Saw this picture on another post....

http://www.myfruityimage.com/uploads/d0f5fea5cf.jpg

If you read it, it states that they are not responsible for fixing anything if you race it, or overload it?!?!

Now first of all, what do they mean by overloading it? Do they mean turning the boost up?

Secondly, unless you tell them you were at the track when your motor blew out, how are they going to know that you were racing? Does spirited driving on a freeway or highway count as racing?

Anyone have any prior experinces with these issues?

yes spirited driving is considered racing.

the ECU logs everything you do.

and technically. the idea of "driven under normal conditions" is applied

what's the sense then? buy the supercharger and enjoy it on the "normal" drive to work and local coffee shop?

the sense is that you will pay another 3k for bragging rights

of course, its going to be hard for them to tell just how it was "overloaded" unless you do something obvious to it like changing a belt or something

The ECU logs everything done....if the computer reads boost above a set limit, or if the last reading from the ECU was bouncing it off redline, etc. It would probably void the warranty would be my guess

There's ways around that too. Just have a spare ECU like me :lalala:

Now we are definitely gonna hafta buy that tool you bastard lol
Gonna need to reflash both :rofl:

Now we are definitely gonna hafta buy that tool you bastard lol
Gonna need to reflash both :rofl:

I'll call you later about it :lalala: .

what's the sense then? buy the supercharger and enjoy it on the "normal" drive to work and local coffee shop?


just dont spill it.......

Isnt there a way for the tech's at toyota to find out if you installed a new ecu? .....by the way if someone wanted one, how much would it cost. and could you just pick one up from the dealer?

you dont want a brand new ECU it will cost way too much...your better off grabbing one from a junked tC if possible.

All that warranty stuff is pretty standard. Didnt the Mitsi void warranties on Evos when they found out people raced them?

Guys, common. The TRD s/c isn't designed when you first install it to make lots of power. Its only giving you guys 192whp. Its all for show and to give you some go.

If you want power, get a turbo. ZPI is a great place to start for power gains.

Cya

that blower is rated up to about 20 psi...you could easily push out just as much power as a stage 1 ZPI turbo on the ECU reflash with a lil help...pulley, injectors and something to control the injectors(piggyback) and your set :no:

It's just a Caveat so the dealership can save their skin if you really do something malicious with your car.

Like burnouts in revers, doing doughnuts on the freeway, etc.

I'm sure there will be some dealerships who will use this against the customer, but I doubt it will prevent most from getting repairs done to the S/C.

I think the dealership understands owners of the S/C will be jumping off the line at a stop light a little faster, but if you get the S/C and continually redline your automatic instead of *not* driving like an idiot, they have something to quote when you wonder why your engine is broken.

that blower is rated up to about 20 psi...you could easily push out just as much power as a stage 1 ZPI turbo on the ECU reflash with a lil help...pulley, injectors and something to control the injectors(piggyback) and your set :no:

Like i said, when you first install it. Of course it can go up to 20psi, a lot of turbos and superchargers can be upgraded. However, with that $5k spent you could have spent a little less and be putting out more whp. That was my point. :P

Cya

Isnt there a way for the tech's at toyota to find out if you installed a new ecu? .....by the way if someone wanted one, how much would it cost. and could you just pick one up from the dealer?

ya

mileage on the ECU... goes from 10k and jumps to 25k? i dont tink tats reasonable ahaha i believe the ECU will log this too

Isnt there a way for the tech's at toyota to find out if you installed a new ecu? .....by the way if someone wanted one, how much would it cost. and could you just pick one up from the dealer?

ya

mileage on the ECU... goes from 10k and jumps to 25k? i dont tink tats reasonable ahaha i believe the ECU will log this too

Mileage is not stored in the ECU. It's stored in the cluster :lalala:

Isnt there a way for the tech's at toyota to find out if you installed a new ecu? .....by the way if someone wanted one, how much would it cost. and could you just pick one up from the dealer?

ya

mileage on the ECU... goes from 10k and jumps to 25k? i dont tink tats reasonable ahaha i believe the ECU will log this too

Mileage is not stored in the ECU. It's stored in the cluster :lalala:

Na, I drove with my cluster removed while doing the LED mod and for some reason...additional miles were added. If the cluster did this...then it was by ESP.

