Who makes the cheapest exhaust system around? When I say cheap I dont mean cheaply made either! Just trying to save a buck!

Might I recomend the PrecisionMuffler.com Axle back for a gentleman like your self!
Very nice and only 275.00 plus shipping and tax. It is the perfect bolt on to compliment the perfect vehicle, and the muffler is cheaper then anyone available.
http://www.precisionmuffler.com/066c2520.jpg

Might I recomend the PrecisionMuffler.com Axle back for a gentleman like your self!
Very nice and only 275.00 plus shipping and tax. It is the perfect bolt on to compliment the perfect vehicle, and the muffler is cheaper then anyone available.
http://www.precisionmuffler.com/066c2520.jpg

Pick up this exaust. It is good quality and it has a nice deep sound. At cruising speed it quiets down and is practically silent. Two Thumbs Waaaaay Up There!

Or you can get a Borla for $6 more.

Thank You Mr.Smiley , glad to hear you are enjoying your muffler! :D

Or you can get a Borla for $6 more.
The dude said cheapest. :shock: 6 bucks more is expensive.

Or you can get a Borla for $6 more.
The dude said cheapest. :shock: 6 bucks more is expensive.

Yeah .. who pee'd in his cocopuffs this morning.... :P

are there any power gains on those cheeper exaughts

Since I haven't dyno'd my car, I can't say ... but it does seem a bit more "peppy" . Could be all in my head .. but I'm diggin it all the same

do you want it for sound or perfomance?

The HP gain is about 2HP. I am gonna tell you the truth and not try to sell you too much :D

depends on weather you want the look or power. For both I'd say pickup a tip or muffler you like, resonator if you wish, then have it custom done. Then again I dunno how these cars respond to exhaust work.

Well I really want the sound. Dont care too much about performance. Looks like I'll be dealing with precision muffler! THANKS.

Well I really want the sound. Dont care too much about performance. Looks like I'll be dealing with precision muffler! THANKS.

WAY TO GO man :lol:

Go with Precision Muffler and you won't be sorry. Gabe is a great guy to do business with too. We've had ours for a couple of weeks and the sound of the exhaust has gotten better and deeper as the days go by.

Or you can make your own axle back straight pipe for less than $50.

KiL

Or you can make your own axle back straight pipe for less than $50.

KiL


You kill me KingLou! :shock:

Def. go with the Precision Muffler axle back you won't be dissapointed. I'm quite happy with mine,

Not to take anything away from your shameless plugging Gabe :wink: ..........the Precsion Muffler setup is definitely a good way to go.

But.....if he's looking for super cheap DIY..........he's got that option too.

KiL

adam, i like the pic in your sig..... :lol:

first off.. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR..
2nd of all..
mufflers(5zigen/tananbe style) ones on ebay go for 40-60 shipped.
a muffler shop will charge anywhere from 30-50 to install a muffler.

you're looking at a lil over 100 for a "tuner" style canister muffler.

remmeber this is the cheapest route.. i would never do it to my car. but whatever u want.. this is the best deal.

first off.. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR..
2nd of all..
mufflers(5zigen/tananbe style) ones on ebay go for 40-60 shipped.
a muffler shop will charge anywhere from 30-50 to install a muffler.

you're looking at a lil over 100 for a "tuner" style canister muffler.

remmeber this is the cheapest route.. i would never do it to my car. but whatever u want.. this is the best deal.

Ok, then I guess I am going to have to be the top sales guy here!! (And I am drunk from my B-Day!) The tanabe and 5Zigen are known for being for the xA and need an adjustment for the xB.(Meaning you are going to have to pay a muffler shop to adjust it!) The muffler shop will charge you 30 dollars for a muffler to install, when u can install my muffler for free and its EASY to install! the 100 dollar canister is 100 bucks and is cheaply made by anybody in their garage and I know for a fact that hahajoey would never put something so cheap as those items on his car, even if it was a bet! :shock: So I am the shop you want to talk to! Give me a call,
(408) 263-8474 Precision Muffler & Brake! Ask for Gabe!

adam, i like the pic in your sig..... :lol:

Check out:

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10880

...for an explanation. :wink:

