Ok well, I now have my SC installed and yeah I love it. It is a very smooth power delivery and you can notice a difference as low as 2000 rpm's. I have heard this from a very reliable source. But anywase I have heard that within two-three weeks there will be an intercooler system available that should add 30-40 whp. They have decided to go front mount. It sounds about right because if you look at the Vortec website the civic gained 45 whp do to an intercooler and the Integra gained 35.

Secondly, within the next couple weeks there will also be three new pulley upgrade kits to boost the psi. Well, now any S/C guys should have no probelm at all hanging with anything out there with a few upgrades. Also the intercooler shouldn't effect the warrenty what so ever however I don't know about the pulley's. Adding another 40 whp should put the TC's at a solid 240 w/o header or exhaust.

i havent heard anything like this from scion/toyota. what source is this? an intercooler would be cool but i dont see how it can add that much hp when the sc already adds 40-60hp

im just posting cuz i wanna be updated with this topic. if this is all true i may get the supercharger :-)

yea that intercooler is pretty necessary here in vegas for the summer time...115 degrees is no joke

i havent heard anything like this from scion/toyota. what source is this? an intercooler would be cool but i dont see how it can add that much hp when the sc already adds 40-60hp

Yeah. What "reliable" source is this?

If this is going to be true, its just makes my decision for going S/C even better.

you sure it will be a front mount and not one of the charge coolers, like this one
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/images/4ft218-030s_underhood.gif
sounds too good too be true....but i hope it is of course

i was told by one of the TRD guys at a show that TRD would be coming out with an intercooler but not until next year

This could be very interesting. But lets not get our hopes up, Remember how long it took them to come out with the supercharger.

i dont know about the intercooler, but it would make sense that trd would want to have upgrade pulley kits to market since aftermarket people would be making a living off of it. besides, the s/c doesnt put out that much power anyways so mayb that is jus another strategy to market upgrade kits.

This could be very interesting. But lets not get our hopes up, Remember how long it took them to come out with the supercharger.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: so true

but seriously folks. Please don't play with my emotions when it comes to the TRD supercharger. If TRD is really coming out with upgrades, I will be a very happy man.

all this information on the supercharger is making me think twice...

yea, intake sales are gonna really go down noww hahaha, except for of course umnitza and ARC

To aggressive for TRD. It is correct and valid information that comes from a VERY reliable source, the company has proven themselves to be a leader in forced induction in the SCION community. I was not sworn to secrecy but I will not let the cat out of the bag.

To aggressive for TRD. It is correct and valid information that comes from a VERY reliable source, the company has proven themselves to be a leader in forced induction in the SCION community. I was not sworn to secrecy but I will not let the cat out of the bag.

i guess we're just gonna have to grab a hold of that bag and rip it open ourselves.

jk.

hmmm..forced induction and scion....doesnt take a genius to figure out that ZPI is suspect number 1...or is it?

Scionspeed, I'm sure.

Scionspeed, I'm sure.
:rofl: right after their turbo kits start shipping right?

I have been leaning more towards a turbo lately (after starting off so S/C crazy)
after some dyno # have shown up im leaning back
if this is all true then I am def gonna go back to the SC.

I still wanna know when the super charger is gonna come out for the Auto. Anyone have any idea?

That would make me buy one..

Ok so I will tell you my source.. Sorry it was so fun to see every one get excited. The source was Kenny over at ZPI in Louisville. They make a great turbo but realize theres money to be made in the S/C world. They are excited about the TRD/ Vortec setup and about how much potential it has.

Dallas

For those who are scepticle go to the Vrtec website and look for your self the HP gains on the these cars

1999-2001 Civic Si

* Adds 45+ horsepower
* Adds 30+ lb/ft of torque

1994-1998 Integra GSR

* Adds 35+ horsepower
* Adds 25+ lb/ft of torque

1994-2001 Integra LS

* Adds 25+ horsepower
* Adds 25+ lb/ft of torque

With our car we should expect 35-45 easy. Add header and exhaust/ downpipe and you have added a total of 60 + more horses to the S/C. With out upping the psi at all. Thats the route I'm going to go.

