Yes I know, another turbo tc. Hi everyone. I visit this forum almost every day for the past 3 moths and have learned a great deal of information. Thanks to all of you, now I will soon be sharing some experience of my own. I have been working on building a tc for a some time or should I said (my mechanic has been working on it) anyway, basically is a custom GT35-R turbo with a front mount intercooler and a Haltech computer. This combination should work very well. Hope to be driving by next week.

Rick C.

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wow.
what kinda boost you gonna be running?

Sh!t looks nice brotha.. keep us up to date

Starting at about 10psi and will take it from there...

Rick C.

Stock block?

and why are you using a MAF if you are using a haltech?

Stock pistons and roads, the tc has a very strong motor. It seams to hold around 400whp with stock internals using the correct air/fuel ratio.
Using the MAF to keep stock computer happy.

Rick C.

Ok, first off. Let me help you out with something. It wont last long with anything over 300-320ish. It wont blow up instantly, but you are on a very short time table.

That turbo isn't even in its effcientcy range at 10psi, its a little big unless you plan on building the engine and running MUCH more boost.

What Haltech are you using that you plan on keeping the stock ecu with the drive-by-wire setup? Since haltech doesn't support it, that im aware of.

Charles

Nice to have you here. keep us informed.

~ I still say my s/c is larger! ehem size matters =)

dam man...those GT35 R's are good up to like 38-40 psi(correct me if Im wrong). Any reason why you are going w/ such a big turbo setup?? And do you plan on throwin a 50 shot to get yourself out of the hole?

Ok, first off. Let me help you out with something. It wont last long with anything over 300-320ish. It wont blow up instantly, but you are on a very short time table.
Its possible, went it blows I will find out the weakest link and replace it.. hehe
That turbo isn't even in its effcientcy range at 10psi, its a little big unless you plan on building the engine and running MUCH more boost.
I never said I was going to run the car at 10psi of boost, I said I was going to start at 10psi and take it frm there. Have to start low and work your way up. This is the same turbo that Jason at “scion speed” use to create 400+ rwhp on his personal scion.
What Haltech are you using that you plan on keeping the stock ecu with the drive-by-wire setup? Since haltech doesn't support it, that im aware of.
Haltech does not support drive-by-wire, Im not 100% sure on the Haltech my mechanic is using.

This car is being built by Lance at Toyomoto in Miami FL. I think he know what he is doing.

Nice to have you here. keep us informed.

I definitely will.

Rick C.

dam man...those GT35 R's are good up to like 38-40 psi(correct me if Im wrong). Any reason why you are going w/ such a big turbo setup?? And do you plan on throwin a 50 shot to get yourself out of the hole?

Im sure that the engine will spool the turbo, however with such a low rpm range its not going to make full boost for very long. It really all depends on what hot side he is running.

Im still curious about this Haltech deal. Are you planning on running the F5? If so, where are you putting the additional injectors? Otherwise, there is only one Haltech standalone that is compatible with DBW and there would be no reason to use the MAF of the stock ECU at that point since its a complete stand alone. If you are using the F5, not really a good way to adjust things once you build much more then 10psi, if that.

Another issue that you are going to run into if you are using the F5, is that you are trying to blow through the MAF. You're going to max it out VERY quickly and will not have the ability to pull voltage from it since the F5 Haltech works completely indipendent from the stock ecu...

So whats the deal? Give me some details. Im curious.

Charles

Ok, first off. Let me help you out with something. It wont last long with anything over 300-320ish. It wont blow up instantly, but you are on a very short time table.
Its possible, went it blows I will find out the weakest link and replace it.. hehe
That turbo isn't even in its effcientcy range at 10psi, its a little big unless you plan on building the engine and running MUCH more boost.
I never said I was going to run the car at 10psi of boost, I said I was going to start at 10psi and take it frm there. Have to start low and work your way up. This is the same turbo that Jason at “scion speed” use to create 400+ rwhp on his personal scion.
What Haltech are you using that you plan on keeping the stock ecu with the drive-by-wire setup? Since haltech doesn't support it, that im aware of.
Haltech does not support drive-by-wire, Im not 100% sure on the Haltech my mechanic is using.

