so after much deliberation i finally have time to sit down and write a review for install, the kit, and any other misc ish. first and foremost let me tell you that the actual install doesnt take knowledge of rocket science, but it does require one to know a few things beforehand. the night before i assembled the entire thing in my room just to make sure i knew where each part was going before i tore my car apart. getting the OEM header off of the manifold is very difficult and as i said before, knowing what tools to use and each step (eh hem manual) is a plus. i mean being flustered and not even considering using an open/box wrench to take the left corner nut of is crazy :doh: . i cannot really remember too much being mentally difficult except the vacuum lines, where they should run and where to tee them. difficulty lies in the physical contribution needed for the job. GRRRRRR the oil pan, holy freakin ____, i had to chisel, beat, kick, pound and pry before i even got it to remotely budge. it took me a good 3 hours to get off. after that, the downpipe and exhaust manifold wasnt aligned properly, so i had to take the turbo apart and piece it together individually. once everything seemed to be in place, i gave it a start, and was startled by the results. it smoke a little, but nothing abnormal to someone who has seen an turbo install, so that freaked me out. the idling was horrible, but i will explain that later. that night i gave it a little push, and popped a coupler off. so how is it today you ask? well its complicated. its idling poorly, is running rich, has the CEL, stalls, has exhaust leak, and the boost meter doesnt reach over 5psi.

***PLEASE TAKE NOTE!!!*** all of the above previously mentioned about problematic characteristics has NOTHING to do with ZPIs kit, fabrication, or manufacturing. I assure you it is only due to my lack of inexperience, as i am taking the necessary precautions to remedy these problems.

idling, of course its idling poorly, i have the OEM sparkplug in. i do have an NGK as it will go in this weekend. this will correct the idling, stalling, lesser gas mileage, and maybe running more rich than not. i have the double antifouler that will go in this weekend which will take care of the CEL, and possibly help mileage and running rich. i am going to uninstall, and reinstall everything making sure all lines are tight, and the exhaust and turbo housing is sealed properly. the only, and i mean the few incorrect aspects of the whole kit was the unclocked turbo and the new location for the MAF sensor. so without further adieu here is a list of newbie warnings and/or donts of a turbo install. take note of this all you newbies who are concerned about installing yourself, as these tips will definitely help you out. for all jaded heads in here, you have my full permission to tell me how dumb i am while laughing your asses off.

1. dont use silicon hoses for vacuum lines, they crimp and cause very very poor idling. use steel braided rubber hoses.
2. dont forget oil pan sealant, your oil will continually drip, leaving little pools in your driveway.
3. make sure you tighten everything very very good. torque everything that calls for it. my kit still isnt torqued, im surprised it hasnt fallen off yet (probably because its overtightened).
4. get EVERYTHING prior to the install, you dont know how many times i ran back and forth to walmart, the hardware store, and the autostore for ____ i needed, or lacked.
5. dont forget to take the gasket off the OEM header, reconnecting the spipe with the downpipe without it makes it sound like complete ___.
6. dont forget the O ring on the BOV, without it, the BOV doesnt work, and gurggles instead of psssshhh.
7. put the charge pipe coupler on throttle body first, then charge pipe, do not install coupler onto charge pipe and entire thing onto throttle body, you will blow/pop the coupler off.

i wish i could remember the rest. this weekend, all that will be taken care of and my car should be at 100%. my problems include untorqued bolts, oil pan sealant, seize compound, cold sparkplug, tightened vacuum lines (primarily where the boost gauge is tee'd), new copper gaskets for wastegate, and refitting of the turbo. obviously, i know whats wrong, so its not a problem.

now for the actual product: this turbo kit is nice. it pulls very hard right after spooling at 2.5k. i mean my car rips. there have been no problems with the kit itself. i have no reporting complaints as of now, as i have had it on for 3 weeks i think. Seriously, it is a very easy install, and a low maintenance type of turbo kit. this is my first one, and ZPIs kit has definitely convinced me to turbo future cars. ZPI as a whole is great, and their customer service is second to none. besides the turbo itself, anything ive needed thereafter has been processed and shipped promptly. i hope this testimonial will show that there are cases of good, and that they truly are trying to become a premier supplier of our products (if they arent already.)

special million thanks to sciondad, poizentC, and kenny. they were a tremendous help in the install, and kept me cool when i wanted to freak out. i wish i could remember more of what i wanted to say, but as the clammoring starts to file in, im sure i'll will remember, and post. thanks for looking.

Hey thanks a lot this is probably the single most usefull thing for newbies trying to install the kti themselves (like me :)) good job, very appreciated.

The oil pan gasket cracks me up......especially after it took you three hours to take off :doh:

I think this is a good first hand expirence of the trials of a guy not even sure how a turbo kit works getting the bugs worked out and having fun (most of the time) while doing it.

I am pretty sure the rich issues are do to your boost/vacum leak the fact that the car is sucking in enough air throught the MAF for 7psi and you are hitting under 5.

Either way I know you are happy and it is nice to finally see a customer that owns up to making miastakes and having us help them through the install issues rather than pointing blame saying it is wrong

He's happy? Successful?

Basically.



Ok, that's 2...

Hey, that oil pan is just insane to remove. I'm with unseen. I used a hammer and kitchen sink pounding on it.

Yup, I had a vacuum leak as well. Boost gauge clues you in on that quickly. Cheap "T" connector crushed on me.

And let us not forget the cheap Tial gaskets. :doh: Great WG and BOV, but they can do the gaskets a little better.

1. dont use silicon hoses for vacuum lines, they crimp and cause very very poor idling. use steel braided rubber hoses.
4. get EVERYTHING prior to the install, you dont know how many times i ran back and forth to walmart, the hardware store, and the autostore for poop i needed, or lacked.

Does the kit not come with vacuum lines?Also what exactly do you mean by get EVERYTHING prior to the install? What did you have to get that you needed or lacked?And lastly, where can I get some new copper gaskets for the wastegate?
Thanks for the review.

when i say "everything" i mean all proper tools. like i said, i was unprepared, so make sure you have a torque wrench, socket wrench and set, open wrench and set (very important for the manifold removal , first 02 sensor, and oil pan removal). buy the oil pan sealant, seize compound, teflon tape, vacuum lines (no they dont come with the kit), copper gaskets (you cant get them from kenny at ZPI), metric and standard allen keys, 2 2-inch bolts/nuts (____ i forgot what thread, manifold gasket, and any other tool you can think of: screw drivers, mallet, hacksaw, oo ooo breaker bars! definitely need breaker bars to get the spipe off.

when i say "everything" i mean all proper tools. like i said, i was unprepared, so make sure you have a torque wrench, socket wrench and set, open wrench and set (very important for the manifold removal , first 02 sensor, and oil pan removal). buy the oil pan sealant, seize compound, teflon tape, vacuum lines (no they dont come with the kit), copper gaskets (you cant get them from kenny at ZPI), metric and standard allen keys, 2 2-inch bolts/nuts (poop i forgot what thread, manifold gasket, and any other tool you can think of: screw drivers, mallet, hacksaw, oo ooo breaker bars! definitely need breaker bars to get the spipe off.

Well, it should have come with vacuum line, but I think ZPI had some issues with double checking to make sure everything is in the box when it leaves.

hey, if you used teflon tape on your oil lines, I would remove them too if I were you and use some pipe compound instead...teflon tape isnt the greatest for wet applications...it may or may not leak but just giving you the heads up. Where in L.I are you located cause maybe we could finally get this stage 0 vs supercharged video up already :lalala:

i would prefer castration over removing another tC oil pan. :rofl:

-Joey

Does the kit not come with vacuum lines?Also what exactly do you mean by get EVERYTHING prior to the install? What did you have to get that you needed or lacked?And lastly, where can I get some new copper gaskets for the wastegate?
Thanks for the review.

I personally forgot to put the vaccum line and T's in his box. and for that, I apologize.. :lalala: :doh: :doh:

We have copper gaskets in stock. They are either $20 or $25 each. I'll be adding them to the web store shortly.. (my list of things to add never seems to shrink.. it's longer than Joey_WRX's list of traffic tickets!!!! :rolling: )

If anyone has suggestions, and i've taken a couple from this thread, email me and i'll make changes for v2.0 of my install documentation. It'll have more pictures, and things of that nature..

oh the teflon tape is only for the boost gauge adapter. everything else is oil pan sealant, or compound (sciondad, 2005). hahaha, like my APA style citation?

oh the teflon tape is only for the boost gauge adapter. everything else is oil pan sealant, or compound (sciondad, 2005). hahaha, like my APA style reference?

lol...

when i say "everything" i mean all proper tools. like i said, i was unprepared, so make sure you have a torque wrench, socket wrench and set, open wrench and set (very important for the manifold removal , first 02 sensor, and oil pan removal). buy the oil pan sealant, seize compound, teflon tape, vacuum lines (no they dont come with the kit), copper gaskets (you cant get them from kenny at ZPI), metric and standard allen keys, 2 2-inch bolts/nuts (poop i forgot what thread, manifold gasket, and any other tool you can think of: screw drivers, mallet, hacksaw, oo ooo breaker bars! definitely need breaker bars to get the spipe off.

Thanks dude, I'm gonna have to see if I can get some copper gaskets.

so whatup Unseen, you down to make this stage 0 vs supercharged video since everyone wants to see it :come: :lalala:

yeah as soon as my car is in peak condition. i am not much of a racer, so we're going to have to figure something out to claim an unbiased win.

whatevers clever, you let me know...we will figure it out.

yeah as soon as my car is in peak condition. i am not much of a racer, so we're going to have to figure something out to claim an unbiased win.

He's not much of a racer either. He's running a stock supercharged TC. Meaning he is running nothing but the supercharger bolted on to a stock TC. What are you scared of. I won't even bother racing you. It just wouldn't be fair for you at all :rofl: :rofl:

yeah as soon as my car is in peak condition. i am not much of a racer, so we're going to have to figure something out to claim an unbiased win.

He's not much of a racer either. He's running a stock supercharged TC. Meaning he is running nothing but the supercharger bolted on to a stock TC. What are you scared of. I won't even bother racing you. It just wouldn't be fair for you at all :rofl: :rofl:

Modified SC means modified Turbo.... You against a ZPI stage 1.....
:lalala:

Yea, no it wouldn't.

But unseen is referring to skills, I bet.

In anycase, I would rather see an unmodded sc tC race a stage 0.

