View Full Version : Taiya hiparu (translation; streching of the tire)


velocitybb
04-11-2004, 05:17 PM
Wassup to errbody to Scionlife. I am a newbee to scion life, but know that the bB is a popluar car from Japan. I wanted to know if anybody knows a tire/rim shop around the North Couny area that could put a 18x8.5 rim on a 215/35/18 tire? Or a 205/35/18? U think it is not possible, but it is. In Japan right now, that style of putting small tires on rim is popluar in Japan. holla!

VelocitybB

DJ_X_Trodinaire
04-11-2004, 05:23 PM
op8r has strethed tires

www.scionlife.com?Opr8r

Opr8r
04-11-2004, 06:51 PM
There are some tire places up here in the bay area that will do that. I love the stretched tire look! 8)

Peace,
m@

projxB
04-11-2004, 07:16 PM
I love the stretched tire look! 8)

Peace,
m@

word

Minsk99
04-11-2004, 09:17 PM
I have a 205 on a 8" rim. After trying for like an hour to get one of my tires on, the guy mounting them went out and borrowed a machine called a cheetah. Let me tell you that anyplace that got one of these could probably stretch a rubber-band on a 10" wide rim. A cheetah is basically a compressed tank of air that literally blows the tire on with one shot. A 205 on a 8.5" would be no problem. I got my tires mounted at Discount Tires in LA. Not sure if they got DT up where you are, but if you call ahead I bet most tire places would be able to hook it up.

Alter_Ego
04-12-2004, 02:54 AM
Minsk is exactly right. I used to manage at a Discount and we would use a cheetah for getting tires on too wide of wheels. Pretty cool to use or see someone doing it.

CRxB
04-12-2004, 04:24 AM
Question??? I'm just wondering why you would strech it? Is there an advantage or disadvantage in doing this?

Thanks,
Hubert

DJ_X_Trodinaire
04-12-2004, 12:22 PM
its like a lifestyle in japan VIP look

so you can have deeeeeeeeeeep dish pizza! err i mean wheels! :lol:

2fixA
04-12-2004, 01:54 PM
yeah, it's all about looks with this mod, unless stretching it does something to the sidewalls? It may produce a stiffer ride because of less sidewall travel (does that make sense)?

Spider13
04-12-2004, 03:39 PM
New infinity G35 comes with the tires pretty streched on it. That was the first time I had seen it, Let me tell you curbs are hell when there is no rubber hanging over the side of the rim

kagero79
04-14-2004, 10:55 AM
Just to drop an opinion from Japanese guy. Those styles are changing right now, since influence from U.S. is getting strong such as what they call "supo-con" (meaning sport compact for short) I think its all about being different. I got 215/35/18 on my 18"x8 axis spider, I don't dig the streched look, and I even hate it when I gotta becareful not to get close to the curb or slowing down on crossing rail roads or bumps

Scionic
04-16-2004, 07:07 PM
but is there any safety issues with it like a coming off when cornering hard or hitting really harsh road conditions?

xB_ey
04-16-2004, 07:26 PM
but is there any safety issues with it like a coming off when cornering hard or hitting really harsh road conditions?

...who cares about that...did you check out kagero's sig...lets talk about the sake... :wink:

jonbee
04-16-2004, 08:26 PM
sake eh?

me and my girl distribute bonzai and wine of japan sakes in northern california, bay area, sf especially.

kagero you ever need anything upscale for your restaurant just holler :)

kagero79
04-16-2004, 11:06 PM
We are pretty much HOOKED UP with sake :lol: We carry some rare sake that's only available at our restaurant in West Coast, most of what we get goes to East Coast, mostly to NY, end up at upscale hotels & restaurants. When it comes to sake, we don't mess around! (should I be proud of that!?) 8) Most expensive I have is like $300 bottle sake (1.8L bottle) and they only make limited number of them.

ScionVan
04-28-2004, 08:37 PM
People usually have this misconception that stretched tires will roll off the bead, but on the contrary, stretching a tire gives you exceptional sidewall stiffness, and imo, it increases your threshold range. As for the whole argument about hitting curbs, I honestly NEVER plan on hitting any curbs, and with stretched tires, I'm just that much more careful. I figure if I'm bad enough to ever curb a rim, even if it had fatty, non-stretched tires, I deserve to live with the shame of curbing those wheels! >HAHA<

Hey jon... you guys deal with sake? Hmmmm, we need to work out some sort of exchange arrangement :)

EL_PAALO
04-28-2004, 11:28 PM
Here are 195's on 10" wide wheels.
http://wheelspecs.com/albums/Stoopid-Pics/aao.jpg

TheRedBox
04-28-2004, 11:33 PM
:shock:

mikochu
04-29-2004, 12:04 AM
Here are 195's on 10" wide wheels.
http://wheelspecs.com/albums/Stoopid-Pics/aao.jpg


are both of those already stretched?

