A bolt-on kit for our tC from turbo-kits.com is now ready to ship. I just got this email from them:
Turbo Kits.com is finally ready to release the Turbo Kit for the 05+
Scion tC. I know you wanted us to contact you when one was ready, well
here it is
http://www.turbo-kits.com/tC_turbo_kits.html
We like to wheel and deal and are ready to get a kit for you…
Let me know if you have any further questions or are ready to order…
Please reply with a copy of the original message. Failure to do so may
result in your question not being answered.
Below was my request of turbo kit send earlier this year.
-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:45 PM
To: info@turbo-kits.com
Subject: Turbo kits request for 2005 Scion tC
Dear Sir/Madam:
As we all know, Scion's latest flagship sport compact
car tC may be the next hottest tuner car. There are a
few performance "start up" companies that are in the
middle of putting together a few turbo kits currently.
However, we Scion owners will be very grateful if a
reputable company like yours could kindly look into
the oppurtunity to develop and produce a high quality
bolt on turbo kit for tC.
If you take a looks at some online Scion forums, for
example, Scionlife.com, you will quickly discover the
potential for such product is unbelievable promising.
The persistent delay of TRD supercharger further fuels
the need of alternative forced induction system. If
you've been developing the kit, I beg your pardon.
Kindly advice me the preliminary release date.
I, on behalf of all other scion owner, thank you for
your time and consideration.
The following is from their website:
Brand: Turbonetics
Desc: 05+ Scion tC
Type: Stage II
Status: 4-6 Weeks Lead
Price: $4999.00
Price is on the high side but I believe they are reputable as they have been in the business for quite a while. Yay, one more choice for us! I will email them for more information. :clap:
Munch
10-04-2005, 07:14 PM
It comes with a Unichip Piggyback ECU I need to know more about this here.
peteyd
10-04-2005, 07:16 PM
how bout a dyno and that price is a bit high.....considering only 75-100hp is that at the wheel or crank....others are producing as much if not more power for $1500-$2000 less
DuMa
10-04-2005, 07:54 PM
'WE'LL BEAT ANY LEGITIMATE PRICE QUOTE"
seems fishy
Simplyscion
10-04-2005, 08:11 PM
Naa...I gotta say, the guys over at turbo kits.com are great...Jesse has helped me out w/ numerous things w/ the xB when I put the turbo on it. They have some great customer support. Jesse answers emails in less than a day!! Seems legit if you ask me, I just think that they should have waited a lil bit before advertising to bring the lead time down.
Munch
10-04-2005, 08:14 PM
Naa...I gotta say, the guys over at turbo kits.com are great...Jesse has helped me out w/ numerous things w/ the xB when I put the turbo on it. They have some great customer support. Jesse answers emails in less than a day!! Seems legit if you ask me, I just think that they should have waited a lil bit before advertising to bring the lead time down.
4 to 6 weeks is better than 4 months bro :rofl:
Simplyscion
10-04-2005, 08:28 PM
yea, and I bet that they will ship the kit in its WHOLE Entirety if you are reading this you know who you are :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Harman
10-04-2005, 08:43 PM
Too bad dyno is not out yet. One thing I do not sure is whether the kit is produced by turbo-kit.com itself by putting parts together, or is it actually a kit from turbonetics and available for sale at turbo-kit.com. Note the kit from turbonetics is running at 8psig too! I love the fact that it has a Spearco intercooler. Hopefully it is SMOG legal as well as it doesn't state "for off road use only" on their website.
-Keith-
10-04-2005, 09:44 PM
It wont be smog legal unless greddy sells it... end of story
-Keith-
10-04-2005, 09:45 PM
ALso u read it says ball bearing upgrade free... thats why its so much right there!
-Keith-
10-04-2005, 09:56 PM
Also I went and looked around unichip goes for 700+ and comes with a plug n play harness... u get what u pay for... and this is showing it.
TurboKits.com
10-04-2005, 10:39 PM
Hey Guys,
This is Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com. I just want to let you know I am here if you have any questions or concerns.
WOW, you guys are fast. I just added this kit this afternoon! The kit we are selling is a Turbonetics Kit. So you can expect all of the quality that comes along with it.
My rep said their test car made close to 250WHP which , if you do the math is over 100WHP gain. No DYNOs yet... I actually don't think they even officially released the kit yet. A sparrow flew in my window this afternoon and told me about it :)
In regards to the price match guarantee, why is that shady, best buy, tweeters, a lot of places have been doing that for years.
Anyway, just letting you all know I am here and ready to help
Jesse
jlaznlover
10-04-2005, 10:47 PM
Do you guys offer stage one? if so, what does the stage one consists of?
TurboKits.com
10-04-2005, 10:51 PM
No, sorry, Turbonetics only makes the stage II. Besides, you don't want to go turbo without an intercooler or fuel management.
Do you guys offer stage one? if so, what does the stage one consists of?
jlaznlover
10-04-2005, 10:56 PM
^^ i see, i was just curious. i can't wait so see some of pictures of the actual design of the kit.
TurboKits.com
10-04-2005, 11:02 PM
I am 99% sure Turbonetics will release the kit at SEMA and should have DYNO and pics etc then...
Stay Tuned.
For anyone who is interested in Pre-Ordering this kit we will give you a great deal to get some of these out and running :)
jesse@turbo-kits.com
^^ i see, i was just curious. i can't wait so see some of pictures of the actual design of the kit.
lastlookcustoms
10-05-2005, 12:30 AM
I just wanted to pop in here and offer my two cents. I have worked with Jesse on numerous things in person and online. Jesse is VERY good at what he does and offers the best prices around with the best tech help to back it up. If he tells you he will "price match" a product, he will. I purchased my turbo kit for the xB from him with no problems whatsoever with the kit or the service. I would recommend him to anyone looking for a kit for ANY car. So when anyone is ready, give Jesse or Grant a call and they will definitley take care of you...
bodjie
10-05-2005, 03:50 AM
The price is high for only 100whp IMO unless it is CARB approved for us Cali guys. And what is your requirement for a price match? Do we have to bring an ad from another source and item has to be in stock which you know is very unlikely at this time?
