whats up guys i'm designing a crazy turbo kit customs fuel rail aluminum intake manifold exaust and 2nd fuel pump and emanage fuel computer and a gt28 turbo prob a turbonetics or a percision or unless i find a hks for cheap lol but i have a few questions for you motor head guys i'm redoing the whole exaust and wanted to know if anyone knew if taking the cat out will effect that secound 02 sensor sense these things have 2 :evil: but if anyone has input or wants to find out more just post in

of course taking out the cat will affect the o2 sensor. that's why it's there.

you can have a resistor installed in the wire tho, tricks the computer into reading correctly..

crazy azz turbo huh? i'm guessing you're paying someone else to do this for you haha.

actually not!!! ive never let anyone work on any of my car for the past 3 years i'm 18 and know alot the only thing i didnt know about is that i didnt know if i was jsut a emissions thing cuz if it is you can get rid easily do you know the correct resitor of hand or do i just need to do the math if anyones knows itll save me time thanks

i'm pretty sure the resistor value will vary between cars.. here's what i suggest...

test the voltage coming/going out of the o2 sensor at idle.. maybe revved up to 2K.. then test the voltage when the o2 sensor is unplugged..

compare the two voltages, and you can use your resistance formula to figure out what OHM resistor you'll need..

you could just get a high flow converter too. They shouldn't pull that much power away and will leave the air minty fresh.

what he said

yeah you really sounds like you know what you're doing :? why would you run a second fuel pump and an emanage? you run a seconf fuel pump if you are gonna run an EFMU

a few questions for you motor head guys i'm redoing the whole exaust and wanted to know if anyone knew if taking the cat out will effect that secound 02 sensor sense these things have 2 :evil: but if anyone has input or wants to find out more just post in


Taking out the catalytic converter will cause the motor to rich out and the check engine light will come on. The computer will try to compensate and the motor will just run rich like a mo fo.
I know because back in my beginings here in scionlife, I made one of the first straight pipes for Eric M. He told me everything that happened and I used the data he gave me to research what had happened, after the straight pipe was installed.
Installing a resinator in the place of the cat will not work either, nor will putting in resister to the 02 sensors. These DAM 02 sensors have gotton so sensivtive, you need the right amount of emmission going through it. If you want the high flow cat part number that will fit our vehicles PM me and we will talk somemore on the subject.

Just a thought....don't mind my blabbering..


aluminum intake manifold? Shouldn't you first figure out the fuel management? Putting parts together is the easy part. Trying to figure out the proper sizing of everything seems like a lot of work, especially if the fuel management is taken care of yet. Trust me.. I gave up.

Just a thought....don't mind my blabbering..


aluminum intake manifold? Shouldn't you first figure out the fuel management? Putting parts together is the easy part. Trying to figure out the proper sizing of everything seems like a lot of work, especially if the fuel management is taken care of yet. Trust me.. I gave up.

I agree, was any measurements put into consideration?

Just a thought....don't mind my blabbering..


aluminum intake manifold? Shouldn't you first figure out the fuel management? Putting parts together is the easy part. Trying to figure out the proper sizing of everything seems like a lot of work, especially if the fuel management is taken care of yet. Trust me.. I gave up.

I agree, was any measurements put into consideration?
yeah there is math and science behind building a manifold, you just don;t weld a tube on runners :) and truthfully you will blow the motor before a new intake manifold is needed

Well said.

I hate to say it, but i was one of those "I can make turbo kit" guys. And i did.. I had everything in place to get to get started... then i got stuck with fuel management...and i'd rather have someone else take the time to R&D everything, instead of me with a blown 5 month old motor...

Now someone bring on the turbo!

Well said.

I hate to say it, but i was one of those "I can make turbo kit" guys. And i did.. I had everything in place to get to get started... then i got stuck with fuel management...and i'd rather have someone else take the time to R&D everything, instead of me with a blown 5 month old motor...

