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sweet1
10-24-2005, 09:36 PM
About 2 weeks ago I went to the dealer and dealt with a super nice woman. I ended up ordering a 2006 Camo Xb. I just received a voicemail from the dealer. The woman is no longer working there and the man that called is now taking over the "deal". The message was something like: He has not heard when my car was coming in, but he does happen to have a Black 2005 with about 2000 miles on it. He was wondering if I might be interested in that so I could not only get my car sooner, but he could help me save some money.

WTF? I really, really liked the woman I worked with and this guy seems like one of those flashy, pushy, typical used car salesmen. Do you think he would get the commision if I switched vehicles or will he get it anyways? I have already put down a deposit and have been approved for the loan through the woman.

I really hate not having a vehicle. I live in the suburbs and have to have my friends drive me around (my car died). However, I was really set on having a brand new car for the first time with little/no mileage on it. My other car was black and I have always wanted a green (or greenish) car. But, I hate waiting!!!

I do not know what to do :? and I need to call him back tomorrow.

Sooooo...what would the pros/cons be for each, in your opinion...

MikeC
10-24-2005, 09:46 PM
When all is said and done, make yourself happy! And pay what you want to pay. Would the (apr) terms of the loan change if you got the Black one? How's the warranty? Was it a test drive vehicle? Ultimately, you have to drive this car every day. If you want green that bad could you handle looking at the Black one without saying to yourself , "I really wanted the green one"? Good luck, and listen to yourself.

sweet1
10-24-2005, 09:51 PM
I have not called him back yet. I am 98% sure it was the test drive vehicle being that it was the only manual that was there. That was also one of my concerns, owning a test driven vehicle. Don't people tned to beat up on them or is that just me??

I am really stupid when it comes to cars, so I would not even have thought to ask about the APR or warranty. Thanks!

Heather

Chillaxin206
10-24-2005, 10:02 PM
I have the demo one from my dealership and I haven't noticed anything wrong with it. If there was, the fact that its still under warranty is comfort enough for me. Mine had 1,345 miles on it, there was nothing wrong with the car, actually mine seems better then I've heard some people say about theirs...i.e. back door ratteling, engine noise, etc., I can't say that I have these annoyances. But I agree with MikeC listen to yourself, and what you really want. At the same time look at the options and what might be your best bet financially if that is something your considering. Take everything your looking for into account, then make a sound decision. But I can say a demo car is not necessairly a bad thing, mine also had mods already done to it that I didn't have to worry about getting myslef, or spend more time waiting on my car because I wanted them. I'm completely satisfied. I was able to finance my car for less since the price was discounted. Had I waited months to get one and had upgrades on it, I would not only have wasted alot of driving time, but money in financing too since the mods with a brand spanking new car would have cost more than mine. With only 1,345 miles, it was still practically new.

MikeC
10-24-2005, 10:03 PM
Well, as far as "beating them up" that usually refers to vehicles with noticable amounts of power. My concern would be that there is a break in period for new, or rebuilt engines, and chances are that this vehicle was not driven easily as it should have been. I've not taken many test drives, but the ones I have taken have always lead me to slam the throttle to the floor. Someone might tell you otherwise (God knows that the dealer will), but for my money I would feel much better about making payments on a brand new vehicle. The only benefits I can see are A) The car is there now. And B) It is cheaper. My concerns greatly outweigh the benefits though. Warrenty, driving history, and just plain peace of mind would solidify my desicion. But I am not you, nor do I know your financial situation. I am still waiting on my Black Xb which is floating over from Japan as we speak. So you could say I am biased.

joe52985
10-24-2005, 10:30 PM
I was offered the "demo car" at a reduced price also. After seeing how they drove it on the test drive I turned it down immediatly, the salesman was spinning tires out of the dealership and driving it like he stole it. people might not do it on test drives but dealers sure do when no ones around

rdclark
10-24-2005, 10:38 PM
IMO, wait and get the car you wanted. If you buy the demo and have problems with it, you'll be second-guessing yourself as long as you own the car.

If you have questions about working with this new salesman, contact the manager of the dealership. Tell him/her that you just want to make sure that the transfer of your deal to the new salesman isn't causing a holdup in delivery of your car, and while you're at it ask if you can get a reliable ETA on its arrival.

Who gets the commission is really not your problem. If the original saleswoman is staying in the business and just went to another dealership, they have protocols for handling deals that are in the air. And you'll probably get a postcard from her eventually inviting you to do business with her at her new job. I've gotten many of those over the years.

RichC

JediMindTrick
10-24-2005, 11:32 PM
rdclark made a good point. The dealership has their own system for handling sales commissions. It's really not something the customer should be concerned about. BUT, what you should be concerned about is that you purchase the car from someone you feel comfortable with. The previous salesperson took the time to build a relationship with you and to earn your trust by being professional and informed. You should accept no less from your "new" salesperson. If you have the time, visit the store and meet this person, talk to him and let him know what your previous salesperson as-a-representative-of-that-Scion-dealership promised you and what your expectations are. Though the original salesperson isn't there, any committments made still need to be honored by the dealership.
If you like your new salesperson, great. If you don't you can call the sales manager and ask to work with a new person. You don't have to give a reason why. It may be that you'd feel more comfortable working with a woman, if that 's the way you feel don't apologize, just let them know what you would like to have happen.
Most Scion customers develop a great relationship with their salesperson. This is the person who will be calling to follow-up with your purchase experience, or to invite you to any upcoming Scion Owner Events. If you want to purchase accessories later or schedule service this is who should be your contact person. Make sure it's someone with whom you WANT to maintain a professional relationship.
Okay, sorry for the long post, btw I bought a "demo" car too, it had 1000 miles on it, and I adore it! But it was exactly what I wanted, no compromise. A year from now it won't matter that you waited six weeks for your car to arrive, but if every time you look at the car you remember that you got your SECOND choice instead of your FIRST choice...

