View Full Version : Legal to use "Headlight Protectors"?


XEPHON
10-07-2005, 12:42 AM
Hello all,

I was wondering if it's legal to have the HID Headlights Protectors are legal in SoCal. I was planning on putting that HID film on my tC's headlights.

Thanks in advance,
Tim

maximus96
10-07-2005, 01:35 AM
HID film...hahaha..anyways, i used the clear one from rock blockers. can't even tell its on so there's no way for the popo's to determine its illegal.

johnnyTCblaze
10-07-2005, 01:37 AM
Hello all,

I was wondering if it's legal to have the HID Headlights Protectors are legal in SoCal. I was planning on putting that HID film on my tC's headlights.

Thanks in advance,
Tim

BUMP! I'm pondering the same question! :ponder:

johnnyTCblaze
10-07-2005, 01:40 AM
HID film...hahaha..anyways, i used the clear one from rock blockers. can't even tell its on so there's no way for the popo's to determine its illegal.

How about blue or yellow?

XEPHON
10-07-2005, 03:41 PM
Yeah, I seriously want them, but if I get the blue, it's OBVIOUS. I just need to know if it's legal or not before I go putting on that film.

Thanks

ack154
10-07-2005, 04:44 PM
Moved to DC... :lalala:

maximus96
10-07-2005, 04:53 PM
cops might write you up for the colored film if you were stopped for another reason. i doubt they'll pull you just for that. but who knows, CA cops are anal about these things and it all depends on where you live or drive around most of the time. you might be at a higher risk with the new crackdown on ricer sh!tboxes.

XEPHON
10-07-2005, 05:56 PM
Wow, that's risky to do...

I have no liscense plate on front, plan on tinting my windows, and the HID film.

Hm... I wonder if a cop would pull me over for those all at once.

Thanks in advance

maximus96
10-07-2005, 06:22 PM
I've been stopped before for no front plate. I put it in the windshield and it wasn't sufficient for Mr. Popo.

Friek
10-07-2005, 06:26 PM
I think U will be fine if its clear... if its tineted during the day it may be a different story.

Bgnome
10-07-2005, 06:37 PM
http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/streetlegal.html

tinted during the day is fine. its basically the same as the cars that have their headlights lowered when not in use.

generally, if it is judged to impair the effectiveness of the headlight, ie blackout tint, then it is likely illegal. if it is clear and the light shines white then you should be ok.

ProjectD
10-07-2005, 06:42 PM
I've been stopped before for no front plate. I put it in the windshield and it wasn't sufficient for Mr. Popo.
Me too! It just irks me that the cop went out of his way to stop me for no front plate.

jallamas
10-07-2005, 06:47 PM
XEPHON,

I asked a friend who is a Cop in Irvine and he said the the missing front plate will get you a ticket, the tinted windows are ok unless they are the drivers and passangers side. He said if you are a cool driver and do not get side ways you can get by with the tint on these windows, as far as the film on the lights as long as it clear he said GO FOR IT!



John

XEPHON
10-07-2005, 06:51 PM
I'm interested in getting the HID blue ones... Are those okay? They don't affect the lighting and it's just for looks.

Basically, I'm wondering if what they sell at "Headlight Armor" in HID for the headlights and tail lights... Legal or not?

Thanks in advance!

George
10-07-2005, 07:43 PM
Any modification to a component that requires DOT approval is, by definition, illegal.

That being said, cops are humans. If the modification is one that isn't noticable (clear, uncolored, film) or one that improves the safety of the component without disadvantage (like the LEDs I add inside the oh-so-dim taillights on my vintage cars) they are unlikely to bother you.

If the modification is obvious, by virtue of glare, odd color, etc. Don't be surprised if John Law takes immediate notice. They are particularly attentive to red lights displayed to the front and to blue lights in any direction, as cops view those colors as "theirs". Heck, I wish I was a cop now and then when some idiot comes up behind me with his "drop-in HID conversion" glaring all over the place.

If you happen to fall into a "high attention" group, don't be surprised if you get more attention. It may be unfair, but certain groups statistically cause more problems, so they get more attention from the cops. You may be the nicest guy on the planet, but if you go around adorned with multiple piercings and your sleeved-out tattooed arm hanging out the window you will get more attention. After all, that's what you went through all that expense and pain for, right? :)

It is rather amusing when people go to such great lengths to attract attention and then expect the police to ignore them. After all, we pay the cops to be vigilant!