KiL

Ok, then I guess I am going to have to be the top sales guy here!! (And I am drunk from my B-Day!) The tanabe and 5Zigen are known for being for the xA and need an adjustment for the xB.(Meaning you are going to have to pay a muffler shop to adjust it!) The muffler shop will charge you 30 dollars for a muffler to install, when u can install my muffler for free and its EASY to install! the 100 dollar canister is 100 bucks and is cheaply made by anybody in their garage and I know for a fact that hahajoey would never put something so cheap as those items on his car, even if it was a bet! :shock: So I am the shop you want to talk to! Give me a call,
(408) 263-8474 Precision Muffler & Brake! Ask for Gabe!

yea i wouldn't put one of those generic ones, but god damn! some scion owners are just so cheap! haha. if you're norcal, you gotta stop by gabes.. its 'THE SPOT' for scion owners i think.. heh heh.

yea i wouldn't put one of those generic ones, but god damn! some scion owners are just so cheap! haha. if you're norcal, you gotta stop by gabes.. its 'THE SPOT' for scion owners i think.. heh heh.

Thanks hahajoey , I knew you weren't that cheap! :D And yes the Scion Central is the spot for scion Owners.

Damn Gabe, Mad crazy shamless plugs huh?! HAHA. :lol:

I'm cheap.......so what. :cry:

Actually.......I'm not above going with the more pocket book taxing, high quality exhaust work.

However.......I'll save that for when I've got an engine that needs it (ie, if I do a forced induction set up).........and probably do a full Stylis manifold back (plug plug plug). :wink:

But for now......the <$50 DIY axle back straigh pipe is working fine for me. :wink:

KiL

JIC Stainless Rear Section - $288 + Shipping

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10476

I plan on getting one, probably because i've never seen a 'precision' exhaust.

Andrew

JIC Stainless Rear Section - $288 + Shipping

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10476

I plan on getting one, probably because i've never seen a 'precision' exhaust.

Andrew

288? Still too high! PrecisionMuffler.com Axle Back $275.00 Thats better! :D

JIC Stainless Rear Section - $288 + Shipping

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10476

I plan on getting one, probably because i've never seen a 'precision' exhaust.

Andrew

288? Still too high! PrecisionMuffler.com Axle Back $275.00 Thats better! :D

wow. after all the work you put into this thread, i hope he DOES choose your exhaust! :lol:

JIC Stainless Rear Section - $288 + Shipping

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10476

I plan on getting one, probably because i've never seen a 'precision' exhaust.

Andrew

288? Still too high! PrecisionMuffler.com Axle Back $275.00 Thats better! :D

wow. after all the work you put into this thread, i hope he DOES choose your exhaust! :lol:

Thanks my scion brother! :D

Gabe, you and I and other try to provide quality products at a reasonable price, then becaue someone wh is new to forum hasn't heard of us, or doesn't do a subject search, we are not a reputable source, never mind the time in dynoing that you do, or the time I spent checking wiring diagrams & schematics. A couple of bucks and they buy from someone else. Our hard work will be rewarded someday.I will quit whining now. Waah Waah. Bill

Gabe, you and I and other try to provide quality products at a reasonable price, then becaue someone wh is new to forum hasn't heard of us, or doesn't do a subject search, we are not a reputable source, never mind the time in dynoing that you do, or the time I spent checking wiring diagrams & schematics. A couple of bucks and they buy from someone else. Our hard work will be rewarded someday.I will quit whining now. Waah Waah. Bill

Don't worry man, lets just head to the bar and put up our feet.
http://www.corona.com/images/postcard_vistas/vista2.jpg

JIC Stainless Rear Section - $288 + Shipping

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10476

I plan on getting one, probably because i've never seen a 'precision' exhaust.

Andrew

288? Still too high! PrecisionMuffler.com Axle Back $275.00 Thats better! :D
I seriously hope everyone would fork out $13 more for full mandrel, full SS piping & fully robotically TIG-welded exhaust from JIC - one of the more established tuners in Japan.

this: http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/subcode/128-2865_IMG.jpg shows the crush bends as well as what I presume to be aluminized steel piping sprayed w/ black hi-temp paint of the 'Precision' system. this stuff: http://precisionmuffler.com/066c2520.jpg looks like something a HS kid welded in shop class & nowhere near 5Zigen/JIC quality.

btw, a $100 muffler is NOT generic. on summitracing.com: Dynomax Ultra Flo, 2 1/2 in. center inlet/center outlet, stainless steel, muffler $106.88 . Seeing you're a muffler shop, surely you know that muffler is just as good as the Magnaf MIG welded onto your exhaust systems...

finally, can't blame Scion owners for being cheap. These are $15K entry level compact cars targeted at pre-Gen X/first time buyers, not $50K Bimmers/Benzos.

