the moderators moved this to a forum I can't post in (haha, good one :tap: ), except by editing this post, sooo...

easy, people, easy, you're taking my opinion far too seriously...besides, ya won me over...lowering is good! Great! GRAND! happy? sheesh. :P

sorry, but they do; the charm of the vehicle is completely ruined...also, I've yet to see a custom grill that looks better than the stock grill, yet, it seems people just can't wait to take that stock grill off...and removing the badges, WHY??

I've seen many good mods on here, but I've also seen things that defy aesthetical sense.

Well, I guess ugliness is a sure way to make your car stand out.

I agree... many of these mods look like crap... New wheels really make a nice improvement... most other mods make it look like spoiled rice.

How does lowering your car make it ulgy??? :rofl: As for me my personal preference is for an xB to be lowered because it gets rid of the gap between the fender and wheel plus you get a better ride with different springs. No more body roll and it handles better.

As for the Grille I think people change them out because they want all three grills to match. Plus modding the car is personalizing it for someone.

To each his/her own....

I agree - I have yet to see any grill that looks better than stock. I don't mind lowering, as long as the car isn't lowered to the point where the wheels and tires protrude into the wheel wells. There should be minimal fender gap, not none at all.

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only person who doesn't like the lowered look. In fact, I don't really like it on most cars. It's not bad if it's a small drop, but I've seen some that look like something is broken. As for the grill on the xB, we have a RS 2.0 so I'm used to a different grill. I like ours.

Styling is an individual preference. You may not like what I did to my car, but some might. Don't come down on someone because they have different styling tastes than you.

Some like chrome, some don't. Some like JDM, some don't. Some like ViP, some don't. Some like DuBs, some don't. Some like airbags, some don't. Some like cf, some don't. I can go on and on.......................................

No one here, that I know, has beaucoup money to spend on parts thsat they want right now. Modding is a constant evolution. They have other priorities in life such as their family, maybe a mortgage, and other things.

Do I care? No. Why? Because I paid for MY parts, I pay for MY car, and I drive MY car.

Spoiled rice!?! Do you know what spoiled rice looks like? Its covered in mold prolly. I haven't seen any cars on this site covered in mold.

I just love it when others criticize, yet they don't post on pics of their rides, and what they consider tasteful.

Once again, Styling is an individual preference!

Good Post Squirrel :clap:

Cars may look like crap when they are lowered, the front may be more than the back, or that the left is lower than the right, etc. etc.

This is why the car should be slammed and hammered to ground level so everything is even. Even rotten old cars laying frame looks awesome. :silly:

:yawn:

:clap: :clap: I agree with Brad (squirrel), everyone has different tastes, if you don't like a certain Mod than just don't do it to your car..... :lalala:

P.S. I LOVE lowered xB's... :P

there's supposed to be a gap between the fender and wheel, there's supposed to be a gap between the car and pavement, it's called clearance

as for the argument that it makes the xB perform better...since when is this a performance car? It's a box on wheels.

Every car should have "performance"...not high performance, but performance...

Its great that you don't like lowered xB's....I suggest you don't do it then...

problem solved

::this should be the end of this waste of space and the waste of 20 seconds of my life reading this that I though would have some "matter" behind it::

sorry, but they do; the charm of the vehicle is completely ruined...also, I've yet to see a custom grill that looks better than the stock grill, yet, it seems people just can't wait to take that stock grill off...and removing the badges, WHY??

I've seen many good mods on here, but I've also seen things that defy aesthetical sense.

Well, I guess ugliness is a sure way to make your car stand out.

I mean, not only by sheer looks - I feel that functionality is another reason why some mods are crazy.

I can never imagine lowering my xB to have it hover an inch or two above ground. Imagine hitting a pot hole!!!

I live in NYC and I am currently driving an h2. There are bumps here that I think would TOTAL an xB... Not even road conditions - how about a piece of debris? a garbage bag? half an animal on the road??!?!?

But then again - there are people who live in areas where they may not have this issue and in this case, lowering the vehicle is not a problem.

Yeah, I have clearance, about a pinky fingers' worth! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Why, because my xB is lowered! :doh:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/886motorwerx/f0cd0588.jpg

Oh yeah, and I really like the grille I bought, painted, and installed on MY LOWERED xB!

Styling is an individual preference. You may not like what I did to my car, but some might. Don't come down on someone because they have different styling tastes than you.

Some like chrome, some don't. Some like JDM, some don't. Some like ViP, some don't. Some like DuBs, some don't. Some like airbags, some don't. Some like cf, some don't. I can go on and on.......................................

No one here, that I know, has beaucoup money to spend on parts thsat they want right now. Modding is a constant evolution. They have other priorities in life such as their family, maybe a mortgage, and other things.

Do I care? No. Why? Because I paid for MY parts, I pay for MY car, and I drive MY car.

Spoiled rice!?! Do you know what spoiled rice looks like? Its covered in mold prolly. I haven't seen any cars on this site covered in mold.

I just love it when others criticize, yet they don't post on pics of their rides, and what they consider tasteful.

Once again, Styling is an individual preference!

I dont think anyone in here is being as critical as you are. You just stated what everyone else stated, opinions. Your the one coming into a thread thats talking about personal opinions and then you start bashing on those opinions.
I think it's cool if someone wants to change out the grills for something differant, however I wont because every single grill replacement out there looks like a domestic truck grill IMO. I like the lower stock grills, I think it would be cooler if the top grill between the headlights matched the botton two, but I've yet to see an aftermarket grill that matches.
One thing I dont agree is with that stupid comment about spoiled rice, what the heck is that suppose to mean? But than again I dont agree with the term 'rice'. My Brother has a 2003 Hyundai Tiburon with a wide body kit (yes its painted) and 19in. ADR wheels, and I dont think thats rice, but for some reason all of those anti-rice websites classify it as rice. The only thing I consider rice is an unpainted body kit, a spoiler that shouldnt be on the car (hmm, i dont think the xB needs a spoiler at all...), a ___ body kit (honestly, i've yet to see a body kit on the xB that doesnt look ___), any kind of aftermarket air scoop intake that is non functional.
What makes all of these tuned xB's any differant from a 'riced' Civic? I think people should stop using the term 'rice' because it makes them sound like an idiot. Rice is food, not a screwed up car.
When it comes to lowering the car, IMO dropping it all the way to the ground looks rediculous. I do believe you need a speck of clearence from the tire to the wheel well. I plan on getting a lower suspension, but nothing insane.
If you think its cool to use the term rice, dont think your exempt from it beacuse you own a scion, because believe it or not, scions will be in those ___ antirice websites sooner or later.

sorry, but they do; the charm of the vehicle is completely ruined...also, I've yet to see a custom grill that looks better than the stock grill, yet, it seems people just can't wait to take that stock grill off...and removing the badges, WHY??

I've seen many good mods on here, but I've also seen things that defy aesthetical sense.

Well, I guess ugliness is a sure way to make your car stand out.

Well, the drop and grille replacement seem unnecessary TO ME, but the box looks MUCH better minus the badges. If Scion wanted to pay me SOMETHING to advertise for them, I could leave them on. Otherwise, forget it.

Okay this is a warning to all!

I cleaned this thread up once and I wont do it again. Keep your comments respectful to others and clean. Any bashing, off topic, or bad comments, will result in your post being deleted and yourself warned.

Thanks
Scott

Yay! its back!

I agree with the aftermarket grilles. Many of them look crappy. As far as whether or not to lower an xB- youre gonna be fighting a losing battle with this crowd.

oohhhhh! thats why it dissapeared!

Lowering is not just just for looks it is to help you stay in control of you car better than the stock springs. I got rid of the badges because they made the front end look piggish, and the back end look cluttered. I veiw my car as a reflection of myself, I want it to be an extention of me. I want to be different, I want to be noticed, I dont want the same car that I bought more than a year ago, I want that car NOW, with every bit of charater that it has. I am going to lower, stitch, rebadge, and rewheel my car. I hope you find a way to be different that makes you happy. My way makes me VERY happy. OH, and I am glad that you dont like it, it is a compliment. Thanks

personally, i would not really do to my car what most people here do. i think the xB looks great as it is. i do not have a problem "standing out" from the crowd, but dont really go out of my way to do it either.

i bought this car for its utility and practically everything i have done to it enhances that. (Ok, so maybe all the LEDs may not be as useful..) i did not buy this car to burn tires or bust through corners. i am definitely not going to sacrifice comfort for "performance".

other people put a lot of effort in getting their car to look the way they want. if winning trophies at a car show floats your boat, then great -- its just not for me. i am sure that my car isnt going to win any ribbons, but i love it anyway.