Now someone bring on the turbo!
i'm working on it :)

i'm working on it :)

Well, hurry up peppy, I miss the blow off valve whoosh! :lol:

ok if some of you dobt my knowledge well dont ive been reseaching and working on turbo apps for a while its just with the new computers or adjusts they did i and almost everyone else need to work on but what i was doing with the emanage is i dont think that allows you to adjust fuel press to much and sense i might get a custom crank from a local shop and rod and pistons i found a place online that does customs cylinder sleeves so with all that i dont know how i would blow a motor which hey if i do hey i dont care i go to school at a mech school work my ___ of and over the summer im hired at a local service department the same place i bout my xb and already talked to the service manager about the whole engine parts layout of it and everything and but back to the emanage thing i was thinking that would be easier than like 2 3 seperate computers to run the ail fuel ratios and vtec and ____ but im gonna see first if im gonna need the extra fuel pump once i start to turn the boost up and if i do im running it to the custom fuel rail and adding a secound inlet or even 2 little ones with a seprate uel presser reg so i would have to run it all the time. but hey i dont know how much fuel i can force through it till i try so hey we'll find out keep me posted and thanks for the cat info about the strait through tube cuz thats what i wanted but hey i guess i cant run cat less
peace
thanks

typicall that 02 sensor (the 2nd one) is used only to check for catalytic functionality. You get the check engine light coming on but nothing else. the resistor trick (easier on some cars than others) can keep the light from coming on.


actually not!!! ive never let anyone work on any of my car for the past 3 years i'm 18 and know alot the only thing i didnt know about is that i didnt know if i was jsut a emissions thing cuz if it is you can get rid easily do you know the correct resitor of hand or do i just need to do the math if anyones knows itll save me time thanks

this is a reply to STYLIS

yes i did take lots of considerationg of measurement one of the things im working on is finding other 1.5 through 1.8 camparing the inner deminsions of intake manifolds and then taking a look at the inner demminsions of vemon and aem and edlebrock manifolds to see how much air space was added and looking at the type of power those manifold can produce i think i want mine pretty close to those specs but still not sure

THE OTHER'S
lets just say the building of parts is a totally dif story i got a hydrolic pipe bender and a welder and for the aluminum my uncle can help me sense he has the tool not me and my dad was an engineer for 25 years and so the whole computer ____ takingcare of along with percision building so hey you never know but if there are any other brave Xb TURBO men out there that want more than a 20% INCREASE ON A GREDDY TRUBO PROPS TO YOU ____ THAT TURBO I COULD PROB USE THAT ON MY MINI BIKE IF I LOWERED THE BOOST A PSI OR SO LOL

PEACE

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ok if some of you dobt my knowledge well dont ive been reseaching and working on turbo apps for a while its just with the new computers or adjusts they did i and almost everyone else need to work on but what i was doing with the emanage is i dont think that allows you to adjust fuel press to much and sense i might get a custom crank from a local shop and rod and pistons i found a place online that does customs cylinder sleeves so with all that i dont know how i would blow a motor which hey if i do hey i dont care i go to school at a mech school work my ___ of and over the summer im hired at a local service department the same place i bout my xb and already talked to the service manager about the whole engine parts layout of it and everything and but back to the emanage thing i was thinking that would be easier than like 2 3 seperate computers to run the ail fuel ratios and vtec and ____ but im gonna see first if im gonna need the extra fuel pump once i start to turn the boost up and if i do im running it to the custom fuel rail and adding a secound inlet or even 2 little ones with a seprate uel presser reg so i would have to run it all the time. but hey i dont know how much fuel i can force through it till i try so hey we'll find out keep me posted and thanks for the cat info about the strait through tube cuz thats what i wanted but hey i guess i cant run cat less
peace
thanks

YOU KNOW you can buy a complete greddy turbokit for under 2000 dollars right? (minus the intercooler)

you WILL NOT be albe to custom ANYTHING for under 2grand.

support@axronline.com

but back to the emanage thing i was thinking that would be easier than like 2 3 seperate computers to run the ail fuel ratios and VTEC



NUFF SAID.

