so ya saw alot of new post dealing with the tc crashing in rains and stuff and potenza are too blame or the driver :P well one day im looking to upgrade the rims to 18 and was wondering what brand of tire would be good down here in california where it is multi weather

if you are not going to be driving in snow you should check out som ultra high performance tire. Check out tire rack for comparisons. I was comparing ultrahigh performance all seasons and ultra high performance summer tires and I noticed that summer tires will out perform all seasons in BOTH dry and wet conditions. Only catch is that summer tires wont get you anywhere in the snow

thanks for the respond but tire rack doesnt have tc model : / or maybe Im missing something

I have Pirelli PZero Nero M+S B's on my 18s'. They grip really good in wet conditions. (WAY BETTER than Stock Potenzas'.) I also like the fact that these tires are very reasonably priced. You can find them as low as $110 but no more than $150. Hope this helps.

ekk yesterday I just witness my new potenza gone wrong! there was a puddle and I was waiting to make a right but the left side had cars park so it was hard to see cars coming from the left and When I thought it was safe I press the gas a bit and the front tire spun out and peel on the wet puddle which had no dirt so dont blame the dirt and I lost control until the dry floor made my tires dry again

ya the stock potenza's arent the greatest tires in the world. like hyghgynx said if you're looking for something with a lot of grip get some high performance tires. Check out some pirelli's or even some nitto's.

if you dont kno how to drive in water/through puddles it doesnt much matter wut tires you have...

^^I guess you've never heard of Hydroplaning? Being that the tC is heavy in the front, light in the back, and FWD, its very easy to hydroplane in it. No matter how deep the puddle is! If it wasn't for my Pirellis', there would have been plenty of scary hydroplaning incidents.

is it really due to the tire alone? i actually wanted to ask about this, for some reason ive seen alot of pictures of crashed tcs and accident stories, and its gettin me kinda bugged out. are tires that bad, or is the handling/weight distribution of the car to blame? is it taht serious, and does suspension upgrades help to eliminate the issue?

is it really due to the tire alone? i actually wanted to ask about this, for some reason ive seen alot of pictures of crashed tcs and accident stories, and its gettin me kinda bugged out. are tires that bad, or is the handling/weight distribution of the car to blame? is it taht serious, and does suspension upgrades help to eliminate the issue?

the short answer? yes the bridgestone re92's are that bad.. I think anything out there would be better than the re92's.. they are at the bottom of the survey list ! hardly could be called a "performance tire" with ratings like that...


the re92's that you've seen with the crashes, i would say that yeah the tires freaked out (lost traction because they suck) and caused the person to lose control.. you can go to tirerack.com and look up the reviews of the bridgestone re92 and see for yourself.. there are many other makes of cars (different sizes, weight distributions) with the same problems.. so yeah the tires are bad but not to defend toyota but they obviously saved money somewhere and it was on the tires! suspension upgrades are only going to be as good as the rubber keeping it glued to the ground.. so the first thing to do is replace the tires..


so the conclusion.. it's the tires that can be blamed.. bad tires = car losing control..

Wet pavement is WORSE than dirt. Especially at an intersection where oil buildup is the worst.

The potenzas are not good tires... but there are about a million others that are far worse. Unless the potenza blew out causing the crash, then you cant blame the tire. People are out there driving on much worse tires in much worse environments without sliding off the road. The complaints I have heard regarding the car "fishtailing" out of control were driver error 100% if you read the complaints thoroughly, or sound more like torque steer that someone completely mistaked for fishtailing (like the car "fishtailing out of control from a dead stop takeoff at an intersection". Kind of defies the laws of physics on a fwd car going that slow). Those are just the examples I have read.

I have driven mine in a couple of feet of snow, rain soaked roads, hot pavement, cold pavement, etc, and they do ok... not near what they should for the price.. but not unsafe unless a person has never driven and is running them like a bat out of hell.

I had potenza S03 pole positions on my Type R and they were amazingly grippy in the rain.

I can't say enough good about Goodyear Eagle F1 tires. Have them on my xB and it is nigh impossible to break grip. I do not hydroplane, either. I can drive wet (not oily) pavements with as much assurance as the OEM tires did on clean dry pavement.

Plus, the tread pattern is boss looking.

I think all the accidents happen because TC owners are mostly young and dont know how to drive. Potenzas work ok for me.

I have always used Michelin tires and never had any problems. I am running on Michelin Harmony tires and the grip is great. NO slipping or hydroplaning and I live in the midwest where there is rain, some snow, sleet and ice.

here's the S03s. they actually perform as good as they look!

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6550/bss038ju.jpg

if you dont kno how to drive in water/through puddles it doesnt much matter wut tires you have...

Agreed!

People seem to think water/snow should not affect their acceleration, deceleration or cornering. Straight line driving speed does not equate to cornering, acceleration and stopping ability. I like watching cars/trucks doing 50 in ice/snow untill there is a bend in the road and they wind up in the ditch. Plus, when accelerating, a front wheel drive car WILL ALWAYS spin it's tires rather easily compared to a RWD. Any high performance car should be a RWD.

Always slow down in the rain. Let the cars who pass you have the wrecks.

FYI, I invite you to visit our site again http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=DJ1&url=/tires/index.jsp as we do have a listing and products for the tC. Based on your comments, and I would suggest you consider looking at tires in the Max Performance, Ultra High Performance Summer and Ultra High Performance All-Season categories. For personal service please feel free to give me a call!

hmmm.....i never had a probelms with my potenzas. i thought they gripped great, in houston we have some horrible roads and th weather changes every 10min, so it could rain at any min and never had a problem.

I have no complaints about the tires. Of course the tires are no good in the wet. just don't drive crazy. My wife has no complaints about the tires either in the snow. She is happy with them. once again, it's all about the your driving habits. I have wrecked my other car with sticky tires only cuz I didn't know there was water around a corner I was trying to carve and I busted a wheel going over a curb. I have tried to get the tC to slip and I can't. guess I am a good driver and know what I'm doing.