Styling is an individual preference. You may not like what I did to my car, but some might. Don't come down on someone because they have different styling tastes than you.

Some like chrome, some don't. Some like JDM, some don't. Some like ViP, some don't. Some like DuBs, some don't. Some like airbags, some don't. Some like cf, some don't. I can go on and on.......................................

No one here, that I know, has beaucoup money to spend on parts thsat they want right now. Modding is a constant evolution. They have other priorities in life such as their family, maybe a mortgage, and other things.

Do I care? No. Why? Because I paid for MY parts, I pay for MY car, and I drive MY car.

Spoiled rice!?! Do you know what spoiled rice looks like? Its covered in mold prolly. I haven't seen any cars on this site covered in mold.

I just love it when others criticize, yet they don't post on pics of their rides, and what they consider tasteful.

Once again, Styling is an individual preference!

I dont think anyone in here is being as critical as you are. You just stated what everyone else stated, opinions. Your the one coming into a thread thats talking about personal opinions and then you start bashing on those opinions.
I think it's cool if someone wants to change out the grills for something differant, however I wont because every single grill replacement out there looks like a domestic truck grill IMO. I like the lower stock grills, I think it would be cooler if the top grill between the headlights matched the botton two, but I've yet to see an aftermarket grill that matches.
One thing I dont agree is with that stupid comment about spoiled rice, what the heck is that suppose to mean? But than again I dont agree with the term 'rice'. My Brother has a 2003 Hyundai Tiburon with a wide body kit (yes its painted) and 19in. ADR wheels, and I dont think thats rice, but for some reason all of those anti-rice websites classify it as rice. The only thing I consider rice is an unpainted body kit, a spoiler that shouldnt be on the car (hmm, i dont think the xB needs a spoiler at all...), a ___ body kit (honestly, i've yet to see a body kit on the xB that doesnt look ___), any kind of aftermarket air scoop intake that is non functional.
What makes all of these tuned xB's any differant from a 'riced' Civic? I think people should stop using the term 'rice' because it makes them sound like an idiot. Rice is food, not a screwed up car.
When it comes to lowering the car, IMO dropping it all the way to the ground looks rediculous. I do believe you need a speck of clearence from the tire to the wheel well. I plan on getting a lower suspension, but nothing insane.
If you think its cool to use the term rice, dont think your exempt from it beacuse you own a scion, because believe it or not, scions will be in those ___ antirice websites sooner or later.
I think a top grill that looked like the bottom grills would look terrible.... Rice means exactly what you said, including cheap stickers, painted on sunroofs. When you say that you have yet to see a body kit that doesnt look dumb on the xB, have you looked around recently, and are you including lip kits?

:yawn:

Wow, this is a productive thread.

Since is more about aesthetics than handling, refers to other cars and is pointless anyway since it's not like someone is going to "see the light", I'm moving this to Off-Topic...

Yeah, I have clearance, about a pinky fingers' worth! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Why, because my xB is lowered! :doh:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/886motorwerx/f0cd0588.jpg

Oh yeah, and I really like the grille I bought, painted, and installed on MY LOWERED xB!

im not an xb fan, i would never buy one.......but this one is baddass.
i think the majority of the Xb's that ive seen locally look like crap. Im a true beliver if your going to mod a car, do it right or dont do it at all. I think people who dont lower their car is fine, but it looks so much better without a wheel gap, you talking to a guy thought that has always had body dropped bagged chevy's.....

well love it hate it its your opinion, there is really no use explaining that lowering the car enhances handling and not performance, there is really no need to say verbadum that how you mod your car is your own personal preferance, your money, your car, your imagination, so but oops o well looks like i did explain all those things again, well to each his/her own and to me a loss of 1 minute of my life

The people stating that customization is a matter of taste are the ones saying it best. When it comes to matter of "style" I do my best to hold my tongue. Unless it is something absolutely ridiculous. But in the way of choosing to customize using one particular style over another? Forget it. It's just not worth the time and effort.

Everyone has their own taste, and who am I or anyone else to judge them on their taste. What we should do is learn to appreciate the work that goes into the customization, even if we can't consider the work it's self. To be perfectly honest, there hasn't been one xB on this site that I have liked every single modification on. Not one! And there are others that I struggle to find even one modification that I can appreciate aesthetically. But you have to appreciate the effort.

