchargers make the GREATEST difference when they are the LAST upgrade made

just one humble dudes opinion. oh, BTW, i am an ex sprint car motor builder. and no i'm not a kid..

great forum. keep up the good work.
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Can't wait :love:

i went to the vortech website, and they do sell just the s/c compressor by itself. they also sell the compressor thats the next size up.. and they sell a smaller drive pulley (to create more boost). so my plan of attack would seem to be to buy my tc without the s/c, do all the motor mods first (intake, exhaust, etc), then buy the s/c kit from the scion dealer and have it installed. Then either send the ECU off to be reprogrammed, or have a Greddy eManage Ultimate installed to help the ecu keep up with the mods you made. THEN dyno it. If the numbers dont satisfy you, you can go to www.vortechsuperchargers.com, buy the next size compressor and have them switched.

if you want power, the engine should be prepared for the boost first.

Remember, the factory will put the s/c on the car, but they are gonna do so on a stock engine.. I saw the s/c kit in the. scion brochure i got from the dealership, and with the s/c kit comes an upgraded set of fuel injectors. but other than that, they are slappin the s/c on a stock motor.

Superchargers make the GREATEST difference when they are the LAST upgrade made

just one humble dudes opinion. oh, BTW, i am an ex sprint car motor builder. and no i'm not a kid..

great forum. keep up the good work.
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just 2 things:

#1 the supercharger isnt a factory installed option, its a dealer installed one.

#2 you said do intake/ header mods first, well the S/C will replace the intake so there is no point in that part, unless you were also refering to throttle body and intake manifold...

i said i'd do the other stuff first. the go to the dealer to get the s/c kit, so point 1 doesnt apply. nd i was talking about the throttle body and intake manifold, so point 2 is correct.

oooops...,. i just saw where i made my mistake... i stand corrected.. the dealer will put the s/c kit on the car, but they will do so onnn a stock motior.

...yea im still feelin the 300 hp off a bolt up turbo kit for jus about the same money...sry guys
but then again the whole warrenty thing sounds nice...but by the time i get the money to buy that thing...i think my warrenty will jus about be up. unless if u could work the payment into the car payments...sort of refinance with the s/c...

oh and earlier in the thread some kid asked if he could turbo and S/C...wow go read import tunners or somethin...thats all i got to say

OH and another thing is u guys theese are numbers of a stock tC with a Super charger THAT MEANS SAME OLE STOCK EXHAUST. if u think u got good gains from doin header/ exhaust upgrades, IMagine the gains from header exhaust uprades on a S/C tC

I was wondering how long it was going to take for someone to bring that up, :)

ASSHATS!!!! I brought that up on like the second page of this tread. And how come those numbers are so low? Isn't 7psi, 7psi whether its from a turbo or a supercharger???? I didnt know that air changed depending on what device it was being forced through. But I dont really know much about FI. :eyebrow:
EDIT: Ok, maybe it was in one of the other 15,000 threads about this supercharger. :P
Yea, it was in this one http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=85129&highlight=
OOPS :doh:

...yea im still feelin the 300 hp off a bolt up turbo kit for jus about the same money...sry guys
but then again the whole warrenty thing sounds nice...but by the time i get the money to buy that thing...i think my warrenty will jus about be up. unless if u could work the payment into the car payments...sort of refinance with the s/c...

oh and earlier in the thread some kid asked if he could turbo and S/C...wow go read import tunners or somethin...thats all i got to say

go talk to the mini guys there is a kit out for there cars and some company breifly visited these forums and spoke about that but i think its called a twin charger dont hold me to that