thought Id share a few pics of my xB going rally. A few extrior mods, looks pretty good after lots of metal working.
http://my.prostreetonline.com/album/Tribal%20scion%20xB/main.jpg
whats that white stuff on your bumper and sideskirt?
rallying_the_scion
10-22-2005, 01:53 AM
Tribal Graphics. I havent taken new pics yet, but the side skirts are gone, and the lower bumper halves got ripped off after hurricane Rita, going through a ditch to get to a friends house too it off. You can see the graphics on the hood to.
2006XB
10-22-2005, 01:54 AM
damn, and i get ____ed when a leaf lands on my xb. looks like fun, but i could never do that to my car.
rallying_the_scion
10-22-2005, 01:58 AM
I use to be the same, but i realized that I should have fun with the car, so the hell with being pretty, lets have fun, besides, i got scratches all over the xB now, all the fallen trees in the area, well, you were gonna get scratched.
RedneckwithanxB
10-22-2005, 02:18 AM
were we twins that were seperated at birth???
i do that on a weekly basis, and i thought i was the only one
love the front bar, did mine a little different
ummmmmmm, maybe we should start a club of some sort
what do you think
dude you rule
bB626
10-22-2005, 02:27 AM
hahahaha!!!!!!! SWEET!!!!! i love the first pic!!!
rallying_the_scion
10-22-2005, 03:06 AM
RedneckwithanxB
Dang, maybe twins?????
A club for rally/redneck scions would be bada$$, i do agree.
WOW!! I looked at all the pics on that site..... That has got to be the most trashed, beat up xB I have ever seen...... :doh:
I won't even drive into a dirt parking lot.... :lalala: :rofl:
RedneckwithanxB
10-22-2005, 03:47 AM
if you aint muddin, you aint living baby
bB2NER
10-22-2005, 03:47 AM
Damn, When I forst saw this topic I thought it was about autoXing not Offroad Rallying LOL. I autocross mine and have fun doing it. Would never do this sort of thing with an almost new vehicle though. Not even when it gets to be 10 years old. Don't really think they were made or built to take that kind of abuse. IMO
The pics do look cool. It's funny to see the different ways people come up with to have fun with their BOXES. Rock On Bro!!!
dittoprinter
10-22-2005, 05:50 PM
:bow: :bow: :bow:
Never in my wildest dreams would I have tought to use the xB for an off-road rally car.
And I thought I was having fun in mine just driving around town.
You have my admiration and utmost respect.
:bow: :bow: :bow:
mikee1680
10-22-2005, 06:26 PM
haha that's cool man. something different for a change
Haha, the homemade BB emblem owns! http://my.prostreetonline.com/album/Tribal%20scion%20xB/bBemb.jpg
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Dude the first pic rocks man (literally). :bow: I tried drifting my xb on wet roads, almost hit a dumpster :doh:
Not brave though to do dat again even on gravel roads w/ my xb. :nails:
Mosh_xB
10-23-2005, 02:10 PM
hahahaah NICE!!!
ScionxBforlife108
10-23-2005, 03:03 PM
That would be awsome to do that to a scion.. maybe you will see them sooner or later in races. haha :rofl:
jallamas
10-23-2005, 03:44 PM
:come: I want to see some jumps from this XB, I can take my go cart and do that in the dirt....lets see some berm jumping like a real rally car would do! :clap: Keep up the ggod work!
bB626
10-23-2005, 04:45 PM
yes! we want jump shots! :D
Complication
10-23-2005, 04:51 PM
that'd be the funnyest thing in the world. 15 toasters slagging around a huge pile of rocks! lol....an all xB rally circuit! wow, thats sounds like somthing you'd see on espn2 @ like 2 am....
killerxromances
10-23-2005, 05:02 PM
I thought about doing this but decided autocross was more suited for me. I might eventually, when i get tired of autocross.
Thats the cool thing about rally, you don't need much power to win. You just need to have the right gearing, and lots of experience. Having 600whp is pointless in dirt and gravel.
Do you do this for fun or comp.? Whered you go to do it?
Cya
corprin
10-23-2005, 05:17 PM
too bad you can't get the AWD type there!
killerxromances
10-23-2005, 05:20 PM
too bad you can't get the AWD type there!
If you have enough money, import the AWD bB. :)
Cya
rallying_the_scion
10-25-2005, 02:57 AM
jethro_b, Actually, the xB is holding up great to the abuse, I do a PM on the car every oil change, and hardly and wear.
dittoprinter, thanks for the admiration, do as scions moto " What Moves You "
killerxromances, I do it for fun on the back roads, I dont know where i could do it for competition, cant really afford it. Good idea though.
corprin, you just wait, i got 2 4X4 blazers, 1 rebuilt V6, and a xB, the future, hehe, itll look almost stock cept a small boddy lift, i know how to fit it, secret. I might buy the AWD option kit and ship it here.
jallamas, bB626, And for ya'll, You want jump shots!!!!!
Ill get you jump shots, the xB airborn, give me a week or so to prepare, and youll have a airborn xB!!!!
killerxromances
10-25-2005, 03:05 AM
jethro_b, Actually, the xB is holding up great to the abuse, I do a PM on the car every oil change, and hardly and wear.
dittoprinter, thanks for the admiration, do as scions moto " What Moves You "
killerxromances, I do it for fun on the back roads, I dont know where i could do it for competition, cant really afford it. Good idea though.
corprin, you just wait, i got 2 4X4 blazers, 1 rebuilt V6, and a xB, the future, hehe, itll look almost stock cept a small boddy lift, i know how to fit it, secret. I might buy the AWD option kit and ship it here.
jallamas, bB626, And for ya'll, You want jump shots!!!!!