A modded sc vs a stage 0 w/ FMIC and Emanage might be better.

yeah as soon as my car is in peak condition. i am not much of a racer, so we're going to have to figure something out to claim an unbiased win.

He's not much of a racer either. He's running a stock supercharged TC. Meaning he is running nothing but the supercharger bolted on to a stock TC. What are you scared of. I won't even bother racing you. It just wouldn't be fair for you at all :rofl: :rofl:

Modified SC means modified Turbo.... You against a ZPI stage 1.....
:lalala:

I gotta step down to that one for now :nails:
You definitely got me there...I think depending on his driving skills it will be a good show for everyone...he better get it running right before the first week of january though :lalala:

yeah as soon as my car is in peak condition. i am not much of a racer, so we're going to have to figure something out to claim an unbiased win.

He's not much of a racer either. He's running a stock supercharged TC. Meaning he is running nothing but the supercharger bolted on to a stock TC. What are you scared of. I won't even bother racing you. It just wouldn't be fair for you at all :rofl: :rofl:

Modified SC means modified Turbo.... You against a ZPI stage 1.....
:lalala:
I would gladly race a stage 1 with my car. Too bad non of them exist, other than the ones that drove to where they came from hahahahaa. Get me a stage 1 that is local to me when the tracks open back up, and I will gladly put this nonsence to rest rather quickly.

yeah as soon as my car is in peak condition. i am not much of a racer, so we're going to have to figure something out to claim an unbiased win.

He's not much of a racer either. He's running a stock supercharged TC. Meaning he is running nothing but the supercharger bolted on to a stock TC. What are you scared of. I won't even bother racing you. It just wouldn't be fair for you at all :rofl: :rofl:

Modified SC means modified Turbo.... You against a ZPI stage 1.....
:lalala:

I gotta step down to that one for now :nails:
You definitely got me there...I think depending on his driving skills it will be a good show for everyone...he better get it running right before the first week of january though :lalala:

:clap: It would be cool to see.

Track runs aren't difficult to learn. He would learn pretty quick. I agree, a stage 0 with FMIC produces over 250 whp according to dyno's....so that would be a good run with a minor modded SC.

Hey Unseen, if you need any help with anything dealing with the turbo Im probly no more than 30 mins away from you...if you got any questions shoot me a pm and I will throw you my cell number.

Hey Unseen, if you need any help with anything dealing with the turbo Im probly no more than 30 mins away from you...if you got any questions shoot me a pm and I will throw you my cell number.

:bow: What an offer.

You guys need to get the Scion club going and represent some sweet power up there.

check the sig...were pimpin all over the world :lalala:

check the sig...were pimpin all over the world :lalala:

You gatta convince unseen to get in the fold. I've chatted with him many times...great guy.

We are open to all, we dont discriminate...although I will make him a deal, hes gotta be able to beat me 2 outta 3 times to get in :P :rofl:
J/K Unseen...check out www.teamscionrg.com if your interested

I won't even bother racing you. It just wouldn't be fair for you at all :rofl: :rofl:


I'm not one to really start stuff with people, but EVERY time I see your post, all I can think about is that you must be one of the BIGGEST EGOtistical A#$holes I've ever heard. You talk so much game about your SC, it's starting to make me barf. Dude, seriously, post vids, pics, time slips, or something. Otherwise you are just blowing smoke.

You are far from a humbling person. When ScionDad boosted his daughters TC, didn't see post about how he can beat everyone now. Unseen dosen't seem like the type person to get a big head either after going boost. But you on the other hand, seems that you don't hesitate to talk about how SOOOOO much better your SC is over apparently every other setup on this board. If you have posted 1/4 #'s or even a vid for that matter, and I have missed it, then please by all means direct me to the nearest thread to gander at your SO CALLED Stage 1 killer.

I won't even bother racing you. It just wouldn't be fair for you at all :rofl: :rofl:


I'm not one to really start stuff with people, but EVERY time I see your post, all I can think about is that you must be one of the BIGGEST EGOtistical A#$holes I've ever heard. You talk so much game about your SC, it's starting to make me barf. Dude, seriously, post vids, pics, time slips, or something. Otherwise you are just blowing smoke.

You are far from a humbling person. When ScionDad boosted his daughters TC, didn't see post about how he can beat everyone now. Unseen dosen't seem like the type person to get a big head either after going boost. But you on the other hand, seems that you don't hesitate to talk about how SOOOOO much better your SC is over apparently every other setup on this board. If you have posted 1/4 #'s or even a vid for that matter, and I have missed it, then please by all means direct me to the nearest thread to gander at your SO CALLED Stage 1 killer.

I'm the only supercharged TC I know of running 12psi :loser: .If you don't like what I write..................DON'T READ IT. If you don't like me.............TOO BAD :rofl: . If you think you can beat me.......................bring your car to NJ when the track opens back up. UNtil then STFU and stop your BLOODCLOT CRYING BOTTY BWOY :loser: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:yawn:

Someone is speaking Patois... lol

I won't even bother racing you. It just wouldn't be fair for you at all :rofl: :rofl:


I'm not one to really start stuff with people, but EVERY time I see your post, all I can think about is that you must be one of the BIGGEST EGOtistical A#$holes I've ever heard. You talk so much game about your SC, it's starting to make me barf. Dude, seriously, post vids, pics, time slips, or something. Otherwise you are just blowing smoke.

You are far from a humbling person. When ScionDad boosted his daughters TC, didn't see post about how he can beat everyone now. Unseen dosen't seem like the type person to get a big head either after going boost. But you on the other hand, seems that you don't hesitate to talk about how SOOOOO much better your SC is over apparently every other setup on this board. If you have posted 1/4 #'s or even a vid for that matter, and I have missed it, then please by all means direct me to the nearest thread to gander at your SO CALLED Stage 1 killer.

I'm the only supercharged TC I know of running 12psi :loser: .If you don't like what I write..................DON'T READ IT. If you don't like me.............TOO BAD :rofl: . If you think you can beat me.......................bring your car to NJ when the track opens back up. UNtil then STFU and stop your BLOODCLOT CRYING BOTTY BWOY :loser: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Munch, that's really not necessary. Just as it wasn't necessary of your comment to unseen. That's why alot of people don't post up their power mods. Besides, I hate to break the news to ya....but 12 psi is old news. :rofl: The turbo crowd has been doing that for well over 9 months and working on much more. :lalala:

But I admit, I enjoy guys with your attitude, because someone with more money and more resources and more time will let you talk your way into handing them the title to your car.... :rofl:

Hey Sciondad, not stirring sh!t up just needed to throw out that you guys are right about the 12 psi thing but that was on a turbo, not a supercharger. 14 psi was a milestone for a turbo tC, hitting 12 psi w/ the supercharger is just as big of a milestone if you ask me :P
Just to remind you guys also, everyone knows eachother on this website and everyone should realize that there is always someone out there that doesnt waste their time on forums and has the sickest setup all to themselves that nobody knows about. I bet there are tC's running low 11's out there that we dont know of, Im sure theres gotta be some superchargers running a custom pulley setup like Munch w/ 14 psi...who knows...all I can say is I gotta stick by Munch and agree that he has the baddest s/c setup that I KNOW of around right now. Another note, keep personal feelings about others outta the post cause not for nothing Rythmnsmoke, you dont know one thing about the guy...I will step up and say that he is one of my boys, and is probly one of the nicest people around, and I think everything is just getting taken to heart at this point.
Anyway, Rythmnsmoke, you need to bring your A$$ up here so you two can battle it out the gentleman way....On the track :lalala:

Munch, that's really not necessary. Just as it wasn't necessary of your comment to unseen. That's why alot of people don't post up their power mods. Besides, I hate to break the news to ya....but 12 psi is old news. :rofl: The turbo crowd has been doing that for well over 9 months and working on much more. :lalala:

But I admit, I enjoy guys with your attitude, because someone with more money and more resources and more time will let you talk your way into handing them the title to your car.... :rofl:

That's right daddy. Keep kissing ___ backside hahahahaha. Please pops. I was running 23psi on a everyday driven Eclipse 3 years ago, on a TD04E. I wasn't talking about a turbo in my post either. I said it once and ill say it again. I'm the only one I know of running 12psi on a TRD SUPERCHARGER. I hope you can understand that part now. There is much more to my setup than that. If you care to find out what..............bring it to the track. Street racing is for idiots, so I won't even go there. The videos that are posted of idiots racing down public streets just kill me. If there are so many turboed TC's out there..............then where the hell are they hahahaha. Nobody will ever get my car in a race. That has got to be the dummest thing I have ever seen posted by you. I guess the old saying "the older you get the wiser you get" dosent apply here. Anyone that has a problem with me, feel free to pm me at anytime. I could use a good laugh.

It's great you got 12 PSI Munch. Thanks for sharing......next :lalala:


:rofl:

Anyway, Rythmnsmoke, you need to bring your A$$ up here so you two can battle it out the gentleman way....On the track :lalala:

Why don't you come to the dirty south.



I'm the only supercharged TC I know of running 12psi Loser .If you don't like what I write..................DON'T READ IT. If you don't like me.............TOO BAD Roll On Floor Laughing . If you think you can beat me.......................bring your car to NJ when the track opens back up. UNtil then STFU and stop your BLOODCLOT CRYING BOTTY BWOY Loser Roll On Floor Laughing Roll On Floor Laughing Roll On Floor Laughing Roll On Floor Laughing


AHAAAAHHHAAAA...... :rofl: It's funny because when I read your post about your S/C, I tend to think of a little philosophy. "Men who often talk about their manhood, usually have small ones". 12psi..huh, so where are your #'s then sir? No dyno #'s to back you up. Wait let me guess, all dyno shops in NJ shut down for the winter. No, wait it's a BIG hush hush ungodly amount of hp, that no one is worthy of knowing about. :blah: Last time I recall, didn't Kenny call you out? I don't tip my hat off to you just because you vomit at the keyboard with how much better your S/C is, but yet you don't back it up with any real facts. Like the saying goes, "You can Talk the Talk, but can you Walk the Walk". And at this point, there is no evidence or shred of proof that you are running 12psi other than the stroke of keys coming out of your keyboard. :eyebrow:

Put up or shut up is all I'm saying bro. Show me a what a 12psi S/C can do, then I will tilt my brim to you, other than that, stop using the pump tube to make your balls larger and pretend that you were born that way.