There is no reason to be critical of others on issues that are clearly aesthetic. Performance and safety issues are different. People should speak up in those matters, as they are much more critical to a vehicles drivability and even survivability.

there should be discussion forum for stock scions. I wonder what the post will be?
1st post: My brand new xB
2nd post: cleaning my stock hub caps
3rd post: Compairing my stock xB, to other stock xB.

A.nybody who says lowered xbs is crazy. Yes slammed xbs look dumb but give it a nice 2 inch drop and its pure perfection.

there should be discussion forum for stock scions. I wonder what the post will be?
1st post: My brand new xB
2nd post: cleaning my stock hub caps
3rd post: Compairing my stock xB, to other stock xB.

:rofl: only thing they can compare is which xb is cleaner.

So you don't like lowered cars, your point would be to establish???

Don't lower your xb and move on, i as well others i'm sure don't care what you think. Its our cars, not yours. Think the same way and don't let things bother you.

FYI: Lowering an xb with stiff springs or coilovers improve performance, some believe improve the look (i am one that does), and overall serves as a functional part. Not part of this "rice" theory you are talking about.

Debadging is popular to clean up the appearance of the car. Moving on.

Stock grills look fine without the big, bulky scion emblem IMO. If you like it, rock it. If not, swap it.

This thread might as well be locked because i honestly don't see how this is going to be very useful for newbies to gather information, much less serve any perpose at all except a bunch of people saying they like their lowered xb's. and others saying they don't.

Cya

I'm not sorry, but they don't; the charm of the vehicle isn't completely ruined...also, I've seen custom grills that look better than the stock grill, yet, it seems people just wait to take that stock grill off...and removing the badges, WHY NOT??

I've seen many good mods on here, but I've yet to see things that defy aesthetical sense.

Well, I guess teh hotness is a sure way to make your car stand out.

THERE, I'VE CANCELLED HER OUT!!!! :P :P :P

hahaha ^^that was pretty funny man!

there should be discussion forum for stock scions. I wonder what the post will be?
1st post: My brand new xB
2nd post: cleaning my stock hub caps
3rd post: Compairing my stock xB, to other stock xB.



LMAO.............that is hilarious, dont forget to compare seat postions and what is more comfortable. or what size cups fit in the cup holder.

OP, thank you for your opinion. I personally don't share your opinion but thank your none the less for sharing it.

It's true, the xB is ugly when lowered. When a car comes from the factory it is completely optimized and engineered to perfection. Once you start changing it, it looses something.
Why would anyone want to have trouble getting over speed bumps and pot holes. Just leave your car alone and drive it the way it is.

It's true, the xB is ugly when lowered. When a car comes from the factory it is completely optimized and engineered to perfection. Once you start changing it, it looses something.
Why would anyone want to have trouble getting over speed bumps and pot holes. Just leave your car alone and drive it the way it is.

OH CRAP!!!! How did my Dad get on my SL account!...sneaky ole' man.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

It's true, the xB is ugly when lowered. When a car comes from the factory it is completely optimized and engineered to perfection. Once you start changing it, it looses something.
Why would anyone want to have trouble getting over speed bumps and pot holes. Just leave your car alone and drive it the way it is.

OH CRAP!!!! How did my Dad get on my SL account!...sneaky ole' man.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Seriously! Your pops is too much! But he's got a point about gol-durned tuner whippersnappers, all making their cars ride, handle and look better! Who do they think they are, anyway?!? It makes me so dadburned mad!! Stop doing what you want to your cars or so help me...! :tap: :no:

Lowering the xB doesnt remove the car's "charm". This isnt a VW Beetle! I mean....does this look SO BAD. (I personally think it looks like sex on wheels, for lack of better words).

http://www.onetongarage.com/jays14/forsale/side1.jpg

You know, I was thinking, yes with what is left of my brain.

Lilly (notty) is right. Yes she is.

Lowered xBs are wrong, just plain wrong I tell you.















They need to be SLAMMED!

3.0-3.5 inch drop is perfect. anything less is weak anything more is impractical.

3.0-3.5 inch drop is perfect. anything less is weak anything more is impractical.