Ill get you jump shots, the xB airborn, give me a week or so to prepare, and youll have a airborn xB!!!!
I'm pretty sure we don't have anything in the states for rally competition. If we did that would definitely be killer. But unlike a lot of countries, it seems most americans don't use their mods/stock cars like they are made for. I.E: Buying a 12psi turbo for a rsx-s and never driving it on any track, just for looks. A.I.E: hummers. Off road? I rarely ever see a hummer with dirt. Its great people take care of their cars, but if a car is made for something, i think you should drive it that way. (In safe conditions obviously.)
Cya
rallying_the_scion
10-25-2005, 03:07 AM
o yes, heres a few pics with the side skirts and lower rear bumper removed.
http://my.prostreetonline.com/album/pic.asp?u=Tribal scion xB&p=yrdxb2.jpghttp://my.prostreetonline.com/album/Tribal%20scion%20xB/yrdxb.jpg
rallying_the_scion
10-25-2005, 03:16 AM
killerxromances, your right. I drive this car on the back gravel roads, no one is back there. Saftey first as you said. The camera guy, is out of the way as well. And the PMs at every oil change, saftey to make sure all is intact. However, as you stated, ill go with the saftey, now driving the car for what they are made to be for, well rally, it looks like it is, but i wouldnt call it a rally car by far, but hell, im gonna have fun with it!!!!!!!!!
frday13
10-25-2005, 03:27 AM
I'm impressed!
killerxromances
10-25-2005, 05:00 AM
killerxromances, your right. I drive this car on the back gravel roads, no one is back there. Saftey first as you said. The camera guy, is out of the way as well. And the PMs at every oil change, saftey to make sure all is intact. However, as you stated, ill go with the saftey, now driving the car for what they are made to be for, well rally, it looks like it is, but i wouldnt call it a rally car by far, but hell, im gonna have fun with it!!!!!!!!!
I saw something about bB's being in some rally circuit. The AWD models. Its not too hard to believe. It wasn't a professional level, but like amature level. Pretty interesting. The xb with some mods can definitely be a rally machine.
Your lights is a start. If you wanted to go all out. header, take off the exhaust for when you do it, buy a roll cage and 4 point harness, short shifter (if 5sp), shift kit (if auto), and then a few other ins and odds and you'll be ready to go.
Thats just my view of doing it. Theres tons of ways. But roll cage, harness would definitely be a must if you were really wanting to do it a lot..
Cya
fachiro1
10-25-2005, 05:11 AM
Hats off to ya Rally! That first pic is awesome.........DRIFTING!
BLKScion
10-25-2005, 06:44 AM
damn, thats sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rallying_the_scion
10-25-2005, 11:53 PM
[quote=rallying_the_scion]I saw something about bB's being in some rally circuit. The AWD models. Its not too hard to believe. It wasn't a professional level, but like amature level. Pretty interesting. The xb with some mods can definitely be a rally machine.
Your lights is a start. If you wanted to go all out. header, take off the exhaust for when you do it, buy a roll cage and 4 point harness, short shifter (if 5sp), shift kit (if auto), and then a few other ins and odds and you'll be ready to go.
Thats just my view of doing it. Theres tons of ways. But roll cage, harness would definitely be a must if you were really wanting to do it a lot..
Cya
Well, the exhaust has had some work done on it allready, not much, no muffler. Ive seen pics of a roll cage in a xB, and the idea is forming, just need to get the welder back and buy the tubing. The 4 point harness, dang your thinkin like me, Ive looked at seat, decisions, but need the money. I have a automatic, and havent thought about a shift kit, time to go look. I like your way of thinking.
And for the rest of ya'll, thanks for the comments:bow:
killerxromances
10-26-2005, 12:36 AM
^ ^
Good call. Rally is really good for top end, if you ever wanted to go forced induction turbo would be the best way to go. But of course, you don't have to go that route. Just another suggestion to through at you! :P
Its good to see your on the right page when it comes to this stuff. A lot of people think you can just go out and do it. Coilovers would be great as well, not dropping it too low but stiff spring rates i would imagine would help a lot regardless of traction in turns. I'm assuming your lights are functional? If not, better wire them up!! heh.
I saw your exhaust tip, at first i was like "oh man, that is one sad looking exhaust" But then i saw you were actually doing this so it makes up for it. No need to be fancy because the rocks kicked up definitely has the exhaust taken a beaten. Running no axle back at all would be cool as long as you don't go f/i. Its been proven you lose a lot of low end but gain a good amount on high end back..HP numbers, no TQ numbers. So now thinking about it further, keep the exhaust.
I also have an auto!! People that say autos can't have fun are so wrong. (no offense to those who think that way) I can definitely have fun manually shifting on autocross. Infact, i beat a lot of manual times in my class. Sometimes beyond my class because they can't handle the turns. Either unexperienced, or trying to push it too hard and lose traction.
Cya
rallying_the_scion
10-26-2005, 02:00 AM
Turbo is the best ya to go when looking at forced induction,no h/p lose to belt driven superchargers, not for me.
Ive been looking around at a tein suspension system, havent looked heavly into it yet, hope they make a suspension system for the xB. I was looking a stiffer suspension, with a small lift to the car rather than drop, not sure yet, a small drop will increase the handling.
The light, all wired up, the farthest passange light is busted, rock hit it. got to replace it. $5 for the entire light assemb. aint bad. I even have 2 lights on the top of the xB in the rear, they work great, wired them in today.