This car is being built by Lance at Toyomoto in Miami FL. I think he know what he is doing.

Nice to have you here. keep us informed.

I definitely will.

Rick C.

Its not that its "possible", its FACT. If you would like to see the weakest link, i have plenty of pics. You are not the first person to do this and you would be wise to learn about it from others that have and save yourself some money.

We wont even get started on Scion Speed. Yes their car made 400whp, it also blew up.

Charles

P.S. Im not trying to come across harsh, some things just get lost in translation on the web.

Haltech actually has two units that will support the tC and the drive by wire system. You will retain the factory ECU for the day to day living and splice out the ignition and fuel wires along with the maf. The haltech has the ability to change the MAF single to a MAP once it learns the factory parameters. This in conjuction with the stock MAF you can tune off of a true speed density program.

We had a meeting with Haltech about this last weekend and it looks like this will become a great option for the tC once there are more of us out there looking to push the envelope.

If you run into any issues with the Haltech give us a call or you may want to try David Shoemaker he is a technical advisor at Haltech we have been working with him on the tC platform.

We also agree with you that the stock block will handle those power levels especially on a correct tune. The haltech will offer you a greater range of options. You can use the stock MAF as an air intake sensor but you will max out the readings making it a blow through.

Looks good though keep us posted.

-ZPIracing

The only 2 I am aware of are the E8X and F10X.

Thanks for the offer ZPIracing, Im glad you agree with me. We are also working with Haltech on this project and will soon have it together. It’s good to know we are on the same page here and will continue to unleash the potentials of this great engine. Haltech is a great product we just need to adapt it to the scion.

Will keep you guys posted of any potential problems, concerns and progress, I have a feeling this combination is going to work well with the scion tc.

Rick C.

You should just replace the pistons right now. Since you'll be pulling a lot of stuff out anyways..

Nice keep us updated.
Dyno that beast.
see what number it pulls out.

Im curious to know of ANY stock block turbo tc's that have maintained anywhere close to 400 whp for any period of time. In fact, Scion Speed is the only stock block car that I know of that made over 400 wheel and it was blatantly smoking in the video on the dyno. Not to mention that they clearly said they were rebuilding the block in the modified mag article.

Other then that I don't personally know of any cars that have made anywhere near that amount of power and lasted more then say, 3K miles.

Anyone?

Charles

TurbCustomz, I appreciate your concern.
The blatantly smoking in the video like you mention from Scion Speed was probably the coolant coming from the exhaust. Running high boost in the tc will actually lift up the heads from the block allowing coolant to flow in the pistons. Not a good thing but that is how we all learn. That is why Scion Speed along with other companies including my self has changed the head studs on the tc.

Bottom line, if Scion Speed, ZPI racing and other have accomplish to get 400hp or close to it with a stock block and only a piggyback ECU, imagine what the potentials will be with a complete fuel management system like the Haltech, AEM or a Motec if you can afford one..hehe

Rick C.

the stock internals of a toyota are builted to last.
most or all the internal parts are forged.

basing my info off supra owners that i've previously talked too. the 2jz engine can handle up to 500hp maybe even 600. and our engines are able to handle up to 350 hp on stock internals. i tink thats FACT!

mayb our engine might be built with the same quality. who knows but ZPI and SS have shown us that there turbo cars have pushed a lot of PSI and have took a great beating.

BTW
GT35-R turbo
thats a monster of a turbo... im expecting 15psi as teh norm... 400whp to be easy... haltech compy, nice stuff.

maybe people who are not sure what they are talking about and who had no direct expirence with turbo applications need not to speak

^^ you talking to me?

The 2JZ-GTE Engine Bottom End is built to withstand 500bhp because of the stock twins.