Anyway, Rythmnsmoke, you need to bring your A$$ up here so you two can battle it out the gentleman way....On the track :lalala:

Why don't you come to the dirty south.



I'm the only supercharged TC I know of running 12psi Loser .If you don't like what I write..................DON'T READ IT. If you don't like me.............TOO BAD Roll On Floor Laughing . If you think you can beat me.......................bring your car to NJ when the track opens back up. UNtil then STFU and stop your BLOODCLOT CRYING BOTTY BWOY Loser Roll On Floor Laughing Roll On Floor Laughing Roll On Floor Laughing Roll On Floor Laughing


AHAAAAHHHAAAA...... :rofl: It's funny because when I read your post about your S/C, I tend to think of a little philosophy. "Men who often talk about their manhood, usually have small ones". 12psi..huh, so where are your #'s then sir? No dyno #'s to back you up. Wait let me guess, all dyno shops in NJ shut down for the winter. No, wait it's a BIG hush hush ungodly amount of hp, that no one is worthy of knowing about. :blah: Last time I recall, didn't Kenny call you out? I don't tip my hat off to you just because you vomit at the keyboard with how much better your S/C is, but yet you don't back it up with any real facts. Like the saying goes, "You can Talk the Talk, but can you Walk the Walk". And at this point, there is no evidence or shred of proof that you are running 12psi other than the stroke of keys coming out of your keyboard. :eyebrow:

Put up or shut up is all I'm saying bro. Show me a what a 12psi S/C can do, then I will tilt my brim to you, other than that, stop using the pump tube to make your balls larger and pretend that you were born that way.

:shock: :rofl:

Anyway, Rythmnsmoke, you need to bring your A$$ up here so you two can battle it out the gentleman way....On the track :lalala:

Why don't you come to the dirty south.



I'm the only supercharged TC I know of running 12psi Loser .If you don't like what I write..................DON'T READ IT. If you don't like me.............TOO BAD Roll On Floor Laughing . If you think you can beat me.......................bring your car to NJ when the track opens back up. UNtil then STFU and stop your BLOODCLOT CRYING BOTTY BWOY Loser Roll On Floor Laughing Roll On Floor Laughing Roll On Floor Laughing Roll On Floor Laughing


AHAAAAHHHAAAA...... :rofl: It's funny because when I read your post about your S/C, I tend to think of a little philosophy. "Men who often talk about their manhood, usually have small ones". 12psi..huh, so where are your #'s then sir? No dyno #'s to back you up. Wait let me guess, all dyno shops in NJ shut down for the winter. No, wait it's a BIG hush hush ungodly amount of hp, that no one is worthy of knowing about. :blah: Last time I recall, didn't Kenny call you out? I don't tip my hat off to you just because you vomit at the keyboard with how much better your S/C is, but yet you don't back it up with any real facts. Like the saying goes, "You can Talk the Talk, but can you Walk the Walk". And at this point, there is no evidence or shred of proof that you are running 12psi other than the stroke of keys coming out of your keyboard. :eyebrow:

Put up or shut up is all I'm saying bro. Show me a what a 12psi S/C can do, then I will tilt my brim to you, other than that, stop using the pump tube to make your balls larger and pretend that you were born that way.

:rofl: I'm not surprised by your post :rofl: Just keep waiting for your turbo kit there little buddy, because that is just what you'll be doing while I'm enjoying my supercharger :rofl: My car was dyno tuned when I put my Unichip in more than 1 month ago. I don't have to post anything on here, because I enjoy seeing other people do it and get criticized, because of the results they get. Like the intake thread. If you ever get your bogus pee peep eye turbo kit :rofl: . I'll drive to VA, which is halfway to you, when the tracks are open. Then we will see who's kit was worth it. Night Night little dude :loser: You've got nothing but time on your hands because you'll be waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting :cry:

Anyway, Rythmnsmoke, you need to bring your A$$ up here so you two can battle it out the gentleman way....On the track :lalala:

Why don't you come to the dirty south.



I'm the only supercharged TC I know of running 12psi Loser .If you don't like what I write..................DON'T READ IT. If you don't like me.............TOO BAD Roll On Floor Laughing . If you think you can beat me.......................bring your car to NJ when the track opens back up. UNtil then STFU and stop your BLOODCLOT CRYING BOTTY BWOY Loser Roll On Floor Laughing Roll On Floor Laughing Roll On Floor Laughing Roll On Floor Laughing


AHAAAAHHHAAAA...... :rofl: It's funny because when I read your post about your S/C, I tend to think of a little philosophy. "Men who often talk about their manhood, usually have small ones". 12psi..huh, so where are your #'s then sir? No dyno #'s to back you up. Wait let me guess, all dyno shops in NJ shut down for the winter. No, wait it's a BIG hush hush ungodly amount of hp, that no one is worthy of knowing about. :blah: Last time I recall, didn't Kenny call you out? I don't tip my hat off to you just because you vomit at the keyboard with how much better your S/C is, but yet you don't back it up with any real facts. Like the saying goes, "You can Talk the Talk, but can you Walk the Walk". And at this point, there is no evidence or shred of proof that you are running 12psi other than the stroke of keys coming out of your keyboard. :eyebrow:

Put up or shut up is all I'm saying bro. Show me a what a 12psi S/C can do, then I will tilt my brim to you, other than that, stop using the pump tube to make your balls larger and pretend that you were born that way.

:rofl: I'm not surprised by your post :rofl: Just keep waiting for your turbo kit there little buddy, because that is just what you'll be doing while I'm enjoying my supercharger :rofl: My car was dyno tuned when I put my Unichip in more than 1 month ago. I don't have to post anything on here, because I enjoy seeing other people do it and get criticized, because of the results they get. Like the intake thread. If you ever get your bogus pee peep eye turbo kit :rofl: . I'll drive to VA, which is halfway to you, when the tracks are open. Then we will see who's kit was worth it. Night Night little dude :loser: You've got nothing but time on your hands because you'll be waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting :cry:

Dude. You talk so much sh1t and yet there is nothing out there to back it up. The penis analogy is perfect...if you need to justify buying a supercharger do less talk and bring some results.

That's right daddy. Keep kissing ___ backside hahahahaha. Please pops. I was running 23psi on a everyday driven Eclipse 3 years ago, on a TD04E. I wasn't talking about a turbo in my post either. I said it once and ill say it again. I'm the only one I know of running 12psi on a TRD SUPERCHARGER. I hope you can understand that part now. There is much more to my setup than that. If you care to find out what..............bring it to the track. Street racing is for idiots, so I won't even go there. The videos that are posted of idiots racing down public streets just kill me. If there are so many turboed TC's out there..............then where the hell are they hahahaha. Nobody will ever get my car in a race. That has got to be the dummest thing I have ever seen posted by you. I guess the old saying "the older you get the wiser you get" dosent apply here. Anyone that has a problem with me, feel free to pm me at anytime. I could use a good laugh.

You're a moron. You're 32? You act like a 13 yr old. Surely, no widsom there.


If you don't like what rhythmnsmoke, Sciondad, and anyone else, and I say about you, DON'T READ IT.

If you think you can impress anyone here........................ bring your car to any track you'd like and post some numbers. Until then STFU and stop your BLOODCLOT CRYING BOTTY BWOY.

Dude. You talk so much sh1t and yet there is nothing out there to back it up. The penis analogy is perfect...if you need to justify buying a supercharger do less talk and bring some results.

:rofl: Alright PINKY :rofl:

You're a moron. You're 32? You act like a 13 yr old. Surely, no widsom there.


If you don't like what rhythmnsmoke, Sciondad, and anyone else, and I say about you, DON'T READ IT.

If you think you can impress anyone here........................ bring your car to any track you'd like and post some numbers. Until then STFU and stop your BLOODCLOT CRYING BOTTY BWOY.

1. Can you even change your own oil..............................I didn't think so :loser: I build cars, you probably pay people to work on your car. I've been in this car game probably longer than you've been breathing.
2.Same goes to you and anyone else :loser:
3.I don't need to impress anyone here. This website is SCIONLIFE.COM, not MYLIFE.COM. Now you can goto GETALIFE.COM and buy one. The local peeps know my car well. That's all the justification I will ever need :P .
4. Do you even know what that saying means? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I highly doubt it. I have a few others but I won't even waste my time with you :blah: .

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Anyway, Rythmnsmoke, you need to bring your A$$ up here so you two can battle it out the gentleman way....On the track :lalala:

Why don't you come to the dirty south.

I absolutely will, Pm me your info and I will drive out there to settle this once and for all(how about say this weekend coming up??). Wanna know the problem with Long Island NY, theres no tracks anymore cause we all got shut down. Thats why I suggested Jersey cause everyone knows Englishtown. This thread is turning into personal shots and its kind of disgusting honestly. I will be the last person posting dyno sheets and track times on here, didnt do it with the xB, wont do it with the tC. Id rather everyone find out for themselves, as well as me find out for myself what my car can or cant do. Now Rythmnsmoke, I will give you 1 month to give me your info and what track on your territory we are going to, then after that if you cant produce then I would hope this all will come to an end. A lot of people forget too that it doesnt matter how much power you really have, if you cant drive for sh!t then it dont matter. I learned that real quick with my ***whp xB at only 6 psi....kind of shocked the hell outta many people, and I think I may have caused a relationship breakup cause the girl was a lil embarassed that her boyfriends car got beat by a box :P
Now anyway, its 12/17, I expect a PM response by no later than 1/17 Rythmnsmoke. Dont take this personal, but I really have a feeling that Im not gonna hear back from you by then and I dont know if you will be ready for this challenge. Its just a friendly challenge, no more, no less. I know I will have less HP than you, thats not an issue to me cause I am confident about my driving skills so I think all in all it will be a good race.

You guys gotta let me know if this track meet goes down. Simplyscion and Munch, I would like to make the trip if I could.

You guys gotta let me know if this track meet goes down. Simplyscion and Munch, I would like to make the trip if I could.

No prob :P
I just hope it happens soon, I need to hit some warm weather for a lil bit :rofl:

Hey pappy :shock: . That's what the ladies have been calling me for years, and they love it :rofl: . You can now go and clean the chocolate stains off your lips :eyes: :clap: . You have got to be one of the best @$$ kissers in the industry right now :rolling: . Keep reppin your favorite company and I'll keep reppin mine. Without the backside kissing like you :lalala: . I'm not mad at you. I love a good verbal war every now and then. I can take it as well as dish it out :loser: . But isn't it time for your Geritol and heart medication :eyebrow: :lalala: .

