I'm supposed to meet with the regional SET rep next week. I'll be interested to see if they can actually fix it.

I have rattles coming from everywhere. It's like I'm driving an oversized can of spraypaint. I remember right after getting my car, a Toyota mechanic on here said it was a rattle-trap.. he was dead on.

Anyway, anyone have any luck? Rather it be a settlement, buy back, or replacement?

This rattling is getting annoying and after 8 visits to the deaer, I'm losing my patience.

Oh well, at least there giving me a loaner in the meantime.

 

Best of luck to you. Your headaches are just beginning I'm afraid . I just fired my lemon lawyer because the process takes some time and I just cant stand the car any more. I'll have a new in a couple of weeks.

 

Wow sorry to hear about that guys... Do you have 05's or 06's..? With my 06 I have been lucky and not a single noise so far... but have not had it that long...

 

I have an '05. It was the first FM with a M/T delivered to my area last June. It passed the 20K mark today...

It's just soooo annoying. I've been patient (16 months and counting...)

 

How in the F*** do ya'll think you're gonna get someone to believe that the tC is a lemon just becuase it rattles a little? And don't tell me, "oh you don't understand, it rattles everywhere!".... ya'll just need to grow up, go back to your lexus' and bmw's you were driving before.

I have over 15k on my car with one f'n rattle, it is seriously no big damn deal!! Ya'll have never ridden in an actual rattle trap like my previous car.

Jesus... i am still in awe that you think your tC is a lemon just becuase it rattles... god help us.

BTW, i have an '05 tC with a manual transmission, and have had zero problems.

 

Actually if it rattles bad "you have no idea how bad there rattles are" then it should be considered a lemon technically. I know if my car rattled like a paint can I would be raising hell also. And for your info my last 6 -10 cars never rattles and they cost from $2k - $30K and none were bmw's, all toyota's

 

want a cookie?

Not everyone has been that fortunate, and I don't care what a car costs, it shouldn't sound like it's going to fall apart before your eyes with so few miles. I have 6000 miles and my car has five or six DIFFERENT rattles. The roof pops when I go up my driveway, I've already had one roof panel break (that only cost my insurance $2500 to fix).

Just because you've been fortunate doesn't mean we all have. Don't be so blind as to think that just because Toyota's reputation is as good as it is that there won't be problems.

 

Lemon law arbitration is a really hard thing to follow through with. If it doesn't cost you a lot of money, it's going to cost you a lot of time. Lemon laws also usually have to be something mechanical, or has to be proven to be somehow a safety issue (like the rattle causes you to lose concentration). But you have to remember that you are hiring a town or city lawyer in most cases, and the two of you will be going to arbitration with someone from Toyota Motor Corporation. They hire some of the best law firms to represent them no matter how big or small the case because they simply have the expendable cash to do so. I would love to take my issues that way, the scion experience techs are great, helping me out, but unfortunately after the 6th time of taking my car in, the problem has only gotten worse. And it is really frusturating. I always hear people b*tching on here about how you need to "get in your lexus" , or "buy your BMWs" (if you remember the 318ti, that car was only $18,000 and it didn't rattle like my 9month old tC, 7years after it was built) ; but the bottom line about it is, that when you spend $18,000 on a car, no matter what kind of car it is, you don't expect it to sound like your car is falling apart everytime you hit a bump or hit the brakes to hard. I love my car, its great, but I'd love it a lot more if it didn't sound like a 10 year old VW. The best bet if you really can't stand the rattles is to sell the car. With how high the residual value on the tCs are, most everyone is going to come out on top right now, losing only a few hundred to a thousand dollars. Hopefully someone will buy it who doesn't mind inferior workmanship.

 

temperatures have been dropping around here and the rattles are coming out to play. During the hot months, the rattles went away, but now they want to come out hibernation and play. Well its not so much a rattle but more of a clunk. My dad's old highlander starting from 30k miles to 110k had a really really bad hatch rattle. I would say that the rattle is coming from the metal that is shrinking so you might try and get bigger rubber paddings around the trunk area to keep the metal in place. I am going to try this later.

 

So you fired your lawyer.. How did you get a new car without the lemon law?