The 2AZ-FE Engine Bottom End is build to withstand 300bhp.

I cant believe you would even compare the Supra Motor to the tC Motor.....


Back on topic...


Personally, you might want to scrap this whole idea. Putting a GT35R Turbo on a 2AZ-FE Engine is just obsurd, especally with on a stock block.

If you are going to leave the stock connector rods, pistons, and head, and run this turbo, you will be saying bye bye to your block over time.

Why do people always say "replace the pistons". You need to replace the Connector Rods, and Head as well. So if you ARE going to do this turbo, what is going to be your compression ratio?


I'm smelling blown motor in 2 months......

^^^^^^^^Replace the head for what ? :rofl: I hope you meant head gasket and head bolts :lalala: .

The 2JZ-GTE Engine Bottom End is built to withstand 500bhp because of the stock twins.

try 900+rwhp

Hahaitzskippy you have a point there “Toyota internals are built to last “ I damage a piston at 560hp in my supra and it was not because the piston was week but the air/fuel mixture was incorrect. (I basically lean out the engine).
We first thought the tc internal were good for maybe 300hp, we were wrong, 350hp max, we were wrong,400hp we were wrong, so far SS last dyno I believe was around 430hp with only a piggyback computer. That is just amazing. What will this engine do with a great computer and perfect tuning? I can’t wait to find out.

BlkSandPrlTurbotC
Personally, you might want to scrap this whole idea. Putting a GT35R Turbo on a 2AZ-FE Engine is just obsurd, especally with on a stock block.
I appreciate your concern but what type of turbo you think SS has in their 400+ tc? Yep you guessed it GT35R

Rick C.

Lil word of wisdom....Everyone keeps saying 300hp this and 400hp that...I dont care how much hp you put down on the dyno cause it aint gonna last on stock internals(congratulations if you hit 400, you have just become a dyno queen and thats about it if you dont address a few areas)...everyone keeps saying our block is good to 500hp and this and that...yea, the BLOCK can handle that...Theres a big difference between the block taking the abuse than the internals taking the abuse...the rods arent weak, the piston itself isnt too weak,just a design flaw(In our minds, not Toyota's)...a few people on here know whats really happening at these hp levels and I dont get how people just take everything with a grain of salt...it seems like everyone is too boost happy and this could be real dangerous for all the newbs that will stumble upon threads like this saying to themselves,"If I do this to my car Im gonna be able to beat my buddies STI or EVO." Yea, maybe for a couple of weeks you will be able to...If people are soo dam persistent on hitting numbers like these, than do the internal work first so you dont waste your own time. With that said, good luck with your project and I hope everything works out as I will be following this real close...Im not trying to be a naysayer or anything because it can be done safely with a few necessary steps, but it seems like everyone just wants to cut corners.

-Vito

Simplyscion, you are correct and I agree with you. My purpose is not to beat anyone in the dyno my purpose is to build a stock block to produce a reliable, respectable hp. In order to do that I am willing to push the envelope just to see how much this motor can take. Im not telling anyone to do what I do. Me, I really don’t care if the engine blows, I only care at what hp the engine blows and what will the damage be. Then I will come to my own conclusions and decisions.

Guys, I know the engine can blow anytime and I know I am cutting corners by not putting pistons and rods, but that is my point.

I will say this one more time “If 400+hp can be reached on a stock block with a piggyback computer what will this engine do with a tune Haltech? “And a few necessary steps” and that is where I would like your input!! I would like for those of you that know and been there to help if possible with this project. If it blows at 450hp with a tune Haltech we will discover the cause and the weakness of the motor. Then maybe 380hp is safe with a tune Haltech. On that note if it blows at 500hp “wishful thinking” than maybe 400hp is safe with a tune Haltech… I don’t have all the answers but I am willing to try.

Rick C.

I respect you doin this R&D work for us, but again, it has been done...I cant wait to see the end results and if you want this thing to last you gotta address the timing issue. With the right timing, I wouldnt doubt that the stock rings would last more than 15,000 miles.