I originally just took the muffler off, but the heat melted the carpet and the foam box in the back, now a fire extigusher is under the drivers seat. My dad and I made the new exhauxt from exhaust flex pipe, and a few pieces of straight exhaust pipe, making the flange to mate to the original end on the exhaust was fun. a few hangers. Sounds great, and turns alot of heads. As you said, no need to be pretty, cause you hear the rocks hitting it on the gravel roads all the time.
So you shift through the gears manually to on your auto, I do the same. I dont race alot though, most cars in my area are far faster, but the xB passes them in the turns. Ive gone up on a V8 jeep, he stomped me, but on 2 90 degree turns, i took at 40 mph, i stomped him there, and took the finish lead to the stop light. I have lots of fun with a auto, but it would suck to have a standard, i drive to and from houston every day, and it would get old after a bit. Ill post a pic of the exhaust after a bit.
rallying_the_scion
10-26-2005, 02:10 AM
home made exhaust, few leaks, but working on sealing them. Another thing i recently did was remove the rear seat. That seat is heavier than i thought.
for what ever reason it wont post the pic, it messes up the img, i guess. heres the link. :doh:
Turbo is the best ya to go when looking at forced induction,no h/p lose to belt driven superchargers, not for me.
Ive been looking around at a tein suspension system, havent looked heavly into it yet, hope they make a suspension system for the xB. I was looking a stiffer suspension, with a small lift to the car rather than drop, not sure yet, a small drop will increase the handling.
The light, all wired up, the farthest passange light is busted, rock hit it. got to replace it. $5 for the entire light assemb. aint bad. I even have 2 lights on the top of the xB in the rear, they work great, wired them in today.
I originally just took the muffler off, but the heat melted the carpet and the foam box in the back, now a fire extigusher is under the drivers seat. My dad and I made the new exhauxt from exhaust flex pipe, and a few pieces of straight exhaust pipe, making the flange to mate to the original end on the exhaust was fun. a few hangers. Sounds great, and turns alot of heads. As you said, no need to be pretty, cause you hear the rocks hitting it on the gravel roads all the time.
So you shift through the gears manually to on your auto, I do the same. I dont race alot though, most cars in my area are far faster, but the xB passes them in the turns. Ive gone up on a V8 jeep, he stomped me, but on 2 90 degree turns, i took at 40 mph, i stomped him there, and took the finish lead to the stop light. I have lots of fun with a auto, but it would suck to have a standard, i drive to and from houston every day, and it would get old after a bit. Ill post a pic of the exhaust after a bit.
I only manually shift on tracks or just occasional weekend fun. Normally i just leave in drive and take it easy. I wouldn't raise the xb if i were you, although i can see why you would because of all the rocks hurting the paint. The best thing to do is drop about an inch. It will be enough to keep you steady yet not enough to cause damange when on dirt roads. If you went lower, nish designs i believe still has skid plates to protect lowered cars from curbs..plus they look cool. front, rear side and rear bumper ones. Check into it, you might be interested in buying them or recreating something along the lines of that if you are really good with those types of things.
But raising the xb you will definitely lose the tight cornering. And it will handle pretty bad on the rally tracks. IMO
Cya
rallying_the_scion
10-26-2005, 02:26 AM
I think ill go with lowering it a inch, you seem to know what your talkin about. Ive allready looked into making a skid plate for the from out of a somthing like expanded metal, only better looking. I think i can tackle it, since i built the exhaust and the brushguard, and tail light guards. We'll see over time.
Also, let me know if you need any help with the suspension choices or anything with it. I'd like to see some scion rallys!!!
We should have a giant meet for scion owners close to the desert. Track for half the day, then rally for the other half.. I'm too low to the ground to do it, but id definitely like to pair up with some people and vid it.
Cya
rallying_the_scion
10-26-2005, 02:31 AM
i got it to work, to make the pic pop up, when i copied it over, the link to the website missed a few symbols in the center some how, but the exhaust pic is posted now.
killerxromances
10-26-2005, 02:33 AM
Wow, that appears to be some small piping! Haha, doesn't look too bad for doing it yourself. I've seen some people get too creative and really do some dumb things.. lol
Cya
Yellow_Sub
10-26-2005, 03:24 AM
Major props bro!!! :bow: :bow: :bow: can't wait to see the pics of that thing airborn though!!
RedneckwithanxB
10-26-2005, 04:05 AM
well i guess that i need to get working on my skid platers too, i have a Sh&$ load of diamond plate at home, but i must say, the skid plate on the front of my brush guard helps alot when im playin off road...if you want i have a short, soundless video that was shot at night on a horrible camera...check for a post of mine labeled "ground clearence not an issue" or something like that
i would post a link, but im goin to bed
killerxromances
10-26-2005, 04:11 AM
Major props bro!!! :bow: :bow: :bow: can't wait to see the pics of that thing airborn though!!
If he wants to get it airborne, he needs to do some more work for that one.. lol
Cya
ohcanada_00
10-26-2005, 03:37 PM
You are my new personal inspration. I was just about to post up for pictures of people who have done a brush guard as I'm looking to do something similar of my own.....
You rock
rallyxb
10-27-2005, 02:22 AM
thought Id share a few pics of my xB going rally. A few extrior mods, looks pretty good after lots of metal working.
http://my.prostreetonline.com/album/Tribal%20scion%20xB/main.jpg
Fantastic!!!
This is the same kind of stuff I have been trying to build for my Rally xB.
So far I only have the skid plates in place.
