Well this morning I had my new header installed. It only took them about an hour and it was very straight forward.

I am very happy with the results. The car now runs through the powerband very nice. Before it felt like it struggled in the upper rev's, now it just breaths. If you have an intake and exhaust, I would recommend this as your next mod.

Best part is now that at $200 its a great deal, I'll have some pics up very soon.

They are very nice guys there and have excellent customer service.

My current power mods are:

EL Prototypes Header
Injen Intake
Magnaflow muffler

If anyone is interested you can contact them by email at elproto@aol.com
or by phone at 626-812-4358.

Here are the pics of the stock header. You can see where the main problem with it is, the tubes get flattened and that’s where a lot of power is lost...
http://home.pacbell.net/psychors/stock1.jpg

Here is another of the stock header, as you can see, even though the openings look to be very big, it’s just an illusion...
http://home.pacbell.net/psychors/stock2.jpg

Here are a couple shots of the ELP Header, it’s a very nice piece. And unlike other company's designs, these ones actually have the bracket to support it.
http://home.pacbell.net/psychors/elheader1.jpg
http://home.pacbell.net/psychors/elheader2.jpg
http://home.pacbell.net/psychors/elheader3.jpg

And here are some side by side shots of the stock and ELP Header...
http://home.pacbell.net/psychors/side1.jpg
http://home.pacbell.net/psychors/side2.jpg

http://img45.photobucket.com/albums/v137/glamdrig2000/DSCN1072.jpg
http://img45.photobucket.com/albums/v137/glamdrig2000/DSCN1071.jpg

Was it much louder than before? How does it sound off the line? I really want to install headers but dont want additional noise.

Was it much louder than before? How does it sound off the line? I really want to install headers but dont want additional noise.

Its sounds just like it did before with my exhaust. I have not noticed it being any louder.

Did you notice a difference in the power?

Did you notice a difference in the power?

from his first post
I am very happy with the results. The car now runs through the powerband very nice. Before it felt like it struggled in the upper rev's, now it just breaths. If you have an intake and exhaust, I would recommend this as your next mod.

It seems like, as is the case with the DC header, that people notice a nice gain in the higher RPMs. However, I am really curious as to the effect in the lower range. Do you feel a bit of a lag in the 0 to 3000 rpm or is this trade off not that noticeable?

is this something a company you work for makes? whats shipping cost to va?

where can I buy onje of these headers?

Very nice 8) . What size is the collecter :?:

I have not felt any loss in torque, in fact i can say that theres an increase. The car really moves now, its a very noticable feeling. Like I said before, its a great mod for $200

If anyone is interested you can contact them by email at elproto@aol.com
or by phone at 626-812-4358. They are located in Azusa, CA and are really great guys.

Very nice 8) . What size is the collecter :?:

the hedder is the same size to fit the original exhaust. there is no collector pipe that connects to the hedder. The hedder just bolts on to the stock motor and exhaust. :D
I need to get one of those things, I drove Rodney_Ray 's after I installed it and dam! I need one! 8)

What about the gas mileage? is it affected in any way? I already have AEM CAI and Tanabe Muffler.

How would this one compare to the DC?

How would this one compare to the DC?

This one came out years before the DC header but it's amzing how very similar the DC looks to this one.

it does look the same, but the DC does not have the bracket for the motor bracket. And the DC isn't as shiney, dam the EL is nice. 8)

One thing you guys should know, they are made in batches, and when they run out of inventory you have to wait for the next run, so if your interested you should order early. I know a lot of Echo guys are jumping on these right now.

dam, have they run out already? when would the next batch be or would it be better to email them. 8)

paid 215 for my dc sport header shipped to my door and its just as shiny...and i would bet money the dc-sport perform better
http://www.scionlife.com/regimg/10613/headermini.JPG
http://www.scionlife.com/regimg/10613/header1mini.JPG

Hey psycho, how bout a pic of yours installed?

I'm going to ask a silly question so everyone please be patient. With the headers installed will there be any probs. with smog? and what about gas mileage is it better or worse?

Good question I was wondering if this had CARB pending on it like so many other performance mods. Also, how much did you pay to get it installed and where; or did you do it yourself? If you did it yourself how difficult was it? Thanks!

Al.Truistic
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I'm going to ask a silly question so everyone please be patient. With the headers installed will there be any probs. with smog? and what about gas mileage is it better or worse?

the DC had a piece of paper saying," This is a JDM parts and that they are not responsible for you not passing emissions tests." I am not quite sure whats really gonna happen, but hell I am just gonna install my heat sheild and I know they won;t look anyway. I am still gonna buy one.

the people at the smog shop never bugged me about all the crap i did to the civic....they are pretty stupid around here....or there is always the 150bucks and your reg to the smog shop your buddy owns and magic happens and your papers come back saying passed!
but anyway if u had the headers on and u went to smog it.....the only place you would fail is the visual....but i highly doubt they would give u grief about it....they would run it and if it passed collect their money$$$ and send you on your way....

Hey there Stylis! So, has your opinion changed about the CARB approval (or lack thereof) for a SC or turbo or is it cuz headers are easier to put on and take off than full blown SC or turbo? Would that heat shield you would be installing be for the exhaust? Just wondering.... :D

Al.Truistic
aB

the DC had a piece of paper saying," This is a JDM parts and that they are not responsible for you not passing emissions tests." I am not quite sure whats really gonna happen, but hell I am just gonna install my heat sheild and I know they won;t look anyway. I am still gonna buy one.

The EL piece looks really nice...

Although the flange is really inconsistant. Take a look at each runner, they arent a perfect circle in diameter. I think thats why the DC one is a little bit more. They pride themselves on there CNC flanges and it shows.

Anyways, I'd like to see the dyno charts to see how much bottom end loss there is if any and how much usable gain there is.

Stylis >> Its a differenty type of ceramic coating. EL looks very similar to HOT JET. Not quite sure what process DC uses. Either way they both work.

dam, have they run out already? when would the next batch be or would it be better to email them. 8)

I talked to Erik today and they had 2 left on this batch I think, and he's got another one on order. I would give them a call to verify.

Hey psycho, how bout a pic of yours installed?

My strut bar is in the way so its hard for me to take pics of it, i'll try to get some tonight though

where you there today? i was there from 2-3

I passed by after work, so around 5:15ish

Hey there Stylis! So, has your opinion changed about the CARB approval (or lack thereof) for a SC or turbo or is it cuz headers are easier to put on and take off than full blown SC or turbo? Would that heat shield you would be installing be for the exhaust? Just wondering.... :D

Al.Truistic
aB

the DC had a piece of paper saying," This is a JDM parts and that they are not responsible for you not passing emissions tests." I am not quite sure whats really gonna happen, but hell I am just gonna install my heat sheild and I know they won;t look anyway. I am still gonna buy one.

I was going to install the stock heat shield on the hedder when I get it, that way if the smog tech looks at it, at least it will look close to stock! :D