SiknesS
10-05-2005, 04:31 AM
theres alot of parts that aren't comin out smog legal... must be a _____ to swap parts back to stock...
TurboKits.com
10-05-2005, 03:26 PM
I thought 100WHP is a very nice gain. It is pretty straight forward across the board with stock engine cars, tC or not. The benefit is you are getting quality products with 0 fitment issues and a great warranty. Not to mention the kit can easily support 400WHP with the right tuning and engine build. So you can feel comfortable that you are buying the kit for now and for the future :)
The price is high for only 100whp IMO unless it is CARB approved for us Cali guys. And what is your requirement for a price match? Do we have to bring an ad from another source and item has to be in stock which you know is very unlikely at this time?
-Keith-
10-05-2005, 06:18 PM
I thought 100WHP is a very nice gain. It is pretty straight forward across the board with stock engine cars, tC or not. The benefit is you are getting quality products with 0 fitment issues and a great warranty. Not to mention the kit can easily support 400WHP with the right tuning and engine build. So you can feel comfortable that you are buying the kit for now and for the future :)
In regards to the Price Match. We would need to see an Ad from a company that was selling it for less and be able to verify it. Remeber, we are Master WD with Turbonetics. We know what the lowest is someone can sell it because typically that is US :clap:
Let me know if you have any further questions...
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
The price is high for only 100whp IMO unless it is CARB approved for us Cali guys. And what is your requirement for a price match? Do we have to bring an ad from another source and item has to be in stock which you know is very unlikely at this time?
I for one looked over the list very nice,.,.. but since u will only match price for the same kit that means you guys cant tell em the zpi price and try and get it cheaper... 2 different kits
Simplyscion
10-05-2005, 06:26 PM
The reason why the kit is soo dam expensive is cause everything they are using seems to be quality i.e spearco i/c, Unichip ECU, raptor BOV etc. Also, as both me and Lastlookcustoms stated before, the customer service that you will get with these kits is incredible beyond anyones imagination. Jesse is a real stand up guy that gets you answers when you need them most. Welcome aboard btw Jesse
-Vito-
TurboKits.com
10-05-2005, 06:44 PM
Hey Vito,
Thanks... Don't mind this guy, he see's a kit that will give his offering some competition and is just marking his territory. No biggie, the customers will decide what they like better.
Anyway, you are 100% correct. Turbonetics is top quality... Rarely do I hear back with any major issues on their products and the mininmal issues I deal with are taken care of swiftly by myself or Turbonetics directly.
I would like to thank everyone for their warm welcome and let you know to keep the questions coming. Anything I can't answer, I will get answered directly from Turbonetics :)
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
The reason why the kit is soo dam expensive is cause everything they are using seems to be quality i.e spearco i/c, Unichip ECU, raptor BOV etc. Also, as both me and Lastlookcustoms stated before, the customer service that you will get with these kits is incredible beyond anyones imagination. Jesse is a real stand up guy that gets you answers when you need them most. Welcome aboard btw Jesse
-Vito-
Harman
10-05-2005, 08:05 PM
How hard is it to install the kit? Can one do it in his garage? I have never done it before but I'm not clueless. Btw, is tuning required after the installation or is it plug and play? Thanks!
Simplyscion
10-05-2005, 08:18 PM
The kit shouldnt be all that hard to install on these cars. As long as everything is true bolt on there should not be any fitment issues...as far as tuning goes...nobody knows cause the kit hasnt been actually released yet
TurboKits.com
10-05-2005, 08:23 PM
Bolt On & Plug & Play :D
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
How hard is it to install the kit? Can one do it in his garage? I have never done it before but I'm not clueless. Btw, is tuning required after the installation or is it plug and play? Thanks!
TurboKits.com
10-06-2005, 03:14 PM
No more questions?
tcsciontist
10-06-2005, 03:19 PM
No more questions?
How about a sponsorship??
I'm up for a paint job in the next couple of months...Could add a nice big TURBOKITS logo anywhere you'd like...
Simplyscion
10-06-2005, 04:32 PM
No more questions?
How about a sponsorship??
I'm up for a paint job in the next couple of months...Could add a nice big TURBOKITS logo anywhere you'd like...
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
TurboKits.com
10-06-2005, 10:52 PM
I wish, brand new kit... That may be something to take up with Turbonetics directly...
We are offering grea pre-order deals if anyone is interested
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
No more questions?
How about a sponsorship??
I'm up for a paint job in the next couple of months...Could add a nice big TURBOKITS logo anywhere you'd like...
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
(4) Turbo Tuned Injectors? What type of injectors exactly?
TurboKits.com
10-13-2005, 02:56 PM
My rep at Turbonetics didn't know exactly what size... I assume they are 370 or 440 baased on the HP the kit is putting out. I will see if I can find out for you.
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
(4) Turbo Tuned Injectors? What type of injectors exactly?
ScionDad
10-13-2005, 03:47 PM
My rep at Turbonetics didn't know exactly what size... I assume they are 370 or 440 baased on the HP the kit is putting out. I will see if I can find out for you.
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
(4) Turbo Tuned Injectors? What type of injectors exactly?
The stock injectors are 370cc (nice of toyco to put these in for small boost ready). They include 410cc injectors for the supercharger upgrade running 6 PSI of boost.
TurboKits.com
10-13-2005, 04:33 PM
They they must be 440... However, let me confirm with Turbonetics.
Jesse
My rep at Turbonetics didn't know exactly what size... I assume they are 370 or 440 baased on the HP the kit is putting out. I will see if I can find out for you.
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
(4) Turbo Tuned Injectors? What type of injectors exactly?
The stock injectors are 370cc (nice of toyco to put these in for small boost ready). They include 410cc injectors for the supercharger upgrade running 6 PSI of boost.
TurboKits.com
10-13-2005, 05:21 PM
Hey All,
I talked to Turbonetics and they are not releasing any further info about the kit until the SEMA show. No DYNO's, nothing. One thing they did say was their test car was 100% stock, stock cat, stock exhaust, stock everything at 8 PSI.
Eitherway, I would love to get a few of these out and testing the potential. So PM me if you are interested in our Wholesale deal.
Sorry.
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
kungpaosamuraiii
10-13-2005, 09:28 PM
I'm sorry to bother, but did Turbonetics say that both cats are still on? I want to retain some semblance of greenness with two cats..
Oh, also, can you ask if Turbonetics is going to fight for a CARB number?
Thanks.
The_Instigator
10-13-2005, 09:58 PM
... One thing they did say was their test car was 100% stock, stock cat, stock exhaust, stock everything at 8 PSI.
I dont think it could be any clearer
Munch
10-13-2005, 09:59 PM
... One thing they did say was their test car was 100% stock, stock cat, stock exhaust, stock everything at 8 PSI.
Unless they added a cat to the downpipe, then the only cat would be the little one in the exhaust after the s-pipe.
The_Instigator
10-13-2005, 10:02 PM
... One thing they did say was their test car was 100% stock, stock cat, stock exhaust, stock everything at 8 PSI.
Unless they added a cat to the downpipe, then the only cat would be the little one in the exhaust after the s-pipe.
LOL my bad...all this talk of the supercharging had me thinking about the factory manifold...oops
TimmyT
10-13-2005, 10:32 PM
While turbonetics is great. There are plenty of kits out there. I would have bought one half a year back, but still waiting for those darn numbers. Much more props to those driving around on street legal rides.
TurboKits.com
10-13-2005, 11:02 PM
The main cat is built into the exhaust manifold... so that was eliminated - but they were using a high flow cat as a replacement with the secondary cat still in place. So the primary was a high flow and the secondary was stock.
The kit will come with an option to run no cats or both...
My rep claims they are going to try to get CARB Exempt status but that is a long and expensive road, so the initial kits will not be.
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
I'm sorry to bother, but did Turbonetics say that both cats are still on? I want to retain some semblance of greenness with two cats..
Oh, also, can you ask if Turbonetics is going to fight for a CARB number?
Thanks.
kungpaosamuraiii
10-14-2005, 12:05 AM
Thanks, what wasn't clear was whether or not the turbo downpipe had a cat on it.
THAT cat isn't stock. That is why I got confused, thanks.
TimmyT
10-14-2005, 12:51 AM
well good luck with the Carb #s and if your is legal b4 greddy you got my business
TurboKits.com
10-14-2005, 02:52 PM
Yep, that is why I wanted to clarify with Turbonetics :)
Thanks, what wasn't clear was whether or not the turbo downpipe had a cat on it.
THAT cat isn't stock. That is why I got confused, thanks.
I hope so :)
well good luck with the Carb #s and if your is legal b4 greddy you got my business
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
TurboKits.com
11-07-2005, 11:37 PM
Just got back from SEMA - PICS Galore.
If you are interested, please PM to lock in the special pre-order pricing.
Nice display! Where was your booth? I didnt see it when I walked around the show.
Munch
11-07-2005, 11:46 PM
Now that's a nice kit. Sweet 8)
-Keith-
11-08-2005, 12:29 AM
____ if the kit Im buying looks like that piping color and all I pay this price for that
Jarrod123
11-08-2005, 01:50 AM
that looks good. i wish i had the money.
shuttlegoosecock
11-08-2005, 03:02 AM
I saw that kit a couple of months ago at the sema auto salon in jersey, i saw it again at hot import nights in september. How come there wasn't any info on it then?
bcp_tc
11-08-2005, 03:52 AM
sexy, but why can't anyone make a decent manifold?
Stu_Gotti
11-08-2005, 12:58 PM
Looks outstanding to me... I think I might have to go out and get myself another income :)
TurboKits.com
11-08-2005, 02:39 PM
Actually, this kit is made by Turbonetics... It was in their booth. This is not a no name kit just using a Turbonetics turbo. This is a kit that was 100% developed and built by Turbonetics :)
Oh yeah... It is a beautiful piece of work... You can be assured when running one of these kits that you will not have any issues!
Nice display! Where was your booth? I didnt see it when I walked around the show.
Hey Stu_Gotti,
Let me know, the pre-release special is only until Nov 30th and you willnot see a price this low after then... PM for details.
Looks outstanding to me... I think I might have to go out and get myself another income :)
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
Stu_Gotti
11-08-2005, 03:17 PM
I'm looking into it now, and should hopefully hear something before the week is out. Thanks!
TurboKits.com
11-08-2005, 03:21 PM
On another note. Some good news for Turbo Kits.com. We are officially Turbonetics biggest turbo kit dealer! This means you will always get the best prices and best service when dealing with us :)
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
I'm looking into it now, and should hopefully hear something before the week is out. Thanks!
fac3
11-08-2005, 10:25 PM
That is one BEAUTIFUL turbo kit.
Plus, the fact that everything bolts up with no issues is even a better reason to purchase.
Plug 'n play 'n go.
bcp_tc
11-09-2005, 03:00 AM
how much is the "price too low to list"??
Stu_Gotti
11-09-2005, 12:30 PM
PM him, its def a good deal.. Just make sure you lock it in. I am still waiting on my bank to get in touch with me... *crossing fingers* :)
mattssi
11-09-2005, 01:30 PM
Def a nice looking kit!! Can't wait to get my pipes polished.. uh huh huh
TurboKits.com
11-09-2005, 06:06 PM
You have a PM sir :)
Jesse
how much is the "price too low to list"??
TurboKits.com
11-09-2005, 06:12 PM
I talked to Turbonetics. The kits should be ready mid Dec.
Also, a big question I get is about the piping. It is all aluminum and the finish is called Black Chrome. It looks as cool as it sounds :)
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
Stu_Gotti
11-09-2005, 06:21 PM
Tight like frog's a$$ :) I cant wait!
TurboKits.com
11-09-2005, 06:48 PM
LOL, frog's a$$!
Funny Sh$t man!
Jesse
Tight like frog's a$$ :) I cant wait!
cmlloveless
11-10-2005, 12:54 PM
This question is alittle off topic, but it still concerns your kit!
What makes a kit a stag0,1,2,3? is it just what the company making desires to call it? Because I notice that this kit is comparabale to the ZPI stage 1 in price and products that come with the kit. So what makes this kit a stage 2 as aposed to a stage 1 since they did not even make a stage 1?
mattssi
11-10-2005, 01:45 PM
Its up to teh company adn whatever they want to call it.
I want a stage 4.357 when it comes out.
Stu_Gotti
11-10-2005, 02:04 PM
Hmm.. I have always wondered the same thing. So its not dependant upon the items that make up the kit? LOL.. I thought a stage 1 was a turbo set up minus the intercooler, and the stage 2 was w/ intercooler. LOL.. :doh: I'm such a jerk! LOL
TurboKits.com
11-10-2005, 02:27 PM
Originally it was based on the stage of the wheel in the turbine the higher the stage the more HP the turbocharger could produce. Then it morphed into stage I being without and intercooler and or fuel management and a stage II being more complete w/ the IC, fuel compaonents, etc.. and Stage III being more of a race kit, not really meant for the stock engine. Now, most companies just call it whatever they want. There isn't really any standardization.
The turbonetics kit that we have been talking about is made to be safe on the stock engine at 8 PSI, but the kit itself has the capability to flow close to 400WHP with the right engine build and tuning. Just turn up the boost!
** disclaimer: do not just turn up the boost without properly building the engine and professioanlly tuning the EMS **
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
Hmm.. I have always wondered the same thing. So its not dependant upon the items that make up the kit? LOL.. I thought a stage 1 was a turbo set up minus the intercooler, and the stage 2 was w/ intercooler. LOL.. :doh: I'm such a jerk! LOL
Stu_Gotti
11-10-2005, 02:42 PM
Ooooo.. got ya.. I knew it was something along those lines. I guess I've been away from the boards for a while, and lost my "suedo-mechanical touch" ;) Haha.. I just listen and try and pick up on things, and I definelty get interested when it comes to doing internal and F/I work on our cars.
So basically what I'm gathering now from my readings is that I could technically get this kit, only running 8PSI and basically drive this daily and not really suffer (true/false)? I know upgrading the clutch is something that should be done, now I've learned slightly about compression ratios.. so then a block with 8.5.1 would be great for boosted apps? I would ultimately want to be able to run a higher level of boost, and make 300 or more WHP. Jess.. Gotta say man, you've definelty provided some good info, also some other guys have too. Preciate all the insight! :)
cmlloveless
11-10-2005, 02:52 PM
So basically your stage 2 and ZPI's stage 1 are at the same level just different names because of different company.(and give or take a few parts)
What is the difference between your piggyback ECU and ZPI's pretuned emanage?
cmlloveless
11-10-2005, 02:54 PM
P.S. do you know what fuel injectors they are running yet?
TurboKits.com
11-10-2005, 02:59 PM
Hey Stu,
Yes, you are correct, you can buy this Turbonetics kit, 100% bolt on and plug and play. No worries. The clutch is a wearable item it will wear down faster with the additional power. You could atleast run the stock clutch until it starts to slip and then upgrade. However, if your finances allow'd, get the clutch with the kit.
In regards to the compression you are 50% correct. For high boost applications 20+PSI you need to lower the compression to continue using pump gas. However, at 8 PSI you should be 250+ WHP already so 300WHP would only be a few PSI away. Install forged pistons, rings & rods running stock compression, head studs and a good head gasket, you could see your 300WHP goal easily without dropping the compression.
Remember lowering the compression will lower your off boost HP. So you will feel a bit more slugish before the boost hits. So if you can keep your stock compression and get to your goals, you will be much happier in the long run.
Hope this made sense, if not, just let me know :)
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
Ooooo.. got ya.. I knew it was something along those lines. I guess I've been away from the boards for a while, and lost my "suedo-mechanical touch" ;) Haha.. I just listen and try and pick up on things, and I definelty get interested when it comes to doing internal and F/I work on our cars.
So basically what I'm gathering now from my readings is that I could technically get this kit, only running 8PSI and basically drive this daily and not really suffer (true/false)? I know upgrading the clutch is something that should be done, now I've learned slightly about compression ratios.. so then a block with 8.5.1 would be great for boosted apps? I would ultimately want to be able to run a higher level of boost, and make 300 or more WHP. Jess.. Gotta say man, you've definelty provided some good info, also some other guys have too. Preciate all the insight! :)
Stu_Gotti
11-10-2005, 03:02 PM
Outstanding explanation! Thanks a lot bro! I just need to hear it once, and it usually sticks. Made it nice and clear. Hopefully my car gets fixed here soon, and that kit is as good as bought :) Preciate it!
TurboKits.com
11-10-2005, 03:20 PM
Correct... Since they start with Stage 0, the Stage I is like the Turbonetics Stage II.
If you want to make it easier, you could say they are both street kits.
The differences in the ECUs:
1) I am not sure how ZPi does it, but the Unichip in the Turbonetics kit is plug and play with harness, etc. No need to actually chop into the existing harness which you typically need to do w/ the eManage.
2) The unichip isn't just a +% over stock, it actually runs it's own fuel and timing maps just like a standalone. I would say it is more like the eManage Ultimate without having to hack into your stock factory harness.
3) the Unichip can also control:
Variable cam timing switch-over points
Electronic boost control
Water injection
Override speed limiter
Drive additional injectors
Raise your rev limiter
Control progressive nitrous control with retarded timing
Provide launch control on turbo-charged applications
Remove the alternator load under prescribed conditions
Replace mechanical ignition system with mapped ignition
Optimize timing and fuel map settings
Here is a great link: http://www.unichip.us/faq.asp
The Unichip is top notch, but I wouldn't expect anything else from Turbonetics.
In regards to the injectors, due to the large size of the stock injectors, my guess is they will atleast be 525 if not 550cc. However, don't quote me as Turbonetics as not released the specs yet.