 

Oh no, I meant I'm selling it private party via local ads etc. And then getting a new car by shopping around. I am taking a loss, which I dont mind at this point. It will be money well spent (loss) to keep my sanity in check.

 

I am considering the Lemon Law myself. My friend did it with his 2004 Maxima, he won, and got a new 05 Maxima in its place. My car not only has a rattle coming from somewhere, but my sunroof doesn't work properly. The only way I can close it is to reach out the drivers side window and hold down the wind deflector, then close the roof. Once it's closed and I reach 55mph, it starts to whistle loudly. It makes it a miserable time to drive on the highway. The faster I go, the louder the whistle. I am bringing the car in for the third time to have this looked at next Thursday. The past 2 times I was told this was normal wind noise.....whatever. My friends Kia doesn't do it, so why should my Toyota. Here in CT, you need to have it serviced 4 times before you can do the Lemon Law. We'll see how it goes. I'm just starting to hate my car, which sucks.

 

Hm no clue so many peopel had that many problems with the car, so far I only have a very mild rattle that you can only hear when the music is totaly off and my fifth gear the shifter moves a little bit when i let go of the gas and give it gas. I was planning on spending a lot of money on the car within the next few months but now i think ill wait to see if something else goes wrong...Hope things work out for you guys

 

I guess part of the frustration is that I like the car. It's a newer car and people are very interested to see it and ride it in.. but it's embarassing to get someone in it and it to sound like ****. Scion should be embarrased for me and for themselves.

Since my 5th visit, I stopped doing anything to it. When I first bought it, I washed it every other week and waxed every other month. Had upgrades on back order. Since then, I run it through a quick car wash every three months. I cancelled my order. I no longer have any pride in this car.

This car was way below my budget in the first place, but I got it because I'm more of an enthusiast than anything and this car would have been a keeper otherwise.

As for nchyflyer's comments- I would never expect to buy a new car and to have these kind of problems.. ever. I can and will be buying a new car soon either way, rather it be the new IS350 or the G35.. But I'm still ____ed that this car- one I was so excited about and waited for 3 months without a car until the release date- is so dissappointing.. I have always loved and trusted Toyotas and was excited about the prospect of Scions.

And trust me, I know what a rattle trap is.. I've owned a few beaters in my life.. and this is still the worst noise maker I've ever had... by far.

You might be happy with sub-standard quality and receiving BS answers instead of solutions. Your expectations are low probably because you don't know any better, or maybe you are the kind of guy that dates the ugly chick because you think you can't do any better... well I can and will.

 

Sorry to hear about the car.

Mine has only had the hatch...and well...I can accept that since I subject the poor thing to more bass than should be expected

Hopefully you can get everything straightened out....the new IS250s are nice...boss picked one up the other day

 

Except that you already gutted your whole car and scion wont take any responsibility of the rattle .. or maybe yours is rattle proof now!

 

This is a lawyer telling you guys to grow up, stop whining, and get real. Minor problems that, in many cases, were contributed to or created by the owner (by installing things or having things installed) do NOT entitle you to a new car. Get over it, and stop sullying Toyota's reputation by whining about nothing.

 

He's not saying they are ALL lemons, he's talking about HIS car. There's a reason that the Lemon Law exists. With mass production, there is bound to be some problems that are individual in nature. Taking hundreds of parts from different manufacturers and putting them all together will not always come out the same. It's not like software that everyone gets the same copy of and a problem would affect everyone. The fact that your car doesn't have problems is irrelevant to the problems he is having.

 

Youre not a very smart lawyer. Thats coming from an engineer who is learning to manage quality and assembly lines by the way.

 

That is very nice and completely irrelevant to whether rattles would cause a person's tC to be considered a "lemon" under any law. The fact that a person is not satisfied with his or her vehicle does not make it a "lemon." If you knew much about the law, you would know that the fact that rattles are commonplace DOES matter; that's why, even if you had multiple rattles, it would be hard to prove that this is a "defect" if it is commonplace in the industry. This is one of the many reasons that it would be difficult to succeed on the types of claims you all are discussing.

What do you know about this area of the law -- or any area of the law, for that matter?