THE_DON
10-07-2005, 08:01 PM
To answer the original poster, YES, blue film on your headlights is illegal in So.Cal., period.

So is yellow, BTW.

Do you remember when they used to make civic projector headlights that had blue outer lenses.... They USED to make them. Just like they USED to make clear taillights.

All I can say is, if a cop does pull you over for the blue film, you can try to just peel it off in front of him and avoid a ticket, but he still may give you one.

-THE DON

XEPHON
10-07-2005, 10:27 PM
No FAIR!!! Lexus RX 330+ years 2005+ have CLEAR TAIL LIGHTS!!!

maximus96
10-07-2005, 10:42 PM
but they also have a red reflective piece on the bumper or there abouts.

rwf
10-09-2005, 10:02 PM
how bad is the ticket if u get pulled over for hid's or smoked tails?

XEPHON
10-10-2005, 02:25 AM
Hm... What if I "red-out" the third Brake Light and have clear tail lights? That's just 'bout the same as what those Lexus are doing. So would that be legal now?

And the HID Film on the headlights... It doesn't affect the lighting in any way, knowing that it doesn't affect lighting, it's still illegal?

I just want to make sure before I go on putting on the film.

Thanks in advance!

maximus96
10-10-2005, 02:50 AM
where do you plan on getting clear tc tail lights?

XEPHON
10-10-2005, 04:16 AM
Don't know, I've posted a thread before requesting for clear tail lights. Not one has been made so far... I've noticed when a tC gets its' tail lights smashed it's all clear.

Thinking of somehow just changing the bulb of the rear tail lights and have the covering be clear so it'll be like the RX 330+. Not sure why no one has made clear tail lights yet, but eventually it'll come around.

As for the HID film on the headlights, knowing it doesn't affect lighting, and just for looks, is it still illegal?

George
10-13-2005, 01:03 AM
Don't know, I've posted a thread before requesting for clear tail lights. Not one has been made so far... I've noticed when a tC gets its' tail lights smashed it's all clear.

Thinking of somehow just changing the bulb of the rear tail lights and have the covering be clear so it'll be like the RX 330+. Not sure why no one has made clear tail lights yet, but eventually it'll come around.

As for the HID film on the headlights, knowing it doesn't affect lighting, and just for looks, is it still illegal?

If it changes the color of the light it _does_ change the light, and therefore is illegal.

boostedscion
10-26-2005, 12:13 PM
that's correct. still illegal. ANything that is not DOT approved

HeadlightArmor-com
10-26-2005, 09:37 PM
The legality varies from state to state, the easiest place to look if you are concerned about it is the vehicle inspection criteria. Some states it is a more a spirit of the law thing and some regressive states don't allow anything at all. Heck some states actually make you replace your headlights when they get pitted and turn milky, and others don't care.

With out HID Blue headlight protection kits the light still shines bright white, and during the day with the lights on it is hard to tell it the there at all (depending on the car, its color, overall lighting conditions etc). If you are really concerned about it we still offer the classic clear versions that will save your lights over the long term.

Here is TX the inspection criteria are suitably vague, so all is well.

HeadlightArmor (http://www.headlightarmor.com)

XEPHON
10-27-2005, 03:50 PM
Confused, so do the HID protectors affect lighting?

maximus96
10-27-2005, 04:03 PM
well, its technically illegal, but so is jaywalking and buttsecks in some states.

XEPHON
10-27-2005, 07:52 PM
Yeah...

From reading the description in Headlight Armor, they say the coloration comes out sort of HID, more like a immitation. If so, then it should be legal because ALL BMWs have sort of a HID...

So doesn't that mean that the HID film could fly by as legal?

George
10-29-2005, 12:05 AM
Yeah...

From reading the description in Headlight Armor, they say the coloration comes out sort of HID, more like a immitation. If so, then it should be legal because ALL BMWs have sort of a HID...

So doesn't that mean that the HID film could fly by as legal?

No. HID lights have a characteristic light color. The "fake HID" films and bulbs imitate that color by filtering out the yellow/red wavelengths emitted by the conventional bulb. The act of filtering out is alteration of the light (actually, making it dimmer) and therefore makes the light illegal.

More directly, unless it is DOT approved, no light cover is legal, at least in California!

Why is it that people who desperately want to attract attention to their car and themselves by running odd colored lights get annoyed when some of that attention comes from the police? :)