EL_PAALO
04-29-2004, 01:18 AM
They're fully mounted and inflated if that's what you mean.

DoNuT
04-29-2004, 01:20 AM
Looks pretty ugly to me. But hey, different people, different styles...

projxB
04-29-2004, 01:32 AM
Here are 195's on 10" wide wheels.
http://wheelspecs.com/albums/Stoopid-Pics/aao.jpg


are both of those already stretched?

damn those are sexy.. they yours??

neckbonenick
04-29-2004, 01:35 AM
isn't that dangerous?

EL_PAALO
04-29-2004, 03:22 AM
Hell no, I wouldn't run that.

OKIHost
04-29-2004, 03:22 AM
1 word




























fugly :lol:

but in all seriousness whatever floats your boat...

jonbee
04-29-2004, 07:01 PM
damn those 10s are ill, my scion neeeds those!!!


van.. i could have you drinking, bathin and brushing your teeth in sake and still never run out of it for like a year :lol:

dgHotLava
04-29-2004, 07:09 PM
uuuhhhhhhh.....




that would be a big no way!

ncscion
04-30-2004, 04:22 AM
to me that looks like ___ but a little less stretch would be banging. what size tire would i need for a 17x7 to get stretch (minimal)? also does this effect the ride quality?

Opr8r
04-30-2004, 05:03 AM
One word: RAD


No real need for stretched tires unless you've got the right width/offset happening though.


Peace,
m@

EL_PAALO
04-30-2004, 08:16 PM
to me that looks like ___ but a little less stretch would be banging. what size tire would i need for a 17x7 to get stretch (minimal)? also does this effect the ride quality?

size??????
Makes the sidewalls stiff as hell. It'll definately affect ride quality.

DjFrOsT
04-30-2004, 08:30 PM
after readin this entire thread...i still dont understand why you would strech the tire like that...can anyone give a straight forward answser?

EL_PAALO
04-30-2004, 10:47 PM
Makes the sidewalls extremely stiff = zero flex = very predictable = reason some drifters use setups like this.
More often than not though, people just do it for looks.

Crab_Spirits
05-31-2004, 02:36 PM
Makes the sidewalls extremely stiff = zero flex = very predictable = reason some drifters use setups like this.
More often than not though, people just do it for looks.
That's right, that's why I use that setup.
http://home.comcast.net/~movistar323/afterside2.jpg
BTW, I get a MORE compliant ride with those 235/45/17's than a 245/40/17. It is not THAT brutal.

Opr8r-Your box looks sick. I'm new here and I was thinking of getting Plaisir Virtue 17's by Heart Villiage in a similar offset as yours for my WHITE xB. Thinking nobody on here would be as bold :roll: .

The Virtue looks exactly like the Euroline N's. Since we're going to be rolling almost identical boxes, I suggest you PM me with a price so I can just buy your setup off you. :D

Opr8r
06-01-2004, 09:09 PM
Makes the sidewalls extremely stiff = zero flex = very predictable = reason some drifters use setups like this.
More often than not though, people just do it for looks.
That's right, that's why I use that setup.
http://home.comcast.net/~movistar323/afterside2.jpg
BTW, I get a MORE compliant ride with those 235/45/17's than a 245/40/17. It is not THAT brutal.

Opr8r-Your box looks sick. I'm new here and I was thinking of getting Plaisir Virtue 17's by Heart Villiage in a similar offset as yours for my WHITE xB. Thinking nobody on here would be as bold :roll: .

The Virtue looks exactly like the Euroline N's. Since we're going to be rolling almost identical boxes, I suggest you PM me with a price so I can just buy your setup off you. :D

Cool ride dude! Gotta keep the N's though. heheh.


Peace,
m@

velocitybb
06-06-2004, 02:45 PM
Sum people do the stretch look for style and others do it the stiffness it provides. Op8r's look is tight. (A true VIPer, thats what I called them. A note I am a VIPer too). If you go to Japan, you'll see alot of cars with the stretch look (luxury sedans, VIP wagons, drift cars, and K-Cars).

Milhamscion
06-06-2004, 03:17 PM
:roll: