Has any one thought of spliting the rear hatch in two so that the top glass lifts upward and the bottom folds down like a tail gate?

yes!

At the very minimum, I've thought it would be nice to have the glass lift. Do you have any ideas as to where to start?

Ive thought about it too...like a Blazer!

It was just a thought ,but i thinkit wouldn't be to impossible to try. My thought was to cut a stock door right below the glass and then reinforce the insides.

ive thought about it, and i have removed parts off my Chevy s-10 blazer...no lie...and used them to get an idea as to what i could do, im calling it not probabal at this moment, because i dont have another hatch to cut up yet

So you think it wouldn't take much to make it happen? I think you just need the bottom hinges and some kind of latch assembly to got things going.

Do it...do it...do it.....This will be an interesting mod.

Let's see.
Remove hatch.
Cut hatch in half and reinforce it while keeping its shape.
Build door overlap flange between upper and lower half.
Build new hinges into the bottom of the hatch and body.
Build new limit straps for the lower half.
Build latches for the sides of the lower hatch.
Build operating lever for lower hatch.
Build a latch for the new bottom of the top hatch.
Build new seal and seal holder for joint between upper and lower halves.
Get everything aligned.
Disassemble and paint.
Reassemble and realign.

Simple, no? :)

Hey some people see the glass half fulland then theres the other people. I think it's half done ,you got the door. Just adapt some already existing equipment to make it work.

Not saying you can't do it. It just won't be done in a half-hour like on Monster Garage. Making it work will take some time. Making it work well and seal properly will take even more time.

hell i designed everything, did a photo shop, re designed, and still, im friggin clueless...i would love to do it, and even a way to get the door to open you could use the factory release, just move it to the top of the bottom panel...this way the top glass releases and goes up, the bottom swings down

but why do it on a vehicle that is this low, i could understand on a factory suspension box, but i have teins, big difference

Sounds like a good mod. Do it Do it Do it!!

INteresting mod,

Japan has the opendeck Bb model. Wonder if it's possible to get the neccesary parts from japan, since it's OEM to make this modification possible :ponder:

http://photobucket.com/albums/b104/Guamsilverbox671/th_bboutback.jpg

The rear bumper might need some modification too. :wink:

i think this has already been asked a few times..def a cool mod to try, my honda element has a slipt rear, its nice casue you can use it as extra seating, def be a cool look on the xB

On the OD, the entire chassis/body back of the "B" pillar is different. Just strengthening the lower chassis to handle the lower portion hinges is more than "simple."

(Monster Garage stuff doesn't have to last for 100,000 miles in real use...A lot of their stuff also just looks good from one angle, and that only until it breaks from normal use.)

if someone comes across another rear hatch i would love to go in on this project with them...

sounds kool....

Do it!

how 'bout just have the window go up and down just like a 4runner and get the hardware from a 4runner

that would be awesome to do, but, if you ride around with the window down or out, all the exaust gasses come righth inside the car...

That would be nice to have, at the least just to get stuff out of the back without having to open up the whole door.

It would be nice if just the rear window was automatic and you could just roll it up or down. Probably alot easier than splitting the hatch to.

i think it'd be a waste. but ketting the rear window to hinge up wouldnt be too hard. alot easier than the roll down 4runner style alot of other people want.

(Monster Garage stuff doesn't have to last for 100,000 miles in real use...A lot of their stuff also just looks good from one angle, and that only until it breaks from normal use.)

That's for sure. same with that Pimp My Ride stuff. Picture rusted out rockers repaired by stuffing the hole behind with newspaper and then applying a thick layer of Bondo, then sanding and painting. That's what they did with a VW bus that was later sold to a member of the VW bus list. Large chunks of nicely painted bondo had already fallen off and the bus had only been driven a couple of thousand miles.

George

I think I've seen a bB made to look like a milk truck. It had a split rear door setup...anyone remember that?

Howsabout doing some mods that are worth while first. Shave the doors, shave the hatch. Suicide doors. Any if em' are awesome, and a good place to start for those who have not done major vehicle modification. This aint no bolt on body kit.