How did you attach the brush guard / light bar to the bumper?
BTW: Awesome pics.
rallyxb
10-27-2005, 03:44 PM
You are my new personal inspration. I was just about to post up for pictures of people who have done a brush guard as I'm looking to do something similar of my own.....
You rock
Same here... you Rock!
Any design ideas or hints on how to make the brush guard?
RedneckwithanxB
10-27-2005, 11:37 PM
find one for a 85-88? toyo compact truck and extend the tabs that you can mount a whinch too through thr middil grille to the bumper support, and wa la, instant brush guard, i have lights on it now, but hey, it works
My brushguard goes under the upper grill, and attaches to the 2 bolts, those bolts are used to hold the bumper in place. Ill take some pics marrow and post them for ya. For hints, well, it was alot of work, but worth it, just bend, cut and weld, lol.
Oh ya, and thanks for all the compliments!!!!!
snuppy
10-28-2005, 12:29 AM
simply awesome... :clap:
still in awe of that first pic... probably the coolest most original thing i've seen on SL in a LONG time...
it's good to know the lil box can take that kind of abuse and come back for more!... keep us posted with all your rallying exploits... :bow:
rallyxb
10-28-2005, 03:30 AM
find one for a 85-88? toyo compact truck and extend the tabs that you can mount a whinch too through thr middil grille to the bumper support, and wa la, instant brush guard, i have lights on it now, but hey, it works
Looks sweet! Thanks for the great tip! Love the skid plate.
:D
RedneckwithanxB
10-28-2005, 03:44 AM
i dont know if you can tell but i beat my front lip all to hell, works wonders
rallying_the_scion
10-29-2005, 01:30 AM
RedneckwithanxB I like your brushguard, looks alot prettier than mine, i didnt really clean up the weld. I wanted to know, do your eyelids block any of the light projection, i want to att them to my xB, but worried about the light projection going down, not that i dont have enough light to make up for it, lol.
I posted some pics on my site, heres the link, they show how the guard is mounted, if you wan measuments, or shomthing, let me know.
I thought of buildin a few more and selling them for about $150-$200 a piece. I just grad from Universal Technical Institute, so now i got time, just need to get a welder back online.
Thanks for the comments ya'll, im going to try hard to get airborn pics this weekend, depends on the traffic on the road.
RedneckwithanxB
10-29-2005, 05:03 PM
the eyelids block a little light, but most is projected out, plus them being white helps..
but i have super white Nokya bulbs, a hell of a lot better than the stockers, really worth the $20 on ebay
xBabe
10-30-2005, 12:18 AM
lol i saw your car during the hurricane rita evacuation!! lol i couldnt keep my eyes on the road cuz i was staring at your box
Complication
10-30-2005, 03:59 AM
i couldnt keep my eyes on the road cuz i was staring at your box
yaknow I wish more women said that about me.... :roll:
rallying_the_scion
10-30-2005, 05:05 AM
RedneckwithanxB, thanks for the info, where did you get the material for them? I want to add them to my xB, either with the Dark Cherry, white, or Carbon fiber, and add maybe aluminum behind it, leaving the outter edges of the tape sticky, should reflect the blocked light back into the head light and still be effective.
xBabe
LOL, ya saw my xB huh, where were you leaveing from, i saw a few xBs along the way, where at? We went to Marshall, left to go back to Orange saturday night. Might see ya around again?
Dont worry Complication, your not the only one, but with the g/f i got now, other women looking at me will get ugly, but i wouldnt change it.
RedneckwithanxB
10-30-2005, 05:45 AM
a friend got them for me from some guy know as randode.......hint.
but yeah you should really do some skid plates, and come to florida and we can go out and play
rallying_the_scion
10-31-2005, 03:53 AM
Im trying to fugure out how to make a skid plate, but no idea has came to me yet. I have a sheet of steel in the back yard, and some stainless steel. Anyways, if im ever over in flordia again, ill give ya a hollar, always up for playing around with outher scions, specially in the mud. The xB is covered in mud right now.
killerxromances
10-31-2005, 03:59 AM
Im trying to fugure out how to make a skid plate, but no idea has came to me yet. I have a sheet of steel in the back yard, and some stainless steel. Anyways, if im ever over in flordia again, ill give ya a hollar, always up for playing around with outher scions, specially in the mud. The xB is covered in mud right now.
Wash her!!! Thats the only reason why i can't rally right now, i have to keep her clean. heh
As for the skid plates. 1. Look underneath the front bumper, you will notice that theres 6-8 screws holding that black plastic piece that helps keep dirt and stuff off the motor. Thats where the skid plates should be installed. 2. As for cutting, cut them to match the body lines and body flow of the lip and bumper. But as far as how much they stick out, thats up to you. 1''-1 1/2'' sticking out looks pretty sick.
Good luck!
Cya
rallying_the_scion
10-31-2005, 02:08 PM
WASH HER!!! AAAAHHHHH :rofl:
Your funny, thought you was serious for a minute. We just got finished with a little mudding :bow: , first day off from school, im having fun. Cleaned the interior though, no school, no need for the backpack and school papers and what not. Heres a pic of what your missing.http://my.prostreetonline.com/album/Tribal%20scion%20xB/muddy.jpg
rallying_the_scion
11-02-2005, 04:25 AM
Ive got the skid plate made. The mounts are going to be cut marrow afternoon. The xB gets a new windshield marrow too, the stock windshield is a POS. The skid plate is made of some pretty heavy stainless steel, its pretty ruff looking. Couple slits cut for air, ill post pics when my neighbor gives me my memory stick back.
killerxromances
11-02-2005, 05:15 AM
Cant wait to see it man!