You seem to be really confident that you are going to be able to make so much more power with your Haltech, but you don't even know what Haltech is going to be on your car.

Im all about seeing another boosted scion running the streets. Im definatly all about seeing another boosted scion that can give mine a run for its money. However, you don't seem to really know much about anything that is going on with your car. Don't take this the wrong way, but I get the impression that you are really hyped up because the guys down there at Toyomoto have told you this and told you that and you are blindly accepting it without really knowing any of the details or having a true grasp on how these things work. You are going to have a very nice setup on your car when you are done, if you take the time to understand it and do it right. I know you think that with a "standalone" ( I should point out that you aren't really using a true standalone ) you are going to be able to make some unbelieveable amount of power and the car be reliable. The fact of the matter is this. Cylinder Pressure is Cylinder Pressure. No matter how good your tune is, an engine with a particular set of components will only be able to withstand a given amount of dynamic compression before parts are stressed and broken. No tune is going to lower this number and no tune is going to keep this from happening.

I have a gut feeling that I know what will happen here. Keep in mind that with a stock engine setup, just because you dont have detonation doesnt mean you have a safe tune. There are many more elements to it that many, MANY people don't understand.

As far as the Supra comments go... You can not really compare the two as they are competely different engines. You should also keep in mind that yes, you can give a supra 600 HP and drive it daily without issue on a good tune. It also started at 300 HP and not 140.

There are not any 400 whp stock block scions that have lasted. They have all blown up within a very short amount of time. Not because they were "only on a piggyback".

In either event, good luck with your project. The work on the car thus far looks very good and Im excited to see what kinda numbers it puts down. Should prove to be very nice.

Charles

I gotta say that GT 35 looks real f'in good in the engine bay though :rofl:
Its almost as big as my supercharger lol

I gotta say that GT 35 looks real f'in good in the engine bay though :rofl:
Its almost as big as my supercharger lol

That is does. No matter the application, GT35R's is one sexy mother

TurbCustomz, if all you are trying to do is criticize everything I said is fine, but what am looking for is “help” not criticism thanks. “Haltech E8”

Simlyscin, Yes the timing is definitely a great deal and will definitely be address properly.

Starting this week the fuel pump and fuel lines will be install follow by the Haltech, am hopping to have it ready by the end of the week or by early next week. Will keep you guys posted.

Rick C.

He isnt critizing you Rick.

TurboCustomz knows his $hit. I would take his posts into consideration.

For what it's worth, Toyomoto knows their stuff. At least when it comes to Toyota/Lexus. They have made some beasts of cars, and they are the ones who actually did my valve body and stuff on the IS300. I'm not sure what they have to do with your car (didn't read the entire post), but I'm sure Lance down there would have you covered.

Best of all, you can take a drive down to South Beach while you wait! :)

Charles isn't criticising so much as offering his experience because he has already discovered the weak point in the tC and where it occurs and at what boost pressure.

The first weak point is the piston ring. It's a fuel efficiency minded ring that will break with around 10 psi.

There is your info, there isn't a need to find out for yourself. We've that information already, we're more interested in finding out if a 15+ psi tC can be daily driven (at least I am.)

That said, good luck on this project. It sounds expensive.

LoL.

I wasn't trying to criticize you. I thought I made that more then clear. However, sometimes "help" comes in the form of criticism. I was mearly offering some tips and observations from someone that has a 350+ WHP turbo scion tc. You are not the only one to do this.

Since you dont seem to be willing to accept anything that you see as negative, good luck with your project. I'll be watching.

Charles

Kungpaosamuraiii, Thanks dude, that is exactly the kind of information I am looking for. I really appreciate your input and will be keeping a close look at the ring. I can’t believe they will break around 10psi. In respect to the 15+psi daily driven, well I will let you know when I get there, Thanks again for the info. And yes it is a bit expensive but you know how it is “How fast you want to go depends on how much money you have to spend”

Rick C.