You're a moron. You're 32? You act like a 13 yr old. Surely, no widsom there.


If you don't like what rhythmnsmoke, Sciondad, and anyone else, and I say about you, DON'T READ IT.

If you think you can impress anyone here........................ bring your car to any track you'd like and post some numbers. Until then STFU and stop your BLOODCLOT CRYING BOTTY BWOY.

1. Can you even change your own oil..............................I didn't think so :loser: I build cars, you prpobably pay people to work on your car. I've been in this car game probably longer than you've been breathing.
2.Same goes to you and anyone else :loser:
3.I don't need to impress anyone here. This website is SCIONLIFE.COM, not MYLIFE.COM. Now you can goto GETALIFE.COM and buy one. The local peeps know my car well. That's all the justification I will ever need :P .
4. Do you even know what that saying means? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I highly doubt it. I have a few others but I won't even waste my time with you :blah: .

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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:rofl: Scionlife needs an archive section to put all these good threads... :rofl:

:rofl: Scionlife needs an archive section to put all these good threads... :rofl:
:rofl: :doh:

I absolutely will, Pm me your info and I will drive out there to settle this once and for all(how about say this weekend coming up??). Wanna know the problem with Long Island NY, theres no tracks anymore cause we all got shut down. Thats why I suggested Jersey cause everyone knows Englishtown. This thread is turning into personal shots and its kind of disgusting honestly. I will be the last person posting dyno sheets and track times on here, didnt do it with the xB, wont do it with the tC. Id rather everyone find out for themselves, as well as me find out for myself what my car can or cant do. Now Rythmnsmoke, I will give you 1 month to give me your info and what track on your territory we are going to, then after that if you cant produce then I would hope this all will come to an end. A lot of people forget too that it doesnt matter how much power you really have, if you cant drive for sh!t then it dont matter. I learned that real quick with my ***whp xB at only 6 psi....kind of shocked the hell outta many people, and I think I may have caused a relationship breakup cause the girl was a lil embarassed that her boyfriends car got beat by a box :P
Now anyway, its 12/17, I expect a PM response by no later than 1/17 Rythmnsmoke. Dont take this personal, but I really have a feeling that Im not gonna hear back from you by then and I dont know if you will be ready for this challenge. Its just a friendly challenge, no more, no less. I know I will have less HP than you, thats not an issue to me cause I am confident about my driving skills so I think all in all it will be a good race.


I'm not sure if you follow the thread on a regular. But if you do, then you might be familar with the thread that I made about our old BCP being Totaled. We now rock a BSP TC, and have had it for a mere 3 or 4 weeks. This basically boils down to that our car is still a Virgin. So, on the contrary, I have less horsepower than you. We just actually got back from KY today. We got tint, H-techs and the DCSport strut bar while we were up there. Clayton1 came with us, and scored a new ZPI cat-back, and it hauls a@#.

Where you are misreading my post, is that I'm not on here trying to talk about how big my shlong is(Munch). I'm not an arrogant person, and Martial Arts teaches you to be humble in nature(isn't that right ScionDad?) Apparently he(Munch) annoys more than just me. Anyhow, just because the BSP has not been DeVirginized dosen't mean that I don't enjoy a good race still. I'll race with you regardless. But what would be even sweeter is if you roll down to KY and we will roll up to KY and meet there (saves you a little gas, and there we can run boost against boost).

Just FYI, Kenny is going to be hosting a Scion Race day in Louisville. This will be the perfect time for us to meet. Talk is, it's going to be around spring time. Munch, if you don't show up to this event, then you will officially be the poster boy for ENZYTE... :silly: I would also expect you to be there too SimplyScion.


By the way PM..sent (cause I actually sound off like I got a pair)

1. Can you even change your own oil..............................I didn't think so :loser: I build cars, you probably pay people to work on your car. I've been in this car game probably longer than you've been breathing.
2.Same goes to you and anyone else :loser:
3.I don't need to impress anyone here. This website is SCIONLIFE.COM, not MYLIFE.COM. Now you can goto GETALIFE.COM and buy one. The local peeps know my car well. That's all the justification I will ever need :P .
4. Do you even know what that saying means? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I highly doubt it. I have a few others but I won't even waste my time with you :blah: .

1. Can you? Prove it. You don't want to? You don't need to? It's just the internet? It's just a forum? You've been boasting and bragging and bashing (that's alliteration; I thought it was a good spot to add some poetic rhetoric as this particular thread lacks that.. do you even know what alliteration means? I didn't so, loser. Did you? Oh my, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to assume, _______.) Aside from that you assumed I'm some kid and/or assumed that I don't ever work on my own car and/or assumed that I don't build cars (that's called anaphora, or, more specifically, polysyndeton - I'm assuming this time that you know what that means) I do believe that you're knowledgeable so don't think that I feel superior to you, relative to automotive.

2. This applies to anyone who is asinine enough to believe that he or she, for one or another reason, is superior to all others for that one reason. But, Munch, in your case, you believe or appear to believe that because of your super duper charger, you are greater than anyone else, especially anyone who has a turbocharger.

3. For reasons unknown, you have repeatedly asserted, boastfully, your amazing speed due to unmentioned mods to your supercharger. I feel it is necessary to remind you that you don't need to impress anyone here.

4. Do you even understand half of the things I have mentioned? It wouldn't matter, because you wouldn't waste your time with me. No, you would never deign to answer anything to me. You never need to be justified by anyone other than the peeps in your local area. Yet, you still need to be justified. You still need to answer to someone you won't waste your time with.



For someone who enjoys verbal warfare, you are a rather poor combatant. Smileys don't add to your argument. Making invalid and incorrect assumptions or implications does not add to your argument. Little play-ons that you deem as clever and witty such as "GETALIFE.com" does not add to your argument.

Overall, your, I suppose, verbal "attack" did little more than to show how immature you are. To summarize your jab at me, you accused me of being a kid who does not know how to change oil and pays others to work on his or her car and has no life. Notice, you have not once acknowledged my inital shot, that you're a moron for thinking that you can, with your opinion, attack people and expect that people won't in turn attack you with their opinions.

One may ask why I waste my time with people like you. I enjoy a verbal sparring match. I don't reveal much about my life online but I'll reveal that English is a big part of it. Before you get into any further "verbal matches" you should consider, for a moment, that language arts is not one of your strong points.

Do you even know what I just said? I didn't think so.


In any event, I don't doubt you know your way around a car; that doesn't allow you to be an _______.



Note, if you followed my post, you should notice a motif. I analyzed for you the first part of my post; if you can decrypt the several levels of my attack on you, I'll be very impressed.

Where were we..

Mods, if one of you decides to clean up this mess, please leave intact what is below!

I would like to hear more from unseen. Unseen, I, on behalf of many of us, I'm sure, apologize for taking this thread so far off course. I would like to hear progress with your turbo install. How is the idling now?

1. Can you even change your own oil..............................I didn't think so :loser: I build cars, you probably pay people to work on your car. I've been in this car game probably longer than you've been breathing.
2.Same goes to you and anyone else :loser:
3.I don't need to impress anyone here. This website is SCIONLIFE.COM, not MYLIFE.COM. Now you can goto GETALIFE.COM and buy one. The local peeps know my car well. That's all the justification I will ever need :P .
4. Do you even know what that saying means? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I highly doubt it. I have a few others but I won't even waste my time with you :blah: .

1. Can you? Prove it. You don't want to? You don't need to? It's just the internet? It's just a forum? You've been boasting and bragging and bashing (that's alliteration; I thought it was a good spot to add some poetic rhetoric as this particular thread lacks that.. do you even know what alliteration means? I didn't so, loser. Did you? Oh my, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to assume, butthole.) Aside from that you assumed I'm some kid and/or assumed that I don't ever work on my own car and/or assumed that I don't build cars (that's called anaphora, or, more specifically, polysyndeton - I'm assuming this time that you know what that means) I do believe that you're knowledgeable so don't think that I feel superior to you, relative to automotive.

2. This applies to anyone who is asinine enough to believe that he or she, for one or another reason, is superior to all others for that one reason. But, Munch, in your case, you believe or appear to believe that because of your super duper charger, you are greater than anyone else, especially anyone who has a turbocharger.

3. For reasons unknown, you have repeatedly asserted, boastfully, your amazing speed due to unmentioned mods to your supercharger. I feel it is necessary to remind you that you don't need to impress anyone here.

4. Do you even understand half of the things I have mentioned? It wouldn't matter, because you wouldn't waste your time with me. No, you would never deign to answer anything to me. You never need to be justified by anyone other than the peeps in your local area. Yet, you still need to be justified. You still need to answer to someone you won't waste your time with.



For someone who enjoys verbal warfare, you are a rather poor combatant. Smileys don't add to your argument. Making invalid and incorrect assumptions or implications does not add to your argument. Little play-ons that you deem as clever and witty such as "GETALIFE.com" does not add to your argument.

Overall, your, I suppose, verbal "attack" did little more than to show how immature you are. To summarize your jab at me, you accused me of being a kid who does not know how to change oil and pays others to work on his or her car and has no life. Notice, you have not once acknowledged my inital shot, that you're a moron for thinking that you can, with your opinion, attack people and expect that people won't in turn attack you with their opinions.

One may ask why I waste my time with people like you. I enjoy a verbal sparring match. I don't reveal much about my life online but I'll reveal that English is a big part of it. Before you get into any further "verbal matches" you should consider, for a moment, that language arts is not one of your strong points.

Do you even know what I just said? I didn't think so.


In any event, I don't doubt you know your way around a car; that doesn't allow you to be an butthole.



Note, if you followed my post, you should notice a motif. I analyzed for you the first part of my post; if you can decrypt the several levels of my attack on you, I'll be very impressed.

Where were we..

Mods, if one of you decides to clean up this mess, please leave intact what is below!

I would like to hear more from unseen. Unseen, I, on behalf of many of us, I'm sure, apologize for taking this thread so far off course. I would like to hear progress with your turbo install. How is the idling now?

Next time, read everything you write CAREFULLY. Then you won't make as many mistakes typing because you're angry :lalala: . If you think language arts is one of your strong points. You've got some issues you need worked out :blah: .

12 PSI on the TRD S/C eh?

Dyno Sheet Please......

