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Toyota Scion xB 4-DR - 18% chance of roll over. 2nd highest on the list.

4 stars on everything else except the driver side crash rating (a 3).

I haven't seen this posted here yet, apologies if it was.

Yeah I know . . . I have rolled in my box several times, lol.

My wife rolls in her's every day, while dropping phat beatz.

Holy crap, that rollover percentage sounds pretty bad...well, it is a box on wheels, but I didn't think you could get it going fast enough to roll it... :


Here are the links to detailed reviews of the tests, complete with pix of the poor Crash Test Dummies before and after. Looks like your knees are fugged if you get hit in an xB.

Front-impact
http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf93/353198_web.pdf
Side-impact
http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/p82/361273.pdf

That's pretty good. High chance of rollover but it still receives a 4-star like everyone else except the G6. The G6 is also wider and lower than the xB so it makes sense. BTW, the xB is the only one in that list with standard VSC or at least the cheapest vehicle with standard stability control.

I'm too old to roll over myself or anyone or anything else LOL but I looked at the test results and I didn't find anywhere that the car was roll tested. By the way, we have 2 5 speed 2005 xBs, both with the Hotchkis stability bar under the hood and I take highway tight cloverleafs at upto 65 MPH and the sucker doesn't lean at all - I do but not the xB.

Rvie safely this holiday weekend and all the time.

Alan in the Yellow Sub!

I'm assuming that since these are crash tests, they don't measure the likelihood of rolling your xB when leaning hard into a corner. Most likely it's whether or not it will get rolled over when hit by another vehicle. If that's the case, than I would imagine a side impact by one of those Ford Expeditions with a high center mass, would probably roll it pretty easily (tall and light target).

So go ahead and drive fast into the corners, just stay away from the drunk soccer mom's chatting away on the cell phone while they beat their kids in the back seat.

it's like rolling a die, literally!

The rollover number is a calculated probability--they don't do any rollover testing. They just take data like the weight of the vehicle, height, center of gravity, etc. and plug it into a computer program to get the rollover percent. It doesn't take into account the engineering of the vehicle--suspension design, stability control, or anything like that.

the little asterisk says "when involved in a singe vehicle crash.."
I guess I can see that, but as far as rollover during hard maneuvering... I throw that little car into the turns and I've never even seen the stability control light come on. I drove the mountains between Newport, Tennessee and Ashville, North Carolina at a continuous 75-80 mph. I scared my passengers once or twice, but never felt like the car was unstable.

God, no car should roll over during hard cornering. That would just be sloppy design. Roll-overs usually occur during accident avoidance, like when you slam the wheel hard and run over on a median or into a ditch or something.

how about doing e-brake 180s? anyone ever do them in the XB?

i do when it's raining..........i've never rolled. it's actually the easiest car i've 180'd

From
http://www.safercar.gov/Rollover/pages/faqs.htm#asaconsumer
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5. How should I interpret NHTSA's combined rollover resistance rating for model years 2004 and later?

The rollover resistance rating system for model years 2004 and later predicts a vehicle's chance of rollover in single-vehicle crashes by combining: (1) an at-rest laboratory measurement known as the Static Stability Factor (SSF) which determines how top-heavy a vehicle is, and (2) the results of a dynamic maneuvering test that determines how susceptible the vehicle is to an on-road un-tripped rollover.

About 95% of rollovers are tripped - meaning the vehicle strikes something low, such as a curb or shallow ditch, causing it to tip over. The Static Stability Factor (SSF) is specifically designed to measure this more common type of rollover and thus plays a significantly larger role in a vehicle's star rating (for model years 2004 and later) than the results of the dynamic maneuvering test.

The SSF rating and the tip or no tip results of a vehicle's dynamic maneuvering test are combined into one overall rollover star rating. A separate star rating for the individual tests is not given. However, the results for individual tests, where available, can be viewed on the test details web page for each vehicle in the 5-Star Crash Test and Rollover Ratings section of www.safercar.gov.

Vehicles with a No tip* result were not actually subjected to the dynamic test. Results from these vehicles are imputed (assigned) based on the testing of passenger cars with lower Static Stability Factors (SSFs) that did not tip up during the dynamic test. NHTSA will periodically test passenger cars to validate imputed results.

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Then, a chart and stuff follows, explaining the statistics further.

My car was hit on the rear right side door and it flipped over. So what does this mean? not very safe I would guess. Now I have to deal with my crappy insurance who wont consider this a total lost. Anyone want to buy it. Does anyone have any suggestions? I bought this car June 2003 the first month it came out.http://www.geocities.com/kef_kevin/05-31-06_0820.jpg[/color]

Well, ANY car can roll if it gets hit just right. Did you get hurt in the accident?

The police officer at the scene told me he never seen a crash like this one, he mentioned that most are t-boned? My back was hurt, the seat belt worked good but I had a hard time opening the door since it much heavier trying to pop open like a hatch and climb out.

Just flip it over, good as new!

looks pretty damned good for rolling over.

if you slam an xB 3 or more inches I bet the rollover risk is MUCH , MUCH less.

ouch

As is the case with much of what we read/hear, the rollover ratings must be put in context.

Yes, at 18 percent the xB has the worst rating in the passenger car category. But, what else should we expect from what is probably the tallest of the so-called 'cars'?

By comparison, those vehicles classified as 'SUVs' run from 14 through 25 percent in rollover probability, the Chevrolet HHR being the lowest. 'Vans' run from 13-30 percent.

By the way, the Honda Element has not been rated.

So, if one compares our category-defying xB to all vehicles, the 18 percent isn't quite as bad as it seems.

To view a chart of the NHTSA info, go to http://www.dot.gov/affairs/nhtsa0306.htm

Ahhhh... too cute... the xB in the picture above looks like it's just sleeping. :silly:

But seriously, people used to ask me all the time about the TJ (newest model)Wrangler and its rollover rate. "Aren't they easy to roll?" Jeep had specifically widened the wheelbase on the YJs and TJs just to address this issue that gave the CJs such a bad rap. (I had a CJ as well.)
I told them that a drunken teenager could roll ANY vehicle.

The main problem with those was cutting the steering wheel back and forth like you might do in an accident avoidance manuever. I'm sure you could probably get the thing to roll that way. But I could take that Jeep around curves like nobody's business (especially using the techniques I learned from autocrossing and road courses.... don't try this at home) I expect the xB will be even better than the Jeep in that respect. So just drive it and try not to hit any curbs <G>

Tim

I've heard of at least 2 boxes hit by cars going in excess of 80mph, rolling the boxes, and everyone coming out w/only minor scrapes and bruises. The other thing in common with these two wrecks, not a single window in either box was busted.


Why in the world would that accident up there be a total loss? There's about 2-3k worth of paint and body work, and there shouldn't be a bit of frame damage, it just looks like the side on the ground would be scratched and dented.

As is the case with much of what we read/hear, the rollover ratings must be put in context.

Yes, at 18 percent the xB has the worst rating in the passenger car category. But, what else should we expect from what is probably the tallest of the so-called 'cars'?

By comparison, those vehicles classified as 'SUVs' run from 14 through 25 percent in rollover probability, the Chevrolet HHR being the lowest. 'Vans' run from 13-30 percent.

By the way, the Honda Element has not been rated.

So, if one compares our category-defying xB to all vehicles, the 18 percent isn't quite as bad as it seems.

To view a chart of the NHTSA info, go to http://www.dot.gov/affairs/nhtsa0306.htm

I was going to mention this. So the SSR is considered an SUV but he xB is still a passenger car? I wonder what the qualifiers are? EPA ratings for interior volume and weight?

I'm not worried about my xB rolling at all.

Yeah that xB looks like its sleeping. It looks like it isn't a total loss. So is the xB safe? From evry1 else's opinion.

Got any better pics of the left side of that rollover? The door looks like it was hit really low as the top of the door still looks like a perfect fit and no broken glass. I'd say the box held up to that impact pretty well. Almost looks like the tow truck was having some fun and stuck his arm underneath the frame and flipped it. If your right side wheels were right up against the curb and you got smacked while waiting for the light to change the wheels/tires would have no where to slide to and that may have caused the Box to flip pretty easily.

Ok, That's not funny. Sorry to see the Box laying like that, but in a way it actually looks kinda peaceful!

Sunbeam---OUCH!! See a lawyer (read pain suffering-suffering pain). Buy a new box and fix the old one with the procedes...............

what impresses me is that the body didn't flex enough to even pop out the windowz...rather sturdy me thinks..

member of the 2 box club :P

Im not allowed to discuss the accident per my lawyer. I called my claim dept she thinks its over $7000 damage. I moved the car away
from their body shop now I'm hearing from my auto shop that they are trying to be cheap. I moved the car because my insurance and their auto shop keep telling me lies! When i went to their auto shop it seemed like he had 20 cars (like older junkie cars) that looked like they have been sitting there for months and all his workers looked like they were still in high school.
I have a lawyer and doctor just waiting to hear what going to happen.

You can take your car to any shop you like for repair. Sometimes you get a better guaranty on work if you use an approved shop, but if you have a shop you trust you can use them. You are approaching half the value, so it may be a total. Make sure they don't try to lowball you on the replacement price if it comes to that. Good Luck and keep us posted.

Lucky that you are in Cali. Great body and paint shops are like Starbucks there.

I autox my box so I　ｗｉｌｌ　ｇｅｔ　ａｎｙ　ｈｉｇｈｅｒ　ｃｈａｎｃｅ　ｏｒ　ｒｏｌｌ　ｏｖｅｒ？

Since you autox and got the proper suspension, then I highly doubt it prolly drops the percentage to > 7%. By proper suspension , I meant coilovers...

The data looks a little shady, it says our cars have all wheel drive.