That being said please spare the comments about how mods being worth while is a matter of opinion, or how you are the best modifier in the tri-county area. That's all good, and I understand, just putting that out there. Thanks for listening.

I don't even own an xb but before I get mine im planning my mods in my head. What I wanted to try and do at the shop one weekend was to try and install the 4runner automatic motors in the rear hatch so the glass would slide up and down, that would be tight to show the system off :-D. Anyone like this idea?

there is no way a 4 runner setup will work
the rear glass is surface mounted........ it does not have a channel. let alone it's too wide to be able to go down. the glass is as wide as the outermost edges of the hatch........the glass would need to be 4 or 5 inshes narrower and it wouldnt be able to slide down all the way only about half way. the glass will still be poking up. go look at an xb and open up the hatch it's pretty much impossible using a stock or even modified hatch. if you really want to do it you will need a completely redesigned hatch and custom cut glass.

if you got the funds nothing is impossible..by the way the 4runner set up was mentioned 5-7 post up

i know it was mentioned which is why i posted about it. it'd cost over 3 or 4 grand is my educated guess. but hey if you wanna throw your money away go ahead. u will have a very unique alltho costly mod.

This mod is officially Wesy Coast Customs rediculous. Bing!

indeed. lol

not really, west coast customs is just straight ricey. 4runner windows is more subtle if done to where it looks oem, nobody will ever know it's there 'till you roll it down. how bout doing it to cf hatch(not a fan, but can always be painted) with just a regular window motor? and mike, dude come on, west coast customs? i saw your hardbody nissan with blue camo paintjob with a ball hinge and what looks like escalade wheels now that's either country or wcc style

dude. it is no where near feasible with any hatch designed for an xb.

i think it's called "MODIFICATION" for a reason. like you said it'll cost a grip but never say it's not feasible...i personally don't have the funds to do this but for the sake of arguement i'll say keep the hatch, create a slot for glass to slide in(move it in about .5") and order a custom fit glass

what you guys dont understand is that you dont really need funds for anything but another hatch and glass incase you f up....all you need is the will power, i have it, im just stumped as how to do it, that is all you need...

oh and the roll down rear window would be awesome for at shows, but on the streets it is a horrible idea because all the fumes from the exaust come right inside the car when your driving, i know from experience, once broke my rear window, then had to take it to a place to get a new one installed, i didnt even want to drive it after the glass was installed dbecause you could still smell it, it was horrible

not really, west coast customs is just straight ricey. 4runner windows is more subtle if done to where it looks oem, nobody will ever know it's there 'till you roll it down. how bout doing it to cf hatch(not a fan, but can always be painted) with just a regular window motor? and mike, dude come on, west coast customs? i saw your hardbody nissan with blue camo paintjob with a ball hinge and what looks like escalade wheels now that's either country or wcc style

All right juinor, I'm gonna break this down for ya real quick. Don't talk about my truck, cause a chances are you have no grounds to talk "Captain bolt-on". That being said go attack someone else. And I'm from Nor Cal, got it pal?!

Although you are not someone who I need to explain myself to, by West Coast Customs, I meant wild, and intense amounts of work for a "different" mod. And the pic you saw is photoshop. Now what is a ball hing?! The blue camo got mad props by tons of mini truckers (but you would'nt know nuthin' bout all that). And finally because you are so ignorant you would'nt know how difficult it is to find rims that tuck on a bagged truck. :come: :loser:

http://scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=89771

The irony.

First off, I'm not replying to defend anybody. I'm just gonna point out that your condescending attitude isn't helping the community in any shape or form. So before you get off calling me out for trying to be a wannabe mod, or backing someone up I've never even met, slow down. I'm just here to deflate that ego of yours, and go back to enjoying the boards.

I'm not even gonna speak on your bolt on sig, and your captain bolt on comment. I'll let that link do all the talking.