Next time, read everything you write CAREFULLY. Then you won't make as many mistakes typing because you're angry :lalala: . If you think language arts is one of your strong points. You've got some issues you need worked out :blah: .
:wink:

thats a monster car sciondad

this is some funny ____.......

i love the fact that you people like to use the argument of not wasting time on replying, but yet do, munch these....BWOYs ...really really need to find somethin better to do they all gettin so caught up on how they think ur bashing turboed tc's like THEY got a lil problem, first of all...hes tryin to say that his tc has the sickest SC set up, n ill vouch for that, and also that theres only...2 turboed setups...and eehhmmm i dun wanna say nethin bout that, and back to the race, its the driver, unless of course there is a couple hundred hp difference, but wit sucha small amout of boost on a turbo it dun seem like ur gonna get that ne time soon.... only if they knew wat was in store for ur carloll..n the best is how they think they know u...and seen ur penis...damn bro u got some stalkerslol....neway samurai...ur the big man here....spittin out what my 6th grade teacher was rambling about, if u were so mature ud be able to keep ur head high and ignore wat munch is sayin to u...but ofcourse u DO reply..oh n wtf is the tiny ___ font for?tryin to hide somethin?or ur jus used to lookin through a magnifying glass... oh and u doubt he knows his way around a carlollmao...ok so y rnt u working for a car company building cars and designing them?...oh and sry man no one wants ur opinion!!!oh and just to add...um if ur english is soo damn good and u wanna brag about how other people arnt as cool as u cuz u know definitions n think u can psychoanalyze somone through the internet...wow kid, english definately will not help u in life unless u do somethin useful about it like go teach and make a lil army of ur idiotic perseption so our lil kiddies got someone to have verbal wars witlol, n stop usin it as a defense...cuz last time i checked no one talked their way outa gettin their...wait i shouldnt saylol it might be too vulgar for u lil _____clot botty bowyslollmao hahaha...as for everyone on here....i dont know neone...im not tryin to rank on neone, just as no one knows me, n wouldnt want people rankin on me, but im jus havin a lil fun wit the samurailol, oh and im jus statin wat i see as a neutral.

sciondad...wow man, wow u of all i would think would have a brain talkin bout how old u are n how u work on ur daughters car.......but i was wrong....go play wit urself...oh even better ur brother ahaha incest mutha____s hahaha btw car looks good...u should definatly try to get it known maybe theyll use it in the next batmanlmao "robin blow me" hahaha damn i love havin free time on sundaylol

oh and rhythm...damn bro u sure talk ____ for not havin nethin done to ur "BSP" omg paint is extra hp...omg tint!!!oh no strut bar, OHHH wow H-Techs!!!dude ur ____ is powerfull!!!! and wtf is up wit talkin about munchs dick and being devirginized in the same paragraph hahalmao oh and waht do u know about martial arts? i assume by that comment u are learning an art? or i could jus be makin an ___ outa u n me lol i would like to know which. cuz ur sensei shouldve taught u better.


this truely is a funny f*king thread haha im srry guys especially u sciondad i didnt mean to get ne feelings here its jus the internet...its jus words....isnt that right mr. samurai!? and once again i didnt mean to point this to neone personally ...its jus wat i get from reading this thread.

blah blah blah.

im not trying to be an ___, but i couldnt even read your post because i couldnt get passed all the devoid attempts at typing in ebonics. its one thing to talk like that, but to type like that is completely asinine.

-joey

hahaha nah its called using AIM too much n the fact that i only will use good INGRESH to those who deserve it...n stop tryin to get at me unless of course u have somethin against me. or maybe its jus a new york thing...i know how u mid land guys like to say things like that

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You know, the sad part is, I never had anything against Munch......with the exception of him always smacking down everyone else. It's this crap that ruins forums....and if you go thru every thread from ZPI....see where the topic gets a negative shift and who did it.

So, put the thread back on topic for unseen or lock it.

How can you even talk trash on ScionDad dude? ScionDad has provided tC owners, especally AUTOMATIC owners with very good knowledge, and good DIY write ups, and excellent reviews of products!

You sir are in the wrong, and need not to post again.

neway unseen its been a few days...hows the kit comin along, its bout time we gettin close to a turboed tc on LI

i think its about time we see Dyno Sheets from Munch

i love the fact that you people like to use the argument of not wasting time on replying, but yet do, munch these....BWOYs ...really really need to find somethin better to do they all gettin so caught up on how they think ur bashing turboed tc's like THEY got a lil problem, first of all...hes tryin to say that his tc has the sickest SC set up, n ill vouch for that, and also that theres only...2 turboed setups...and eehhmmm i dun wanna say nethin bout that, and back to the race, its the driver, unless of course there is a couple hundred hp difference, but wit sucha small amout of boost on a turbo it dun seem like ur gonna get that ne time soon.... only if they knew wat was in store for ur carloll..n the best is how they think they know u...and seen ur penis...damn bro u got some stalkerslol....neway samurai...ur the big man here....spittin out what my 6th grade teacher was rambling about, if u were so mature ud be able to keep ur head high and ignore wat munch is sayin to u...but ofcourse u DO reply..oh n wtf is the tiny butt font for?tryin to hide somethin?or ur jus used to lookin through a magnifying glass... oh and u doubt he knows his way around a carlollmao...ok so y rnt u working for a car company building cars and designing them?...oh and sry man no one wants ur opinion!!!oh and just to add...um if ur english is soo damn good and u wanna brag about how other people arnt as cool as u cuz u know definitions n think u can psychoanalyze somone through the internet...wow kid, english definately will not help u in life unless u do somethin useful about it like go teach and make a lil army of ur idiotic perseption so our lil kiddies got someone to have verbal wars witlol, n stop usin it as a defense...cuz last time i checked no one talked their way outa gettin their...wait i shouldnt saylol it might be too vulgar for u lil _____clot botty bowyslollmao hahaha...as for everyone on here....i dont know neone...im not tryin to rank on neone, just as no one knows me, n wouldnt want people rankin on me, but im jus havin a lil fun wit the samurailol, oh and im jus statin wat i see as a neutral.

sciondad...wow man, wow u of all i would think would have a brain talkin bout how old u are n how u work on ur daughters car.......but i was wrong....go play wit urself...oh even better ur brother ahaha incest mutha____s hahaha btw car looks good...u should definatly try to get it known maybe theyll use it in the next batmanlmao "robin blow me" hahaha damn i love havin free time on sundaylol

oh and rhythm...damn bro u sure talk poop for not havin nethin done to ur "BSP" omg paint is extra hp...omg tint!!!oh no strut bar, OHHH wow H-Techs!!!dude ur poop is powerfull!!!! and wtf is up wit talkin about munchs dick and being devirginized in the same paragraph hahalmao oh and waht do u know about martial arts? i assume by that comment u are learning an art? or i could jus be makin an butt outa u n me lol i would like to know which. cuz ur sensei shouldve taught u better.


this truely is a funny f*king thread haha im srry guys especially u sciondad i didnt mean to get ne feelings here its jus the internet...its jus words....isnt that right mr. samurai!? and once again i didnt mean to point this to neone personally ...its jus wat i get from reading this thread.


:yawn: I misplaced my Nothern dialect secret translator decoder ring. Can someone please paraphrase what the heck I just read. :silly:

i think its about time we see Dyno Sheets from Munch

I second that. Stage 0 dynoed at 247hp and 258tq I believe, and that was with a FMIC (which is optional).

Kosta- he wouldnt be the first turbo on LI, I know of at least one running around right now personally. It was a custom setup done by the guy that bent up my turbo back exhaust for the xB. Its flint mica, and it was done by a shop called Performance Authority in Selden NY.
Rythm- I think that stage 0 that was dyno'd also had an emanage and injectors besides for just an intercooler
Mods- Please lock this post before it gets any worse...I think everyone needs to smoke a joint together or something(or wait, am I the only one that does that :rofl: )
Everyone needs to relax

Kosta- he wouldnt be the first turbo on LI, I know of at least one running around right now personally. It was a custom setup done by the guy that bent up my turbo back exhaust for the xB. Its flint mica, and it was done by a shop called Performance Authority in Selden NY.
Rythm- I think that stage 0 that was dyno'd also had an emanage and injectors besides for just an intercooler
Mods- Please lock this post before it gets any worse...I think everyone needs to smoke a joint together or something(or wait, am I the only one that does that :rofl: )
Everyone needs to relax

:bow:

Kosta- he wouldnt be the first turbo on LI, I know of at least one running around right now personally. It was a custom setup done by the guy that bent up my turbo back exhaust for the xB. Its flint mica, and it was done by a shop called Performance Authority in Selden NY.
Rythm- I think that stage 0 that was dyno'd also had an emanage and injectors besides for just an intercooler
Mods- Please lock this post before it gets any worse...I think everyone needs to smoke a joint together or something(or wait, am I the only one that does that :rofl: )
Everyone needs to relax


Well, point was that it's Optional stuff they put on. I don't think it had injectors though, such a while ago, can't remember and don't feel like searching.

Kosta- he wouldnt be the first turbo on LI, I know of at least one running around right now personally. It was a custom setup done by the guy that bent up my turbo back exhaust for the xB. Its flint mica, and it was done by a shop called Performance Authority in Selden NY.
Rythm- I think that stage 0 that was dyno'd also had an emanage and injectors besides for just an intercooler
Mods- Please lock this post before it gets any worse...I think everyone needs to smoke a joint together or something(or wait, am I the only one that does that :rofl: )
Everyone needs to relax
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Kosta- he wouldnt be the first turbo on LI, I know of at least one running around right now personally. It was a custom setup done by the guy that bent up my turbo back exhaust for the xB. Its flint mica, and it was done by a shop called Performance Authority in Selden NY.
Rythm- I think that stage 0 that was dyno'd also had an emanage and injectors besides for just an intercooler
Mods- Please lock this post before it gets any worse...I think everyone needs to smoke a joint together or something(or wait, am I the only one that does that :rofl: )
Everyone needs to relax


Well, point was that it's Optional stuff they put on. I don't think it had injectors though, such a while ago, can't remember and don't feel like searching.

The dyno sheet I have is the only difference is the FMIC with the stage 0. No injectors or emanage and posted those numbers. With injectors and emanage, turn boost up and laying down close to 350 hp as a stage 1.