Cya
rallying_the_scion
11-03-2005, 06:03 PM
skidplate finally mounted. I went and cut the metal myself to get it done faster. Here it is, not the prettiest, but hey, its gonna get bashed alot.
geeze what with this, peaople give me crap for drifting in my xB but u beat the hell outa urs and get "dude thats awesome" wtf!!! nice pics btw
rallyxb
11-06-2005, 03:16 AM
Here's some pics of my Rally xB, with front skid-plate...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/rallyxb/IMG_1280b.jpg
Home made skid-plates underneath...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/rallyxb/Oct28347.jpg
And metal screen installed behind the grill (to protect radiator from rocks) with a view of the repositioned OEM air intake to create a ram-air intake...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/rallyxb/IMG_0023.jpg
Love my xB 8)
rallying_the_scion
11-06-2005, 06:58 PM
sweet skid plate, mines not so much good looking at yours. I know mine works though, had to try it out. when i pull up to a curb, i can drive the xb on the the skid plate and lift the front of the car off the ground.
I did the same ram-air idea as you did, only mine is located at the fog light area, my fog light covers are off my car. nice work!!!
rallying_the_scion
11-06-2005, 07:00 PM
oh!! and where did you get the plastic covers ove your windows?? ive been wanting to get a set of those so my windows can be crack while its raining.
killerxromances
11-07-2005, 02:17 AM
oh!! and where did you get the plastic covers ove your windows?? ive been wanting to get a set of those so my windows can be crack while its raining.
Check the forums. Tons of topics about the visors. JDM and VIP all over the place!
Also, looks good man.. Hows the roll cage search going?
Cya
rallying_the_scion
11-07-2005, 03:40 AM
Thanks, ill have to check around, ive thought of moding some off a SUV to fit the xB.
AHHH CRAP, I see another challenge youve thrown at me. Well.... When i get some more money, currently looking for a job to, ill buy the tubing and build a mock up roll cage, my g/f wont be thrilled, she gets the car when i leave for the USAF, but heck, its my car right now!!!! ILL DO IT!!!!
loginskinner
11-07-2005, 03:54 AM
haha and i thought i was the only one who would ever even think of showing up to the Lakeland FL mud hole in an xB!
rallying_the_scion
11-07-2005, 04:12 AM
Nope, not at all, it would blow peoples mind, somthing i love doing.
Heres a site with a pic of a roll cage in a xB, not the best pic, but works.
http://www.highonscion.com/products.htm
RedneckwithanxB
11-07-2005, 04:22 AM
my brushguard is now on an xb in tampa, so im gonna make myself one, and yeah, i need to break down and do some skidplates
rallyxb
11-07-2005, 08:04 PM
sweet skid plate, mines not so much good looking at yours. I know mine works though, had to try it out. when i pull up to a curb, i can drive the xb on the the skid plate and lift the front of the car off the ground.
I did the same ram-air idea as you did, only mine is located at the fog light area, my fog light covers are off my car. nice work!!!
Thanks! I am also very impressed (and inspired) by your awesome work on your rally ready xB, but have a few questions about the skid plate…
It's able to support the weight of the front of the xB?! That's fantastic!
What did you make your skid plate out of?
Mine is built from industrial grade 2/8" thick, hardened, diamond tread aluminum.
Can you please tell me where you mounted the front skid plate?
I have looked for a suitable mounting location, but there is only 2 bolt holes under the radiator support and the plastic mounting straps behind the front ground effects and a plastic splash shield that surrounds the lower engine area. Do you have any photos of how it is built and attached?
rallyxb
11-07-2005, 08:12 PM
oh!! and where did you get the plastic covers ove your windows?? ive been wanting to get a set of those so my windows can be crack while its raining.
They are "wade" brand in-channel window vents. I also have the Wade OEM style bolt-on bug shield. Both are very good products and are not effected by wind, vibration, high-speed, or the car-wash. I've had the window vents for over a year and they work great!
rallyxb
11-07-2005, 08:25 PM
. . . Heres a site with a pic of a roll cage in a xB, not the best pic, but works. http://www.highonscion.com/products.htm
Here's another pic of Glen's xB with the roll-cage.
I like the fact that it's attached to the rear shock tower mounts...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/rallyxb/Glenns_XB_02.jpg
rallying_the_scion
11-08-2005, 02:49 PM
DANG, youve done your research ,lol.
My skid plate is made of 1/16 stainless steel, VERY HARD to work with. I attached mine to the 2 bolts holding the platic straps to the ground effects. I also, sounds bad, but works great, attached it to the tranny. ill take some pics later today and post them or email them to you. i can slowly drive the xB on the the plate, but driving force, well, the plate has been knocked back a bit, ive smacked it hard several times, hasnt moved much anymore.
Thanks for the info on the window vents. It looked like u had a bug guard, but couldnt tell for sure.
Where did you get the other pic of the roll cage, i would like to get more if i could. The one i build should be similar to it. I just got a job at a local auto shop, so now ill have some income to buy the tubing for a static roll cage, nothing serious.
Ill send you a email about the pics.
rallyxb
11-08-2005, 08:23 PM
DANG, youve done your research ,lol. . . .
My skid plate is made of 1/16 stainless steel, VERY HARD to work with. I attached mine to the 2 bolts holding the platic straps to the ground effects. . . . Where did you get the other pic of the roll cage, i would like to get more if i could. . .