Let me know if you need anything else :)
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
So basically your stage 2 and ZPI's stage 1 are at the same level just different names because of different company.(and give or take a few parts)
What is the difference between your piggyback ECU and ZPI's pretuned emanage?
cmlloveless
11-11-2005, 12:26 AM
great answer! man I like your customer service! I will not have the money until next summer, but I will definetly be getting this kit! Not only for the power, but it has great cosmetic value as well. Very nice!
I am asuming the price I was quoted in an email was a pre-sale price and will go up as soon as the kit comes out?
TimmyT
11-11-2005, 01:56 AM
personally I think a 470cc injector would be ideal unless you want to build a 400 whp monster.
TurboKits.com
11-11-2005, 02:06 PM
Unfortunately... However, a $500 deposit will hold the kit until March, 06 at thhat price...
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
great answer! man I like your customer service! I will not have the money until next summer, but I will definetly be getting this kit! Not only for the power, but it has great cosmetic value as well. Very nice!
I am asuming the price I was quoted in an email was a pre-sale price and will go up as soon as the kit comes out?
cmlloveless
11-11-2005, 03:12 PM
Now only if I had $500
I get a pay raise($1300 month) starting in Dec. So I will then be saving for a turbo kit! I guess I will just have to pay full price!
TurboKits.com
11-11-2005, 03:28 PM
Don't worry, we'll still give you the best price possible :)
Jesse
Now only if I had $500
I get a pay raise($1300 month) starting in Dec. So I will then be saving for a turbo kit! I guess I will just have to pay full price!
kungpaosamuraiii
11-11-2005, 03:48 PM
Well if you can't release the full price could you give at least this:
More than or less than 3500 for the full price?
mattssi
11-11-2005, 03:59 PM
^ ^ ^
GODLESS
11-11-2005, 04:11 PM
Jesse, is the price the same as the last time you PM me or did it drop some more??
After seeing these images of the kit, i'm seriously thinking of putting a deposit down.
TurboKits.com
11-11-2005, 04:17 PM
I can only give out the retail price which is $5595. However, I can tell you our price is much, much lower. I just can't advertize it... Sorry.
You can always PM me for the price.
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
Well if you can't release the full price could you give at least this:
More than or less than 3500 for the full price?
atodak
11-11-2005, 04:27 PM
much much lower sounds like 4-5g's to me
TurboKits.com
11-11-2005, 04:33 PM
Same as before... Trust me, we are ofloading the first 5 to get the kit out and get some feedback. I can't go any lower... This pre-release special price is the lowest you will see this kit.
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
Jesse, is the price the same as the last time you PM me or did it drop some more??
After seeing these images of the kit, i'm seriously thinking of putting a deposit down.
cmlloveless
11-11-2005, 05:05 PM
It is avery low price! and if I had the money right now to reserve one I would not even hesitate! Kinda wish I had not spent my money on fiberglass mods now!
shuttlegoosecock
11-11-2005, 05:26 PM
is the 500 dollar deposit added on to the already very low price? and if we put the deposit, and back out by the time we give the rest of the money, is our 500 lost?
Dixie_Flatline
11-11-2005, 05:31 PM
Man, I have been looking at turbonetics website for this kit, and it was here the whole time. Looks like I'm gonna have to start selling organs again... How many livers do I need again?
TurboKits.com
11-11-2005, 05:35 PM
Funny you ask... We just started accepting major organs as payment!
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
P.S. Please send all $$$ and payment questions to PM as I can't discuss them publicly...
Thanks
Man, I have been looking at turbonetics website for this kit, and it was here the whole time. Looks like I'm gonna have to start selling organs again... How many livers do I need again?
Stu_Gotti
11-11-2005, 08:10 PM
:pray:
Hopefully my car gets fixed under warranty, cause if it does.. I got $4500.00 for a turbo :)
Harman
11-11-2005, 11:12 PM
Stu, are you really 69? :P
Stu_Gotti
11-12-2005, 01:04 PM
Haha.. naw! ;) 23.. just figured I'd get my favorite # out there :) Haha.. your the 1st to ask me that.
boostedscion
11-12-2005, 07:01 PM
oh that is nice ... more turbo kits is good
TurboKits.com
11-14-2005, 03:16 PM
Yes and with the quality and R&D put into this kit. It is a win win...
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
oh that is nice ... more turbo kits is good
TurboKits.com
11-23-2005, 01:28 PM
Hello All,
I would like to thank you for your deposits. I am going away for the Holiday but I will check back this evening before I leave. So if there are any questions, please let me know between now and then...
Thanks :)
Jesse @ www.turbo-kits.com
Stu_Gotti
11-23-2005, 01:30 PM
Can I deposit money, and if I dont get my car fixed under warranty, get that money refunded? Thanks!
TurboKits.com
11-23-2005, 08:45 PM
Sorry, the Admins locked the thread... PM'd
Jesse @ www.turbo-kits.com
Can I deposit money, and if I dont get my car fixed under warranty, get that money refunded? Thanks!
boostedscion
11-24-2005, 05:36 PM
hmmm i saw that before.. needs more stuff
TurboKits.com
11-28-2005, 05:13 PM
Ok, we're back... You have only 3 days left to get your deposits in... Please PM, e-mail or call.
Thanks
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
hmmm i saw that before.. needs more stuff
TurboKits.com
11-30-2005, 11:51 PM
I just wanted to thank everyone who ordered a kit. I just talked to Turbonetics. Looks like they will be ready soon.
Thanks again for all of your support, inquiries, etc...
Remember, we can still get these kits, don't hesitate to contact us for our most current price. Also, if you need anything else, clutches, gauges, injectors, controllers, etc... We can get almost everything on the market, so don't be shy...
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
ScionLawyer
12-01-2005, 03:18 AM
Jesse - You should have my deposit. Keep us informed as to the release date.
TurboKits.com
12-01-2005, 02:12 PM
You have an e-mail :)
Jesse
Jesse - You should have my deposit. Keep us informed as to the release date.
marcymarc
12-01-2005, 02:40 PM
so, have you guys gotten to get this thing on a dyno yet, and produce some #'s?
or more info about the kit's specs?
looks really nice by the way
TurboKits.com
12-01-2005, 02:45 PM
Yes, I am sure Turbonetics has put more hours on the DYNO with this thing than I can even think of. They just haven't released an official sheet yet.