*hisses like a snake*

Did someone say precision mufler axle back, oh ____ that was me.
www.precisionmufler.com, damn I said it again.

Let this be the last post! Please! I am buying from precision muffler!!!!!!

MMM .... yer not the last post ... good choice on the purchase .. won't be dissapointed!!

www.precisionmuffler.com ooops .. another link

Honestly after all this rampant advertising, I think I'd rather not spend my money with that muffler shop. Don't companies have to pay to advertise on here?

What are the Mods doing?

Honestly after all this rampant advertising, I think I'd rather not spend my money with that muffler shop. Don't companies have to pay to advertise on here?

What are the Mods doing?

Yo, check his Icon and the Flashing Gold Bars that say "Gold Sponsor". Idiot...

Honestly after all this rampant advertising, I think I'd rather not spend my money with that muffler shop. Don't companies have to pay to advertise on here?

What are the Mods doing?

feel free to either notice the happy flashing banner at the top of your screen (that occasionally says precision muffler shop) or the "gold sponser" designation by stylis' name/avatar

oh and fyi this is what the mods are doing

Great so they sponsored so they can run around all the threads and tell everyone to buy from them? Hey I'm gunna buy a banner for $500 for the year and then run around ranting about how good Walmart's rim and tire shop is... thats not what they pay for as sponsors. They pay for the banner, not the right to run rampant through threads advertising their business.

When McDonalds buys a 30 second slot on the tv station you watch, it doesn't allow them to come sit on your couch and rap with your friends and family.

and you dont have to read the thread dude. gabe is a great guy and he works hard to support his family and add to the burgeoning scion community. since your new i wouldnt expect you to know this.

but as far as you. first you complain that hes not a sponser and shouldn't be posting all this advertising. then when you find out he actually is a sponser well hells bells he should just keep it at the banner.

pick one argument and stick with it.

Nevermind, we can't hold it against him. His name is Richard.

Ok, this isn't cool. You need to stop giving gabe ____! He's one of the hardest working, nicest guys you will ever meet. There isn't anything that I or any of his real friends wouldn't do for him! As for his product....its the best out there and I mean it. I have the axle back and its the ____!


Now, leave him alone and go find one of these other guys that only jack other honest peoples post, and bother them!

JIC Stainless Rear Section - $288 + Shipping

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10476

I plan on getting one, probably because i've never seen a 'precision' exhaust.

Andrew

288? Still too high! PrecisionMuffler.com Axle Back $275.00 Thats better! :D
I seriously hope everyone would fork out $13 more for full mandrel, full SS piping & fully robotically TIG-welded exhaust from JIC - one of the more established tuners in Japan.

this: http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/subcode/128-2865_IMG.jpg shows the crush bends as well as what I presume to be aluminized steel piping sprayed w/ black hi-temp paint of the 'Precision' system. this stuff: http://precisionmuffler.com/066c2520.jpg looks like something a HS kid welded in shop class & nowhere near 5Zigen/JIC quality.

btw, a $100 muffler is NOT generic. on summitracing.com: Dynomax Ultra Flo, 2 1/2 in. center inlet/center outlet, stainless steel, muffler $106.88 . Seeing you're a muffler shop, surely you know that muffler is just as good as the Magnaf MIG welded onto your exhaust systems...



So nice to see a newbie online that appreciates the topic! :D Also I dropped JIC products from my website, becasue they don't like to honor thier warranties when there is a problem with their stuff. And they are based in Japan, so you think they are gonna call you or email you the next day if you have a problem with their product?

Next complaint: HS kid work? you really went there! :shock: 5Zigen quality is just the same as me, except I am doin the work by hand and not allowing a machine to take care of it.

Next complaint:summitracing.com mufflers are cheaply built except for the flowmasters but I would never suggest anyone to buy a Dynomax muffler , even to make a buck! And if you are browsing summitracing, then you are a an american hotrod guy and somehow got into scions. :lol:

Great so they sponsored so they can run around all the threads and tell everyone to buy from them? Hey I'm gunna buy a banner for $500 for the year and then run around ranting about how good Walmart's rim and tire shop is... thats not what they pay for as sponsors. They pay for the banner, not the right to run rampant through threads advertising their business.