Kosta- he wouldnt be the first turbo on LI, I know of at least one running around right now personally. It was a custom setup done by the guy that bent up my turbo back exhaust for the xB. Its flint mica, and it was done by a shop called Performance Authority in Selden NY.
Rythm- I think that stage 0 that was dyno'd also had an emanage and injectors besides for just an intercooler
Mods- Please lock this post before it gets any worse...I think everyone needs to smoke a joint together or something(or wait, am I the only one that does that :rofl: )
Everyone needs to relax


Well, point was that it's Optional stuff they put on. I don't think it had injectors though, such a while ago, can't remember and don't feel like searching.

The dyno sheet I have is the only difference is the FMIC with the stage 0. No injectors or emanage and posted those numbers. With injectors and emanage, turn boost up and laying down close to 350 hp as a stage 1.

hmm, coulda sworn it had an emanage, ohh well, I think its fair to cmpare a stock stage 0 and a stock superchager...as I said before, I think it would be a drivers race.
Good to see things are getting back on track with this thead now where the hell is Unseen...hope everythings alright w/ him.

there is one? whos got it??new missionlol n yo talkin bout smokin...gotta start the new yr off right lmaolol


neway....unseen?update?

yo what up and ish? damn, what kind of mess did this turn into? anyway, things are ok with my car, i just put sealant on the oil pan so no more drip. yahooooo! but it seems i cant catch a break, i snapped one of the bolts on the wastegate (its stuck in the manifold). so now i have to get it drilled out at a machine shop, when i can do that, i dont know, im hoping this next week. i will put the cold plugs in this weekend, and hopefully get that turbo re seated. the antifouler i put in the new spipe didnt work. i am going to get a CEL code and find out whats going on.

some more things to add to my original goal of this thread: newbies like myself might want to remove the stock spipe before taking the oil pan off. the reason being is because this time around when taking off the oil pan, the inside nuts (some covered by the spipe were pretty loose). also, definitely take note that the oil pan nuts are to be torqued only to 8 inches. i happen to snap one of those off too, but i filled in that hole with extra sealant. one thing i found this time around a bit easier was to use socket extensions. i know this sounds like a given, but sometimes people dont prepare as good as they would like, and this keeps the install much more efficient.

im not going to add to the destructive comments this thread possesses, but one thing i'd like to say is that no one has any right to talk ish to sciondad. i dont give a f*ck how much you know about cars, or how cool you think you are. damn man, have some respect.

i hope to have my car completed soon, and hang out with simplyscion. maybe he can show me a thing or two. :nails: :yawn: :P

yo what up and ish? damn, what kind of mess did this turn into? anyway, things are ok with my car, i just put sealant on the oil pan so no more drip. yahooooo! but it seems i cant catch a break, i snapped one of the bolts on the wastegate (its stuck in the manifold). so now i have to get it drilled out at a machine shop, when i can do that, i dont know, im hoping this next week. i will put the cold plugs in this weekend, and hopefully get that turbo re seated. the antifouler i put in the new spipe didnt work. i am going to get a CEL code and find out whats going on.

some more things to add to my original goal of this thread: newbies like myself might want to remove the stock spipe before taking the oil pan off. the reason being is because this time around when taking off the oil pan, the inside nuts (some covered by the spipe were pretty loose). also, definitely take note that the oil pan nuts are to be torqued only to 8 inches. i happen to snap one of those off too, but i filled in that hole with extra sealant. one thing i found this time around a bit easier was to use socket extensions. i know this sounds like a given, but sometimes people dont prepare as good as they would like, and this keeps the install much more efficient.

im not going to add to the destructive comments this thread possesses, but one thing i'd like to say is that no one has any right to talk ish to sciondad. i dont give a f*ck how much you know about cars, or how cool you think you are. damn man, have some respect.

i hope to have my car completed soon, and hang out with simplyscion. maybe he can show me a thing or two. :nails: :yawn: :P

Wow, you snapped one of the allen wrench bolts going into the manifold for the wastegate? You got some muscle...... :bow: Those Tial bolts are solid. Should be a pretty easy fix tho.

I'm pretty sure anyone that has ever touched an engine in detail has become familiar with a tap and die set. :lalala:

I know I have a well used kit. :rofl:

hmm, coulda sworn it had an emanage, ohh well, I think its fair to cmpare a stock stage 0 and a stock superchager...as I said before, I think it would be a drivers race. Good to see things are getting back on track with this thead now where the hell is Unseen...hope everythings alright w/ him.

Don't forget about the differences in the way the S/C brings on the boost, compared next to the way the turbo brings on the boost. I think that will come into play when the pedal is to the metal.

The 16g's that ZPI uses are not that big, therefore there is little to no lag in them. They spool extremely fast. I don't know how to notice lag on a turbo, because I haven't driven a 16g T-tC, but I've rode in it enough, and I can't tell where lag is suppose to be. The second Kenny stepped on the gas, it felt like we were in full boost.

hmm, coulda sworn it had an emanage, ohh well, I think its fair to cmpare a stock stage 0 and a stock superchager...as I said before, I think it would be a drivers race. Good to see things are getting back on track with this thead now where the hell is Unseen...hope everythings alright w/ him.

Don't forget about the differences in the way the S/C brings on the boost, compared next to the way the turbo brings on the boost. I think that will come into play when the pedal is to the metal.

The 16g's that ZPI uses are not that big, therefore there is little to no lag in them. They spool extremely fast. I don't know how to notice lag on a turbo, because I haven't driven a 16g T-tC, but I've rode in it enough, and I can't tell where lag is suppose to be. The second Kenny stepped on the gas, it felt like we were in full boost.
Absolutely correct, I do miss the quick spool of a turbo. We shall see, we shall see. I just ordered a new diverter valve w/ a piston instead of diaphragm and an adjustable spring kit, hoping to start hitting boost at around 2500 rpms w/ the right spring rate.

Absolutely correct, I do miss the quick spool of a turbo. We shall see, we shall see. I just ordered a new diverter valve w/ a piston instead of diaphragm and an adjustable spring kit, hoping to start hitting boost at around 2500 rpms w/ the right spring rate.


diverter valve? Elaborate on that a little for me. Newbie on that.

Absolutely correct, I do miss the quick spool of a turbo. We shall see, we shall see. I just ordered a new diverter valve w/ a piston instead of diaphragm and an adjustable spring kit, hoping to start hitting boost at around 2500 rpms w/ the right spring rate.


diverter valve? Elaborate on that a little for me. Newbie on that.
diverter valve=bypass valve=German recirculated BOV. I have a few tricks that im gonna try with it to see if my theory holds true to the tC as it does w/ the German cars. PM me if you want any more info. If it works I can tell you that almost everyone is gonna sell their upgraded Bosch 110's for the Forge007.

Absolutely correct, I do miss the quick spool of a turbo. We shall see, we shall see. I just ordered a new diverter valve w/ a piston instead of diaphragm and an adjustable spring kit, hoping to start hitting boost at around 2500 rpms w/ the right spring rate.


diverter valve? Elaborate on that a little for me. Newbie on that.
diverter valve=bypass valve=German recirculated BOV. I have a few tricks that im gonna try with it to see if my theory holds true to the tC as it does w/ the German cars. PM me if you want any more info. If it works I can tell you that almost everyone is gonna sell their upgraded Bosch 110's for the Forge007.

Nice..I was thinking it might had something to do with that region of the car, but wasn't sure. Let us know how it goes.

yo what up and ish? damn, what kind of mess did this turn into? anyway, things are ok with my car, i just put sealant on the oil pan so no more drip. yahooooo! but it seems i cant catch a break, i snapped one of the bolts on the wastegate (its stuck in the manifold). so now i have to get it drilled out at a machine shop, when i can do that, i dont know, im hoping this next week. i will put the cold plugs in this weekend, and hopefully get that turbo re seated. the antifouler i put in the new spipe didnt work. i am going to get a CEL code and find out whats going on.

some more things to add to my original goal of this thread: newbies like myself might want to remove the stock spipe before taking the oil pan off. the reason being is because this time around when taking off the oil pan, the inside nuts (some covered by the spipe were pretty loose). also, definitely take note that the oil pan nuts are to be torqued only to 8 inches. i happen to snap one of those off too, but i filled in that hole with extra sealant. one thing i found this time around a bit easier was to use socket extensions. i know this sounds like a given, but sometimes people dont prepare as good as they would like, and this keeps the install much more efficient.

im not going to add to the destructive comments this thread possesses, but one thing i'd like to say is that no one has any right to talk ish to sciondad. i dont give a f*ck how much you know about cars, or how cool you think you are. damn man, have some respect.

i hope to have my car completed soon, and hang out with simplyscion. maybe he can show me a thing or two. :nails: :yawn: :P

Thanks for taking the time bro!

Absolutely correct, I do miss the quick spool of a turbo. We shall see, we shall see. I just ordered a new diverter valve w/ a piston instead of diaphragm and an adjustable spring kit, hoping to start hitting boost at around 2500 rpms w/ the right spring rate.


diverter valve? Elaborate on that a little for me. Newbie on that.
diverter valve=bypass valve=German recirculated BOV. I have a few tricks that im gonna try with it to see if my theory holds true to the tC as it does w/ the German cars. PM me if you want any more info. If it works I can tell you that almost everyone is gonna sell their upgraded Bosch 110's for the Forge007.

Nice..I was thinking it might had something to do with that region of the car, but wasn't sure. Let us know how it goes.

Definitely will keep you guys informed...check out my thread here to get the updates>>>> http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1245729#1245729

still no dyno sheets from munch.

still no dyno sheets from munch.

wow...big surprise there

To be perfectly honest, if he's working out a deal with the manufacturers of his magical mods I would imagine they would ask him to withhold dyno information until these parts get produced in quantity.

