I was wondering how many other scion drivers are ___? When I first got the xB, one of my str8 friends said they thought the xB would be popular in the ___ community. I was just curious because I have read NUMEROUS posts on hot girls with their scions and such.
So if you are ___ and own a scion post here....

When I first read the title I thought you were SciFly with a new s/n :silly:

There are some on here. Some of the more prominent posters are ___.

But it seems like everytime a thread like this gets started it goes bad real quick.

Yes, I see the avatar thread nearby. I'm ___ and I'm hated here by secret dis-admirers.

Not a safe topic. We can speak of girls in specialty threads without ending.

But homophobia runs deep. Straight guys do not like to share page space with open-talking gays.

Banned once for this, about to get banned again on trumped charges Again.

kill thread or they'll get you too, bro.

Banned once for this, about to get banned again on trumped charges Again.

kill thread or they'll get you too, bro.
Uh.... what?

kevinxB or however he has his name is ___ too. But you'd know by his avatar... :silly:

you weren't on the Mod team back then, ack. Let them fill you in.

Kevin is great. He does not force issues like this. I do because the only self-defense I have is to tell the entire truth about this place and I'm all prepped to do this with the newfound spare time I'll shortly find weighing on my hands.

thanks, you're OK but lets understand the bottom line:

I am not off base in my deductions, I do lack total accuracy in minor details of past eventsm because I must work from memory, because my posting record was totally expunged, including PM correspondence. Only the Team has access to that stuff and they do not share it with me.


to theTeam:

When I am locked out this time, I -demand- that entire record be removed, if vandalism is the order as it was the last time when I was on SL as xBoxer.
Either take it all down, nor none; not one thread removed, not one more posting removed from the record. Recently the entire, retired "Lame ___ Euphemized" thread was removed. At least, I cannot find it by any search yet. Retired Off Topic posts exist going back to 2004. This newly destroyed thread of mine was made only a few months ago.

No selective cleaning out of this SciFly record, if you please.

no!

My ex is ___ and is always giving me a hard time about driving an ice cream truck :P

Yes, I see the avatar thread nearby. I'm ___ and I'm hated here by secret dis-admirers.

Not a safe topic. We can speak of girls in specialty threads without ending.

But homophobia runs deep. Straight guys do not like to share page space with open-talking gays.

Banned once for this, about to get banned again on trumped charges Again.

kill thread or they'll get you too, bro.

hey, I have been reading your posts on here for a long time, you are very informative. I have never gotten anything but help or humor from anything you have posted, I think it is ridiculous for you to be banned. The whole avatar thread was great! Hope you stick around.

Doug

Lets keep this on topic por favor

Reid if you need to vent take your fight over to website discussion or speak to Darren.

speak to Darren.
I'd say that one... a thread would just turn bad, real quick.

I'll try to keep an eye on this thread to make sure it stays clean.

:P

If wishes were fishers,
I'd smell like a whale
dead on the sands,
dead, gutted, stale.

If whales could be wiser
than I've proved to be,
they avoid beaching.

Swim toward the sea

speak to Darren.
I'd say that one... a thread would just turn bad, real quick.

I'll try to keep an eye on this thread to make sure it stays clean.

thank you for real moderating. If you have not already, it would be my
wish to lock the avatar thread. If Tom wants to add to it later on he may unlock
and do so. This way it won't turn into even more of a Sci sob fest.

*me* cough cough :D okay, I am officialy 'out' on scionlife, ya happy now KevinxB?! HUH?

But yeah, everytime I tell someone I drive a Scion they say 'yeah, I figured that much, most ___ people do.' WHAT?!

I already knew you were.

I have awesome gaydar, even on over the internet.........lol.

:O you knew?!?!

It wasn't quite as easy as Reid or Kevin, but ya.

I honestly can't even tell you how you I knew.

I knew as well because you said so in one of SciFly's threads atleast I think so

am I ___ Jon? :silly:

I think you are asexual.

^^^LOL @ asexual, forgive me if I am wrong, but isnt that what worms are?

*in response to Franken's 'Gaydar' LOL, awsome :D most people say its cuz I'm too nice, atleast that is what they said in the Pac. NorthWest forum.....Sorry, getting back on topic... Most *___* people I know drive PT Cruisers, and now one of my friends just traided in the Cruiser for the HHR. I dunno, the PT is more popular than the xB for ___ people around here.

I think you are asexual.
:shock: He is a witch burn him! :P :rofl:

a·sex·u·al P Pronunciation Key (-sksh-l)
adj.
Having no evident sex or sex organs; sexless.
Relating to, produced by, or involving reproduction that occurs without the union of male and female gametes, as in binary fission or budding.
Lacking interest in or desire for sex.

OH MY! I just copyed and pasted for those of us that werent quite sure. But hey I WAS right :D

:rofl:

I think P is tribecca
(???i don't know what that is either)


Gone without explanation:
A harmless thread about ___ tolerance, containing fine anecdotes, with not one word of rancor. It was recently erased by some person or persons on the Team.
-It was a thread of my authorship.
-It was not pro-___.
I-t was pro-tolerance of ___ people.
-It told of men and women I knew who were really fine people, who are now dead by
murder or illness.
-It was not suggestive.
-It told of my recent chance-remeeting with the only girl I ever took on a date, back in eighth grade. That was a warm story. We hugged and she remembered to me when she saw me that day a few months ago "Reid, is that Reid Welch? I'm Peggy! Peggy K! You took me on my first date ever! Do you recall?" And I replied "Not only do I vividly recall but I have something to tell -you-. That was my last date with a girl, too!" December, 1967

That's all gone now.
No thanks to whoever in the mod squad who vandalizes my clean record here again.
http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/9232/screenshot2482sz.th.jpg (http://img322.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2482sz.jpg)
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For an example of one of my favorite thread creations: page one in particular of this one:
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=80085&start=50

And do you all know why I do this (I will restate what i wrote in the avatar thread)

-I create topics and humor and good tech info to amuse, instruct and influence people to behave more gently to each other. I do this because I have the natual ability to write poorly in funny ways (sometimes!) :rofl:

anywho, you see one of my latest portraits in that page one of the link, where I wield a stolen chainsaw. That head was my avatar for one day.

I've cut it off again.

oh we ___s loooove to make drama, do'int weeee. :P

back to topic.*.*.*.

Well, I go to a dominantly ___ school, at least in the music department (Oklahoma City University..OCU....aka Out of the Closet University)...I have several ___ friends and most like my xA and like tCs..my room-mate is ___ and he hates the xB

Damn P, you keep getting younger, maybe you're the witch. :silly:

Right. I don't suppose the xB appeals to gays in particular.
It has no boy-catching status. It has the oddest lines of any car on the road.

It is not... projecting a Calvin Klein image. If anything, xB is a car in jockey shorts and I just gave it a wedgie. But xB does not mind or take offense. It knows that only a select few can "get it"

At the Clark Howard forum I defuse xB haters
http://clarkhoward.com/p/boards/ch/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=clarkhowardcars&Number=538417&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&part=
and then went on to make publicity for self and for xB, because we all know it's a pretty good and special little car:
http://clarkhoward.com/p/boards/ch/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=clarkhowardcars&Number=538475&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&part=

I see a-sexual as a person not wanting to have sex with ANYONE

Here is the Urbandictionary.com definition
1. asexual link send redefine 47 up, 3 down
a person who is not interested in or does not desire sexual activity, either within or outside of a relationship. asexuality is not the same as celibacy, which is the willful decision to not act on sexual feelings. asexuals, while not physically sexual-type folks, are none the less quite capable of loving, affectionate, romantic ties to others.

hmm...interesting P, hey just one question, before we get back on topic again...is that you in the picture?

OK, Back On Topic!
But to ask P for his picture will just result in.... well, wait and see... ha ha ha

No that pic is some singer in some emo band he likes.

He likes it because it adds to the ambiguous aura he likes to keep around him.

OMFG Placebo is not EMO!!!! Jon ur lucky you arent florida because saying that will get you a swift kick in the family jewels from me :tap:

:rofl:



Well he looks emo to me. :wink:

*you must be REALLY creepy...cuz I'm creepy, and I put up my pic...but if you are that creepy, thanks :D

OK, Back On Topic!

you are not creepy and neither am I

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1268/screenshot0755mv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



and this is not a flattering pic of myself. Had been working outside in the heat, came in to bounce Ray-Ray for joy (oh he loves to get tossed!). His 91 year old great grandfather, Raymond, snapped this picture. We are neighbors. Ray knows I am ___. Ray is a conservative Catholic and he -bought himself an RS2 three days after I got mine-. So it's not a very ___ car, is it! :rofl: We have no secrets whatsoever. Only mutual love and respect in caring one for the other. Baby Ray will grow up this way too.

Reid I dont know who lied to you but you are creepy :silly:

yes, I also see you were wearing one of those springy plastic cord thingys that holds your keys. I love babies.... no it is established that Scion is no more Popular in the ___ community than any other car, and far less popular than some other cars *cough* PT Cruiser *cough* I think it is time for SciFly, Franken, Placebo, and I to have our own BS thread, waddya think mods? :)

Ok, but you will admit you never saw any other cockroach boldly walking in the daylight.

*and he wonders why he gets stomped at*

Ya, if I was mod ( :silly: ) I would split most of our posts into a tangent thread.

Once Reid goes off in a tangent I start its like a freakin domino affect

yes, I also see you were wearing one of those springy plastic cord thingys that holds your keys. I love babies.... no it is established that Scion is no more Popular in the ___ community than any other car, and far less popular than some other cars *cough* PT Cruiser *cough* I think it is time for SciFly, Franken, Placebo, and I to have our own BS thread, waddya think mods? :)

And so this proves you are either ___ or a reincarnation of Sherlock Holmes :loser: because only these have such powers of embarssingly- minute observation.

I wear my keys lately on that springy spiral plastic think because it's the only way I don't misplace keys. It's not a middle age thing. I've never ever remembered where I left keys until I wore the band. New idea: Implant neodymium super magnets under my nipples and keep the handcuff keys from getting similarly misplaced.

*am NOT :lalala: creeeepy*

I should get paid for stabbing my dignity for public spectacle. But I do just plain enjoy clowning around. Always have. Not a ___ thing. Just a reid thing.

def. time for a thread for us, the mods can clean it, etc. We know how to keep it clean, its just the visitors to 'our' threads that mess it up :D come on mods, we really need this, it would keep alot of other threads safe from being hi-jacked like this one, it would leave only one thread for you to randomly clean up :D But hey, we did establish that Scion is not abnormaly popular in the ___ community, just like the original poster asked :D

PS: I put the keys in my pocket while I played with Ray Ray. And promptly forgot them and so through the washing machine they went, along with a remote. sheesh.

But,, like this thread, the end result was clean. :eyebrow:

may we have some more portraits of ___ members in this thread? Am I to be the only one shucking.... clothing inside the next pages? And I do mean this in a clean way. ME as buff boy. many have seen. few would vote me down way back then..

No! no beefcake Sci unless I see regular fine pictures of ___ members' daily life first.

What's creepy is the fact that Sam noticed the ring around Reids arm.

My wife and I thought we were playing "Where's Waldo?" trying to find the damn keys. :tap:

Ya, if I was mod ( :silly: ) I would split most of our posts into a tangent thread.
I'd never get anything else done... :lalala:

There's no way a thread can be just for you guys... people would come and go... the thread would get messed up and then another would start... and another... and another... It's just not worth it.