Keep on trucking man!

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c40/turbocustomz/tcpiston1.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c40/turbocustomz/tcpiston1.jpg

I’m guessing those are your tc pistons and rods, correct? What pistons and rods are you using now? And what was the damage? Any help will be appreciated.

Rick C.

I’m guessing those are your tc pistons and rods, correct? What pistons and rods are you using now? And what was the damage? Any help will be appreciated.

Rick C.

Dude you got the sickest Toyota Speciality Shop workin on your car, your taken care of. :loser:

Do those look like pistons and rods? I think so... DERRRR :loser:

This shop is gonna love you

He's not wondering if those are pistons and rods; he's wondering if those are TurboCustomz's pistons and rods - you know, the ones he keeps hearing about? That broke at 10 psi?

A lot of hate for no reason. If the guy wishes to find out the limits the hard way let him! The way I look at it is the more parts he brakes the more we learn about our engine. Besides he is trying to bring Haltech ecu to us and I can only give props to that.

fine. we're trying to save him dough, but whatever...i dont care now...

i'm just gonna watch this now.

BlkSandPrlTurbotC,
“This shop is gonna love you”
“fine. we're trying to save him dough, but whatever...”
I appreciate your concern but Lance is the owner of Toyomoto and I know him for more that 8 years now and this is not the first project we do together, thrust me, at this point is not about the money is about making something work. If it were about the money I will have to probably take a second mortgage in my house to pay for all the custom work he’s done in the tc. hehe
kungpaosamuraiii
He's not wondering if those are pistons and rods; he's wondering if those are TurboCustomz's pistons and rods - you know, the ones he keeps hearing about? That broke at 10 psi?
Thank you!! I hope to get an answer tomorrow from TurboCustomz.. I hope he is able to elaborate on what happened, I’m curios to find out.

Rick C.

Lance does know his sh!t when it comes to Supras :bow:
Those were the stock pistons/rings/rods...I believe they were broke at around 13-14psi daily after about 6000 miles...I think that was while running meth w/ a Greddy Emanage Ultimate. Where are you Charles...Im such a burnout I cant remember anything :lalala: :rofl:

Well.. Damn.
You don't need luck.

Those are the stock rods and pistons. My has a tad over 5800 miles on it now and it had 2500 before I put the kit on it. I ran it around 14psi until the stock clutch started slipping and then around 10 psi until I took it apart. A total of MAYBE three months.

As you can see in that pic, the ringlands on the intake side are broken. All four pistons have the same break, in the same spot, with the same break lines. The piston tops are in perfect condition, as are the combustion chambers on the head. The parts show no signs of detonation and the car was on race gas the majority of the time. Never saw leaner then 11.8:1 even on race gas.

I was running an emanage for the first 1500 or so miles and an emanage ultimate for the duration, and the car didn't have the meth on it at the time.

This is NOT THE ONLY set of these pistons that I have seen in this condition. As I stated before, this is the first weak point. Toyota designs these engines for low emmissions and high gas mileage. Therefore they place the ring lands high up on the pistons to reduce blow by and it creates a thinner, thus weaker landing. The stock rings are 1.2, 1.2, 1.5 mm's , which isn't the greatest thickness for running any decent amount of boost either.

I am running a custom set of Diamond Pistons, forged of course, with a stock compression ratio. I also have them in 9.1:1. They have the proper ring land placement and thickness and come with a set of moly coated steel rings in 1.5, 1.5, and 2.0 ring thicknesses. The pistons are temp coated on top and come with wristpins and spiro locks. I have stock rods that have been shot peened and cryo treated and since they are forged "should" be good a decent amount of power. We will see because I plan on testing the limits again in about two weeks.

I know Lance down there knows his stuff and they have done some impressive work on several cars. Im not doubting their abilities at all. Sometimes when you are working on something new it helps to talk to someone that has done it before and catch up on all the in's and out's. Like I said before, I was trying to help, not offer criticism.