Thanks. I have been modifying vehicles ever since my first car. The metal, purchased from a local industrial metal supply distributor, is hardened diamond tread aluminum and is easy to work with. It can be cut with a saws-all, but is strong enough to support a lot of weight. The hardened aluminum doesn’t bend, it flexes to the point of breaking, then shears off in chunks. It's very solid and does not have a tinny sound.
My real world tests have proven it to support the front weight of my old Subaru (about 1000 lbs) and to survive an impact with small log in the road at 45 Mph.
To date I have made "Rally" version of my cars as:
SubaDoo : My rally-ready 92 Subaru Loyale
Complete with- 2 tone paint job, push bar, fog lights, rock slider bars, and skid plates...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/rallyxb/SubaDoo1b.jpg
All-Road Quest : My 96 off-road Nissan minivan
Complete with- bug shield, painted bumpers, push bar, fog lights, sub frame connectors, uniframe braces, a-arm rock deflectors, and skid plates...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/rallyxb/Quest1.jpg
Now it's time for the xB!
8)
As for the roll-cage, it is from Glen Maurer's xB.
His web-site is here...
http://www.highonscion.com
rallying_the_scion
11-08-2005, 10:43 PM
nice Loyale , i like it, looks rally ready for sure.
Ive impacted into a ditch at about 25-30 MPH, still holding on the car somehow, lol.
I took the pics and about to eamil them, if you want a certain angle just ask, and ill try my best to that angle.
rallyxb
11-09-2005, 03:02 AM
nice Loyale , i like it, looks rally ready for sure. . .
Ive impacted into a ditch at about 25-30 MPH, still holding on the car somehow, lol. . ..
I have to take betters pics of my skid plates, but have some good ideas that I will e-mail you tomorrow. PS: Just added the pic (above) of the All-Road Quest.
*grin*
rallyxb
11-10-2005, 02:58 AM
I wonder where we can get these shorter front ground effects like this Russian bB?
It looks like a more flexible plastic to help it plow through the snow.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/rallyxb/bB_Russia_015.jpg
killerxromances
11-10-2005, 03:35 AM
I'd like to see a lip kit version of that to come out. ^ ^ That looks pretty sick.
Cya
rallying_the_scion
11-11-2005, 02:48 AM
Id like to see that entire front kit, id buy.
Rallyxb, NICE, never thought of a rally minivan, truly creative, i like!!
rallyxb
11-11-2005, 05:04 PM
Id like to see that entire front kit, id buy.
Rallyxb, NICE, never thought of a rally minivan, truly creative, i like!!
Thanks. My "SUV minivan" blew a lot minds with the engineers at work and especially at hunting camp.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/rallyxb/Quest2.jpg
It was really funny to see how easily it kept up with the bulky, cumbersome 4WD vehicles on all the back roads. It's amazing what kind of traction (and awesome drifting) you can get from a minivan with good set of snow tires on dirt and gravel roads.
It was a lot of fun.
8)
sunglint
01-11-2006, 04:10 AM
THAT IS SWEET! :clap:
First post, only had my xb about a month, and when I talk about lifting and the like I get the weirdest stares from the dealer. This is SO what I want to go towards - just tonight on the way home I was stuck in traffic in the medical center when an ambulance comes up behind - crawling through idiots who just sit there - I pulled up on the median, duh, someone might be dieing... rallydude, I'd really like to see this in person, I'm real interested in no skirts and the like, my last car (saturn station wagon) got great mileage (29+ till the day it was totalled, forcing this purchase) but was so low to the ground it scraped some speedbumps. Super work, bBs can be tough too!
looks like the xB from monster garages "robot boxing" thing... they had a xB vs xA
Biznox
01-11-2006, 11:40 PM
thought Id share a few pics of my xB going rally. A few extrior mods, looks pretty good after lots of metal working.
http://my.prostreetonline.com/album/Tribal%20scion%20xB/main.jpg
You are funny. :rofl:
Not feeling the brush bar or seeing the point of it and all the lights, but I'll give you an A+ for creativity. Go you! :clap:
Biznox
01-11-2006, 11:48 PM
[quote=rallying_the_scion]
Thanks. I have been modifying vehicles ever since my first car. The metal, purchased from a local industrial metal supply distributor, is hardened diamond tread aluminum and is easy to work with. It can be cut with a saws-all, but is strong enough to support a lot of weight. The hardened aluminum doesn’t bend, it flexes to the point of breaking, then shears off in chunks. It's very solid and does not have a tinny sound.
My real world tests have proven it to support the front weight of my old Subaru (about 1000 lbs) and to survive an impact with small log in the road at 45 Mph.
Do you have something against vehicles that are already built for this purpose and have AWD and will do a much better job of off-roading and rough roading than a street car with some silly mods?
Just curious because you know you are destroying the resale value of your cars. It takes more than a skidplate and a brushbar to make something off-road/rough road ready. The rest of the car, suspension etc are not built to withstand the abuse and without AWD it's kind of useless.
You strike me as a guy in desperate need of a Subaru. :rofl:
Drop all those silly projects and just get yourself a nice Forester. It will do 10x better as a "rally car" than anything you can cobble together out of a Japanese city car because Subaru knows rally racing and they engineer their cars for that from the ground up. You'll get a full warranty and the piece of mind of knowing you can take rough roads at 45 mph bouncing over mudholes and your car will not get stuck and it won't fall apart after 2 years. Any xB subjected to the kind of use a Forester is DESIGNED for will be ready for the scraphead in a couple of years. No amount of tacked on skidplates and foglight laden brushbars will change that.
cherryBox
01-12-2006, 12:09 AM
The rest of the car, suspension etc are not built to withstand the abuse and without AWD it's kind of useless.
thats one of the pimpist posts ive ever seen in my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bow:
CLEANTC
01-12-2006, 06:23 PM
ralley one= pimp
lifted one=lame
CLEANTC
01-12-2006, 06:25 PM
BUT... if you really do want to continue to ralley,, get a subaru..
