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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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If you read it, it states that they are not responsible for fixing anything if you race it, or overload it?!?!

Now first of all, what do they mean by overloading it? Do they mean turning the boost up?

Secondly, unless you tell them you were at the track when your motor blew out, how are they going to know that you were racing? Does spirited driving on a freeway or highway count as racing?

Anyone have any prior experinces with these issues?
Old Oct 29, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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yes spirited driving is considered racing.

the ECU logs everything you do.

and technically. the idea of "driven under normal conditions" is applied
Old Oct 29, 2005 | 11:54 PM
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what's the sense then? buy the supercharger and enjoy it on the "normal" drive to work and local coffee shop?
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 12:36 AM
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the sense is that you will pay another 3k for bragging rights
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 12:37 AM
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of course, its going to be hard for them to tell just how it was "overloaded" unless you do something obvious to it like changing a belt or something
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 12:48 AM
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The ECU logs everything done....if the computer reads boost above a set limit, or if the last reading from the ECU was bouncing it off redline, etc. It would probably void the warranty would be my guess
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 12:52 AM
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There's ways around that too. Just have a spare ECU like me
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 01:18 AM
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Now we are definitely gonna hafta buy that tool you bastard lol
Gonna need to reflash both
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 01:21 AM
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Now we are definitely gonna hafta buy that tool you bastard lol
Gonna need to reflash both
I'll call you later about it .
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by daewonder
what's the sense then? buy the supercharger and enjoy it on the "normal" drive to work and local coffee shop?

just dont spill it.......
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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Isnt there a way for the tech's at toyota to find out if you installed a new ecu? .....by the way if someone wanted one, how much would it cost. and could you just pick one up from the dealer?
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you dont want a brand new ECU it will cost way too much...your better off grabbing one from a junked tC if possible.
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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All that warranty stuff is pretty standard. Didnt the Mitsi void warranties on Evos when they found out people raced them?
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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Guys, common. The TRD s/c isn't designed when you first install it to make lots of power. Its only giving you guys 192whp. Its all for show and to give you some go.

If you want power, get a turbo. ZPI is a great place to start for power gains.

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that blower is rated up to about 20 psi...you could easily push out just as much power as a stage 1 ZPI turbo on the ECU reflash with a lil help...pulley, injectors and something to control the injectors(piggyback) and your set
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It's just a Caveat so the dealership can save their skin if you really do something malicious with your car.

Like burnouts in revers, doing doughnuts on the freeway, etc.

I'm sure there will be some dealerships who will use this against the customer, but I doubt it will prevent most from getting repairs done to the S/C.

I think the dealership understands owners of the S/C will be jumping off the line at a stop light a little faster, but if you get the S/C and continually redline your automatic instead of *not* driving like an idiot, they have something to quote when you wonder why your engine is broken.
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Originally Posted by Simplyscion
that blower is rated up to about 20 psi...you could easily push out just as much power as a stage 1 ZPI turbo on the ECU reflash with a lil help...pulley, injectors and something to control the injectors(piggyback) and your set
Like i said, when you first install it. Of course it can go up to 20psi, a lot of turbos and superchargers can be upgraded. However, with that $5k spent you could have spent a little less and be putting out more whp. That was my point.

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Originally Posted by jrv2000
Isnt there a way for the tech's at toyota to find out if you installed a new ecu? .....by the way if someone wanted one, how much would it cost. and could you just pick one up from the dealer?
ya

mileage on the ECU... goes from 10k and jumps to 25k? i dont tink tats reasonable ahaha i believe the ECU will log this too
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hahaitzskippy
Originally Posted by jrv2000
Isnt there a way for the tech's at toyota to find out if you installed a new ecu? .....by the way if someone wanted one, how much would it cost. and could you just pick one up from the dealer?
ya

mileage on the ECU... goes from 10k and jumps to 25k? i dont tink tats reasonable ahaha i believe the ECU will log this too
Mileage is not stored in the ECU. It's stored in the cluster
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Munch
Originally Posted by hahaitzskippy
Originally Posted by jrv2000
Isnt there a way for the tech's at toyota to find out if you installed a new ecu? .....by the way if someone wanted one, how much would it cost. and could you just pick one up from the dealer?
ya

mileage on the ECU... goes from 10k and jumps to 25k? i dont tink tats reasonable ahaha i believe the ECU will log this too
Mileage is not stored in the ECU. It's stored in the cluster
Na, I drove with my cluster removed while doing the LED mod and for some reason...additional miles were added. If the cluster did this...then it was by ESP.



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