YOU KNOW you can buy a complete greddy turbokit for under 2000 dollars right? (minus the intercooler)

you WILL NOT be albe to custom ANYTHING for under 2grand.

support@axronline.com


ok first of all the greddy kit isnt ____ compared to what i wanna do so money is no prob for me cuz i have all summer and no school and a great job so its all good

but back to the emanage thing i was thinking that would be easier than like 2 3 seperate computers to run the ail fuel ratios and VTEC



NUFF SAID.


ok sorry vvti o know theres not that much difrent sorry if i typed it wrong

Actually the 2 systems are quit different

YOU KNOW you can buy a complete greddy turbokit for under 2000 dollars right? (minus the intercooler)

you WILL NOT be albe to custom ANYTHING for under 2grand.

support@axronline.com


ok first of all the greddy kit isnt ____ compared to what i wanna do so money is no prob for me cuz i have all summer and no school and a great job so its all good

lol if you think so..

lemme guess, you're gonna run a T3/T4 turbo and 150shot of NAWWWS

haha

u realize that the greddy kit is plug'n'play right? pre tuned... everything will fit..

if you have no idea how to build a turbo kit (although you say you do, i remember thinking i knew everything at 18 too) you really should consider something a little simpler for you.

hope you get that Vtec controller working yo!

lemme know how soon the VVTi "kicks in" with that turbo HAHAHA

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Well Put.

this is a reply to STYLIS

yes i did take lots of considerationg of measurement one of the things im working on is finding other 1.5 through 1.8 camparing the inner deminsions of intake manifolds and then taking a look at the inner demminsions of vemon and aem and edlebrock manifolds to see how much air space was added and looking at the type of power those manifold can produce i think i want mine pretty close to those specs but still not sure


Wow, got my own reply, but why all this tension. We were trying to make sure you that you had some sort of knowledge before you blow up anything. And attacking Greddy is not really something you wanna do, A lot of people trust greddy. Also you gotta remember that not a lot of aftermarket companies want to work on a car thats only 1.5 so I consider our car lucky. With that said, don't blow your motor. :shock:

Our dealership will buy your first 15 units you build....... :shock: The hell with it, I can't even keep a straight face while typing this.

Well said.

I hate to say it, but i was one of those "I can make turbo kit" guys. And i did.. I had everything in place to get to get started... then i got stuck with fuel management...and i'd rather have someone else take the time to R&D everything, instead of me with a blown 5 month old motor...

Now someone bring on the turbo!
i'm working on it :)

Stop wrecking your pocket bike and get the turbo done already. :wink:

Wear a helmet. :lol:

KiL

ok sorry for the little attitude but i was getting a little mad thinking what the hell these people we all obviously like toyotas so why we making fun and jabbing i tought this post would bring a little more motavation but i feel the hell with the post ill just do it blow a few motors up and ____ its not like ill die lifes about experience ____ if its outa your pocket it sucks but ya get over it and never do it again unless you want to but anyways im not putting greddy down cuz they obviously did something right cuz there big and all i ment was they got almost the smallest aftermarket turbo on it i know its not designed for drag or anything but the 50% increase you get with blitz and trd superchargers i dont see why they didnt get more compeditive and you guys are also right when you say vvti and vtec arnt the same but still everyone got my point i dont know im just not used to saying vvti . vtec is easier but i didnt want to get into big detail about how vtec and vvti are alike i just said they are after like a week of hearing vvti i was like what the hell is that so i found out and i think its somewhat better than vtec mostly because you could make a cam way easier but for now i think shouldnt be so frickin negative i know you all probally like this 18 year old turbo by himself yeh ok well ill keep you updated on it
peace out

You know how you said earlier that you have all summer because you don't have school--you should seriously consider checking yourself back into a community college...however I don't know if even they would accept you.

Anyway--listen up dude--VVTI is nothing like VTEC. VVTL-I is something along the lines of VTEC...

Before you go on and on running your mouth--please, at least bring FACTS before you bring BS.

ok if some of you dobt my knowledge well dont ive been reseaching and working on turbo apps for a while its just with the new computers or adjusts they did i and almost everyone else need to work on but what i was doing with the emanage is i dont think that allows you to adjust fuel press to much and sense i might get a custom crank from a local shop and rod and pistons i found a place online that does customs cylinder sleeves so with all that i dont know how i would blow a motor which hey if i do hey i dont care i go to school at a mech school work my ___ of and over the summer im hired at a local service department the same place i bout my xb and already talked to the service manager about the whole engine parts layout of it and everything and but back to the emanage thing i was thinking that would be easier than like 2 3 seperate computers to run the ail fuel ratios and vtec and ____ but im gonna see first if im gonna need the extra fuel pump once i start to turn the boost up and if i do im running it to the custom fuel rail and adding a secound inlet or even 2 little ones with a seprate uel presser reg so i would have to run it all the time. but hey i dont know how much fuel i can force through it till i try so hey we'll find out keep me posted and thanks for the cat info about the strait through tube cuz thats what i wanted but hey i guess i cant run cat less
peace
thanks

..... here you can borrow some of my periods .... just toss them in there somewhere.