Please try to keep things on topic - no matter what thread you're in.

http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/sad.gif

sorry ack. it was just an Idea, I have tryed to keep it on topic...but off it goes again, hey, atlest we got the guy his answer.
LOL @ "Were's Waldo?"

What's creepy is the fact that Sam noticed the ring around Reids arm.



I was thinking wtf is he talking about and I kept looking at the pic and I just now see it.

Wow that dude has great attention detail he will make a great CSI person

LOL :silly: thanks, I am an artist, what can I say, sorry Sci, I dont have any other pics of me, I have one of a peice of art that I did though :eyebrow:

Oh there is a Lesbian somewhere on this site I saw an avatar that says "I am a lesbian" or something. ::shrugs::

Well, I'm not ___, but some of my very good friends are, and lol, they think the xB is just too funny looking. They both drive a Mazda3 and a Toyota 4 Runner.

I think that it's more of a stereotype for gays to be in a small, fuel efficient car such as a Hybrid.

SirScion, your teeth are too white and your hair is too well put together to be straight lol. ;)

thankyou for bringing this back on topic....then off again. :silly: thanks for the compliment though.

TO THE chat room!

There is no chat room. I do know of perinneal threads where the regulars talkabout bazzoomiest girls and favorite body parts and that's all fine.. soo

Since this thread has answered its questions about gays in Scions, then just start up a social thread if we can't morph this one in that direction.

I don't think anyone wants to make oogly threads about men but we do like to meet one another for the variously diferent people we are.

For the oggly part of life there are other venues. But, as I say: I do not like double standards. No minority group could like double standards. Careful moderation is the key. If in doubt, ask Kevin xB. He's a very clear and careful thinker. It would not be amiss to have one openly ___ moderator on board at SL.

Nominating Kevin xB now for -them- to think about. Nice guy. Sherlock-ian in his clear thinking, in word-parsing, as is the man who made out he marks on my upper arm a master of visual deductions. Not elementary, Watsons. Geniuses.

There is a chat room Reid. Click on the "forums" button at the top.
Right above the map is a link to the chatroom.

Oh, you mean that AIM chat outboard feature.

ehhh,.. Allergy to Aim: I don't have AIM and don't want to pollute this new computer with AOL crap-invasive software at this time. When I tried to put it in the old computer I did not succeed (my ineptitude) but damn AOL files were everywhere and some vestiges I just could not remove.
AIM sucks if I were asked. Let me know if I miss any juicy gossip, maybe?

You are.

Jack and Cary are long-time social friends and have been a couple for about thirty years. And they are pretty progressive thinking. And they pretended -fairly convincingly- to get me to think they liked the demo ride I gave them in the new xB.

oh its' really... cute, Reid. My what a lot of room. And the color, yes, your old car was black and got smacked so you got a safe color but it certainly is bright!

ha ha. And of all my ___ friends this was the only "kudo" to having bought xB.

wtf is going on?

I just re-tracked the thread? Spoke about gays likiing Scions?

OK!

So, how unpopular is the Scion with the ___ "community" (whuts that?)

IF I park on Saturday night at the busiest ___ club in South Miami and in the lot there is almost no space left, it goes like this:
-nose the scion up to a barely-wide enough space between to "___ cars".
-the ___ cars are revulsed
- and actually slide closer to each other to shun the xB.

Really?

no


I think I just told a half-true lie :crazy:

i think i'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body....does that count?

It counts for a fifth leg is all.

:doh:

It counts for a fifth leg is all.

:doh:

well played.

((Whistling innocently )) as he walks by :rofl:

It counts for a fifth leg is all.

:doh:

well played.
thanky! -----more truth fresh hatched owing to your wit
Men! -or- An Insect's Further Observation

"Men are loathsome bugs on legs!"
say a few women I don't lay.

"Men are cockroaches!",
those lesbians agree.

Well, then, fine and good.
That leaves more of them for me.


:rofl:

((Whistling innocently )) as he walks by :rofl:

Well, what do Jacksonville gays think of your car?
You must know some? :ttth:
You having a TC, I just bet the reactions are all pretty good?

Ohh damn draggin me out LOL , Hmmmm I smell something burning (looks aroudn) great Im tied to the stake again , DAM it LoL . I dunno I dont really hang out that much , most seem to like the tC but there are others that dont like it . Personally i just see it as a regular car LOL . Now a VW Cabriolet or a Miata LOL that screams ___ to me , but what do I know I ride a Harley (the bike ya sick basta$ds) :rofl:

VW Cabriolet or a Miata LOL

Good. So you are from the planet Q 2. Alien!

---
OK, back to the topic :rofl:

narrow fork to the left: You listed two cars that, now that I think of it, are verrrry poofy.
I would not want either, being a regular guy myself.

Funny though! Let's list cars that our more stylish-oriented ___ola acquaintances drive or favor:

-whut you just said TC: cabrio or miata.
-the Brrrritish Jag-u-wahr (I swear those limies irritate me with that prounuciation!)
-any of the small, uber-$$$ MB cars, old or new

Point: In warm weather places, single and paired guys in convertibles= whoa, Nellie! meaning pretty likely to be ___.

And if you see a car with a "rainbow sticker" that car is never driven by a ___ guy. It is always a lesbian inside. Or a straight guy wishing he were a lesbian. Sammmmme thing.
:rofl:

homosexual...strait doesnt matter to me i dun have many ___ friends although i do questoin some who say they are starit...but when i was a hiring person i did tend to hire a lotta homesexual people...for some reason they know how to act and are usually more qualified for the job ...but doesnt matter to me

I am not much into ___ mainstream , I think the most I am into the ___ way of life is watchin "Will and Grace" . Other wise I am a redneck through and through LOL . Most are shocked to find out , but then I guess the shaved head , goatee , tattoos and body piercings pullin up on a harley in full leather scares the hell out of most of them . Most dont know I am from talkin to me or being around me , and to be honest its not really anyones buisness anyways . I had a friend once get a Miata , and he was joking about putting the pride flag on it . I told him with him driving it with the top down there was no need for the sticker :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: , Im the kinda friend everyone needs LOL

"I told him with him driving it with the top down there was no need for the sticker"

Hahaha! Yeah, so that -trend- is confirmed: Guys in a convertible!


Im the kinda friend everyone needs LOL
no joke now. yes, you are. and I thank you for coming out here...

...takes gumption, it does.

cheers,
me

Ok, wow my thread has gone so many places in so little time.....LOL.....

On topic: I think my friends said they thought it would be a ___ friendly car because it was a fringe styled car. I personally think the cars that are labeled as ___ are extreme stereotypical. For instance the Jeep wranglers and mazda miatas (which we share with divorced women JK).

Of topic: as for the whole chatting thing and staying on topic, what if we made a thread with a topic-less heading. Something like "Just Chatting". What would the moderators think?

I think that any group of people is going to have a diverse selection of cars. ___, Straight, religious groups, ethic background etc. We all have different likes and dislikes.

Why would someone who is ___ be any different? I think any one of us could go to a ___ bar and not see a parking lot full of Scions.

I don’t see someone sexuality being a driving force in deciding which car/truck to buy.

Disagree! (guffaw)

Truckers, a lot of them, choose Peterbilts

:nope: go a thousand Macks.
:come: and get your lights punched out for that, Sci


:silly: Sci says he is sawwwwy for that crack :silly:

I don’t see someone sexuality being a driving force in deciding which car/truck to buy.

of course not. looking at it from the choosers point of view, any person can choose any car; people have varying taste. but looking at it from the chosen side, certain cars, are "generally" chosen by ____ people. imo, in order they seem to be:

vw cabriolet
vw jetta
vw bug (new version)
mazda miata
jeep wrangler
bmw 3series convertible

certainly not all of these cars are driven by ____ people and not all ____ people drive these cars.

just like all hummers are not driven by men with small you know whats, not all chrysler 300s with 24" wheels are driven by african-americans, not all camaros and firebirds are driven by new jersey gold chain wearing italians or drug dealers, not all older monte carlos and impalas with spoke wheels are driven by hispanics, etc....however, you cannot deny patterns that seem to exist.

Hey I used to love my Peterbuilt truck when I was driving up and down the east coast LOL . You best lay off LOL , I hated the Volvos and I hated Kenworths . Dont get me wrong the Kenworths are nice but I prefer a Peterbuilt anyday :love:

my friend(___) thinks im hotter cuz i drive a box, and hes gonna get one soon, but now he might wait for the t2b

OK, there are some good points here. As far as truckers preferring Peterbilt’s, not sure about that one either. The #1 selling class 8 truck is Freightliner.

There maybe a little truth to the list of cars. VW has targeted the ___ community some and that may help their sales.

Do you guys really think that if you went to a ___ bar, there would be some vehicle or a few different vehicles that stood out in the crowd?

I know that most lesbians I see drive mini-suvs, like the CRV.

And that is just from my personal experience.

and I have noticed lesbians like small trucks like Isuzu pup trucks as well as Kia Sportage and they like Subarus LOL

next thought: a google image search for what peeps think about when they write "___ car" or "lesbian car" and in the plural for more results.

uh oh, alot of rich rappers are going to be very upset... (found under: ___ cars)

http://www.___.com/images/slides/new_cars/2_chrysler300c.jpg

It looks like we were all wrong, found at the bottom of the first page when searching for 'lesbian cars'

http://www.mglff.com/logos/three_scions.jpg

well, that rips it.

In America, things are very different. Subaru, for instance, actively targets the ___ and lesbian community. Its Forester is regarded as the lesbian car of choice. Subaru even sponsors a ___ credit card.
http://www.channel4.com/4car/feature/topten/topten-2551/drag-queens.html

http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/___-Lesbian/Images/lil-keys.gif
http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/___-Lesbian/letters-6.html

they promote an agenda?????
:flame: Well, that reallly rips it!
Boycott Subaru


... only boycott, not girlcott.

:rofl:

Scion does mean a "branch" or an "offshoot" so i'd venture to guess that the Scion brand would be popular since the ___ community is an offshoot of the straight community. And how does someone go to a ___ school?

I only know 3 homosexuals that have had Scions...all xBs. All the other ___ guys I know with Scions are ___ in a different way...

:tap:

predominantly...grr spelling is what bugs me the most!

predominantly...grr spelling is what bugs me the most!

did u notice he also spelled students wrong :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

He didn't say it was a ___ school, just that the studuents are predominantly ___.

students*

yes, of course Placebo, you should know me better than to miss somthing like that, but that could have easily been a typo, I don't get after people for typos. :D

You know I notice everything!

You all have fun with it.

oh, come on Franky, you know we love you! (in a completely platonic manner) :D

I think somebody needs a hug! :silly:

I missed something and am confused by the student thing so just let it pass now.

Interesting:
Scion does mean a "branch" or an "offshoot" so i'd venture to guess that the Scion brand would be popular since the ___ community is an offshoot of the straight community. And how does someone go to a ___ school?

I don't see "communities" in my life. Well, only the one: human society.
If I belonged to ___ orgs, then I'd say "yokay", to lable of "community of activists". But I don't belong to any such things nowadays.

Speaking only for myself, I don't like to schism people into "communities".
If I were a Catholic, sure! I'd be a member of the Catholic community.
(illustration)
But! I happen to have no interest in religion of any kind. But this does not make me a member of any "atheist community", for I don't know what -that- would be and would not join into any organized anti-God groups.