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/products/

Oh, yeah we should expect these pulleys and intercoolers within the month of November.
By this next week they will have the first intercooler made and tested.

Sorry for not putting all of this in the first post.

If this is really true then I'm sold on the supercharger. I'd be content driving around with the factory supercharger until the warranty is up. However, I was always hesitant because I wasn't sure how much support there would be for higher hp applications once my warranty runs out. Keep us updated on any new info you get.

For those who are scepticle go to the Vrtec website and look for your self the HP gains on the these cars

1999-2001 Civic Si

* Adds 45+ horsepower
* Adds 30+ lb/ft of torque

1994-1998 Integra GSR

* Adds 35+ horsepower
* Adds 25+ lb/ft of torque

1994-2001 Integra LS

* Adds 25+ horsepower
* Adds 25+ lb/ft of torque

With our car we should expect 35-45 easy. Add header and exhaust/ downpipe and you have added a total of 60 + more horses to the S/C. With out upping the psi at all. Thats the route I'm going to go.


any body in ILL who wouldnt mind slapping a sticker on there car for me ill do a front mount with a intake and a exhaust for you free maybe you buy the i/c and the muffler ill pickup the piping and the filter


pm me!!!!!!

For those who are scepticle go to the Vrtec website and look for your self the HP gains on the these cars

1999-2001 Civic Si

* Adds 45+ horsepower
* Adds 30+ lb/ft of torque

1994-1998 Integra GSR

* Adds 35+ horsepower
* Adds 25+ lb/ft of torque

1994-2001 Integra LS

* Adds 25+ horsepower
* Adds 25+ lb/ft of torque

With our car we should expect 35-45 easy. Add header and exhaust/ downpipe and you have added a total of 60 + more horses to the S/C. With out upping the psi at all. Thats the route I'm going to go.

Those gains are from Vortech's charge coolers. Not front mount intercooler. I would like to see TRD come out with a FMIC for the s/c. Those charge coolers do not look like they would fit in the engine bay. I have the s/c and I can tell you, THAT THING IS HUGE!!! Barely anymore room under there now.

wow, way to go ZPI again, this is very intresting....

ZPI....TOP of the World! :wink:

ZPI....TOP of the World! :wink:

world excluding california :doh:

ZPI....TOP of the World! :wink:

world excluding california :doh:


heehee...can't please them all.

i want oneeeeeeeeeee

we got our new tC and new supercharger today look for results over the weekend and a prototype FMIC done by Monday

told you guys they are all over it.. they are taking the Tc market pretty serious. Can't wait to see the dyno results... Good job ZPI representing the Ville and all Tc owners.

cant wait for the pics...

"TRD" FMIC on the Supercharged tC from Scion - *featured at the Longo Event @ Irwindale Speedway* - The intercooler will be a stage 2 option for the supercharger.
http://www.tweakedice.com/images/trdfmic1.jpg

http://www.tweakedice.com/images/trdsuperc1.jpg

nice...say goodbye to the OEM fogs though

Can ZPI please give us a little more info on the FMIC and supercharger upgrades?

kingofska, do you have a release date for the TRD FMIC? cost? and who makes it? (or is this actually made by trd)

Are the two pictures supposed to be the same car? Because if they are, the intercooler doesn't seem to be hooked up to anything. You can see the hose on the discharge side of the SC is going right towards the throttle body. It does not look to me as if there is room to turn that hose around to get it to the front of the car, much less get the return hose back through to the throttlebody.

Yeah, wheres it hooked up to? But if thats the real deal, wow. I want the SC so bad.

I see FMIC in my car's future...

Okay it is midnight we just got done with the shop work now it is time to install the supercharger check for new threads in the morning

Have a good night

I see FMIC in my car's future...

same here...