However, Typical gains at 8 PSI are 100 WHP +/-
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
so, have you guys gotten to get this thing on a dyno yet, and produce some #'s?
or more info about the kit's specs?
looks really nice by the way
agmech
12-01-2005, 09:26 PM
Been e-mailing Grant and just found out I HAVE to run premium with this setup....DAMN! DAMN YOU OIL WAR!!
TurboKits.com
12-01-2005, 09:34 PM
Pretty much standard issue with Turbo cars...
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
Been e-mailing Grant and just found out I HAVE to run premium with this setup....DAMN! DAMN YOU OIL WAR!!
agmech
12-02-2005, 01:20 AM
I knew that, but I was just hoping...nah praying some new technology you've developed would allow me to run the cheap stuff considering how high gas prices are. OH WELL!
Jimmy
12-02-2005, 01:23 AM
pm'd
TurboKits.com
12-02-2005, 02:10 PM
Got it, replied :)
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
pm'd
IAmTheProdigy
12-04-2005, 12:56 AM
This kit looks pretty nice, sending PM for price.
Jowie
12-04-2005, 02:03 AM
Been e-mailing Grant and just found out I HAVE to run premium with this setup....DAMN! DAMN YOU OIL WAR!!
Hrmmm came across this on unichips site:
Will I need to use high-octane fuel with the Unichip?
Your engine should always be tuned using the fuel you intend to use. If, for example, you like to race your car on the weekends, two ignition maps can be entered into the Unichip. The first would be for daily driving utilizing low-octane fuel. The second map would be for racing, utilizing high-octane fuel. Switching between the two maps can be accomplished with a simple toggle switch.
So, looks like if the unichip isnt tuned for low octane fuel with the kit, you can go get a custom tune and a toggle switch installed to switch between high and low octane maps.
Jowie
12-04-2005, 02:04 AM
Hey All,
I talked to Turbonetics and they are not releasing any further info about the kit until the SEMA show. No DYNO's, nothing. One thing they did say was their test car was 100% stock, stock cat, stock exhaust, stock everything at 8 PSI.
Eitherway, I would love to get a few of these out and testing the potential. So PM me if you are interested in our Wholesale deal.
Sorry.
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
Its after SEMA now isn't it? :D
IAmTheProdigy
12-04-2005, 02:46 AM
Been e-mailing Grant and just found out I HAVE to run premium with this setup....DAMN! DAMN YOU OIL WAR!!
Hrmmm came across this on unichips site:
Will I need to use high-octane fuel with the Unichip?
Your engine should always be tuned using the fuel you intend to use. If, for example, you like to race your car on the weekends, two ignition maps can be entered into the Unichip. The first would be for daily driving utilizing low-octane fuel. The second map would be for racing, utilizing high-octane fuel. Switching between the two maps can be accomplished with a simple toggle switch.
So, looks like if the unichip isnt tuned for low octane fuel with the kit, you can go get a custom tune and a toggle switch installed to switch between high and low octane maps.
Wow, gret find. This makes the kit seem even more appealing with that flexibility.
TurboKits.com
12-05-2005, 07:54 PM
Yeah, I just checked with Turbonetics and they still don't have one for release. Sorry.
They did tell me that they have heard of many problems with the kits that run the eManage and the ECU's re-learning. They said the Turbonetics kit is currently the only kit on the market without those issues. The Unichip does not allow the ECU to re-learn and re-program itself.
Also, the ETA is still mid DEC on the kits, so hopefully we can have some real work results soon.
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
Hey All,
I talked to Turbonetics and they are not releasing any further info about the kit until the SEMA show. No DYNO's, nothing. One thing they did say was their test car was 100% stock, stock cat, stock exhaust, stock everything at 8 PSI.
Eitherway, I would love to get a few of these out and testing the potential. So PM me if you are interested in our Wholesale deal.
Sorry.
Jesse @ Turbo Kits.com
Its after SEMA now isn't it? :D
Simplyscion
12-05-2005, 09:07 PM
Been e-mailing Grant and just found out I HAVE to run premium with this setup....DAMN! DAMN YOU OIL WAR!!
Hrmmm came across this on unichips site:
Will I need to use high-octane fuel with the Unichip?
Your engine should always be tuned using the fuel you intend to use. If, for example, you like to race your car on the weekends, two ignition maps can be entered into the Unichip. The first would be for daily driving utilizing low-octane fuel. The second map would be for racing, utilizing high-octane fuel. Switching between the two maps can be accomplished with a simple toggle switch.
So, looks like if the unichip isnt tuned for low octane fuel with the kit, you can go get a custom tune and a toggle switch installed to switch between high and low octane maps.
Naa, what they are talking about is something like 91 or 93 for the low octane, and then probly something like C-16 as the race application. It just is not smart to run anything lower than 91 for a turbo car, but its up to you what you wanna do...its your car. You may not hear any audible knock, but rest assure there is gonna be slight detonation that you cant detect w/out a knock light.
Jowie
12-05-2005, 09:13 PM
Been e-mailing Grant and just found out I HAVE to run premium with this setup....DAMN! DAMN YOU OIL WAR!!
Hrmmm came across this on unichips site:
Will I need to use high-octane fuel with the Unichip?
Your engine should always be tuned using the fuel you intend to use. If, for example, you like to race your car on the weekends, two ignition maps can be entered into the Unichip. The first would be for daily driving utilizing low-octane fuel. The second map would be for racing, utilizing high-octane fuel. Switching between the two maps can be accomplished with a simple toggle switch.
So, looks like if the unichip isnt tuned for low octane fuel with the kit, you can go get a custom tune and a toggle switch installed to switch between high and low octane maps.
Naa, what they are talking about is something like 91 or 93 for the low octane, and then probly something like C-16 as the race application. It just is not smart to run anything lower than 91 for a turbo car, but its up to you what you wanna do...its your car. You may not hear any audible knock, but rest assure there is gonna be slight detonation that you cant detect w/out a knock light.