Similarly I don't join into pro-anything groups or communities other than the one community here: of reasoning people.

For we gays to set ourselves apart (together?) in a "community" is of course, giving the wrong impression to some other peoples. Some gays may join special interest organizations with agendas (as do straight people, theirs). Again, I do not call this an overall community/ compartmentalization effect.

Anyway, "we" (whatever "we" means to gays) are not an offshoot community from the community of Humans. We are at best, a catorgory or subset for demographic purposes only. We gays are not separate, new or even different from the mainstream except in our bedrooms, really.

Bottom line: Gays are not an offshoot of the "straight community". We are all of one-only community. To consider the big picture otherwise is to perpetuate division, to maintain some sort of ghettoization of the past to continue.
In my opinion this is unacceptable. Particularly because enemies of we minority gays use the "community" lable to excoriate us for our "agenda", our desire to live on equal terms in every venue, phase and role in society.


-need to pare this down somehow, but for now I play safe to cover all the semantical bases-
thanks!

I remember reading a publication earlier this year rating the the ___ community's favorite cars and the Mazda RX-8 was at the top of the list. I dont remember if any scions appeared on the list or not.

I guess a google search can turn up almost anything? Interest peaked, here's just one result. A discussion from a rotary forum:



subject:

Shinka
author:

No Rotor
date:

November 8, 2004 - 7:17pm
Maybe this version of the RX8 was made for the US tv show "Queer eye for the straight guy"

CHEERS
MICHAEL
[ ]


subject:

Dunno mate...those guys have
author:

No Rotor
date:

November 8, 2004 - 7:33pm
Dunno mate...those guys have taste...!

Gomez.
[ ]


subject:

More power...not pretty colors...
author:

No Rotor
date:

November 9, 2004 - 1:16pm
I agree, more power and torque...not luxuary and colors...
[ ]


subject:

Looks pretty good to me
author:

No Rotor
date:

November 16, 2004 - 5:39pm
I dont know about you guys but I like this 8. I'd by this one over the regular 8.
[ ]


subject:

Since when is the RX8 not a girls car?
author:

jawnie
date:

February 21, 2005 - 11:35am
All these comments about the Shinka version being a ___/queer because of color/interior, and the girly engineers etc, are kinda funny considering that everyone knows the Mazada RX8 is a chic sport car to begin with. My girlfriend loves this new Black Cherry special edition RX8, and the interior looks terrific....for girls of course. I'm telling her to get one asap. cheers!


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It looks so damn ___.I use to respect mazda because the RX-7 looked great now it looks like a gopher.

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posted January 10, 2001 07:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Rosruc Click Here to Email Rosruc Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote The front end of the car looks like MX5, but the rear looks like some sedan. YUCKS!
it is out of proportion.
Looks like a car with a lot of potential for ricey mods.
Anyway the car may look bad, but the two rear doors are quite well hiden, it does look like a two door.

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======== :eyebrow: (am striking out so far finding real solid ___ links!). GoOd!

Thursday, April 28, 2005
Glenn Reynolds Takes a Cheap Shot at Life
Buoyed by the successful killing of Terri Schiavo, Glenn Reynolds carried this little note this morning:

IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S A WAR ON, or anything.


The link takes you to a post on the Corner, where Kathryn Lopez noted the passing of the Child Interstate Abortion Notification Act in the House.

Galley Friend C.L. writes in:

All of which makes me wonder if Glenn would be willing to trash talk Martin Luther King, Jr. After all, why should he have bothered with civil rights or basic matters of justice? It wasn't like there was a war on, or anything.


Good point.

Update, 12:00 p.m.: Reader AK adds:

Reynolds is right. There's a war on. We shouldn't spend our time worrying about other matters, like transhumanism, ___ marriage, the Mazda RX-8, campus photoblogging, the Nikon BJ6900LMNOP, our brother's bands, and space exploration.

Strike OUT here. Ha ha, no hits, no runs, no drips, no errors: The RX-8 batted straight.

Wow, this thread really surprised me. No offense Scifly but when I saw your pic I kinda knew you were ___ but I didn't really think there were many more ___ people on this forum. I guess it's because I can't see them or talk to them and pic up on their mannerisms. I'm straight as Indian hair, married to my beautiful wife and have a wonderful son who'll be three next month. But anyway, I go to a school that focuses a lot on art, nursing, and culinary. I am the only straight guy in my entire program and I cannot tell you how many times a guy or girl come up to me thinking I am ___. It doesn't bother me. I really think it's kinda funny. Girls will talk to me about stuff that they wouldn't normally talk to a straight guy about and then they see my wedding ring and are like "Oh my God" I thought you were ___. Guy's will smile at me and try to sit next to me. It's really funny. Sometimes I play along with the girls. They'll be like "are you married?" and I'll say something like "well yeah, me and my partner went to Massachusetts to get married and then came back here". Then I'll tell them the truth. Well, I just took this thing way off topic. Sorry!

I got ___ and lesbian friends some of them drive scions.....

the girl drives an xB and the guy a tC...

--- and sam it didnt even cross my mind.. until you kinda spilled it the other time.... Funny how not even the dance you did at jillians gave it away.... lol! just kidding! Forgive me for not having a gayday like jon! haha

LOL, its Gaydar Nance...I did a little dance at jillians? :eyes:

I didn't think ___ men liked "boxes" :lalala: eeeer bad joke. Ill go now :)

yea you did a lil dance... cant you remember???

I didn't think ___ men liked "boxes" :lalala: eeeer bad joke. Ill go now :)

:question:

I didn't think ___ men liked "boxes" :lalala: eeeer bad joke. Ill go now :)

:question:

___-Me sez with a blush of self-denial:

The ONLY box I've ever been in
Is RS2...with out wim in

:)

Wow, this thread really surprised me. No offense Scifly but when I saw your pic I kinda knew you were ___ but I didn't really think there were many more ___ people on this forum. I guess it's because I can't see them or talk to them and pic up on their mannerisms. I'm straight as Indian hair, married to my beautiful wife and have a wonderful son who'll be three next month. But anyway, I go to a school that focuses a lot on art, nursing, and culinary. I am the only straight guy in my entire program and I cannot tell you how many times a guy or girl come up to me thinking I am ___. It doesn't bother me. I really think it's kinda funny. Girls will talk to me about stuff that they wouldn't normally talk to a straight guy about and then they see my wedding ring and are like "Oh my God" I thought you were ___. Guy's will smile at me and try to sit next to me. It's really funny. Sometimes I play along with the girls. They'll be like "are you married?" and I'll say something like "well yeah, me and my partner went to Massachusetts to get married and then came back here". Then I'll tell them the truth. Well, I just took this thing way off topic. Sorry!
I've been noisy and out on this forum for many months now. Am surprised you never knew this? That picture is recent. It's a crop of my triumph portrait- when I'd just nabbed a thief stealing a chainsaw. I thought it was my most butch moment: When Pollyanna peaked on testosterone. OH the shame now you say it kinda told you I'm ___? Owwwww :P
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/5210/screenshot0030rr.jpg

We find that most ___ guys cannot be "spotted" as ___. A minority of gays are fussy dressers or are affected in speech, or other ways. A minority of gays. Not most.
Most are absolutely indistinguishable from straights like you. Which is why the girls and boys at culinary presume you are ___=by your group association only.

In real life I don't employ campy speech, either. I just do it here for fun. We look for fun. The best laughs source from our most diggggnified selves.

very best,
Reid

thought it was my most butch momment: When Pollyanna peaked on testosterone. OH the shame now you say it kinda told you I'm ___? Owwwww :P
Sorry! :silly:

yea you did a lil dance... cant you remember???

nope I dont remember my 'little dance' during which part of the day did my 'little dance' take place??

edited: due to hearts broken :doh: :blah: :rofl:

rolstc is cool.

OK!

By acclamation it is resolved
-Scion xB is not a ___ car
-Unless it is on 19's

:rolling:

But homophobia runs deep. Straight guys do not like to share page space with open-talking gays.
I never understood the term "homophobia". It's misused. A "phobia", by definition, is a fear. The term homophobia literaly means...a fear of homosexuals. Just because someone may not like homosexuals, doesn't mean they are afraid of them.
There can be a distinction between how someone feels in this matter. I myself, do not approve of homosexuality. I believe it's a sin and it's against God's design for us. That does NOT mean that I dislike ___ people. We are ALL siners and it's not up to me to judge anyone. I could easily be friends with a ___ person and I try to treat everyone with respect. That doesn't mean I approve of your chosen "lifestyle". Do you see the difference? The problem is, anyone who is anything other than 100% accepting to everything ___ is labeled as a homophobe.

In a real sense I do agree with you. You are not "afraid" of gays. Certainly, not in the sense that some deeply frightened, insecure males are afraid that, somehow, the seed is in -them, too- (and that is often the case: most peeps are mixed to some degree- but never act on it or become terrified by it)

On the other hand, employing the word in it's less pure sense, religious proscriptionists (you are one such and say so), are "homophobic" in the way that your religion may well denounce gays as abominable sinners. Evil corruptors that would spread the evil through all mankind if not checked.
Some fundamentalists call us mignons of a literally-real devil.
Some call for us to be murdered (Swaggart).

Moderate people of all sorts recognize nonsense when they hear it.
Ignorate people, who might be moderate and tolerant by nature sometimes become -inculcated in the religion of homophobia by zealots of religious fringes.. or semi-mainstream, depending on how we see the question.

You don't homophobe. But your religious sect does.
I simplify only to the extent necessary to make the point.
No aggravation or challenge intended,

Reid

You don't homophobe. But your religious sect does. I simplify only to the extent necessary to make the point.
No aggravation or challenge intended,

ReidHmmm....not sure what you mean by, "your religious sect". I go to a non-denominational Bible teaching church. The Bible is pretty clear that homosexuality is wrong. But it's equaly clear that we are to love EVERYONE and to treat eachother with respect. Anyone who teaches otherwise is taking the Bible out of context. Love the siner, hate the sin. Gotta run. Catch up with you later.

i think the phobia in homophobia relates to the indivisual's fear that they might be homosexual. It doesn't mean you are afraid of gays.

Edit: oops, saw that Scifly already stated this. Sorry for reposting it. :doh:

I've always wondered something but have never really felt comfortable having this conversation with a ___ guy. Reid maybe you can give me your side of the story. Here it goes: At what point do you realize you are ___? Is it when you are young and you don't fit in with a certain crowd? Where you not into sports so you hung out with girls? Is it when you are older and just decide to experiment? Did you think it was okay to be ___?
I hope you don't take offense to these questions I just have always wondered these things because where I am from it's not really acceptable to be ___. I have never, until I started the school where I am at, been around ___ people so I have a bit of a prejudice towards the homosexual community. I have tried to understand and become accepting, which is hard for me to do. I grew up in small town Alabama and was really into sports and girls my whole life and I was raised to believe that it is wrong. I still think that it is wrong but that doesn't mean that I dislike you or anything. Like I said, it's just something that I have never been able to understand, maybe you can explain. I have friends that will get into debates over whether or not it's "pre-programmed" or not. I say "no", they say "yes". Your thoughts?