The ECU also stores other data. If you swapped ECU's right before taking it in for service, they would certainly know. There are counters inside the ECU that track certain things about the smog components, if those counters aren't reading correctly, they'll know somethings fishy.

that's weird, cuz back when I had my corolla, I wanted a tach'd cluster(mine didn't have one), and everyone was talking about incorrect odometer readings, and I still don't think anyone thought about swapping the speedometer(where odometer was). the odometer WAS digital, so it's not a rollover thing.

Now first of all, what do they mean by overloading it? Do they mean turning the boost up?
I think what they mean by overloading is towing.

Isnt there a way for the tech's at toyota to find out if you installed a new ecu? .....by the way if someone wanted one, how much would it cost. and could you just pick one up from the dealer?

ya

mileage on the ECU... goes from 10k and jumps to 25k? i dont tink tats reasonable ahaha i believe the ECU will log this too

Mileage is not stored in the ECU. It's stored in the cluster :lalala:

Na, I drove with my cluster removed while doing the LED mod and for some reason...additional miles were added. If the cluster did this...then it was by ESP.

If you say so bro. I have 3 different clusters for the TC right now with 3 different LED colors. Whatever cluster I put in it. It keeps the mileage that was there, even after diving the car over 1000 miles, it will never jump to a different number. It just goes up normally as if nothing was changed. Maybe my car is a freak but I doubt that :lalala:

Isnt there a way for the tech's at toyota to find out if you installed a new ecu? .....by the way if someone wanted one, how much would it cost. and could you just pick one up from the dealer?

ya

mileage on the ECU... goes from 10k and jumps to 25k? i dont tink tats reasonable ahaha i believe the ECU will log this too

Mileage is not stored in the ECU. It's stored in the cluster :lalala:

Na, I drove with my cluster removed while doing the LED mod and for some reason...additional miles were added. If the cluster did this...then it was by ESP.

If you say so bro. I have 3 different clusters for the TC right now with 3 different LED colors. Whatever cluster I put in it. It keeps the mileage that was there, even after diving the car over 1000 miles, it will never jump to a different number. It just goes up normally as if nothing was changed. Maybe my car is a freak but I doubt that :lalala:

Hmmm. I could have sworn it logged the few miles I did.

If this is the case, then that is a huge problem from the governments standpoint. I can disconnect the cluster every other month and drive for a month and have a real low mileage TC. :rofl:

Hmmm. I could have sworn it logged the few miles I did.

If this is the case, then that is a huge problem from the governments standpoint. I can disconnect the cluster every other month and drive for a month and have a real low mileage TC. :rofl:

I never thought about it that way, but that's the way it is.

Read the Moss act on SEMA's web page.

Its on them to prove whatever happen to the car is the cars' fault or the part you installed' fault.

Basically find a dealership that will work with you.

If a dealeris used to selling aftermarket parts, then they'll be alot more helpful to you than a dealership that doesn't deal with this type of thing very often.

Also I think it would be stupid for Toyota to think that these S/C kit equiped cars would be driven hard to some degree but as a Galpin Ford rep said at the SEMA show today, its mostly DRIVER ERROR that casues car/part failure.

If your REALLY concerned about your warranty don't do anything to your car....

If not, arm yourself with the Moss act, read it and find a dealer that will help you if your current one won't.

One final thing -

Since CARB and the CHP are cracking down, its not an option for US out on the left coast to go and buy a ZPI turbo kit. In the end the TRD kit will make about as much power at high rpm (based on the turbo specs) with modification.

That might void your warranty but if you modified the so-called tamper proof cover for the pulley then, you didn't care about having one in the first place.