2006XB
10-25-2005, 12:21 AM
get the car you want.
i could've bought a BOP xB 2 weeks earlier, but i really wanted the BCP.
i like both, but i figured that i am buying a new car and i 'm getting the exact car that i want.

martinphillip03
10-26-2005, 03:48 AM
Wait. In the end it won't matter

Marty

bB2NER
10-26-2005, 04:06 AM
I say wait. In the end it won't seem so long. Just seems long now because of your circumstances but it will be worth it. Trust me!

MikeC
10-26-2005, 04:08 AM
I heard that the Camo was discontinued, but have'nt confirmed that.

elusivedragon
10-26-2005, 11:50 AM
i say wait, i just got my first ever brand new car, all mine. And words cant describe how happy i am with that feeling...its my car nobody else has driven it.

if youve waited this long, get new like you wanted!!!!

plus you can always get your deposit back and go somewhere else, you dont owe them anything!! I went to 3 different dealerships, 2 though for sure i would come back and buy from them but i did not...they are just trying to make money so do what YOU want

sweet1
10-26-2005, 02:44 PM
I heard that the Camo was discontinued, but have'nt confirmed that.

Yes it is :cry:

I have another post about that...when I called about this issue, they were like, oh yeah, the Camo has benn discontinued...

ETA: They have a new TCM coming in next week, so I decided to take that. It is brand new and 5 speed. At least I don't have to wait too much longer...

bB2NER
10-26-2005, 07:25 PM
Every time you see a Camo Box you will think back and say "I should have waited just a little longer"

rdclark
10-26-2005, 08:06 PM
The color is much less important than the fact that it's brand new. Congratulations.

RichC

OneBadBox
10-26-2005, 11:50 PM
I think the salesMAN just wants a commision check as soon as possible. If he can get you to buy one today that's sooner than later.

bB2NER
10-27-2005, 12:48 AM
The color is much less important than the fact that it's brand new. Congratulations.

RichCLook at it this way. If the color wasn't really important. Why did she start 2 topics on the subject. Must be something to it after all. But hey if she wants to settle. So be it :relief:

Sciond
10-27-2005, 01:51 AM
hmm I would have waited..what s a few weeks vs years of happines....

Box666
10-27-2005, 05:40 AM
if I read correctly your getting a brand spankin' new tcm...awesomeness! My tcm xb was my first brand new car....wouldnt have wanted it any other way....the lower the mileage the better. Anywho Cheerz to your new car!

rdclark
10-27-2005, 06:40 PM
The color is much less important than the fact that it's brand new. Congratulations.

RichCLook at it this way. If the color wasn't really important. Why did she start 2 topics on the subject. Must be something to it after all. But hey if she wants to settle. So be it :relief:

It would be better for the sake of inner peace if she could let the color issue go, if she already pulled the trigger on the TCM. Regrets are spiritual cancer.

RichC

bunburiano_chilepicking
10-27-2005, 07:25 PM
you know when i first got my xb i got the blue one but i wanted the silver one an everytime i saw a silv one i just felted like i was on the wrong one after a month the dealer send me a dealer saying i need to bring the car back cause none of the financial companies can aprove me to get a loan . i took the oportunitie to take the car back and ask my girl friend to sign on my new silver box eversince is like having the right toy. but before finding the right one took me a week after checking on about 15 different toyotas now is all beatiful with my xb perfect toy

sweet1
10-27-2005, 08:59 PM
It would be better for the sake of inner peace if she could let the color issue go, if she already pulled the trigger on the TCM. Regrets are spiritual cancer.



Yeah...I have been sick and cranky, so everything was a much bigger deal to me than it would be if I were in my normal state of health. I have since then been told that I can get the Camo, but it might be early January. :blah: I am doing a roadtrip to CO for New Year's, so I really need my car before then.

I should be getting my brand new tcm next week and I am really excited. (although one salesman said it would be in on Nov. 1st, the other said within 10 days, so I am not sure exactly when, but it will be soon!) Besides, tcm matches so much better with all of my outfits (ha-ha). Seriously, I took a look at one and I do like the color, so it's all good. Even so, I will probably not be going back to this dealer when I buy my next one...

rdclark
10-28-2005, 12:25 PM
TCM is good. It shows dirt less than any other xB color, and xB's tend to show dirt more than other cars for some reason. When we bought our xB back in July, we took the first available stock automatic, regardless of color, because we were in a stone hurry. It happened to be BOP, and it's a handsome beast. But it looks dirty five minutes after you wash it. I suspect all of the darker colors share this issue.

RichC

bB_Widow
10-28-2005, 06:21 PM
exactly why they should of had more light colors instead of dark.. its a dust magnet but such a pretty magnet.