You don't homophobe. But your religious sect does. I simplify only to the extent necessary to make the point.
No aggravation or challenge intended,

ReidHmmm....not sure what you mean by, "your religious sect". I go to a non-denominational Bible teaching church. The Bible is pretty clear that homosexuality is wrong. But it's equaly clear that we are to love EVERYONE and to treat eachother with respect. Anyone who teaches otherwise is taking the Bible out of context. Love the siner, hate the sin. Gotta run. Catch up with you later.

Probably "Christianity". It's got quite a track record of prounouncing things this or that via the bible. But if we carry this branch of the discussion further it won't do eithe of us any satisfaction or alter any minds. So this is not the thread I guess to speak of moralistic implications of a natural variance in mammalian life which has always existed and must always exist because "God" made "us" this "way". Whatever any of that means.

laters? OK, by PM would be best so not to descend into theosophical areas boring and annoying to almost all of us including you.

I've always wondered something but have never really felt comfortable having this conversation with a ___ guy. Reid maybe you can give me your side of the story. Here it goes: At what point do you realize you are ___? Is it when you are young and you don't fit in with a certain crowd? Where you not into sports so you hung out with girls? Is it when you are older and just decide to experiment? Did you think it was okay to be ___?
I hope you don't take offense to these questions I just have always wondered these things because where I am from it's not really acceptable to be ___. I have never, until I started the school where I am at, been around ___ people so I have a bit of a prejudice towards the homosexual community. I have tried to understand and become accepting, which is hard for me to do. I grew up in small town Alabama and was really into sports and girls my whole life and I was raised to believe that it is wrong. I still think that it is wrong but that doesn't mean that I dislike you or anything. Like I said, it's just something that I have never been able to understand, maybe you can explain. I have friends that will get into debates over whether or not it's "pre-programmed" or not. I say "no", they say "yes". Your thoughts?

No problem speaking to answer any of your questions. All I can offer is my own perspective, my own realization: when, how but not why.
I'll do that later and -no worries, guy. Quesions are never any offense from you or anyone.

I've got to run out for a while to care for my best old buddy: A conservative Catholic 40 years my senior who I kiss on the forehead goodnight at bedtime, who I read to from the bible and to whom I cuss and swear and tell ___ stories for his straight amusement. And it's all good because we are not a "community" of anything but this: the family of humankind.

Let us not make false barriers. Wrong is not wrong except by what subdividers of humanity would teach, would put upon all men. There is no wrong in nature. There is only cultural taboo, generally implemented to help assure the success of some parochial program/ agenda. I almost want to apologize for the last sentence, except that really, it is just like that. (but now that challenges into a direction I hardly want to go deeper because it inflames Godly people and that is not my aim or desire.

later, here. reid

At what point do you realize you are ___?

Can only speak for self. Am unusual.
Discovered when I first had sexual emission, not before.
And the trigger for that interest was a certain boy's backside in the seventh grade gym class. And this was very confusing, upsetting to me. It was not my choice but it was my fate. Same goes for you, whoever is reading here.

-I came from a normal family
-No abuse, no exposure to gays in media or print or anything. Had heard ___ jokes and "knew" that was an undesirable thing (cultural training/brainwashing)
Secretive from family at puberty.
-was intensely disgusted with self
-attempted to deny those thoughts. looked over girl pictures. could do. did not like at all.

-I was fifteen and suicidal. no one to ask, no one to talk to but my best buddy who was straight and cool. He grounded me. To this day I think he saved my life by saying "reid, you're OK! I don't give a rats ___ if you like guys. It makes no difference in who you are. you are you and so what?

-have always respected people who tolerate eccentricity and can see the big picture. -The alternative is to drive teens into depths of dispair that kills many of them. Probably the leading cause of teen suicide is that mixed sexual feeling which many teens must struggle through: My family will shun me. I'll lose my friends. Disgrace my family, etc.

-I went on to join the USN to become independant and get life experience. I by age nineteen I was at peace with myself. It was that year that I met my first companion to whom I gave that first experience. And this confirmed the four prior years had been wasted in self-pity, self hate and denial which was nothing good. Was everything toxic. I could've killed myself. But I did not. I lived and continue to do so.

Feel so strongly about this -inalterable fact of basic sexual identity for each one of us to go with, as we were meant to do- by our biology! It's not choice and it's not alterable.

Now- I'm purely ___. And this is quite rare. Most all guys who identify as ___ have tried both sides extensively, even long term marriages, before settling more or less to one side and identifying themselves as this-or-that.

I'm a ___ guy and that's that. At age 51 I don't think it's gonna flop the other way. Inf fact, have never heard of flopping "straight". It isn't that this way is 'better' cos it surely is not but another side of the mirror. It's more like: those who are mostly ___ at root find this will always be true. It cannot be altered. It is in the brain chemistry. Nor is homo-desire contagious to a more or less straight guy. Does not happen.

Sexual identity is probably best defined by: what's your favorite gender to sleep with? Which do you most fantacize about? Many or most can privately admit some sort of minor conflicts in the past.
I'm ___. Another guy might be 90 percent straight. I happen to be 100 percent the other way and, this is rare. So I am not a very mainstream example. No one made me this way. That is my key point to make. No one, no person, no cultural cause. Inborn. Who put it there? God or -chance-, right? So, why is this inescapable preference to be frowned at by uncomfortable people?


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don't end heavy, reid! tell a joke. why not?


Four men went golfing together one day; three headed to the first tee and one went into the club house to take care of the bill. The three men started talking, bragging about their sons. The first man told the others, "My son is a home builder and he's so successful that he gave a friend a new home - for free."

The second man said, "My son was a car salesman and now he owns a multi-line dealership. He's so successful that he gave a friend two Cadillacs."

The third man, not wanting to be outdone bragged, "My son is a stock broker and he's doing so well that he gave his friend an entire stock portfolio."

The fourth man joined them on the tee after a few minutes of taking care of business. The first man mentioned, "We were just talking about our sons. How is yours doing?" The fourth man replied, "Well, my son is ___. I'm not totally thrilled about it, but he must be good. His last three boyfriends gave him a house, two cars, and a stock portfolio."

"pre-programmed" or not. I say "no", they say "yes". Your thoughts?

Sorry, they are correct. And I have no agenda whatsoever except to
-encourage young people not to die worrying over sexual identity. It will be what it will be.
-tolerate and embrace all people. Especially those who make you uncomfortable; who challenge you. This is one reason that -I- am here!

it is just that simple, folks.

I like that the mods are letting us talk about "being ___" and such....I actually hoped the thread would take this direction but put a title/topic to it that would get people to leave their impressions/ideas/comments. I had not seen one post that made me think anyone else here was ___. I was starting to feel that I didn't belong on this site because I felt like I was the only ___ and not very experienced in car modification and stuff. Now I like it again...thanks to everyone!

I can't believe that I finally wandered into this thread.
I've had tendencies since I was like 10.
When I'm drinking I'd much rather climb a lady than a guy.
However I've been the tomboy and blended in more with males most of my life, even when I'm being girly I'm still brash. I do not really ever in my life think that I can maintain a relationship with a female because women are evil. I should know! ;)
Females gossip alot, and withhold all these things until they decide it's time to let it all out and be the biggest backstabbing things. They are loud in a group and start doing that laughing crowd fit that sounds like a coup of chickens.

I've had mixed feelings on the subject for years.

I never expect to be tolerated but anyone anyway. I'm a serious fence-rider over everything because there's nothing that I feel that passionately about to have to defend myself to anyone.

? and suddenly the reason I posted this was because someone else just posted about imposing views... now they deleted the post just before I clicked submit?

Oh there is a Lesbian somewhere on this site I saw an avatar that says "I am a lesbian" or something. ::shrugs::

That wouldn't be me your thinking of, would it? I'm not sure what type of input you all are looking for from me.

I've beeing waiting 30 days for my BOX LUVR plate to arrive. I choose it on purpose.
:lalala: :lalala: :lalala: :lalala:
http://home.earthlink.net/~mariartw/images/Box/Box%20024.jpg

I can't believe this thread got to five pages before I noticed it. Oh well, checking in.

You know, I don't remember ever "choosing" to like girls, I just did. :ponder:

Lesbians are mean

Excuse me? :no:

I will be down in Miami next week, would you like to meet up? :eyebrow:

Ahh, Placebo!
He has a great habit of saying very little about a lot he does not know about

:P

Maria! If you're coming to Miami can we meet someplace for lunch?
A box lunch is not on my mind. We'll talk about Placebo, in his very
definite absence.

(kidding, the sugar pill is invited of course)

Trust me I dont want to show up

Maria! If you're coming to Miami can we meet someplace for lunch?
A box lunch is not on my mind. We'll talk about Placebo, in his very
definite absence.


Hahahah looks like you just got my private message. Off to messages I go..

Placebo... we really should meet up, I'm not going to beat you up, I promise. :lalala:

Trust me I dont want to show up

Trust us and get out of your shell, dude! It's not a ___ anything. It's SL members meeting face to plate. Spaghettio's at Denny's, dude! Girls. Straitz and andros, too! All welcome. Maybe in Ft. Lauderdale. It will be din-din.

Komen!

are you paying?

I will pay for you, of course. I know that funds are short at this time in your young life. If you need transport, I'd be driving right by your home on the way up to Ft. Lauderdale, which is -where I expect we'll be meeting up- cos Maria is prolly gonna hotel up there.

Probably "Christianity". It's got quite a track record of prounouncing things this or that via the bible. That's exactly right. The Bible is God's word, and as such, it is the final authority for the Christian faith. I'd be very afraid of a church or religion that didn't view the Bible that way.
Let us not make false barriers. Wrong is not wrong except by what subdividers of humanity would teach, would put upon all men. There is no wrong in nature. There is only cultural taboo, generally implemented to help assure the success of some parochial program/ agenda.Here again, if you use the Bible as your final authority, it's very clear that God has set standars of right and wrong. Without it, it would be up to society to detrmine right and wrong. And GOD help us if that ever happens.
Why is it that if someone disagrees with, or is against homosexuality, they are being "intolerant" or a "homophobic", but you can make statements like that about the Christian faith and God's teachings, and it's okay? Seems like a double standard Reid. Seems like you want everyone to not only accept you, but also to believe what you practice is normal. Yet you turn right around and imply that the Bible and Christianity are only in exsistance to "assure the success of some parochial program/ agenda". Have you heard me mention the homosexual agenda? Exaclty who is being intolerant here?

^I think you make a good point.^
I like Reid okay though. He has never said anything negative towards me even though I told him that I do not agree with his lifestyle. In my mind I do what I feel is right and he does so in his. Do I agree with his lifestyle? No. Do I still love him as my brother in Christ and pray for him? You bet I do! That's what I believe is right.

matt and Vanillia, are we related? :bow:
I too find it very odd that if someone wants to promote any belief they have it is fine as long as it is NOT in any way a Christian belief.
I respect all the views given here. It makes no matter to me if you are straight or not, respect me as I respect you. I find it hard enuff to live my life the way I should, I sure don't have time to try to change someone else's to the way I would like to see. It is not my place to say what is right or wrong. I can just offer my hand in friendship and brotherhood.
Besides, my oldest daughter has a friend she went to school with that we all knew was ___ before he admitted it. I still accept him as almost one of the family, I just leave the room when he wants to have a "Girls night out" with my wife and kids.....

Like my dad always said, what happens after the campfire goes out is between a cowboy and his horse...