RudyT
01-12-2006, 06:52 PM
you guys...that's NOTHIN.
http://www.precisionmuffler.com/46ae0680.png
:rofl:
What the heck is mounted to the top of that "thing"? Love the sweet rims too. :rofl:
cherryBox
01-12-2006, 07:20 PM
What the heck is mounted to the top of that "thing"? Love the sweet rims too. :rofl:
oh, that's just the roof rack for mounting the winch, the jack, shovels, gas cans and spare tires. you know, all that stuff you need to dig your 2wd car out of a mud puddle.
p2filz
01-12-2006, 07:30 PM
likesaid beforethe first pic is the best... damn thats sweet i have a 93 toyota pickup i feel like takin it out to do that type of thing hmmm better go out lookin at some desserted places here in cali.... damn the pioneer xb is pimpin wish i could get mine like that... how badly would the mileage suffer?
RTon20s
01-12-2006, 08:34 PM
I would take the cobbled together Pioneer xB over the "Rally xB" any day. I looked at the links form the o.p. and man does that work look like crap. You have done absolutely nothing to the xB that makes it any more "off road" worthy. A couple of skid plates and a half-@55ed brush guard won't save your suspension in chassis.
At least the box from Pioneer has a complete Bronco chassis underneath and a 289 under the hood to move it. I have no doubt, if the owner ever decides to get the thing finished the right way, it will be one sweet machine. But even in the condition it is currently in it completely dominates the "Rally xB."
Biznox
01-13-2006, 04:21 AM
If you want to rally at all, get a Subaru.
But, if you want to drive a 2WD city car fast down smooth gravel roads with lights strapped all over your hood and pretend you're Collin McRae, then by all means go right ahead. :rofl:
rallying_the_scion
05-14-2006, 08:53 PM
well, im back after a basic training for the USAF and some tech school. Ill test the little car out when it has to make a drive from southeast texas to anchorage alaska
OC_ScionBox
05-14-2006, 09:01 PM
i like that rally scion cuz its different from all the over rally cars u see
out there
tCscotty
05-15-2006, 12:01 AM
It is not a reqirement to have a subaru to rally. Not all rally cars are awd. Rally driving is about driver skill not about what car they drive. You shouldn't flame someone for doing something different with their box. I think its great. Looks like fun. I've always been a fan of rally driving. Nice pics btw.
rallying_the_scion
05-15-2006, 05:57 AM
thanks for the support guy!
Nozerider
05-15-2006, 05:58 AM
Why?
rallying_the_scion
05-15-2006, 06:30 AM
why not?
05-15-2006, 09:20 PM
you guys...that's NOTHIN.
http://www.precisionmuffler.com/46ae0680.png
:rofl:
I remember when I saw this thing in person, trust me, This thing is ready to kill!! :P
rallying_the_scion
07-18-2006, 05:23 AM
the xb got a new brush guard today, 4 new chrome 100w lights, much better looking, pics lata
Sweet christ I want that lip.
If anybody can find me that lip kit, I will do ANYTHING for you... even kill a man.
Or two.
buildheracakee
07-18-2006, 05:56 PM
BADASS.
i never even thought of rallying the box...
ive always been into rally. kinda sad i didnt get a subaru..but what can you do?
well..i was in a service crew for Joanna Balsamo at Rim of the World Rally in lancaster. I met a whole lot of awesome people.
and that "you need a subaru to rally" requirement is dumb. People rally 2wd ALL the time, competitively..they have 2 classes for competition Group 2 (lower hp cars limited to a certain displacement) and Group 5 (unlimitied crazy cars).
Best 2wd driver i met...Matt Johnston http://www.mattjohnstonrally.com/
Drives an EG Civic hatch..and wins. Impressed people so high up he was offered a Junior WRC ride..
Archngl
07-18-2006, 06:10 PM
weird... he lives in grand rapids MI? How do I not know him,?
buildheracakee
07-18-2006, 06:17 PM
he should be around! hes a really chill guy. the top people were kind of snobby when i met them (Travis Pastrana, KEN BLOCK, george plsek) but Leon Stiles and Matt Johnston were really friendly. Matts just your normal 23 year old dude.. very cool.
rallying_the_scion
07-19-2006, 09:56 PM
the new brush guard, pics later with the trailor on the xb.http://my.prostreetonline.com/album/Tribal%20scion%20xB/newfe.JPG
and the oldhttp://my.prostreetonline.com/album/Tribal%20scion%20xB/4light.JPG
boombox069
07-20-2006, 01:11 AM
hey rallying_the_scion, must agree with most of them, never thought of this box being a offroad vehicle....but i must say loven it.....looks great, really!!! :bow: :bow: :bow:
another question and comment- i love ur front rally bar with the lights....do ever think of maken a few more maybe for some of us who would pay for ur time i know i am surely down to throw u some money to get a custom one made and shipped down here..........make urself a "signature series'' i would definitly tell who ever asked where i got it......i love the way it looks..and wow the new one looks great, i gotta have one!! :) send me a message maybe we can work something out......................get my self a custom one hehehe :pray: :pray:
rallying_the_scion
07-20-2006, 06:34 AM
ive actually thought of doin that, but i didnt think anyone would want to buy any, ill look into it if a few more people are interested. oh, thanks for the comment to.
ffejeroni
07-20-2006, 01:03 PM
<--- INTERESTED!!!