Charles

I hate the whole piggyback a standalone off the factory ecu, seems that there would have to be a cable TB that would bolt up to the IM from another toyota car and i'm sure adjusting the trottle pedal couldn't be overly hard, so you could replace the ecu completely. Guess it doesnt matter, but i hate the interlacing of a full standalone with unknown ecu parameters.

10psi on a gt35r will produce massive power. although I fear for powerband, especially if the variable cam timing ends up becoming locked with the splicing of the Haltech. with a redline sitting at mid 6k range, you may not get full power til 4500rpms, which will be crap for powerband. Amazing power can be had, but my 1.8L honda pulled 393whp@ 13psi with a gt35 turbo. Those stock pistons aren't going to last that long with that kind of power.

I tell alot of the honda owners i tune car for this. They build massive turbo setups, have a fuel system up to 500whp with walbro, aeromotive FPR and 750+cc injectors, but stock engines. doesn't matter what the parts attached to the engine will do, if you engine can't hold the power, it simple can't hold the power.

10psi should get you well over the 300whp mark. Just beware and don't go the, I'm going to prove to everyone i can make 400+whp on stock block, just so you shot a whole through it, or kill a piston and kill your head. be smart round 1 so you can play in round 2.

Very interesting Charles and thanks for the info. I can’t believe it happen on all 4 pistons in the exact same place. I will let Lance know tomorrow and ask him is there is a logical explanation about what happened to you besides the obvious of curse. I’m almost certain that this has not happened to Scion Speed and last time I cheeked they were still running the emanage don’t know about ZPI, Denzo or others. I know you said is not the only set of pistons that you seen in this condition and I would like to find more info about it. Thanks again for the info and whatever I find on my end I will post it.

Rick C.

I hear you man, (seen4ever) my intensions are not to prove everyone I can make 400+, but to make a good solid setup with a stock block. In order to accomplish that, I may blow the engine to finds its limits on my particular setup. Every setup is different and will have different results my just happened to include a Haltech and an MSD box to cover the fuel, timing and spark. If all this is tune correctly my number may be different from other setups. I don’t know what the outcome will be but I will find out soon. I may get to 400hp and back down to 350hp and be happy, I don’t know!! But thank for your input is all well taken.
On a different note, Im guessing you have a 92 civic, have you seen what Lance did on the HP racecar? (92 civic) 8.5@168mhp look for your self :
http://www.nhraimport.com/2002/news/082201.html
http://www.nhraimport.com/2002/drivers/l_holung.html

Rick C.

Rick, you do know that charles was the head(only) mechanic at ZPI from til they started til recently, he tends to speak from his experience and cars seen while at ZPI. Hell his car was the first test car for all of the turbo kits, etc.

i understand pushing the envelope, but as being a person that has done it more than once with honda stuff, you get to a point where you hate killing engines.

Best of luck though, its a great turbo, although no clue why you got the ported compressor housing, guess it does make it sound cool, but will cost a few HP if you try to really lay on the turbo once you build the engine. I'm goign to see if i can't get the turbo to go above and beyond its limits this year. last years 500 was fun, but next year should be more exciting.

Rick, you do know that charles was the head(only) mechanic at ZPI from til they started til recently, he tends to speak from his experience and cars seen while at ZPI. Hell his car was the first test car for all of the turbo kits, etc.

i understand pushing the envelope, but as being a person that has done it more than once with honda stuff, you get to a point where you hate killing engines.

Best of luck though, its a great turbo, although no clue why you got the ported compressor housing, guess it does make it sound cool, but will cost a few HP if you try to really lay on the turbo once you build the engine. I'm goign to see if i can't get the turbo to go above and beyond its limits this year. last years 500 was fun, but next year should be more exciting.


Reasons why:

*Designed to increase your turbo life by eliminating the damaging effect of compressor surge.