Like my dad always said, what happens after the campfire goes out is between a cowboy and his horse...
That's funny!
Like I said, I don't dislike Sci, I just don't agree with his ways but I think it's great that we can get online and have this chat without any ___ bashing and Christian bashing. I think it will open some peoples eyes. I know that in the past few years I have become more "accepting" of the homosexual lifestyle than I was in the past.

Like my dad always said, what happens after the campfire goes out is between a cowboy and his horse...

okay people, now we are getting our sexual preferences confused... ^^that is beastyality. We are talking about Homosexuality...lets try to stay on topic, m'kay? :P

Okay, lets get this 'straight,' straight people think that ___ sex is revolting, and that even the thought of it makes them sick to their stomach, Well alot of ___ people (me) feel the same way about straight sex. Just thought I would get that out of the way, before someone said anything

... It makes no matter to me if you are straight or not, respect me as I respect you. I find it hard enuff to live my life the way I should, I sure don't have time to try to change someone else's to the way I would like to see...I can just offer my hand in friendship and brotherhood...

:bow: :clap:

*double post

Okay, lets get this 'straight,' straight people think that ___ sex is revolting, and that even the thought of it makes them sick to their stomach, Well alot of ___ people (me) feel the same way about straight sex. You just haven't been around the right women! :P :silly:

^^*shiver* eww.

^^*shiver* eww.
Oh come on now! You know that when you see that hot blonde chick getting out of the pool and she's all silky smoothe and wet and you can tell the water's cold! That don't do anything for you? :silly:

It just did for me.......

nope, I tryed...and still nothing. Actually....what kinda swimmsuit is she wearing, what color, and make, and style??

Like my dad always said, what happens after the campfire goes out is between a cowboy and his horse...
That's funny!
Like I said, I don't dislike Sci, I just don't agree with his ways but I think it's great that we can get online and have this chat without any ___ bashing and Christian bashing. I think it will open some peoples eyes. I know that in the past few years I have become more "accepting" of the homosexual lifestyle than I was in the past.


And really, isn't that what we need to focus on? I might not agree with what color car you bought, but that doesn't make one of us wrong. It makes us different.

nope, I tryed...and still nothing. Actually....what kinda swimmsuit is she wearing, what color, and make, and style??
Well, it's string, and red obviously! She's also wearing some really sexy sunglasses and she...I'll be right back! :lalala:

Yeah, 'ewww' is how that appeals to us just the same as you regulars are revulsed the other way.

As said, am not against Christians. In fact I do think I hold to many of the same basic tenents. Much of it is the Golden Rule.

Have had fine friends all my life of both camps, all religions, etc. So this is not a problem for me. However, there is that conflict for many Christians: Bible is God God is Bible and it's all to be taken literally. Abominators are to be shunned. As at Sodom, God may destroy them. Hence: open season forever to castigate homosexuals.

Am glad you folks above don't get all hard against us here. Thank you.


Suggesting, along with manatee that we move on from bibles and God in this discussion, to speak to each other on grounds that we -can- touch in common?

humor:


This code of conduct, this homo's agenda:
Tolerance and Understanding-

We do not choose the skin we're in.
The tiger cannot change it's stripes.

As old dogs do not learn new tricks,
this one can't do kitty licks. :rofl:

We do not choose the pets we like.
The pets choose us, as like, as not.

I like Reid too. Several of his posts are quite entertaining. Like I said before, there is a distinction between accepting a homosexual, and accepting homosexuality. There is a big difference. The person is to be loved but that doesn't mean I'm going to ever accept homosexuality as normal or okay.
I have a 12 year old son who is already showing a healthy interest in girls. But if he would come to me someday and tell me he's ___, I would still love him. He will always be my son, and nothing will ever change that. BUT, I would never be able to accept that "lifestyle".

I am not gonna get into the bible vs god fight . Only cuz that fight will only keep goign in circles . As for me personally , I dont go around throwing my prefrence in peoples faces , I will joke around with close friends of mine about it . But I by no mean go running down the street waving the pride flag and screaming ACCEPT US NOW . I neither look for anyones acceptance nor do I need it (not attacking just stating my personal policy) . For me I am not totally on the other team , there are still women that grab my attention TRUST ME ON THIS lol . My belief is , yeah there is some genetics to it , and yeah there is some choice in it . I dont think its just one or the other that plays a role in it . I have seen some chicks that nearly snapped my head clean off my shoulders when they walked by (its genetic , called reproduction LOL we are programed that way or atleast i am LOL) but then there are guys that walk by that I am goign OHHH DAMN HEY HOWS IT GOIN :rofl: . Either way you look at it we all here and noone is going anywhere (unless they start making designated planets ,I gots dibs on the harley planet LOL) so its best to just deal with it accept the fact not everyone is gonna be the same and move on with life . Theres enough fighting and disasters going on in the world as it is . This just adds to the mess (and by no means I am not saying I am innocent in this ) . I dont go lookin for fights but if someone comes barging in tellin me this that and the other about my life when I never asked for their opinion I will retalliate . Heres alittle something for the straight people to think about and be placed in my world for a second . How you think I feel when a ___ guy looks at me and goes "You are antigay" LOL Ok so now Im self hating ? I love it LOL . I dont look ___ , I dont act ___ , I dont dress ___ so Im antigay ? All of this because I dont like other men that act like WOMEN . Hello the idea of the whole ___ thing is to be with the same sex . Not one that acts like the oposite sex LOL. Its like a man dating a woman because she acts like a man . Yeah I bet that burnt some braincells LOL . Or a woman dating a man cuz he acted like a woman . Ok my rant is over continue and discusss :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I am the spawn of heterosexual parents, as are mostly all of us. Accept your child and -don't set it apart with any sort of disapproval...

..as if, as IF the child had a -choice, even- in its preferences. You do not choose to like Okra. You either do, don't or ya tolerate it. Now, Oprah is another thing so don't misunderstand! I love Oprah.

Recall that sexuality is the most overriding, basic identification any of us have past the M/F fact. To put a lable of disapproval on gays is as offensively absurd as a ___ were to say (joke) "heteros are a disgusting lot".

humor again:

HAVING read the story of Lot, I am, you see, quite inclined to agree.

:P

How you think I feel when a ___ guy looks at me and goes "You are antigay" LOL Ok so now Im self hating ? I love it LOL . I dont look ___ , I dont act ___ , I dont dress ___ so Im antigay ? All of this because I dont like other men that act like WOMEN . Hello the idea of the whole ___ thing is to be with the same sex . Not one that acts like the oposite sex LOL. Its like a man dating a woman because she acts like a man . Yeah I bet that burnt some braincells LOL . Or a woman dating a man cuz he acted like a woman. LOL...I actually understood what you just said. :rofl:

You don not choose to like Okra. You either do, don't or ya tolerate it. Okay, now you're just getting gross. Okra...eeewww :P

How you think I feel when a ___ guy looks at me and goes "You are antigay" LOL Ok so now Im self hating ? I love it LOL . I dont look ___ , I dont act ___ , I dont dress ___ so Im antigay ? All of this because I dont like other men that act like WOMEN . Hello the idea of the whole ___ thing is to be with the same sex . Not one that acts like the oposite sex LOL. Its like a man dating a woman because she acts like a man . Yeah I bet that burnt some braincells LOL . Or a woman dating a man cuz he acted like a woman. LOL...I actually understood what you just said. :rofl:

Yeah funny! So I happen to like guys who are guys too. I -have all kinds for friends- but I would not want intimacy with any "fem" ___ person. Well, not unless I'd been drinking heavily and it was last call at a bar. :doh:

so i do not do dat anymore. sobering thought (shudder)!

=========

Okay, now you're just getting gross. Okra...eeewww Tongue

=Eeeeeewww=

Collard greens and Okra
smelly to the root.
Wash it down with Pepsi!
Am Deep South stock to boot

To boot? Well...po' blacks there
and homos too get very
little but the Shoe.




:silly:

I am not gonna get into the bible vs god fight . Only cuz that fight will only keep goign in circles . As for me personally , I dont go around throwing my prefrence in peoples faces , I will joke around with close friends of mine about it . But I by no mean go running down the street waving the pride flag and screaming ACCEPT US NOW . I neither look for anyones acceptance nor do I need it (not attacking just stating my personal policy) . For me I am not totally on the other team , there are still women that grab my attention TRUST ME ON THIS lol . My belief is , yeah there is some genetics to it , and yeah there is some choice in it . I dont think its just one or the other that plays a role in it . I have seen some chicks that nearly snapped my head clean off my shoulders when they walked by (its genetic , called reproduction LOL we are programed that way or atleast i am LOL) but then there are guys that walk by that I am goign OHHH DAMN HEY HOWS IT GOIN :rofl: . Either way you look at it we all here and noone is going anywhere (unless they start making designated planets ,I gots dibs on the harley planet LOL) so its best to just deal with it accept the fact not everyone is gonna be the same and move on with life . Theres enough fighting and disasters going on in the world as it is . This just adds to the mess (and by no means I am not saying I am innocent in this ) . I dont go lookin for fights but if someone comes barging in tellin me this that and the other about my life when I never asked for their opinion I will retalliate . Heres alittle something for the straight people to think about and be placed in my world for a second . How you think I feel when a ___ guy looks at me and goes "You are antigay" LOL Ok so now Im self hating ? I love it LOL . I dont look ___ , I dont act ___ , I dont dress ___ so Im antigay ? All of this because I dont like other men that act like WOMEN . Hello the idea of the whole ___ thing is to be with the same sex . Not one that acts like the oposite sex LOL. Its like a man dating a woman because she acts like a man . Yeah I bet that burnt some braincells LOL . Or a woman dating a man cuz he acted like a woman . Ok my rant is over continue and discusss :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I like to say that I acept anyone UNTIL they demand that I do....
And that is what I like about this discussion, there have been no demands.. In fact, the only sickening thought raised lately is the okra/Oprah debate. I choose to like neither.... :no:

I have a question. Do you guys think HOMOSEXUALITY is wrong or do you just think ___ MEN are wrong because the majority of men who think homosexuality is wrong only are against ___ men.

hmmm. and -not- against ___ women.

of course, straight men, many I guess, sweet dream about two women

but just the opposite about two men (shudder) NIGHTMARE

ha ha ha it's true! (humor half baked again as Oprah)


Hits to close to home
do not make a score.

FOUL, damn you.
You're OUT.

Get outta our ball park
We can't play ball

:rolling:

I have a question. Do you guys think HOMOSEXUALITY is wrong or do you just think ___ MEN are wrong because the majority of men who think homosexuality is wrong only are against ___ men.I can't speak for any of the other guys, but I think homosexuality is wrong. I think the reason why most guys who are against ___ men, yet like to see girl-on-girl, feel that way because they are seeing two females. Men are visually stimulated, and that's like a two for one sale. I will admit, I'm not as physically repulsed by seeing two girls together, but yes, I do think it's wrong also.

I have a question. Do you guys think HOMOSEXUALITY is wrong or do you just think ___ MEN are wrong because the majority of men who think homosexuality is wrong only are against ___ men.
Morally I think it is wrong either way but won't lie and say that I wouldn't watch if two hot women were having sex. I'm a guy! Guys think that two women having sex is very attractive. We as men are more attracted to physical and visual than emotional so two attractive women together is something that will get our attention.