When McDonalds buys a 30 second slot on the tv station you watch, it doesn't allow them to come sit on your couch and rap with your friends and family.

Sounds like someone is bitter, but that ok. I don't hate, but you gotta remeber everyone that I had a guy drive up from Southern LA . Just to get a hero's welcome and get an awesome exhaust system. By the way did I mention that we have only 108 HP and yet people are still complaining about my bends? Also the topic says"Cheap exhaust system?"and I was only answering the question.




DGTLLVR did you answer the topic question Newbie?
TonyC did you answer the topic question Newbie?
:roll:
Making a first impression is always the lasting one, I am cool guy and I will let you guys answer. But hopefully in the end we will be having drinks at our next exposed meet. :)

ok ...... time for my pimp hand .......


not only is gabe a sponser ......... but has a clean xB as his daily driver and is one of the most active scion enthusiasts i know ....... which gives him full rights to any discussion on these boards (which was fully on topic)

futhermore, as someone who has been building autos from 4wd's w/ 440's to street trucks w/ pushed-to-the-max 4 bangers for over 10 years and have ACTUALLY SEEN THE MAN BUILD THE AXLEBACK i can honestly say his work is top-notch

so until you gain some knowledge THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE NEWBIES!!!!!

<gives newbies coronas> now run along and play

Let me in here ! I gotta say one thing I have Gabe's system and I get tons of complements on it I went to L.A. this weekend and had six Xb owners all say thay loved the sound of it and they wished they had got one. It does'nt sound like a honda!!!!!!

I here all this talk of the precision axle-back and it seems interesting. :shock: Does anyone have a close-up pic of that system installed? Does it drag on driveways? thanks

I here all this talk of the precision axle-back and it seems interesting. :shock: Does anyone have a close-up pic of that system installed? Does it drag on driveways? thanks

Already answered you question my friend. Check it out on the group buy section.

I here all this talk of the precision axle-back and it seems interesting. :shock: Does anyone have a close-up pic of that system installed? Does it drag on driveways? thanksI'm dropped 2 1/2" and no it does not drag!

Holry Cow, I cant believe I missed this....
Must be that kid with the Element again....
Dood, Gabe you are the man! And wow, look at the army behind you!!! Lets Rumble!!!



Doc

One more of members of Gabe's army here. GAbe is as straigth up a guy you are going to find, his service is second to nun, How amny guys are going to talk to you while he is under car making his living, There are alot OG's\Veterano's out here on Scion life, think before you speak.

My closing statement is we welcome all argurments and opinions, hostility is not need, You will find out why why we all support each other, because we are a family, we might not agree all the time, but we work it out and we don't blast each, Enough said. Bill Turner Dba Scion Specialties.

My closing statement is we welcome all argurments and opinions, hostility is not need, You will find out why why we all support each other, because we are a family, we might not agree all the time, but we work it out and we don't blast each, Enough said.

8)

a welder, some pipe reducers and a flowmaster. best sounding exhaust on a car. (not om my scion yet but had it on my focus)

a welder, some pipe reducers and a flowmaster. best sounding exhaust on a car. (not om my scion yet but had it on my focus)

Thats a freaking loud set-up. :D I had that set-up installed on the exhaust system for Eric M. and scionara was in the shop with me and that thing woke the dead!

Do you have a sound file (.wav) of what your muffler note sounds like?

Thanks.

xbMojo

BTW: Just took delivery of my xB two days ago and have already dropped it 2"!

bling!

Do you have a sound file (.wav) of what your muffler note sounds like?

Thanks.

xbMojo

BTW: Just took delivery of my xB two days ago and have already dropped it 2"!

bling!
which one, the flowmaster or the precisionmuffler.com axle back?

well, how about both?

thanks.

I found a sight that is selling a axle back 5Zigen fireball muffler for $222.47. That is the cheapest I found. Like errbody says, it depends on what ya want.

http://www.adventon.com/acb/showprod.cfm?&DID=24&User_ID=612005&st=8390&st2=704982654&st3=182171611&CATID=230&ObjectGroup_ID=2897

Gabe, way to pirate my signature :wink:

Gabe, way to pirate my signature :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Don't hate fabricate! I was wondering when you were gonna say something! :lol: ok I'm gonna go back to the way I was now. :D Just did it for a laugh!