Give the guy a break. Maybe his punctuation and shift keys are broken. 8)

..... here you can borrow some of my periods .... just toss them in there somewhere.

AAAAAHAHAHAHA! :lol:

Need to take a damn grammer class.

ok wtf!!! you can drop the whole vtec vvti thing of course there not the same but if you have a brain and think logic, the actual process are the same

1. vtec uses oil press to engage so does vvti
2. there both controlled by ecu
3. you feel them both kick in not engage ____ its only 3 inchs big you feel the dif
i know vtec engages a 3rd lifter and vvti advances or retarts the lobes.

of corse there not the same. if you all like it better for me to say there totally dif, ok. then i dont care cuz i can name many ways and rip on myself too on how there dif. like vtec create earlier lift and longer duration and vvti just lets the shaft advance and lift the valve earlier. and that vtec is just a cam with 3 lobes 3 lifters some engageing pins and 2 valves. and vvti is an crank to exaust to intake flute rotor housing advanced and retarted by 3 seperate oil jets in a housing thats conected to the intake cam shaft but has nothing to do with lager lobes or engaging lifters to taller lobes no


if thats not vtec or vvti enough for you guys i dont care cuz im not designing a vvti engine im puting a turbo on one blowing freakin air into one its no that hard until you want to put more air and more air and more fuel then its gets hard and then it gets funner and all worth while


another thing its pretty funny how people like to pick on and talk ____ to the little 18 year old who no one knows anything about but when the little 18 year old is the first none master engineer and greddy or hks or apexi worker type stuff to build one in his garage i bet you all wont be talking ____ so i think instead of making a laugh and a enimie you might wanna reconsider who your talking to escialy if your older cuz anyone can talk ____ to the little guy but that doesn't mean the little guy wont eat it up and spit it right back in the big guys face after driving his 200 hp XB, home built turbo kit and many home fabricated parts and being the only one in the us who did it ____ i think i might start tonight thanks for the motivation

but for the nice guys thanks for not making asses of your selfs

peace

enimie

correction: enemy

Sorry, spelling errors bug the ____ out of me... thought you were trying to say enema for a second.

you might want to consider fully builing the bottom end if you wanna reach 200hp. there's no way a basic bolt on kit turbo will produce almost a 100% power gain w/out harming a motor with stock internals.

ok wtf!!! you can drop the whole vtec vvti thing of course there not the same but if you have a brain and think logic, the actual process are the same

1. vtec uses oil press to engage so does vvti
2. there both controlled by ecu
3. you feel them both kick in not engage ____ its only 3 inchs big you feel the dif
i know vtec engages a 3rd lifter and vvti advances or retarts the lobes.

of corse there not the same. if you all like it better for me to say there totally dif, ok. then i dont care cuz i can name many ways and rip on myself too on how there dif. like vtec create earlier lift and longer duration and vvti just lets the shaft advance and lift the valve earlier. and that vtec is just a cam with 3 lobes 3 lifters some engageing pins and 2 valves. and vvti is an crank to exaust to intake flute rotor housing advanced and retarted by 3 seperate oil jets in a housing thats conected to the intake cam shaft but has nothing to do with lager lobes or engaging lifters to taller lobes no


if thats not vtec or vvti enough for you guys i dont care cuz im not designing a vvti engine im puting a turbo on one blowing freakin air into one its no that hard until you want to put more air and more air and more fuel then its gets hard and then it gets funner and all worth while


another thing its pretty funny how people like to pick on and talk ____ to the little 18 year old who no one knows anything about but when the little 18 year old is the first none master engineer and greddy or hks or apexi worker type stuff to build one in his garage i bet you all wont be talking ____ so i think instead of making a laugh and a enimie you might wanna reconsider who your talking to escialy if your older cuz anyone can talk ____ to the little guy but that doesn't mean the little guy wont eat it up and spit it right back in the big guys face after driving his 200 hp XB, home built turbo kit and many home fabricated parts and being the only one in the us who did it ____ i think i might start tonight thanks for the motivation

but for the nice guys thanks for not making asses of your selfs

peace


While you could be a great engineer and very good at what you do, correct spelling and punctuation go a long way at portraying your professionalism.