I have a question. Do you guys think HOMOSEXUALITY is wrong or do you just think ___ MEN are wrong because the majority of men who think homosexuality is wrong only are against ___ men.I can't speak for any of the other guys, but I think homosexuality is wrong. I think the reason why most guys who are against ___ men, yet like to see girl-on-girl, feel that way because they are seeing two females. Men are visually stimulated, and that's like a two for one sale. I will admit, I'm not as physically repulsed by seeing two girls together, but yes, I do think it's wrong also.
Good post, I said basically the same thing you did and we must've sent it at about the same time.

Good post, I said basically the same thing you did and we must've sent it at about the same time.LOL...yeah, I saw that.

I love it when you guys nail it tight like that: you like women so you'll make allowances for lesbian hot sex.

Ahem.. we ___ men are physiologically and emotionally the same as you except for the target of interest

Ergo, I kinda like it to watch a film with two hot guys having sex.

so whut's da problem and what's the distance in our perspective?

two things only:

-Biblical prohibitions
-the worry/ingrained that somehow the straight guy is vulnerable to "flipping over"'. Which is not a valid fear.

Women don't have to deal with that factor, nor are they so self-deluding as we guys are.

humor again:

News Flash!
Michael Jackson's son runs away from home!
???
He does not like the way he's being reared.


Sci agrees and so will all: That's a sick family

I love it when you guys nail it tight like that: you like women so you'll make allowances for lesbian hot sex.I don't "make allowances" for lesbian sex. I don't look at or watch porn. I said I believe both ___ and lesbian sex is wrong. I simply said that the sight of two women together doesn't repulse me like seeing to men together. That doesn't mean I seek it out and watch it.

didn't quite say that you do.
But I guess you've -seen- it at some time in some form,
or you wouldn't know that F on F does not repulse you

didn't quite say that you do.
But I guess you've -seen- it at some time in some form,
or you wouldn't know that F on F does not repulse youYou did kind of imply it. Yes, I have seen it. I didn't become a Christian until I was 21 years old. Prior to that, I did quite a few things I'm not very proud of.

you like women so you'll make allowances for lesbian hot sex
I don't want you to think I don't see your point. I really do understand what you are saying. Now see mine.
One of the things with men is that we are re-producing machines. We have "evolved" into monogamous relationships but our genetics and instincts tell us to spread our seed to as many women as possible to carry on our genes. The more women there are the more seed we spread and this keeps our genes running strong. Another thing with men is that we are competitive. We do not like to have to compete with another male to spread our seed. If we are the only male in a group of females then we are the one who gets to re-produce. It's almost animalistic. Boy I hope that made since.

really i dont care... if you are ___ you are ___ if you arnt you arnt it really shouldnt be a big deal because whats really wrong with loveing who you want?

as i was watching Blue Collar Comedy Tour
"So I told my friend everyone of us is a bit ___.. and he goes no man I am 100% straight and I asked him if he like porn, he told me yes, I asked if he liked if the if the guys had small weners and he goes no I like the guys with the big coc.... oh i did not know that about myself"


maybe it was me but i thought it was funny lol ill shut up now *goes and hides*

really i dont care... if you are ___ you are ___ if you arnt you arnt...
Must've taken you a long time to come up with that one! :silly:
No man, we are just discussing things here and we understand that part. We understand that people are different. We are just talking, in a civilized manner, about how and why and right or wrong. By the way, I love Blue Collar TV.

really i dont care... if you are ___ you are ___ if you arnt you arnt...
Must've taken you a long time to come up with that one! :silly:


yeah it did i was stareing at this post for about 30 mins :loser: <cause thats me

really i dont think it is wrong i mean its a way of life for some people but its the makeing out in plubic (pda) :no: thats just werid i mean love is a strong bond either between a man and woman or man and man or woman and woman, its really how they want to live their life is how the world should see it i mean whats ___ people stoping straight people to love someone? i think everyone aginst gays is just blind sided by the past and really need to look into the future

imo

really i dont care... if you are ___ you are ___ if you arnt you arnt...
Must've taken you a long time to come up with that one! :silly:
No man, we are just discussing things here and we understand that part. We understand that people are different. We are just talking, in a civilized manner, about how and why and right or wrong. By the way, I love Blue Collar TV.

I love BCCT, but I had rather watch a guy on guy movie than see BCTV...
No, wait, I might have said too much..... :silly:

Baker, I think we all are in agreement that we don't necessarily say the homosexuality is bad.. Some of us, in our heart of hearts think it is wrong. But, instead of being against the person, we are against the act.
I am glad that I now know that I have at least 2 homosexual friends. Will we hang out together? Yes, if the opportunity affords itself... will we go to a parade together?? Not likely.

dude, I would not go to a parade alone :D can I make a third Homofriend of yours? I can always use friends :D

dude, I would not go to a parade alone :D can I make a third Homofriend of yours? I can always use friends :D

Sir, you were already in the count... :bow:
And what good are friends if you can't use them??

___ parade? oh what a fruity embarassment, always has been.
-there are these fringes in every "group".

The convulsively In Your Face kind are the ones we see on TV news.

case in point: When Pedro Zamora (remember him, season one of The Real World, mtv?) died, some months later there was an open memorial service for Pedros fans to attend.

This was held at the concert hall on Lincoln Road in Miami Beach. Lincoln Road is a pedestrian boulevard; no cars.

I happened to be there because I'm was the piano tuner for that hall (home of the New World Symphony training orchestra) and had been tuning the workshop pianos.

A great ruckus was heard outside. I stepped out to investigate.

South Beach, you know, has a lot of gays. There was that Reverend what's his name... you may recall the name, I can't at the moment.

He had a cadre of imported protesters from his MidWest snake nest. About a dozen of these nut case zealots in all.

the signage I recall. no exageration:

PEDRO ZAMORA WENT TO HELL.

HOMOS SUCK SATAN

DIE ___GOTS FOR YOUR SINS

---and this is just a flip side of those extremists of hate; those ___- ___ parades which make me -shrink- with embarassment, thinking/knowing that THIS is the image of gays Middle America will be having nightmares about.
The parades are what -you- remember.

I remember...
I encountered Pedro Zamora on his deathbed... by accident...
He was dying in a patient room at Mercy Hospital which happened to be next to the room where a ___ friend of mine lay critically ill with HIV disease=AIDS.

The family was circled around their son. There was no disapproval of his living.
There was sobbing from the former cast members of The Real World, who escorted me out of the room.

One of them, that young political cartoonist, unloaded his sorrow on me. I listened.. Young people all over the nation mourned when their empathetic youth leader, voice for tolerance, lost his life to... "satan"??? To a viral complex.

Mental complexes are as fatal to gays as any virally induced disorder. You just don't see the graphic deaths of discounted ___ youth. They are not telegenic like young Pedro once was.

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dude, I would not go to a parade alone :D can I make a third Homofriend of yours? I can always use friends :D

Sir, you were already in the count... :bow:
And what good are friends if you can't use them??

WHOOT! I was in the count :blush: you are my freind too manatee, and of course SciFly...even though he still hasnt written ME a special poem. :(

.... you are my friend too manatee, and of course SciFly...even though he still hasnt written ME a special poem.


:ttth:









SirScion>>------> :nails:

yeah, thats right... DO IT. lol :rofl:

For Sir Scion: a special song lyric written by satirist Tom Lehrer about 1951.
Altered is one word: "dainty" becomes "handsome" for our fun.
This is a walz-tune song. So dance with me, Sir?
Verrry romantically, please: :P


I hold your hand in mine, dear
I press it to to my lips.

I take a healthy bite from
Your handsome fin-ger-tips.

My joy would be complete, dear,
If you were only heeeere.

But still I keep your hand as...
A precious sou-ven-ir.

THE NIGHT YOU DIED
I cut-it-off.
(I really don't know why)

For now each time I hold it tight...
I get....bloodstains onnnnn my tie.

My joy would be complete dear
If you were only here,
But until they come and get me,
Iiiiiiiiii will hollld your haaaand in miiiine.



thank you.. you'll get an original poem later but
it may not be what you expect :lalala:

Interesting thread.

Personally I don't like lesbians...I like bisexual women. Those are more fun.

I feel everyone has the right to be what they want. I just hate it went there are all these damn special circumstances and laws individualizing these people that are different. Take hate crimes for instance, why should penalties be greater just because a person is ___ or black or purple or whatever. Isn't all crime based on hatred? People don't commit murder because they love their victims. So if I kill someone because I want their shoes, I get 20 to life. Now if that person was ___, the sentance is automatically life with possible death sentence (depends on state).

It cracks me up that people want equality but constantly want special crap to make them better or give them more advantages.

Noting as we carry on: Fourth day for this thread. 2800 reads at this time.

It is a topic about which all people are intensely curious!

Am glad there is no hate displayed. It's a good thread and it does not promote a thing other than peace of mind and security for all readers.

-there is no question that can't be asked here.
-neither "side" is interested in lambasting the other so far.

Remarkable! Good! HoOOORaaaay!


=====addendum in reaction to you above:

Take hate crimes for instance, why should penalties be greater just because a person is ___ or black or purple or whatever.

Because there are egregious crimes committed on pure hate basis by small numbers of people. IF you were to lynch a black person in MS, I'd hope they hang you in turn (speaking of illustration).

Hate crime laws are directed to very specific acts. Very interestingly, the Matthew Shepard story that gripped the nation some years back turns out NOT to have been a hate crime.

Most murderers are opportunists, sociopaths looking for gain of some sort. The hate crime killer does it for pure pleasure and status within his warped social sub-set at the trailer park. Hate crime laws put these idiots on notice that prosecution will be especially severe. In a -strange way- it seems to work. Federal agents will come into play in a hate crime case in Tupelo, for instance, yes? I think that's a good thing.

im glad someone else doesnt like Lesbians :clap:

Glad to see this topic staying positive. That is how we all learn. :clap: :clap:

im glad someone else doesnt like Lesbians :clap:


Personally I don't like lesbians...I like bisexual women. Those are more fun.


Well I'm sorry you gentlemen don't like me even though you've never meant me, that would be like me saying I don't like your significant other just because they are straight.
:lalala:

You find a bisexual more fun just because they will have something to do with you? You should come to Florida and I will go to an adult bar with you, show you how much fun it can be to be with a lesbian.

I don't mean to make this post go sour although I'm just upset people are passing judgement on someone they've never meant.

I LOVE *LESBIANS!


*some... some just creep me out, but that is the same with 'flamers' and the same with any other type of person out there, like goths, artists, musicians, wrestlers, etc. there is always going to be someone that creeps you out, or you dislike, but that is no reason to dislike everyone that is associated with that group, I am sure that Placebo thinks as I do, that some are creepy, and he just generalized the statement, and it was taken badly. I love you 06BOX :D

I like everyone! unless they are mean to me

I like 'em all. And I like most to make a friend who may have formerly (or presently) abhor me.

XB_Boy, I can't tell from which side of the artificial fence you hail.
Humans are great at building fences. No such things exist in nature, natch.

cheers.
sidebar:

It's been a rough day here... caretaking foroldest RS2 owner, Ray... his adult granddaughter, sole adult kin, Larie, was due into Miami to spell me.