Agreed, never said it was smart, but that it is possible. lol
TurboKits.com
12-05-2005, 09:17 PM
I agree 100%... The $.20 savings isn't worth your engine...
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
Been e-mailing Grant and just found out I HAVE to run premium with this setup....DAMN! DAMN YOU OIL WAR!!
Hrmmm came across this on unichips site:
Will I need to use high-octane fuel with the Unichip?
Your engine should always be tuned using the fuel you intend to use. If, for example, you like to race your car on the weekends, two ignition maps can be entered into the Unichip. The first would be for daily driving utilizing low-octane fuel. The second map would be for racing, utilizing high-octane fuel. Switching between the two maps can be accomplished with a simple toggle switch.
So, looks like if the unichip isnt tuned for low octane fuel with the kit, you can go get a custom tune and a toggle switch installed to switch between high and low octane maps.
Naa, what they are talking about is something like 91 or 93 for the low octane, and then probly something like C-16 as the race application. It just is not smart to run anything lower than 91 for a turbo car, but its up to you what you wanna do...its your car. You may not hear any audible knock, but rest assure there is gonna be slight detonation that you cant detect w/out a knock light.
nissansource
12-06-2005, 08:58 PM
As with any FI setup, Premium fuel must be used. Unichip is a great system which will control timing and fuel. im pretty sure this kit will offer a Front Mount Intercooler system as with every turbokit TN makes. I currently run the 350z Turbokit from them and its a fantastic piece. Also the Kit might come with a larger fuel pump, and im sure i can verify this with my TN contact.
tcholic
12-06-2005, 10:47 PM
GROUP BUY!
TurboKits.com
12-06-2005, 10:57 PM
Where were you guys. We offered it at a price you will never see again through all of november! Even a groupbuy price wouldn't be that low.
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
GROUP BUY!
Simplyscion
12-07-2005, 12:33 AM
Whatsup Jesse...glad to see things are going good for you here on this site soo far...you guys been pumping out a lot of xB TSI kits lately cause I got a lot of kids asking questions and I have been sending them your way...Any word from Revhard ever again cause I noticed you completely dropped them off your page for the xA/xB
TurboKits.com
12-07-2005, 02:55 PM
We get a steady stream of questions... I appreciate your referrals :)
I followed up with Rev Hard for about a year on the kit and nothing moved so I stopped chasing them down about it.
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
Whatsup Jesse...glad to see things are going good for you here on this site soo far...you guys been pumping out a lot of xB TSI kits lately cause I got a lot of kids asking questions and I have been sending them your way...Any word from Revhard ever again cause I noticed you completely dropped them off your page for the xA/xB
cmlloveless
12-07-2005, 06:45 PM
Tax Returns! Need I say more!
TurboKits.com
12-13-2005, 03:24 PM
Once these kits are released we are going to be keeping a few in stock at all times, so let me know when you are ready :)
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
Tax Returns! Need I say more!
marcymarc
12-13-2005, 03:37 PM
are you guys releasing the kit before the DNYO chart?
just curious.
TurboKits.com
12-13-2005, 03:40 PM
It is not us actually, Turbonetics made the kit and they have not released the DYNO charts yet... Sorry, my hand are tied on this one.
However, we have 7 or 8 of them already sold, so I cam sure you will see some real world results once the kits are ready.
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
are you guys releasing the kit before the DNYO chart?
just curious.
marcymarc
12-13-2005, 03:43 PM
oh, im not trying to bash or anything.. the kit looks amazing, better than mine (zpi), i know your not the one personally responsible for this. lol.
im just really curious though.. im sure the kit makes really good power.
bookmarked!
TurboKits.com
12-13-2005, 03:50 PM
No problem... I didn't take it that way. I was just clarifying for people who might have read it and though I was purposely holding out :)
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
oh, im not trying to bash or anything.. the kit looks amazing, better than mine (zpi), i know your not the one personally responsible for this. lol.
im just really curious though.. im sure the kit makes really good power.
bookmarked!
TurboKits.com
12-22-2005, 09:06 PM
Hey All,
I just talked to Turbonetics. Looks like latest ETA is Mid Jan... I have already called all of the customers with deposits, so I thought I would update the board too.
Happy Holidays 8)
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
SpaldingSpeed
12-23-2005, 03:29 AM
Unichip....are you kidding?....surely you can find SOMETHING better than that old technology
SpaldingSpeed
12-23-2005, 03:32 AM
wow....this kit looks EXTREMELY similiar (including placement of wastegate/dumptube) to another one that has been out for a while now.....gee...wait, oh yeah...ZPI....and an almost identical log manifold too....wow...I'm impressed :rolleyes:
WeDriveScions
12-23-2005, 04:18 AM
^ Not neccesary at all....
The design and final product on this kit is pretty impressive and looks well...
There are +'s and -'s with each kit in regards to service/design/customability..... be fair...
reagulator
12-23-2005, 04:41 AM
every turbo kit out there will look similar to each other. its the quality of the parts that seperates the rest. The differences will be hard to find for the untrained eye. such as myself
Dakahn
12-23-2005, 05:57 AM
every turbo kit out there will look similar to each other. its the quality of the parts that seperates the rest. The differences will be hard to find for the untrained eye. such as myself
^^^Agreed... Plus the companies who is producing this turbo (Turbonetics) is relatively well known outside the Scion community versus let say ZPI (not knocking them) who is bit geared at the moment towards the scion community in which we appreciate all there efforts! :P Anyways....
kungpaosamuraiii
12-23-2005, 07:05 AM
All kits include a manifold, a turbo, some more piping, and perhaps a BOV and WG.
The real difference would be when the tubular manifolds start coming out along with the different designs each company uses.
In any case, this kit differs from ZPI's kit in that the BOV goes back to the intake piping. That should fix some idling problems or something or rather. The log looks exactly the same though - collector is on the driver side and the waste gate sits sticking out at the center of the log. Dezod's log has the WG stocking out of the collector.