Run your post through MS word and you'll see what I mean. Correct spelling and punctuation go a long way when presenting research for your product.

Oh, one more thing - retarted is correctly spelled as retarded.


200 hp? Are you talking rear wheel horsepower or at the crank? Twice the horsepower of the stock engine is quite a bit. Toyota definitely did not design it to handle that much power. My guess is that the bottom end will have to be built up to sustain that kind of power.

Also, you have to consider whether or not the entire drivetrain will handle this power. Will the tranny hold up to it? It's easy to replace a clutch, but who makes a beefed up tranny that will mate to the 1.5?

For anyone considering this, you're gonna have to upgrade a lot of other stuff to be able to handle this power. Suspension and brakes especially. Now that your car will hit 100 mph easily, you're gonna need to stop faster too.

yes i need new internals once i get that high but i know where to get pistons and rods. but its the sleeves i found a place online. dont know if there good sleeves or not . or if they will make me one. there advertisement said like any toyota honda and others. and i just got a email back from a parts finder saying they have found me a 2nd head for the xb. and i was gonna of course try to look at the actual head before buying and see if i can bore the intake and exust ports and. go to napa and get the head shaved a lil and bore the intake and exaust valve ports a lil bit and also keep the origanl head just incase the mod one ____s on me and ill have a car to drive while i do the work to the head. but of course its all gonna take a lil time. but i not expecting just the turbo to add the increase cuz im doing i think if the block holds and the trany and axel dont ____ this engine will get at least 230 through 260 with and then just need a lil spray you gotta

1.turbo
2.intake manifold and exaust header all the way back (high flow cat now got that taken care of)

3.throttle body
4.boost controller
5.intercooler
6.fuelrail (maybe 2nd stand alone pump and regulator)
7.injectors
8. and all vvti controller, afc, turbo timer

then aside from that i want rods pistons head bored and moded and of coarse a 2 or 3 stage clutch

and while im at it anyone know the torque specs of the cv axles and joints and if there are any aftermarket ones. thanks

ok, listen man. :? You need to tone it down a bit and remember that we are here to help you, but your really pushing some buttons here on the board. :roll: You gotta remember also that, since you are a vtec dude that its gonna be a bit different to adjust to our motor design. VTEC can be felt when its activated. VVTI is constant, you will never feel it.

Now if you need some help on the situation, then we are here. But you also gotta realize that we are gonna ask some questions too. Be it mean or nice, thats the way the boards are. Some will always post something and someone will always post the same thing, but show it in a better way. You just have to deal with it or not say anything. Especially if your a newbie, your first responces will be remembered. 8)

My 2 cents

MOKOCUSTOMS:




what do you drift in?

MOKOCUSTOMS:




what do you drift in?

His 10spd Huffy mountain bike =)

actually not!!! ive never let anyone work on any of my car for the past 3 years i'm 18 and know alot the only thing i didnt know about is that i didnt know if i was jsut a emissions thing cuz if it is you can get rid easily do you know the correct resitor of hand or do i just need to do the math if anyones knows itll save me time thanks

maybe something that would help is if you drop what you're doing right now, stop what you're doing with the turbo, and go back to school. im just curious but did you fail english?

ok sorry for the little attitude but i was getting a little mad thinking what the hell these people we all obviously like toyotas so why we making fun and jabbing i tought this post would bring a little more motavation but i feel the hell with the post ill just do it blow a few motors up and ____ its not like ill die lifes about experience ____ if its outa your pocket it sucks but ya get over it and never do it again unless you want to but anyways im not putting greddy down cuz they obviously did something right cuz there big and all i ment was they got almost the smallest aftermarket turbo on it i know its not designed for drag or anything but the 50% increase you get with blitz and trd superchargers i dont see why they didnt get more compeditive and you guys are also right when you say vvti and vtec arnt the same but still everyone got my point i dont know im just not used to saying vvti . vtec is easier but i didnt want to get into big detail about how vtec and vvti are alike i just said they are after like a week of hearing vvti i was like what the hell is that so i found out and i think its somewhat better than vtec mostly because you could make a cam way easier but for now i think shouldnt be so frickin negative i know you all probally like this 18 year old turbo by himself yeh ok well ill keep you updated on it
peace out

Periods, like this .