But this morning, her husband, working at their home fixing a room up for Raymond.... Sig fell off the ladder. Seven ribs broken, one of them fragmented. A punctured lung, And this wonderfully bright and beautiful woman -now- has to care not only for a toddler, a six year old and aged, ailing Ra, but also her hospitalized husband.

It rains all at once sometimes.

I detrack this far to remind us all what matters most:
helping out during a hard pull. I do pull for friends in need by -offfering-.
So do you all I am sure.

Raymond understands this new situation means that he must apply himself to recover from his surguries, with -real determination-. He's needed to help out, too!

I joke to Ray: Your goal now is to recover faster and better than Sig!

We laugh at small jokes played by fate. We worry for Larie. We will do our best to support -her-. Even a nearly tireless, young mother is not invincible against tears without family and friends closing ranks.

thanks,
Reid

PS: Raymond yesterday afternoon on the back patio porch.
He says hello! We read from this book, which someday I will read to you on off-topic.
I consider this book something of a bible to live by. (hooo! Do I digress or whaaaat? :P )

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clickable thumbnail

I LOVE *LESBIANS!

I love you 06BOX :D

Thanks!! :love:

I'll make sure to paypal you your fee. :silly:

okay, it is sirscion@hotmail.com :D

Scifly,I'll be honest, ive experimentedand i came to the conclusion that i am Bi, and my belief is Love can transcend any boundary.Love shouldnt be confined by anything,age,race,sex.

XB_BOY, in many ways your path is harder. More liable to conflicts of the heart.

I do not envy active bisexuals. I think my life is simple and unentangled. I hope yours will be likewise unfettered.

He loves her she loves him loves her or both but which to settle on for a mate cos she loves her who's in love with him who had him, who wants HER.

i get confused too in this recounting. Let it lay, I guess!
:P

I mean i am still very attracted to girls,but again there are some guys that catch my eye also.

A famous line from "The Magnificent Ambersons", made into a fine movie by Orson Wells. The older man finds the younger man is headlong into life, racing towards likely difficulties/
He wishes to advise but.. holds back after initial probes.

"What can forty tell to twenty?"

applies here, in a different sort of way. I've mentioned one -maybe- problem.

Now, as a young adult you have had all the advisement you need from one such as me.
You don't reject it. You just don't see the -possible- future problems. But, having seen this hint you will keep it all in mind and all in balance and -probably- do just fine.

you're bold and fine. I so much wish to see young people avoid traps, or -thinking- they could alter their basic natures. Can't be done. You will have conflicts at some time but you can perhaps dance lightly enough to avoid stepping on your own toes.

Sexual urges of young males in particular are so powerful, that when stymied...

..is why so many confused young men went into the priesthood, you know? In a former time. Maybe less of that nowadays.

I mean i am still very attracted to girls,but again there are some guys that catch my eye also.

I remember telling myself that.....years ago. Now look at me. 8)

I think "bi" was just a stepping stone for me, because it seemed less likely to cause a stir when I would tell my friends if I still claimed to have some attraction to females. Never actually "went there" with a girl. No offense to the sexy mamas on SL, but I'm glad I didn't. Eventually, I realized there was nothing bi about me, and I learned to accept what was there all along.

I'm not insinuating that your situation is (or will be) similar in any way. It just reminded me of how I felt during the begining of my, er, journey.

Ok so this post is growing at an insane rate. In order to not backtrack I will limit my comment to recent posts. Even though there were SEVERAL post in the last three pages that I wish to have commented on.
Like Kevin I was "bi" before ___. But I chose to be bi. My whole childhood I was attracted to boys. My first crush was in elementary school (by crush means I wanted to kiss and hug). I didn't chose to be ___. I chose to be bi and told myself I was "half normal." Then I realized and chose to accept that I was ___. Accepting the truth is the ONLY choice that someone not straight makes. Believe me, as someone who knew Matt Shepard (just an acquaintance) we would not choose a life (it isn't a lifestyle btw) that is this hard or risky. Just my two cents...

I think "bi" was just a stepping stone for me, because it seemed less likely to cause a stir when I would tell my friends if I still claimed to have some attraction to females. Never actually "went there" with a girl. No offense to the sexy mamas on SL, but I'm glad I didn't. Eventually, I realized there was nothing bi about me, and I learned to accept what was there all along.

Im mainly attracted to women.If i were to rate my sexuality it would be like 90% for women and 10% men.Thats just how i feel.

Just 10%? I think I speak for gays everywhere when I say we feel cheated. haha, just kidding. Do whatever feels right to you. :)

Everyone loves Kevin. He's a bright light. Kind. Smart.

He was my first real friend here at SL.

==


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human interest in humankind


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Everyone loves Kevin. He's a bright light. Kind. Smart.

He was my first real friend here at SL.



Aww, thanks Reid. :D

This is a very interesting thread, I'd never really considered this before. I'm not ___ myself, but there's one xA parked at my school with a rainbow sticker on the back. And if that's not the symbol for being ___, I'm really sorry, I was misinformed!

Anyway... 'tis somewhat surprising to learn this about people. Which Scion are the ___ folks most drawn to?

Anyway... 'tis somewhat surprising to learn this about people. Which Scion are the ___ folks most drawn to?

I absolutely looovveee :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: my box.


:clap: :clap: :clap: :P :P :silly: :silly: :silly:

I LOVE *LESBIANS!


*some... some just creep me out, but that is the same with 'flamers' and the same with any other type of person out there, like goths, artists, musicians, wrestlers, etc. there is always going to be someone that creeps you out, or you dislike, but that is no reason to dislike everyone that is associated with that group, I am sure that Placebo thinks as I do, that some are creepy, and he just generalized the statement, and it was taken badly. I love you 06BOX :D

Its not because they are creepy its because they are mean.

Its not because they are creepy its because they are mean.

I politely ask you to stop generalizing me with other lesbians.

I see your age next to your name -4 and I'm starting to wonder if you really are only 4.:

I am 4

I am 4

That explains everything to me then since it’s almost midnight and you’re still awake. I will just let you live your stereotypical life.

I'm done trying to politely ask someone to stop stereotyping someone they don't know. BTW, I don't want to meet you when I'm the Miami area next week so don't bother coming.

I wasnt planning on coming

whos sterotyping who?
:P

whos sterotyping who?


:no:

Actually, I'm glad you read what I posted closely. I'm done with this subject now, unless someone wants to know something specifically.

Maria, you have to understand this about Placebo:

-intensely shy
-is worried to go out and meet -me-, not you.

-he worms out by insulting lesbians in general. he does this to bug you off of any interest in meeting him.

-he alters like the wind

-he's not a bad kid. I suggest we have him for dinner (if P will please reconsider)

I would like the spleen. You want the heart? It's there. Just undeveloped as yet.


All this food talk makes me hungry. Looking forward to meeting Maria and any other SL peeps -especially straights!- who can join us, prolly in Ft. Lauderdale mid week next week.

humor!

new subject. the I Want to Know Q and A section!


I'm done with this subject now, unless someone wants to know something specifically.

Question: I Want to Know why is it that lesbians have a reputation for short fusing and why they are not so funny very often (only Ellen DeGeneres is funny ya know)

Answer: see the quote box


big hug for Maria.. I am only kidding here for her smiles.


Whoever posts the next I Want to Know question, please use your font buttons to make the phrase blue (if you know how) thank you!


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rules: none. multiple respondents may answer the same question.

I Want to Know
what it is like to sleep with a woman..............after twenty years.

I Want to Know
if President Bush would ever hire me for council

I Want to Know
if a new NASA will be formed, and if they will start off by sending brave men into space and if they will start dangerous space shoot trials with ___ astronauts. Two birds, one stone.




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Maria, you have to understand this about Placebo:

-intensely shy
-is worried to go out and meet -me-, not you.

-he worms out by insulting lesbians in general. he does this to bug you off of any interest in meeting him.

-he alters like the wind

-he's not a bad kid. I suggest we have him for dinner (if P will please reconsider)

I would like the spleen. You want the heart? It's there. Just undeveloped as yet.


All this food talk makes me hungry. Looking forward to meeting Maria and any other SL peeps -especially straights!- who can join us, prolly in Ft. Lauderdale mid week next week.

- not really
-no
-eh? I didnt say it to bug her its fact. See she is being mean :tap:
-eh?
-no
I enjoy my spleen and my heart so you cant have it


Ellen DeGeneres is not funny at all. :nope:

ur such a Pill sometimes, Placebo

open your kindness faucet and let it all drip out. the supply of kindness never runs out and only goes sour by being contained too long, too often.

ur such a bad psychic :ttth:

my two cents....i see sexuality defined primarily in two ways;a person's sexual aim, i.e, why have sex? and their sexual object, or the other party involved.

healthy sexual aims obviously include expressing love, expressing "desire" and procreating the species. aims that are selfish are unhealthy (except when alone, nudge, nudge). heterosexuals and homosexuals can have unhealthy aims.

a person's sexual object or the "significant other(s)" can be the opposite sex or the same sex; both are ultimitely okay, except for cultural and religious mores against having a same sex partner.

our sexual desires exist somewhere along a spectrum that has strict heterosexuality on one end and strict homosexuality on the other. most of us are at either extreme with regard to the physical expression of our desires but are somewhere closer to center for emotional expression and relationships, etc.

this is why men hang out or play sports, etc., together and women shop and go to the bathroom in groups.

as an example, there was a lesbian couple living next to me and we became friends. one night after several beers one of them and i were intimite. her partner found out several days later and to get her back, she and i were intimite. the spectrum shifted for both of them and the aim was unhealthy, particularly in the last instanceimo.

i don't know why i used that as an example....yes i do....i love telling that story.

(p.s., until i moved i tried to find someone they were both ticked at....so they could both get back her at once....jk)

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ur such a bad psychic :ttth:


I knew you were going to say "ur"again. :nails:


"Dahlin, lemme tell you what you're gonna do next:
you're gonna beat this devil at his own game.
UR gonna stop sayin' "ur" and "u" and you're
gonna make much more for yourself with a face avatar
your own. That'll be five dollars, please."

Reads :P

surfcity: as usual, you illuminate well. thanks.

note: In my opinion selfishness is inherent in every single act. there is no altruism possible except, surely, in the near-certain sacrifice of one's life to save another. In every other instance, self-elevation or preservation or gratification is the aim. I am a fine example of selfishness, really. As a posting hog I do shine. And that is that!

i grin and thank clear thinkers everywhere for expressing views here.

SciFly, hitting a knee right now for your friends and their troubles.....

Maria, I have never seen a mean act from you. I am proud to say my horizons are expanding from this thread, I had some misconceptions about a lot of different things and people, yall have helped me see them more clearly..thank you.

BYW, Ellen is only sometimes funny, but I think Eddie Izzard is funnier...

This seems like a real good topic to read. I will take a close look after I get off work today & add in some questions, point of views etc.. So far it seems like its a heated debate going on just this page :doh:

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ur such a bad psychic :ttth:


I knew you were going to say "ur"again. :nails:


"Dahlin, lemme tell you what you're gonna do next:
you're gonna beat this devil at his own game.
UR gonna stop sayin' "ur" and "u" and you're
gonna make much more for yourself with a face avatar
your own. That'll be five dollars, please."

Reads :P

I will continue you to say "ur" and "u" since it seems to bother you so much. No I will not make an avatar with my face and no I will not give you 5 bux because like I said u're a crappy psychic.