What I really wanted was to make sure you knew that the nonsense you've been posting lacks any credibility whatsoever. You've got the nerve to talk down people who use bolt on parts(which is MOST of this board), yet you want to buy a spoiler that attaches with double sided tape. :tap: Someone calls you out on a "photoshop"of yours that boasts of your hypocrisy, and you mark it off as highly acclaimed by "tasteful" critics. :blah: On top of that you go and clown on people for wanting to have a subtle window mod, saying it's on some WCC crack, while you yourself proudly post your camouflage nissan, or whatever it is, as if it's some underrated work of art. :loser:

If you want to chime in and give some constructive criticism, sure go on. Though It's not a bright idea to be telling people how they should live their lives, because that's not even close to criticism. Trust me, you sound like a Jehova's witness. I think I speak for all of us, when we suggest you quit worrying about how the next person lives his or her life, and most of all grow up.

i think it's called "MODIFICATION" for a reason. like you said it'll cost a grip but never say it's not feasible...i personally don't have the funds to do this but for the sake of arguement i'll say keep the hatch, create a slot for glass to slide in(move it in about .5") and order a custom fit glass
i understand modification. really i do. trust this. i also know custom. and this mod is not possible with a stock hatch. at all. no matter how you modifyit. unless you cut the window smaller which isnt a big deal but.... the lower portion of the hatch doesnt have enough room for the glass to slide down into. meaning your slick and very expensive sliding window cant even slide all the way down.

and hey mike c who's mom's and dad's are buying their bratty kids stuff? i dont mind bolt on's at all. i use alot of them as well as alot of modified parts.... but.... anyone who's parents buy them stuff. now that is a shame....


i think everyone should relax a bit.

OK heres the thing the whole rolling the rear window down thing.....extremely bad idea. I drove for about 10 miles without my glass on the car when going to get it put back into my carbon hatch, and with that window down and the aerodynamics or lack there of on our cars all of your exhaust is sucked right into the vehicle. and I kid you not within 10 minutes I had a massive headache.

dont get me wrong I wanted to do it myself before but after that not me. if i am spending that kind of money and time on a mod, damnit I want to enjoy it..... just my $.02

i almost forgot about that... if you were to do it be prepared to get custom side exit exhaust made. thats why most suvs with roll down or flip up rear hatches have side exit. and why exhaust literature says not to put dual rears straight out the back on a hatchbakc , wagon , or truck with a camper.

http://scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=89771

The irony.

First off, I'm not replying to defend anybody. I'm just gonna point out that your condescending attitude isn't helping the community in any shape or form. So before you get off calling me out for trying to be a wannabe mod, or backing someone up I've never even met, slow down. I'm just here to deflate that ego of yours, and go back to enjoying the boards.

I'm not even gonna speak on your bolt on sig, and your captain bolt on comment. I'll let that link do all the talking.

What I really wanted was to make sure you knew that the nonsense you've been posting lacks any credibility whatsoever. You've got the nerve to talk down people who use bolt on parts(which is MOST of this board), yet you want to buy a spoiler that attaches with double sided tape. :tap: Someone calls you out on a "photoshop"of yours that boasts of your hypocrisy, and you mark it off as highly acclaimed by "tasteful" critics. :blah: On top of that you go and clown on people for wanting to have a subtle window mod, saying it's on some WCC crack, while you yourself proudly post your camouflage nissan, or whatever it is, as if it's some underrated work of art. :loser:

If you want to chime in and give some constructive criticism, sure go on. Though It's not a bright idea to be telling people how they should live their lives, because that's not even close to criticism. Trust me, you sound like a Jehova's witness. I think I speak for all of us, when we suggest you quit worrying about how the next person lives his or her life, and most of all grow up.

Allright then, since you obviosly can't mind your own business, and let someone defend themselves, fine, just remember that you called me out buddy. :eyebrow:

First things first, No matter what my attititude is just that, mine. I appreciate you having an opinion about it, wait no I don't ha. Cause who are you again, oh yeah, NOBODY! Chances are, the reason you take so much offense to what I said (as no one else did) is because I struck a chord; because you can relate. Now look here "I am 20 years old and want to pick fights to prove I have genitals" who said anything about a "wannabe mod"?! Get with the picture son, read the posts first, and then quote me, not exagerate what you thought you saw. I said that it was "wild, and intense amounts of work for a "different" mod". However you take that is your business. But the last thing I will tolerate is some kid putting words in my mouth (believe me I can get myself into enough trouble with the ones that are already there).