Okay it is midnight we just got done with the shop work now it is time to install the supercharger check for new threads in the morning

Have a good night

you couldve just stayed up a lil longer and post pics with the new thread instead you decided to be a TEASE. :P

kingofska, do you have a release date for the TRD FMIC? cost? and who makes it? (or is this actually made by trd)

what i was told is that it will be released in late november. i wasn't told a price.... only that it will be priced with the supercharger as a 'stage 2' option. i'm not for certain if the fmic is made by trd, but as u can see in the picture is has TRD in big red on it..... so who knows. only time will tell.

what eles is supposted to come with the stage 2 upgrade?

well well, looks like the S/C is getting some much needed love :)

Wow! Hrm... maybe I need to get an s/c tC as a daily driver. :P

what eles is supposted to come with the stage 2 upgrade?

a waiting period for "research and development" (about 1-100 months.) :rofl:

Can you use any fmic? or does it have to be the trd one... also, i read much about upping the psi of the s/c.. how is this done? something with the pulley?? how much hp/torque can you push out of the s/c?

whoa from the bowls of cybernetic oblivion, lol.
there is currently no TRD intake charge cooling options.

heres a thread with some good info on the kit itself and some upgrades you can do
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=190618

^^ haha 3 year old bump!! havent seen something like this in a loooong time!

people have been bring back old threads lately lol

i'm still a little sketchy about this i'm going to keep watching but i'm thinking they will probably want close to $500+ for the i/c to gain 30-40hp..when i could spend a little over $200 for a water/meth kit and keep my car just as cool and gain anywhere from 25-40 hp with money left over to buy an intake or exhaust and a pulley and grab possibly more power...but i'll keep watching

wow, im really excited, i really hope this is going to happen

a trd intercooler for the s/c was put on a tc race car not to long ago...

u guys do realize that this was posted in 05 lol . idk if scion is actually gonna follow through with the intercooler . they havent for 3 years now

i knew before i posted that this thread was old... not so sure about the guys above me though lol

just thought i would throw in that they are now using that intercooler on a s/c tc for racing

well they built at least the one or 2 working ones so i would like to think they actually used it for more then being on a corp trailered show car.

the jackson-dawson tc has a trd water-air intercooler in it, so the product is done and being used, but who knows if it'll be available to the public

so many ironic posts in this thread. I love readin old threads that promise so much, and everyone has these amazing sources and think they know people. And very rarely does any of it ever happen.

THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN!!! An intercooler has shown to be a HORRIBLE idea for our s/c cars.

An intercooler has shown to be a HORRIBLE idea for our s/c cars.

...then why is the jackson-dawson tc using a trd water-air intercooler?

Only air to air fmic has shown to be of no benefit. Liquid to air would work especially one that requires no external airflow like the one on the JD tC or the PWR Liquid to Air Barrel Intercooler (http://www.pwr-performance.com/intercooler.htm) (second from the bottom)
The only problem with the fmic is the length of pipe the air has to pass thru.

the jackson-dawson tc has a trd water-air intercooler in it, so the product is done and being used, but who knows if it'll be available to the public

Yes he is and it works, Dan said they are going into production, but he did not know when or how much they would be, if anybody plans on running one of those, you need to have the car tuned, its not a slap on drive away kind of mod.

Damit I started this and then noticed the earlier posts were from 2005 :doh:

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An intercooler has shown to be a HORRIBLE idea for our s/c cars.

...then why is the jackson-dawson tc using a trd water-air intercooler?

Only air to air fmic has shown to be of no benefit. Liquid to air would work especially one that requires no external airflow like the one on the JD tC or the PWR Liquid to Air Barrel Intercooler (http://www.pwr-performance.com/intercooler.htm) (second from the bottom)
The only problem with the fmic is the length of pipe the air has to pass thru.

But that is not the style intercooler being discussed. And is not the style that countless supercharger owners have hoped/tried for.

A barrel cooler would be awesome. And has been done. But TRD will never put one into production.

FMICs have been tried and have lost so much boost on every tC it has been on. It wont happen from TRD ever. And very doubtful that it will happen from an aftermarket company. because anyone that would buy it would be buyign for looks alone. Performance would not be there.

its just not worth the money for a intercooler for the trd sc the sc its the lowest class of vortech. i would just go with meth rather then an intercooler.. just my 02 cent....