LOL, Placebo, I will love you forever (in a platonic sort of way)

We have raised the hackles of Our Lil' Heckler. Fun for a purpose. Tease us back Placebo? Nobody loses. Many do laugh.

luv you, brother human,
Reid

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LOL, Placebo, I will love you forever (in a patonic sort of way)

:nails: ADD that missin' L to your platonic... or people may take it the wrong way.

:silly:

Placebo, stop trying to make the ___ thread all about you.

Didn't anyone tell you that it's all about me? :P

OH no you didnt sister! :rofl: this is my 'coming out of the closet on Scion Life' thread, so it is all about ME!! :D

:rolling:

OK, I guess we can share

HONK HONK......, UR RRRrrrrk.

Why hello again boyz! How do you like my new car? Do you like my hood ornament too? I name it Placebo.

duck duck what a goose, heh!



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G'day. I"m driving elder Ray up to Delray Beach today. S'long!

HONK honk honnnnnnnk

OH no you didnt sister! :rofl: this is my 'coming out of the closet on Scion Life' thread, so it is all about ME!! :D

SirScion! I sense that you are one of those
who prolly put pink paint on toes...

Female pronouns for male genders
are not my style!
Now mind my fenders!

HONNNNNNNNK OUTA MY WAY you limpers, you swishers
as this real man's hamhock hits th' road! A perfect invert

:P

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nope, I am very much not a flamer, I have already stated that they creep me out in my "I LOVE *LESBIANS" post, remember? I was trying to be funny...Placebo was right, you are a bad Phsychic. :roll:

I love to tickle at every opportunity!

Witness: male ego is always macho at the root.
-It's funny. We're all funny this way: A guy gets to where he can admit in public that he likes same-sex. BUT paint his toenails pink and he protests "dats not ME".

And it isn't! But he sure tensed up!

I cajole in order to relax others. It's what pigs do.
ha ha -am my own best joke-


platonic hug now for good sport SirScion. :clap:

Okay, you got me Sci, but you strike me more as a flamer than anyone else :eyebrow:


:D

I have been a blue flamer before.... Never eat Mexican food after midnight.... :silly:

im glad someone else doesnt like Lesbians :clap:


Personally I don't like lesbians...I like bisexual women. Those are more fun.


Well I'm sorry you gentlemen don't like me even though you've never meant me, that would be like me saying I don't like your significant other just because they are straight.
:lalala:

You find a bisexual more fun just because they will have something to do with you? You should come to Florida and I will go to an adult bar with you, show you how much fun it can be to be with a lesbian.

I don't mean to make this post go sour although I'm just upset people are passing judgement on someone they've never meant.

Nice to see that people can read something without considering what was said immediately before it and toss it totally out of context. I was referring to what was said about men watching two lesbians go at it and getting excited over it. What I meant was watching two lesbians go at it does nothing for me, bisexual women are different, it's more enticing when there is a chance of joining them.

As for "showing me how fun it would be with a lesbian", well technically that makes you bi, not 100% lesbian now doesn't it. :P

I don't hate anyone, what a person does in private is of no concern to me.

Well I'm sorry you gentlemen don't like me even though you've never meant me, that would be like me saying I don't like your significant other just because they are straight.
:lalala:

You find a bisexual more fun just because they will have something to do with you? You should come to Florida and I will go to an adult bar with you, show you how much fun it can be to be with a lesbian.

I don't mean to make this post go sour although I'm just upset people are passing judgement on someone they've never meant.

Nice to see that people can read something without considering what was said immediately before it and toss it totally out of context. I was referring to what was said about men watching two lesbians go at it and getting excited over it. What I meant was watching two lesbians go at it does nothing for me, bisexual women are different, it's more enticing when there is a chance of joining them.

As for "showing me how fun it would be with a lesbian", well technically that makes you bi, not 100% lesbian now doesn't it. :P

I don't hate anyone, what a person does in private is of no concern to me.

actually, she was refering to the platonic way of fun, you know, going to strip clubs, etc. that normal straight women would not do. Basicly saying that Lesbians are great best friends for guys, the same way that ___ guys are great best friends for girls... See now? oh, and I dont envy the thrashing your gonna get from HER about taking things out of context...

Oh well I tried.

P.S. I've been to strip bars with straight girls and yes it was fun.

LOL, Placebo, I will love you forever (in a patonicsort of way)
nope, I am very much not a flamer, I have already stated that they creep me out in my "I LOVE *LESBIANS" post, remember? I was trying to be funny...Placebo was right, you are a bad Phsychic. :roll:

You say bad spelling bugs but yet YOU suck at spelling ur self.

And I cannot believe you want to be just friends after we shacked up in the hotel room. I see you like to hit n run. :tap:

Kojak everything is always about me im the greatest thing since sliced bread. By the way I still say you are not ___.

I know...I fixed the Platonic
I said it bugs me, I never said I was good at it, dont some things bug you and you cant do them right...like an ugly ___ painting, or really crappy music, or whatever the case may be...
Why are you picking on me? huh? I have always stood up for you :D
Havent you ever heard of friends with benifits?
How come you say I am not ___?

I wasnt talking about you I was talking about Kev. I call him Kojak because he is black,bald, and likes to (insert word here) things.

Im not picking on you.

Friends with benifits? I am no skank Mr. :tap:
Well ok I am a lil

okay...

how much wood does a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck
wood

as much wood as a wood chuck could chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood

:rofl: This is over all a very good topic. Great info. Learned some things and more. Its good to know that so many ppl are secure with there sexual preference. As I glanced over the pages in this topic, I saw talk about gays & lesbians. In my book they are the same thing, Some one of one sex who likes members of the same sex. So using the term ___ for this topic, does count in lesbians. The one topic I did not see talked about, is Bi-Sexual. Can one truly like love from both members of a sex, or are they just confused?

My point of view on guys not liking gays. As a guy, most guys cant seem to stand the idea of a guy doing another guy. I would think that for women, the idea of a woman doing another woman, is just as bad as it is to as. So being guys we are normaly turned on by the idea of 2 woman making love. I would think this holds true for woman, where they like to see 2 guys going at it.

Is being ___ bad? I dont veiw it that way. There are so many things one can find to hate you, so it does not matter. It is funny that with the pink stickers on my xB, I have my sexual preference question almost every day. I my self, do not know of one ___ guy who actualy likes the color pink. So I think its just the mental image of it being a girl color, that one thinks a guy who likes it must be ___. I could really care less what ppl think about what way I swing.

Poor placebo, why not take up the offer to meet some great SL members? If I had the chance, I would love to be able to meet both SciFly & Maria. A question to Maria, are you the same Maria I chat with from time to time on msn? If so, I learned something new from this topic.

Thats about all I really have to say on this topic for the time. Its a great read & I hope to learn more.

how much wood does a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck
wood:P more to the point
How much would Chucksu upchuck if Chucksu could woodchuck wood?

SirScion: I'm not a "flamer" (effeminate homo). I've learned to like them OK.
Girly men turn me off too that way,
I'd say I prefer the company of straight guys and regular ___ guys over affected ones,
for regular socializing. I don't do colors or styles or decorating.. (all that is really a recessive home trait but its the FUNNY trait so you straights here about "fems" and fruities.

I have a question. For some reason I have this theory in my head that ___ men are promiscuous. I guess in my head I see ___ men as just having sex with whatever ___ guy they choose when they choose. Is it hard for ___ men to have a steady relationship?

I have a question. For some reason I have this theory in my head that ___ men are promiscuous. I guess in my head I see ___ men as just having sex with whatever ___ guy they choose when they choose. Is it hard for ___ men to have a steady relationship?

Yes, it is hard for ___ men to have a steady relationship. Why? Because men-to-men have zero difficulty finding a willing partner for a quicky.

We are built exactly the same way you straigtht guys are built.

Imagine a crazy world... where most all your women were as ready for instant lust as you yourselves are. Imagine there is no risk of pregnacy, no legal marriage to uphold (owww! the cost of cheating on a wife who takes by rights, half your dough)

If I were to say "In favor of ___ civil unions", one reason I am, is to -add legal weight to a ___ relationship so that it -might- stand a better chance of lasting long.

In our world we sorta consider three months of monogamy to equal one year of that bliss in your world. BUT we don't have even the approval of society to couple up. It's like: society drove us underground long ago. Destroyed careers when secrets were uncovered. Gays in many businesses are still made pariahs (Gee, I don't want -him- as my supervisor).

If gays had some access to legal protection of their union (I hate the M word applied to other than conventional weddings), then this would promote less promiscuity. A bit less. A bit more reason to settle down before 30 and stay home and stay safer.

The man is a man and he wants to go play around. You'd do it do if women were all as available as you straight guys would like them to be.

Yet I can site many of my ___ friends in very long term relationships. 23 years for myself. 56 years for the most senior union in my personal list of aquaintances.

We do "marry" and stay married quite well once we settle down.. well some of us do.

Break for humor again.

The Roaring '20's was a wild time all right. The flow of bootleg liquor, the rising of organized crime. The payoffs. The graft. And all this, in Harding's and Coolidges' Republican administrations. Social controls were laxing.

Gays were beginning to nose out, to sniff the air. Is it safe now? No. A deep depression was around the corner, just five years after this comic tune made our nation laugh in 1925



Hey Hey women are going mad, today.
Hey Hey fellers are just as bad, I'll say.
Go anywhere, just stand and stare .
You'll say they're bugs when you look at the clothes they wear.

Masculine Women Feminine Men,
which is the rooster, which is the hen?
It's hard to tell 'em apart today,
and SAY...
Sister is busy learning to shave.
Brother just loves his permanent wave .
It's hard to tell 'em apart today
HEY HEY
Girls were girls and boys were boys when i was a tot,
Now we don't know who is who or even whats what.
Knickers and trousers baggy and wide.
Nobody knows who's walking inside.
Those Masculine Women and Feminine Men

Masculine Women Feminine Men,
which is the rooster, which is the hen?
It's hard to tell 'em apart today
and SAY...
Auntie is smoking, rolling her own,
Uncle is always buying cologne.
It's hard to tell 'em apart today
HEY HEY.
You go and give your girl a nice kiss in the hall
but instead you find you're kissing her brother Paul.
Mama's got a sweater up to her chin.
Papa's got a girdle holding him in.
Those Masculine Women and Feminine Men

hear this tune at...
http://www.coolcatdaddy.com/gt-supp-masc.htm

Feminine men are SSSSUPER!
http://www.allthingschristie.com/archives/Big_____Al_figure.jpg

A question to Maria, are you the same Maria I chat with from time to time on msn?


Same one.. :P

Funny Placebo! You do of course realize, the only diff between your Brian Molko avatar pics and that SP character is -twenty years of aging-?

right? yes... that's your beloved brian in 20 years. See, he's not really androgynous. Hes a ___ pretending to be a girly boy.

:tap: :rofl:

I hope I don't kid you too hard for your comfort. It's only larking. The cartoon fella is sssssuper! (said as I gag, as all gag, on inhaled milk)

here is a pic of Brian molko with my dream guy Ville Valo http://www.placeboaddict.com/foto/Brian-VilleG.jpg

??? those are -guys-?????

!!!!!!! I can hardly beleive it!

delicato, tadpoles
I can't... I just can't
believe you are real wo..
or ...men

I can't depth
the pond you swim in.

but I'll presume
it's pretty stale

self-absorbed ones,
absorb your tails