Hey darren, i have a 2.2-2.3'' drop. Its not that weak. :P

Cya

i forgot to put before that i have a 1.5-1.8" drop and I live in the friggin mountains and its handles like a dream, granted i have front a rear strut bars, but my lowering it is for complete practicality mixed in with utter sexiness

http://www.scioncandy.com/novxb1.jpg

How can anyone think this is ugly? I think its smooth :eyebrow:

lol just playing, to each their own. and yes its dropped.

I personally think the xB looks like it's lifted on blocks when it's stock. To me it looks like crap with such a huge gap. I'm dropped 2 inches and personally want more. No problems with speed bumps here. All a matter of persoanl taste. Doesn't ruin the car one bit with a nice drop and actually handles better when it's lower and less air pressuse gets under the car when driving therefore changing the whole dynamic. Why do you think professional racers have their cars lowered? For looks? NOPE!

i dislike billet grills but like other grill treatments

Has anyone took out the two bottom stock grills completely to see what it looks like with no grills there? Doesn't seem like it would look that bad.

Cya

it looks like booty hole

lol... this is the worst thread ever... even the title was just begging for flame bait.

But hey might as well be productive:

let's see better than stock grills:
Squirrel's grill looks nice.. especially with the new headlights...
Personally I like the OD grill as well..
and a speed grill doesn't look to bad... I think it looks better than stock.

As for lowering, i really don't care either way. I hate the slammed look, but the I don't see what's wrong with a little lowering. From my POV its simply impractical here.. we have too many potholes (not to mention.. snow).

If you think its cool to use the term rice, dont think your exempt from it beacuse you own a scion, because believe it or not, scions will be in those ___ antirice websites sooner or later.

ah, the irony. objecting to the negative implications of the word "rice" yet using the word "___" pejoratively over and over and over...and over. the cluelessness boggles the mind. it truly does. :clap:

i'm slammed over 3 inc up front nd with 4 fullsize adults inside i've driven my xB in snow and rain so yeah ... weather is not an excuse.

non maintained dirt roads are excuses

CA snow is nothing though or wherever. come to the midwest and tell me that.

my xB is currently outta commission due to snow :cry:

dude. dont drive on the streets til the snow plow does the street first. duh. and u dont know about tahoe snow obviously. we're just on top of that shiznit.

Hmmmmm
The Irony debate between the stock height and lowerd xB :ponder:

First off, the stock springs on our xBs are pretty well stiff IMO. Since I changed my wheel and tires, 17in wheels on 205/45 Federal SupperStreets 905's, I noticed somewhat of improvement on handling, of course that included the strut tower brace also. (BTW stock wheel size is 185/60 on 15" steelies). The wheels though did leave somewhat a pretty big gap between the wheel and fenders. My box looked liked it got lifted. I believed that with a 1.5 to 2 inch drop w/ more stiffer spring in front and back, this would minimized body roll. More body roll can be elliminate if you install anti roll bars or sway bars in the rear. Doing this mod and then call it "Rice" is really politcally incorrect.
Whats Rice? Hup-cap spinners, huge "NON-FUNCTIONAL" wings, Big Exuast that only makes noises, hood scoops that doesn't fuction, Vinyle sticker on your cars of parts that you don't even have or installed, strobe lights, and on........ Basicly IMO, if anyone installs parts that don't have any real fuctions that either improves the performance, handling, or LOOKS, I consider it Rice. :silly:

Ok, so back to my first post on this thread:

So when FnF came out, peeps put those fibreglass and/or aluminum wings/spoilers on their rides because they liked that particaular "styling", yet some now say its "rice". But once again, it what the owner of the car likes, not public opinion.

And then, some work, and save for a body kit, install it, yet, its not painted (because they don't have the money for it yet), nor do they have the money for wheels.

I don't know alot of people who have readily accessible amounts of cash at their disposal to fully trick out a car at any given moment. Thus my comment about modding being an evolution.

My xB went from this in Aug03:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/886motorwerx/6dced415.jpg

To this in Oct05:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/886motorwerx/b60a85bf.jpg

Some say my center exit exhaust in rice, as is my cf Fab style wing and cf double vented hood. Do I care? No, because its my car, and I like the way it looks.

And its lowered on custom height/rate TEIN springs for the TEIN Wagon coilovers.

And the vinyl represents businesses of my friends.

Styling is an individual preference.