*Give your turbo a unique quieter sound as well

Reasons why:
*Designed to increase your turbo life by eliminating the damaging effect of compressor surge.
*Give your turbo a unique quieter sound as well
You are 100% correct..... it eliminates compressor surge.

Rick C.

seen4ever
No I did not know that, thatnks. I will try not to kill the engine…
BTW I ask Lance for his opinion about the ringlands been broken on all 4 pistons and he ask me how many pound of boost, I said around 14lb and he ask me what computer are they using and I said emanage, he just said “ no wander". Apparently the emanage is not good for the scion tc at that boost. Huummm something to think about. Maybe that is the problem!!
I don’t know but have to believe Lance, he knows more that anyone I know.
Maybe after my car is done with the Haltech we will have something to compare to..

Rick C.

I'd like to know what he doesnt like about the emanage exactly. Many people are scared to use it with other applications because some horror stories have come up on the net from users that didnt know what they were doing.

Boost is relative to many factors. 14psi on the 16g that I had on my car and 14psi on a gt35R are two completely different animals. Its hard to say it wasn't good at "that boost".

I'd personally like to know what he doesn't like about it. Maybe he knows something that I don't know. In my experience with it and the tC, I am nothing but pleased.

Charles

Well, all I can tell you is that I will see him on Wednesday and will ask specific questions abut it. I will try to see what he actually thinks of the emanage pros and cons. I know he has used them in the past so he definitely has a reason behind it.

Rick C.

I just wanted to thank all you guys for your imput on problrms with turboing the tc it has helped me out a lot and i am looking forward to finding out what happens with your tc.

man i wish i had the money backing to do some of this stuff...rcruz2525 great setup, I cant wait to see your car run..

[quote="paul_dezod
Reasons why:

*Designed to increase your turbo life by eliminating the damaging effect of compressor surge.

*Give your turbo a unique quieter sound as well[/quote]

ever ported compressor housing i've been around, has definately not been quieter, damn thing sounds more like an airplane. I know it helps with compressor surge, but its a 2.4L, it shouldn't have that problem. I can understand if it was a 1.6L or something, but my little 1.8L had zero problem spooling that turbo, so i would think the TC wouldn't be complete ____ in that department, assuming it has a decent manifold with an actual collector design, rather than just a raw dump the runners into the turbo.

dowpipe
http://stalin.zftp.com/images/rick/dpipe.jpg
http://stalin.zftp.com/images/rick/dpipe1.jpg
manifold
http://stalin.zftp.com/images/rick/manifold.jpg
http://stalin.zftp.com/images/rick/top.jpg
intercooler
http://stalin.zftp.com/images/rick/frontmount.jpg
http://stalin.zftp.com/images/rick/frontmount1.jpg
http://stalin.zftp.com/images/rick/front.jpg
http://stalin.zftp.com/images/rick/done.jpg

Rick C.

ohhhh...that header is sex!
Is it ceramic chrome coating?

:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: thankyou for sharing the images

are you retaning the factory washer fluid? Looks great though what type of manifold gasket is that?

I really have not given though about the washer fluid, if you have a better solution let me know.
The manifold gasket is a Toyomoto product and can be purchase by them. It is one of the best one out there and we have look!! This one was actually made especially for the scion tc, but the company require a minimum of abut 40 pieces if I’m not mistaken, so I know he has more in stock at the shop.

Rick C.

That is sick.....Nice looking setup!

Sweet 8) Best looking setup I've seen so far on the TC.

that manifold is sex. how much would it cost for one of those 40 peices?

Hi everyone the exhaust manifold gasket is $45.00 and the exhaust manifold including the gasket is $360.00

Rick C.

Hi everyone the exhaust manifold gasket is $45.00 and the exhaust manifold including the gasket is $360.00

Rick C.

Wow that's cheap :eyes:

looks great

lookin good

lookin good

maybe when u get the car out you can run my tc

Cool, what do you have on your tc?

RIck C.

Pics look nice Rick.

Charles