MOKOCUSTOMS:




what do you drift in?

His 10spd Huffy mountain bike =)

nah he drifts in his turbo powerd tricycle with plastic wheels

who cares about punctuation...spelling....grammar.....none of you are english teachers...

who cares about punctuation...spelling....grammar.....none of you are english teachers...

i care.. and it appears most of us care..

does that answer your question?

basic english skills really go a long way for most of us.. i actually finished high school and college!

who cares about punctuation...spelling....grammar.....none of you are english teachers...

Spelling, grammar, and punctuation, while not perfect, really make it easy to read ideas presented here on the board.

Imagine if your text books in school were written with poor grammar, spelling, and punctuation.


Back on subject....
You may be able to design your 200 hp 1ZZ (or whatever the engine code is for Toyota - they never make sense to me), but can you build reliability into it? Greddy, HKS, and all the others have well-educated mechanical engineers that not only look to implement more power into their designs, but they also test the reliabiltiy. You can't just slap parts together, you need to do research and developement over a period of time. They have the dynamometers and other testing equipment to test exactly what it is going on the engine.

What may work on your engine may not apply to other engines. Because these engines are built on assembly lines, the tolerances of each part may not be the same on every engine. Engineers at HKS, etc. take this into account.

I'm not saying you can't do it - in fact I'd like to see you succeed, but my main concern is reliabiltiy. Especially when you take into consideration that none of the xB's are out of warranty here (with the exceptions of people that have already managed to void the warranty or put 60,000 miles on the thing).

That crack don't smoke itself!~~~~~~scott

I'm not saying you can't do it - in fact I'd like to see you succeed.

Again.

Nuff said.

So basically you will be spending roughly 7k on doing your turbo, fmic, total rebuild, etc...etc...for a measely 200hp

for 4k I could swap your engine and promise you 250hp in a month


where do you get your money for this?

on top of that, you need to learn how to type/write complete sentences. It's sometimes hard to read what you're trying to write.

on top of that, you need to learn how to type/write complete sentences. It's sometimes hard to read what you're trying to write.


sometimes? Try a majority of the time.

MOKOCUSTOMS:




what do you drift in?

His 10spd Huffy mountain bike =)

nah he drifts in his turbo powerd tricycle with plastic wheels

Oh yeah...totally forgot. And lets not leave out the hubcap spinners on that beast of a tricycle. :wink:

i blame my grammar and spelling on ADD. i think so damn fast that it comes out all messed up.

ok theres alot of questions to answer and im prob the nicest guy you can meet and it takes alot to mess with my head but. yeh i know what you all are saying about my typing but i aint used to wirting posts. i use aim or phone. but you all asked what i dift in and how i get money. and how im gonna make my car reliable.

ok im not saying its the best thing to do but my dads old neighborhood had dirt roads and we had a 1983 vw scirraco it kicked ___ we stripped it sense it was ____ and just messed with it i taught myself how to drive fast take turns speed so when i finally got a good car i wouldnt mess it up but i got my dad truck. it was a 94 s10 v6 262 180 horse it halled ___ for a first car. i did intake headers exaust 5 inch drop nitro active shicks to stiff it up. 50 245 series tires all around and a crazy crazy system for a s10 i had lot of time money in it then totalled it a week after i saw the xb at toyota. but knowing me and my crazy driving i started driving fast around corners at night then that wasnt enough then behind a chevy dealer theres about a 15 turn street that flow like an indy coarse in was fun as hell every night after work around 12 i would go out with my friends there and drift the rain was kinda scary cuz the roads got scary cuz there was like 1 1/2 foot pudlles on the side of road. but 2 of my friends have s10s and when we graduate he leaves to go to airforce and letting me put all my parts on it so ittl be like mine again.