TurboKits.com
12-23-2005, 01:53 PM
Currently the Unichip is the piggy back that is proven successful in keeping the stock ECU from learning and reprograming itself. Call it what you will, but it works!
Just ask anyone that has tried to tune a Toyota ECU w/ an eManage, Lexus IS300 included. You will get about 500 miles out of it before it starts the re-learning process. I say this not by hearsay, but by my many IS300 customers that had the same issue. There are work arounds, but they require multiple tuning sessions and more equipment. Not to mention you have to splice into your stock harness.
Compare that with the Unichip's plug n play (no splice) harness and 100% success rate on the Toyota ECU and you can see why it was chosen. Turbonetics tends to use the best technology out for the specific application. When they designed their 350Z/G35 kits they went right to Technosquare for the ECU tuning and re-flash equipment.
Please do not pick up any attitude form me, it is not meant to come across that way. I am just stating the facts... Ultimately the public will decide what they want to use.
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
Unichip....are you kidding?....surely you can find SOMETHING better than that old technology
TurboKits.com
12-23-2005, 02:02 PM
Yes, Turbo + MAF = BOV Recirc. You will have problems with the idle and the car stalling after a hard run if the BOV goes to the atmosphere. Again, this is from expierence and not hearsay... I type this so people no I am not basing things off of what I may have heard, but by actual customers and my years of tech support in this industry...
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
All kits include a manifold, a turbo, some more piping, and perhaps a BOV and WG.
The real difference would be when the tubular manifolds start coming out along with the different designs each company uses.
In any case, this kit differs from ZPI's kit in that the BOV goes back to the intake piping. That should fix some idling problems or something or rather. The log looks exactly the same though - collector is on the driver side and the waste gate sits sticking out at the center of the log. Dezod's log has the WG stocking out of the collector.
cmlloveless
12-26-2005, 04:30 PM
Man... Out of all the many hours drooling over these pics and this kit
I did not even notice the the BOV vented back into the intake! That is even more lovely a thing!
TurboKits.com
12-27-2005, 01:35 PM
*** Homer Simpson Voice ***
mmmmmmmmmm.... Recirculating Blow off valve.... aaarrgglllhhh drool!
LOL
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
Man... Out of all the many hours drooling over these pics and this kit
I did not even notice the the BOV vented back into the intake! That is even more lovely a thing!
cmlloveless
12-27-2005, 05:01 PM
Agreed! And less of a hiss noise!
TurboKits.com
12-30-2005, 06:06 PM
Update.... Official DYNO Release
This is at only 8 PSI and it 100% bolt on and Plug n Play HP!
The best pull with the TRD Supercharger was 200 WHP!
Can I get a Hell Yeah!
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
marcymarc
12-30-2005, 06:08 PM
how many psi was that with?
Simplyscion
12-30-2005, 06:37 PM
8 psi as stated above
marcymarc
12-30-2005, 06:40 PM
ok, not trying to be mean, but im not that much of an idiot, i asked him, and he updated it with the info.
TurboKits.com
12-30-2005, 06:49 PM
Yeah, sorry, it wasn't in the post at first. He asked it, I updated the post and sent him a PM...
My Bad
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
8 psi as stated above
ScionLawyer
01-04-2006, 07:55 PM
Jesse: I guess from the other thread that this turbo kit has now been officially released? I assume you are just waiting for your initial shipment of kits from Turbonetics? Do you have any idea when you will get your allotment of turbo kits? How soon after that do you anticipate shipping to customers with deposits?
TurboKits.com
01-04-2006, 08:17 PM
Funny you ask... I was just talking with my Turbonetics rep and everything for the kit is doen except the downpipe's. They should be coming in the week of the 23rd. This is the latest update, but seems to be pretty solid as this is the only piece that is left of the puzzle :)
I have 10 kits coming to me and 8 of them are sold! All customers with deposits will get their kits shipped directly from Turbonetics so they get the kits faster.
I will be calling all of the customers with deposits the week of the 16th to gget final payment in anticipation for the kits shipping the following week...
Let me know if you have any other questions...
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
Jesse: I guess from the other thread that this turbo kit has now been officially released? I assume you are just waiting for your initial shipment of kits from Turbonetics? Do you have any idea when you will get your allotment of turbo kits? How soon after that do you anticipate shipping to customers with deposits?
MIAPLAYA
01-04-2006, 08:17 PM
Jesse: I guess from the other thread that this turbo kit has now been officially released? I assume you are just waiting for your initial shipment of kits from Turbonetics? Do you have any idea when you will get your allotment of turbo kits? How soon after that do you anticipate shipping to customers with deposits?
the kits are released and should ship by the third week of January. I'm pretty sure turbo-kits.com has some coming from the original batch of 25-30 that are going to ship. If so they should have the kits on the way by the last week of January.
TurboKits.com
01-06-2006, 02:57 PM
Yes sir, we have quite a few ordered out and have I think 10 coming upon release...
Like I said 8 are sold already, so contact us if you want to get in on the first run, if not, thhey may all get sold and then we'll have to wait until the next production run...
Jesse @ www.Turbo-Kits.com
Jesse: I guess from the other thread that this turbo kit has now been officially released? I assume you are just waiting for your initial shipment of kits from Turbonetics? Do you have any idea when you will get your allotment of turbo kits? How soon after that do you anticipate shipping to customers with deposits?
the kits are released and should ship by the third week of January. I'm pretty sure turbo-kits.com has some coming from the original batch of 25-30 that are going to ship. If so they should have the kits on the way by the last week of January.
TurboKits.com
01-30-2006, 09:43 PM
Good News & Bad News:
Bad News: Turbonetics will only have 10 kits ready for the first shipment. The rest of the kits should be ready mid-late Feb.
Good News: Turbo Kits.com is getting 8 out of the 10 kits :) So the first 8 customers that put in deposits w/ us will get their kits first!
So... With the Turbonetics minimum pricing policy coming into effect Feb 01, 2006. Now is the perfect time to lock in your kit at our discounted price (PM, e-mail or call). Also, in case they can only ship out a partial order in feb, make sure you buy from Turbo Kits.com so that you get your kit's first :)