Now as far as ego goes, if ego means that I will quickly cut someone down for disrespecting my truck when they obviously know nothing about what goes into the work of mini trucking as opposed to bolting on some rims, then yeah, you could say I have an ego. No worries there though, say all you want about my truck. I know you are ignorant, actually I feel bad for you. Go make a fool out of yourself by saying the wrong thing.

Bolt-ons. Bolt ons are an evil that must be lived with, but I would rather make something with my own two hands that the guy down the street won't have. But, because I don't fabricate composites I'll have to buy those carbon fiber components. The wing attatches with bolts, or at least rivets in my case smart guy :loser: .
And, uh, my main point, since obviously you have a hard time reading between the lines, is that (and pay attention son) there is a lot of talk about this major modification, when I don't even see any body shaving, just bolt ons. This task will require some experience and know how that one cannot gain by BOLTING PARTS ON. Do you get it know?! Was that clear enough for you?! Man! You attack people when you don't know what you should be offended about. Stop the Roids man!

Now as far as the urban camo on my truck (photoshop) I really don't care what YOU say about it because you are'nt anyone to me. But if there is anyone else who want's to talk about it just remember that is photoshop and was done for FUN! My truck does not look like that. Kind of difficult to call someone a hipocrit for something that does'nt exsist huh? :loser: Remember to think before you post, your temper proceeds you. And my Nissan, no matter what I do is awesome, who cares what anyone else thinks. I am sure there is some jerk out there somewhere who hates perfect Shelby Cobras. Big deal! The only opinion that ever matters is the owners, you know, the guy who has to look at it every day.

Now quit sniveling long enough to read this. At no point did I, or will I tell someone how to live there life. Your sensationalistic writing lacks a foundation and further proves your inexperience. Write based on what is there on the page, not what you thought you saw.

Note to all I'm done, and have said what I will. Did'nt mean to step on toes, but some people like to fight and have a problem controlling there typing fingers. I promise not to post on this subject again as I am obviously bothering some with my opinion. Thanks for listening with such open minds. Good day.

before you go out all upset....you said and i quote"and my nissan, no matter what i do is awesome..." i think alot of people feel that way, so if someone wants to put a sliding window, split rear hatch a jet engine cuz they think it will look good then let 'em be as for bolt on comments i'm pretty certain you got some bolt ons in your truck or xb i

And my Nissan, no matter what I do is awesome, who cares what anyone else thinks.

That's my point. Who cares what someone else does to their car, it's theirs isn't it? So why do you still insist on hating on people who do bolt ons or any other "out there" mods? You're only wasting your breath.

I'm not even gonna pick out your fallible comments, because really, there's plenty for me to quote prior to my reply. I'll just leave quotes and let you "read between the lines" because that seems to be your expertise.

Howsabout doing some mods that are worth while first. Shave the doors, shave the hatch. Suicide doors. Any if em' are awesome, and a good place to start for those who have not done major vehicle modification. This aint no bolt on body kit.

This mod is officially Wesy Coast Customs rediculous. Bing!

If that's not imposing or condescending, I don't know what is.

Now for your main retort, No one said anything about wannabe mod, that's why I threw it on the table when I did, so it wouldn't have to come up. It's not that I took offense either. That same attitude is what keeps a lot of the older and more informative and helpful members from posting as much as they used to. I notice some OG's just don't care much for SL, or the Scion scene much more because of behavior like this. I'm not saying because of people like you, because you're not a bad dude from other posts i've seen, it's just in this post where I see an exception. Lots of guys who used to post cool info, show where to get stuff, mention how to do this or that, refuse to post anymore. I think that sucks for newer members, or people just getting into the scene.

As for the personal stuff. Don't get me wrong, I personally hate pimp my ride, WCC, and all that gaudy stuff. I mean the only real mods I have on my car are wheels, and that's good enough for me and my daily driver. The roof rack is there for when I surf and bike which are often. I hate R.I.C.E. too, but then I don't go out and put down other owners for doing something I'm not a fan of. I only turned 18 last month, and I'm not trying to show I have balls, I'm just trying to do what I can to preserve things on the board/scene before it falls off. Later.

Here's my ride. I'll let you decide on how offended I was.

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