but luckily im still in high scool last year class 04 its bout time just hope i past english lol not a susprise but i aced all math classes united states math award but C's or D's in english got a few B's no really to interested in moby dick im in the back reading super street or sport truck or texting friends

i live at home starting serving at durango steak house better than outback try it if you come to florida but my best friends mom is the general manager so ive been there sense i was 15 and i work 6 or 7 shifts a week turning at least 80 a night up to 100 and for no bills except cell phone and food and gas and car and insurance i still end up with lots of cash thanks god sense i like buying stuff for the xb


and for the engine reliablility i;m making it for my wants pretty much so if the bock or head of trany last a year or 2 i dont reallly care but i mean it should be a pretty nice xb after a lil engine work

i started port and polishing my 3hp briggs mini bike enige fabed a custom frame it goes like 35 can do wheelies down the road already burns out fun stuff


thanks for not so much negativity its actually not hell any more in a post lol

cya

ok theres alot of questions to answer and im prob the nicest guy you can meet and it takes alot to mess with my head but. yeh i know what you all are saying about my typing but i aint used to wirting posts. i use aim or phone. but you all asked what i dift in and how i get money. and how im gonna make my car reliable.

ok im not saying its the best thing to do but my dads old neighborhood had dirt roads and we had a 1983 vw scirraco it kicked ___ we stripped it sense it was ____ and just messed with it i taught myself how to drive fast take turns speed so when i finally got a good car i wouldnt mess it up but i got my dad truck. it was a 94 s10 v6 262 180 horse it halled ___ for a first car. i did intake headers exaust 5 inch drop nitro active shicks to stiff it up. 50 245 series tires all around and a crazy crazy system for a s10 i had lot of time money in it then totalled it a week after i saw the xb at toyota. but knowing me and my crazy driving i started driving fast around corners at night then that wasnt enough then behind a chevy dealer theres about a 15 turn street that flow like an indy coarse in was fun as hell every night after work around 12 i would go out with my friends there and drift the rain was kinda scary cuz the roads got scary cuz there was like 1 1/2 foot pudlles on the side of road. but 2 of my friends have s10s and when we graduate he leaves to go to airforce and letting me put all my parts on it so ittl be like mine again.

but luckily im still in high scool last year class 04 its bout time just hope i past english lol not a susprise but i aced all math classes united states math award but C's or D's in english got a few B's no really to interested in moby dick im in the back reading super street or sport truck or texting friends

i live at home starting serving at durango steak house better than outback try it if you come to florida but my best friends mom is the general manager so ive been there sense i was 15 and i work 6 or 7 shifts a week turning at least 80 a night up to 100 and for no bills except cell phone and food and gas and car and insurance i still end up with lots of cash thanks god sense i like buying stuff for the xb


and for the engine reliablility i;m making it for my wants pretty much so if the bock or head of trany last a year or 2 i dont reallly care but i mean it should be a pretty nice xb after a lil engine work

i started port and polishing my 3hp briggs mini bike enige fabed a custom frame it goes like 35 can do wheelies down the road already burns out fun stuff


thanks for not so much negativity its actually not hell any more in a post lol

cya

MUCH BETTER! i see paragraphs! :D

Dont mean to jump in so late in the thread. but with the size motor the scions have the ammount of restriction lost by removing the cat will not help performande enuf to make the effort worth wile. My other car is a PT Cruiser, and the back pressure at 2000rpm measured at the O2 sensor is not to exceed .5 psi for trouble shooting. Yes that is a half pound of pressure. A high flow cat will reduce it to almost non existant and be legal. With she scion motor about half the size the same can be achieved with a hi flow cat.

I have been round and round on this on other forums. But with todays technology in cats, the restriction is no longer there like they used to be. When they statred on cars every body had 302 or larger motor running a carb, and they just dropped a cat in the exhaust system. And yea it killed the motor with a can full of caramic beads. Now the cat is a integral part of the whole system of a car, and have advanced to the point thay can do the conversions they need to with very little restriction.

Am I the only one here who thinks this actually will work??

Am I the only one here who thinks this actually will work??


No, you're not. This CAN work. However, it's not really a question of whether it could work or not, it's a question of whether it is worth the time, money, and effort.

Chevy guys can extract 900+ horsepower out of their built 2.0 liter ecotec engines, so 200 hp out of a 1.5 liter can be done. However, the built ecotec cost a hell of a lot of money to build and the service intervals are TINY on it.


Now, what I'd like to see is for someone to swap in the MR2 motor with a turbo and the MR2's sequential manual (retuned so it actually shifts like a sequential :? ) into the xB or xA. Now that would be a pretty cool car.