Some like chrome, some don't. Some like JDM, some don't. Some like ViP, some don't. Some like DuBs, some don't. Some like airbags, some don't. Some like cf, some don't. I can go on and on.......................................

No one here, that I know, has beaucoup money to spend on parts thsat they want right now. Modding is a constant evolution. They have other priorities in life such as their family, maybe a mortgage, and other things.

Once again, Styling is an individual preference!

Not suppose to be a gap!!!


See no gap looks much better!!
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/659000-659999/659424_129_full.jpg


With gap

http://www.imagineaudio.com/images/scion/big/scion3.jpg

Any questions? lol

Any questions? lol

Yes, I have one. Any new pics on the progress on your suicide doors? :bow:

Geez, you guys sound like you actually think that you'll change his mind...

no unfortunatly I sliced my hand open about 1/2 deep, and wont be working on it for a little while... :)

PS I wasnt working on the xb.

Well I do have new pics and all but if you wanna see them you have to get them over AIM... Im to lazy to host them or e-mal them.

no unfortunatly I sliced my hand open about 1/2 deep, and wont be working on it for a little while... :)

PS I wasnt working on the xb.

OUCH! Get well soon!

I won't be working on my xB for a while either. Ligament repair in the wrist, carpal tunnel repair, and ligament replacement in the elbow, all on the right side.

no unfortunatly I sliced my hand open about 1/2 deep, and wont be working on it for a little while... :)

PS I wasnt working on the xb.

OUCH! Get well soon!

I won't be working on my xB for a while either. Ligament repair in the wrist, carpal tunnel repair, and ligament replacement in the elbow, all on the right side.

Your just asking for trouble by posting that in OT but I wont say anthing ... cuase my right hands fugged up too...

yeah im going to be lowering my box soon i love takeing Sepulvada at 65+ mph i cant wait to start going 80+ mph

no unfortunatly I sliced my hand open about 1/2 deep, and wont be working on it for a little while... :)

PS I wasnt working on the xb.

OUCH! Get well soon!

I won't be working on my xB for a while either. Ligament repair in the wrist, carpal tunnel repair, and ligament replacement in the elbow, all on the right side.

Your just asking for trouble by posting that in OT but I wont say anthing ... cuase my right hands fugged up too...

I did it at work also. Arresting/physical confrontation w/ a 25 year old Parolee, who ran from me. He had 12 rocks, a loaded Ak-47 mag, and $2k in cash.

That is just like saying ladies don't look good skinny.

Most men would disagree, but a few of them would go along with that statement.

The moral of this post is everybody thinks what looks good can vary alot,so with that said i think the xb looks great lowered.

smartass your xb is bad ___ i agree with the gap

i have a q... why is the shot with the gap a low angle shot?

lol i'm not accusing or anything but... shouldnt the shots be taken from at least the relative same perspective for an accurate comparison?

come see it in person ill lower and raise it for yea right there.... I just didnt have any other pics hosted anywhere.

^^beleive me,ive seen it in person, its a big gap, considering he is tucking 20's

the moderators moved this to a forum I can't post in (haha, good one :tap: ), except by editing this post, sooo...

easy, people, easy, you're taking my opinion far too seriously...besides, ya won me over...lowering is good! Great! GRAND! happy? sheesh. :P

Why can't you post in OT?

wow, Lilly changed the title of the post, and now I'm in her sigline!

nogap is the best you need the wheel cramed in the fender well heres my beater http://www.streetsourcemag.com/uploads/Ownerprofiles/1Loyota/10132005103930PM92281.jpg

its amazing how an opinion is wrong until its your own, eveyone here is saying how its their personal taste to drop their box, it was the original posters personal taste to say it looks bad. "move on"

its amazing how an opinion is wrong until its your own, eveyone here is saying how its their personal taste to drop their box, it was the original posters personal taste to say it looks bad. "move on"

Its all opinions, which is why i say this thread is absolutely pointless. Should be locked. Thats just me though.. No real information can come from this.
Cya

Please, enough with this thread already.

Some people like lowered xBs, some people don't. That is the point and no side is going to convince the other.


http://kevinremde.members.winisp.net/images/beating_2Da_2Ddead_2Dhorse.gif

LOCK THIS THREAD OR DELETE IT!!!

yea agreed!

the starter of the thread cant even post here to rebuke.

locked