Really, I have just two lights I want to mount. Hella Rallye 4009's. If I don't want to go through with this does anyone want to buy them?
boomster
07-20-2006, 01:06 PM
You guys are crazy! :rofl: :bow:
rallying_the_scion
07-20-2006, 06:52 PM
well, the older brush guard seems sold, sweet. I go another interested, ill pm you. Heres pics of the trailor I built for the xB, and it pulls like its not back there. Love it. here she is.
Dude! Love the pics and the whole idea of rallying with the xB is awesome! Just ignore the haters and do what you like. btw.. that pic you have on the other site of you car the night before Hurricane Rita is just amazing. That deserves a spot in a magazine. Mad props. Oh yeah, when / if I get my xB, I may be interested in one of those brush guards too just to be unique around here.
Sweet christ I want that lip.
If anybody can find me that lip kit, I will do ANYTHING for you... even kill a man.
Or two.
Maybe that's what the front looks like if you tear the lip off.
rallying_the_scion
07-22-2006, 07:06 AM
Generik420,
Thx for the comments on the xB, and the pic. When/ if, hopfully you will get a xB, shoot me a PM or email, and well, get to work. Talk at ya lata.
RedneckwithanxB
07-23-2006, 09:25 PM
dude i love that trailer.... i kknow a guy who might be interested iin one since his business is out of the back of the car... would you mind posting some pics of the hitch
rallying_the_scion
07-24-2006, 12:26 AM
actually, you can buy the hitch from a company, curts , my dad said that was the name of the company, but ill get some pics of it, never know, ya can build it cheaper than buying??? and thanks for the comment!!
rallying_the_scion
07-24-2006, 12:34 AM
you can go to www.etrailer.com for the hitch. The traior its self is a kit from harbor freight, its all there, the wireing, tires, lights for it all. The boxs are aluminum boxs for the bed of a truck. If you want more info, shoot, ill tell you what i know, built the trailor in my garage. fully loaded, about 800 lbs on the car, i get 31MPG believe it or not, i run at 68MPH, 2800RPMs.
RedneckwithanxB
07-24-2006, 07:06 AM
cool thanks
rallying_the_scion
09-16-2006, 07:52 PM
well, the new brushguard is allready off the xB, the xBs getting new toys soon, and the brush guard dosnt fit the car anymore, SO, if anyone out there has a want for a brush guard, i have two, ones in texas, the otehr alaska, i have more details if anyone interested, easy to install, very easy, ust let me know if your intereested in making your xB very differ.
firesquare
09-16-2006, 10:38 PM
best looking rally xB (maybe the only one too)
i wanted to doo all this stuff to my ZX3 focus too!
rally lights steel wheels and good ol dirty fun. i jumped it a few times. it was awesome. you havent lived untill you jumped a car!
rallying_the_scion
09-16-2006, 10:42 PM
its true!! nothing like the feeling that all 4 tires arnt touching the ground, and your doin 70MPH at the same time, the last time i rallied the xB i ended up with a blown tire jus befroe my trip to alaska, made things kinda ugly trying to find a trie to match the rest, but made it!!
Max
09-16-2006, 10:50 PM
its true!! nothing like the feeling that all 4 tires arnt touching the ground, and your doin 70MPH at the same time
Here's a dumb question...
When you get airborne and you are on the gas, does the engine rev up high real quick?
rallying_the_scion
09-16-2006, 11:01 PM
i actually took my foot off the gas habit, but if your foot is to the ground, i think the traction control will try to take over, all 4 tires have seemed to broke loose, so ya. sorry i cant give a straight answer on that.
highhobbiescom
09-16-2006, 11:09 PM
nice xb, i love seeing a car getting the absolute crap beat outta her.
rallying_the_scion
09-16-2006, 11:14 PM
lol, i went to the auto hobby shop today to change my oil and rotate the tires, while i was under her, that car that is, since it was on a lift, i checked the underside ot it. All the underside was still good, all the rubber was good, no signs of dry root or worn out, this xB has 83000 miles on it, its a 05, still runnin like a charm!!!
bBlover
09-17-2006, 09:27 PM
Nice!!
rallying_the_scion
09-23-2006, 05:03 AM
The Rally scions got a new look goin, not so Rally anymore, at all. But hey, it changes alot anyways. since we got up here, its gotten a new JDM axle back exhaust and headlights.
Hey! What are those headlights? Are they the Chrome Sonars or the crap three LED ones? I am thinking Sonars and they look good!
Oh and hey, I think you are missing some grilles and fogs.
rallying_the_scion
09-23-2006, 05:30 AM
Its the chrome sonars, i stayed away from the LED ones.
I took the covers off for better flow into the engine compartment and the grill are gone, gonna replace them soon.
OldYeller
09-23-2006, 05:33 AM
I would have thought you would have needed all that front end hardware more up there in AK.
rallying_the_scion
09-23-2006, 05:37 AM
lol, there was moisture in 2 of those lights, i was worried about that, and ice build up on the bar might add weight and cause damage, so i decided, it had to go, besides, i plan on a body kit.
Shell return the the Rally state one last time on her posible last treck on the Alcan highway this summer back to texas. From there on teh brush guard will be permantly removed...sold or sit to rot.....This summer may be her last summer in my hand as i try for a new tC....Rally tC.... which will be a muc cleaner set up of performance on the street rather than the back roads.