Wink.

still no dyno sheets from munch.

wow...big surprise there

And you never will see one from me either :P :rofl: Now back to the thread at hand :blah:

still no dyno sheets from munch.

wow...big surprise there

And you never will either :P :rofl:

Lets not start this again

still no dyno sheets from munch.

wow...big surprise there

And you never will either :P :rofl:

Lets not start this again

Exactly. Some people are just like big babies around here :blah: :blah: :blah: . Me and Sciondad settled our differences. But these guys want to keep it going. Whatever :loser:

update: so i decided to finally take care of a few things. there were two priorities of last weekend's maintenance: leaks and the CEL.

leaks: i sprayed the turbo down with soapy water. this is an effective and easy way for untrained newbies to find leaks. i found big bubbles where the turbo meets. apparently i didnt tighten the C clamp tight enough where the clasps on mine had been left open nearly a 1/4 inch. these clasps have to touch in order for the turbo to be sealed properly. see...

http://saves976.250free.com/Turbo1.JPG

before doing this though, i wanted to make sure that pin wasnt in my turbo. pulling the charge side turbo off, i saw that there was this little silver circle. now this is not discernable in the previous diagrams given, nor is it easy to conceptualize where and how the pin is placed. so here, this is what it looks like.

http://saves976.250free.com/DSCF0562.JPG

the snap ring was nearly impossible to get off with the proper tools, being some internal snap ring pliers, so dont waste time using insufficient tools. actually, its easiest to start off by prying one end of the snap ring up with a flathead screwdriver, near that little cut out semi circle. once that pops out, you can use the pliers to squeeze it together and pry it off. pull the turbo out and get the pin. the size of the pin is tiny, and it doesnt even look like a pin, more like a blunt tack. this little piece of ____ obstructs the semi circle cut out so you cant clock or rotate the turbo. put the turbo back in and bring it back to the car. clock it so the charge pipe aligns properly, take some time in doing this, you dont want to put that snap ring back on and it be all crooked. sciondad says you need 2 people to get the turbo back on, and replace the snap ring. i guess im just a mechanical savant, but i got it on by myself :crazy: . then reinstall, return line first, then turbo with C clamp, etc. i sprayed and checked for more leaks, none. and get this, i dont know how i clocked it, but the charge pipe doesnt hit the firewall anymore :clap:. unlike the picture, the oil line should be straight up and down, but cannot be aligned correctly if the pin isnt taken out.

CEL: driving it around for 10 miles, nothing happened. then i gave it a real pull, and it was still good. only when i got home did it come on. but i then realized something and told kenny about it. the stock screws to the MAF sensor didnt screw in thus the MAF not sitting snuggly. this may be why the CEL is continuing to stay even after antifoulers, etc. my CEL code is system too lean, so this could make sense. once i get the correct screws in there, i'll update again.

idling and stalling issues remain, but this isnt a problem due to install, but as you all know, the BOV. as many have said, the answer to this is a recirculation BOV.

I think the idle issue you are having is much worst than anyone else. I would say a lot of this has to do with the MAF leaking air.

You will have a whole diffrent car when it is running correctly..

i forgot to add how much more the car pulls with the correction of the turbo. i was surprised to see how powerful it was. yeah im really hoping its the MAF thats throwing the CEL. while checking my oil this morning i looked at the MAF, and it is basically wide open. kenny, i need those screws!

i forgot to add how much more the car pulls with the correction of the turbo. i was surprised to see how powerful it was. yeah im really hoping its the MAF thats throwing the CEL. while checking my oil this morning i looked at the MAF, and it is basically wide open. kenny, i need those screws!

Your the man getting that turbo back together alone. I guess I'm old. :rofl:

.....get those screws quick. You will be even more suprised when the MAF is seated properly. Like a new TC on steroids. The MAF lets the ECU know how much air is passing by and the condition of it. If it's not seated properly, it isn't measuring the air right.

Why didn't the old screws fit? My screws fit, just wouldn't screw all the way down because the coating company got coating into the holes. I had to tap it out.

You can go to any big hardware store and pick up screws to fit. you just may have to remove the intake pipe and take it in with you. Don't get the screws too long, or it won't snug down all the way.

1 more important thing. Kenny told me the flange opening for the MAF is just a tad too small, maybe, maybe not on the newer batches. You may have to dremmel out the hole just a touch. Maybe, maybe not like I said. The MAF should sit flush with the surface and not move at all. Careful not to over torque the screws.

Those are machined and really expensive little guys. I had to dremmel mine out. It didn't help that the coating company got coating in there too making the hole just a tad smaller.

Hey, If you want to stop by the dealership today I have a couple of the MAF screws lying around that you are more than welcome to have for free.

Hey, If you want to stop by the dealership today I have a couple of the MAF screws lying around that you are more than welcome to have for free.

Now there is an offer. I'd swing by unseen if it's close. Simplyscion might even be able to take a look at everything you have installed and see if there are any other potential issues or some bling opportunities.

I am impressed unseen at how much you have learned in this process. :clap:

Everyone that has ever started the learning curve of aftermarket mods pays the tax of details at some time and sometimes that means the hard way. You however, stuck it out and kept on digging for knowledge and the "do it yourself" experience while others would have given up or been too scared. Your experience is worth it's weight in gold and will last your life time. Welcome to the club. :bow:

thanks sciondad, coming from you that means a lot. there were several times i wanted to say screw it and bring it to a tuner shop, but i didnt want to sacrifice the opportunity to learn, and yes even at the expense of my car.

Snapped a tial bolt inside the header as well. I feel s stupid. It moves inside but it won't come out no matter what. I guess I have to take it to machine shop :(

Snapped a tial bolt inside the header as well. I feel s stupid. It moves inside but it won't come out no matter what. I guess I have to take it to machine shop :(

Well, the cost of a nice tap and die set would be less than the machine shop charge. It might be an opportunity to use this little gem of a tool.

thanks sciondad, coming from you that means a lot. there were several times i wanted to say screw it and bring it to a tuner shop, but i didnt want to sacrifice the opportunity to learn, and yes even at the expense of my car.

Unseen, I remember some of the questions you asked months ago and now look at your recent post. Dang...you learn fast and have serious confidence under the hood. Kenny at ZPI even mentioned that recently. I bet you know that engine pretty good. :rofl:

Hey, If you want to stop by the dealership today I have a couple of the MAF screws lying around that you are more than welcome to have for free.

Now there is an offer. I'd swing by unseen if it's close. Simplyscion might even be able to take a look at everything you have installed and see if there are any other potential issues or some bling opportunities.


Its all love over here baby...no hate :love:

Unseen if you wanna come down this weekend, I am free Saturday, the offer is still on the table and we can get this thing running right. Hopefully all the info I have provided so far has helped. LETS UNLEASH THE BEAST!!! :)

Snapped a tial bolt inside the header as well. I feel s stupid. It moves inside but it won't come out no matter what. I guess I have to take it to machine shop :(

Well, the cost of a nice tap and die set would be less than the machine shop charge. It might be an opportunity to use this little gem of a tool.

I have the tap and die tool set. In fact my world champion audio setup is built mostly by using stainless bolts holding everything together; my problem is that I can't take out the remainder of the bolt from the header. I don't want to drill it out because I want to reuse the existing thread pattern.

Snapped a tial bolt inside the header as well. I feel s stupid. It moves inside but it won't come out no matter what. I guess I have to take it to machine shop :(

Well, the cost of a nice tap and die set would be less than the machine shop charge. It might be an opportunity to use this little gem of a tool.

I have the tap and die tool set. In fact my world champion audio setup is built mostly by using stainless bolts holding everything together; my problem is that I can't take out the remainder of the bolt from the header. I don't want to drill it out because I want to reuse the existing thread pattern.

Ahhh, I see. Then you are right (and obviously know what your doing). Machine shop time

great post

went to autzone and got codes, please help!

p196 (o2 bank 1 sensor 1)
p2238 (o2 positive current low)
p0179 (system too rich)

i talked to someone who said the first o2 must be busted, and i will need a new one. if anyone else has any insight, please please please help me out. id rather not spend another 400 bucks for a F-ing o2, i'd rather put that towards a stage 1. is there a diagnostic test i can get performed to make sure its isolated to the first o2? id readily take it to the dealer (not under warranty) just to find out, but i dont want to catch ____ for this happening (simplyscion, any help out here would be cool). thanks for the help everyone...

went to autzone and got codes, please help!

p196 (o2 bank 1 sensor 1)
p2238 (o2 positive current low)
p0179 (system too rich)

i talked to someone who said the first o2 must be busted, and i will need a new one. if anyone else has any insight, please please please help me out. id rather not spend another 400 bucks for a F-ing o2, i'd rather put that towards a stage 1. is there a diagnostic test i can get performed to make sure its isolated to the first o2? id readily take it to the dealer (not under warranty) just to find out, but i dont want to catch poop for this happening (simplyscion, any help out here would be cool). thanks for the help everyone...

I don't believe they are $400, but last I heard, they run about $150. SimplyScion I think can help you out finding one at a good price.

That sucks big time. On a positive note...your car will run sweet with this fixed. With it throwing this code, AFR is all off at this point.

went to autzone and got codes, please help!

p196 (o2 bank 1 sensor 1)
p2238 (o2 positive current low)
p0179 (system too rich)

i talked to someone who said the first o2 must be busted, and i will need a new one. if anyone else has any insight, please please please help me out. id rather not spend another 400 bucks for a F-ing o2, i'd rather put that towards a stage 1. is there a diagnostic test i can get performed to make sure its isolated to the first o2? id readily take it to the dealer (not under warranty) just to find out, but i dont want to catch poop for this happening (simplyscion, any help out here would be cool). thanks for the help everyone...

I don't believe they are $400, but last I heard, they run about $150. SimplyScion I think can help you out finding one at a good price.

That sucks big time. On a positive note...your car will run sweet with this fixed. With it throwing this code, AFR is all off at this point.

That O2 is just over $200 for a new one. Talk to Simplyscion (Vito) He can get you one.

yea, definitely sounds like an 02...pm me and I will give you my cell number so you can call me up and I will find out how much a new 02 will cost ya

I don't believe they are $400, but last I heard, they run about $150. SimplyScion I think can help you out finding one at a good price.

That sucks big time. On a positive note...your car will run sweet with this fixed. With it throwing this code, AFR is all off at this point.

so is this definitely a damaged first o2 problem?

unseen, any more updates? hows the car running?

unseen, any more updates? hows the car running?

well to tell you honestly, since i tightened the turbo, and seated the MAF properly, it idles a lot better, with less surging. im still waiting on some prices for an o2 sensor, so i dont have any real update info at the time. i have to consider that the replacement of the o2 isnt going to fix everything, so who knows.

The OEM Front O2 Sensor? We sell those for $195.

i hate you CEL :flame: .

i went to see vito (simply scion) and him and i put a new o2 sensor in. let me tell you, this dude vito is a stand up guy. one of the nicest people ive met in a while, you'd think he was related to sciondad. anyone on LI side of the world should ask him for advice on the tC, or at least meet him, real good guy.

last night after putting it in, the CEL came back while driving home. this morning i thought id reset the ECU by disconnecting the negative terminal and pulling the ECU fuse. well i got a good 23 mile run out of it before it popped back up. let me note though, that each time it came back on was after the car had run for some time, was turned off, and then started again. once the car starts up, it takes a mile or so before the CEL comes on. i dont know if this has anything to do with it, but just an observation. im going back to autozone to see what new codes might show up (i hope its the lean one again, so i can correct it). this CEL is giving me gray hair.

sidenote: i rode in vito's SC ride...i have to say its got some pull. he also rode in my TC ride, and i feel its dead even. who knows though, it was wet out, and i guess its a drivers race. i plan on going to see him again, so maybe we'll take care of the SC/TC debate later.

I attempt the project thursday wish me luck. I have 2 people helping me a boat load of tools and torch like kaeon used. wish me luck.

i hate you CEL :flame: .

i went to see vito (simply scion) and him and i put a new o2 sensor in. let me tell you, this dude vito is a stand up guy. one of the nicest people ive met in a while, you'd think he was related to sciondad. anyone on LI side of the world should ask him for advice on the tC, or at least meet him, real good guy.

last night after putting it in, the CEL came back while driving home. this morning i thought id reset the ECU by disconnecting the negative terminal and pulling the ECU fuse. well i got a good 23 mile run out of it before it popped back up. let me note though, that each time it came back on was after the car had run for some time, was turned off, and then started again. once the car starts up, it takes a mile or so before the CEL comes on. i dont know if this has anything to do with it, but just an observation. im going back to autozone to see what new codes might show up (i hope its the lean one again, so i can correct it). this CEL is giving me gray hair.

sidenote: i rode in vito's SC ride...i have to say its got some pull. he also rode in my TC ride, and i feel its dead even. who knows though, it was wet out, and i guess its a drivers race. i plan on going to see him again, so maybe we'll take care of the SC/TC debate later.

Thanks for the kind words bro...like I told you last night, I dont mind helping people out that deserve the help, I just kind of wish I could have gotten that thing running better for you. We are gonna hafta look over it a lil more. I think personally that you should route that downpipe back into the exhaust...I wanna pull the plugs next time you come out here and wanna see how they look. I have a feeling that you are losing a lot of spark and that is why you are stalling down low and I dont like the fact of all the oil blown out around the whole top of the block. As I said before we will hafta look into it further next time.

any news yet bro?? I have my code reader here if u need to use it.

I agree SimplyScion....route the dump tube back into the exhaust. A muffler shop should be able to do it pretty cheap and it sounds HOT.

You're a good man for helping him out getting this thing right. :bow:

I agree SimplyScion....route the dump tube back into the exhaust. A muffler shop should be able to do it pretty cheap and it sounds HOT.

You're a good man for helping him out getting this thing right. :bow:

I try to help when I can...I like the statement " You would think he was related to Sciondad"
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Are you my daddy :eyebrow: :rofl: :rofl:

I agree SimplyScion....route the dump tube back into the exhaust. A muffler shop should be able to do it pretty cheap and it sounds HOT.

You're a good man for helping him out getting this thing right. :bow:

I try to help when I can...I like the statement " You would think he was related to Sciondad"
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Are you my daddy :eyebrow: :rofl: :rofl:


:shock: Not that I'm aware of :silly: :rofl:

I think we would be more like brothers......Yeah, long lost brothers. :P

I'd be sciondads long lost son if anything! :P thats saying if he had a fling with mexican women :silly: :rofl: :rofl: gotta give it to the man he knows his shiznit!

I'd be sciondads long lost son if anything! :P thats saying if he had a fling with mexican women :silly: :rofl: :rofl: gotta give it to the man he knows his shiznit!

:rofl: You guys crack me up.

got some new codes...

1. "system too rich"

2. "MAF sensor circuit out of range"

the first one im not as concerned about, but what does the second one mean, and more importantly, how much is it going to cost me, hahaha?

i can and will reroute the dump tube back into the exhaust, but im still waiting (i think they forgot about me) for ZPI to send me a wastegate dump flange.

anyway, anyone and everyone please help me with these codes.

after 10 hours of total labor...and cutting into my body kit so the fmic piping would fit I have a turbo...spools great....idling is very good....non issues as of yet although it is rally restricted right now cause im running stock exhaust. sorry i cant help you with the codes as i have mine im hoping its just the anitfouler fix but i dunno it came on last night during a few test runs and as i said mi running stock exhuast.

Hey guys unseen , simplyscion and sciondad
its nice to see everybody helping each other on this forum specially helping us the newbees but i hate to go into this formus and waste my time reading almost three pages of this ladies fighting because one knows more than the other :loser: but that is the past and the reason of my reply its to let all the guys from long island new york that i am working on my owe turbokit and the only piece that im missing its the turbo manifold wich i might get a shop for a custom made turbo manifold but am taking my time with this project and i will be very thankful on anyhelp that i can get from you guys
I also wanted to let you guys know that my brother works for westbury toyota scion dealer as a technician and anything you guys need please pm me i will be more than happy to help u guys up

take care guys
p.s. hey unseen i will more than happy to see your project and get some ideas from you and help you as much as i can here is my email address in case you want to get in touch with me NYWILLIEZX@HOTMAIL.COM
take care guys

new codes:

p0172 (too rich bank 1 sensor 1)
p2196 (stuck rich)

this calls for emanage huh?

man, im so close to shaking this CEL, i can feel it!!!

UPDATE!!!

what a difference it makes if the weather is 60 as opposed to sub 30 to work on your car. i spent yesterday taking my turbo apart. no im not throwing in the towel, yet going for round 2. i really took precaution and bought all tools/supplies i needed to make this process a smooth one. it went succesfully, and install back to stock was easy. i got the snapped bolt tapped out of the manifold (which i felt was an easy process, just a reverse thread bit). im sending off the manifold, downpipe, and exhaust side turbo to get them coated at jet-hot. i hope to have them back by the end of the week so i can install the turbo back on next weekend, weather permitting. im ordering emanage tonight, and am looking for an intercooler. if you have any suggestions on what size and specification intercooler i should buy, post it please.

its weird being stock again, but at least im not stalling, and i dont have to let it idle afterwards. and of course the best thing about stock, no CEL.

^^maybe you should go ahead while you are at it, and pick-up a turbo timer.

forget turbo timers...get a remote start with a built in timer, you actually get something more useful for the money.

^^hmm...good one. Never thought of using a remote start.

forget turbo timers...get a remote start with a built in timer, you actually get something more useful for the money.

yes, id definitely go this route if i was going to pick up a turbo timer. however at this time there are other priorities like injectors, wideband, and other essential parts.

forget turbo timers...get a remote start with a built in timer, you actually get something more useful for the money.

yes, id definitely go this route if i was going to pick up a turbo timer. however at this time there are other priorities like injectors, wideband, and other essential parts.

hey bro, call my phone, I got just the right person for you for that stuff if you want.

good looking out vito. and who says NY heads are mean? HAHAHAHahahaha.

I recently threw the same P2238 code...
http://www.palmbaystreetracing.com/images/Misc/code3.jpg

I recently threw the same P2238 code...
http://www.palmbaystreetracing.com/images/Misc/code3.jpg

Are you running off OEM ECU too? It's expected if you are.

I recently threw the same P2238 code...
http://www.palmbaystreetracing.com/images/Misc/code3.jpg

Are you running off OEM ECU too? It's expected if you are.

I see... Good to Know...

I recently threw the same P2238 code...
http://www.palmbaystreetracing.com/images/Misc/code3.jpg

Are you running off OEM ECU too? It's expected if you are.

I see... Good to Know...


Yeah, go ahead and upgrade to some E-manage, or whatever you prefer. I'm sure if you spent 2g's on a turbo kit, you can go ahead and pickup a $300 dollar management system.. :P

We are going boost in about 2 weeks. I'm going :crazy: just thinking about it. Also, just thought I would give you an update, ZPI is running the HKS Bov on just about 95% of theirs and some of their local customers cars. If you are still running that Tial one, you might want to think about switching to the HKS. 10times better BOV. Sounds sweet in person. Just talk to Kenny about it, I'm sure he will hook you up.

ZPI is running the HKS Bov on just about 95% of theirs and some of their local customers cars. If you are still running that Tial one, you might want to think about switching to the HKS. 10times better BOV. Sounds sweet in person. Just talk to Kenny about it, I'm sure he will hook you up.

LOL Who do you think told him to switch!!!! Ive been bugging him for months about switching to the HKS BOV. Im glad to hear they made the switch.. Im going to talk to Kenny about getting the new BOV... :lalala: BTW. Glad to hear you will be boosted soon!.. If you have any install question feel free to ask.. OH and when getting off the oil pan a TORCH is your friend!!

ZPI is running the HKS Bov on just about 95% of theirs and some of their local customers cars. If you are still running that Tial one, you might want to think about switching to the HKS. 10times better BOV. Sounds sweet in person. Just talk to Kenny about it, I'm sure he will hook you up.

LOL Who do you think told him to switch!!!! Ive been bugging him for months about switching to the HKS BOV. Im glad to hear they made the switch.. Im going to talk to Kenny about getting the new BOV... :lalala: BTW. Glad to hear you will be boosted soon!.. If you have any install question feel free to ask.. OH and when getting off the oil pan a TORCH is your friend!!


I can install just about anything. But turbo, I'm letting the Good Dr. Strickler take care of that one. He has a few ideas in mind, and I'm eager to see her run.

double post, see below:
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kaeon, get kenny to hook up a 2 man hks group buy deal!

Going back to the Turbo Timer vs. Remote start with timing feature, I think I'm still going with a turbo timer instead. I don't know of any remote start that can...

1)Vehicle speed and RPM can be displayed
2)a speed warning level can be set
3)A 2 stage RPM warning can also be set and used as a shift light
4)When a warning level is reached LCD monitor will switch from blue to red and an audible beep will sound.
5)various measurement tools including 1/4 mile timer
6)0-60 timer
7)a stopwatch function that can be used for lap timing


Which is everything the HKS Type-1 does. I just ordered one today.

Going back to the Turbo Timer vs. Remote start with timing feature, I think I'm still going with a turbo timer instead. I don't know of any remote start that can...

1)Vehicle speed and RPM can be displayed
2)a speed warning level can be set
3)A 2 stage RPM warning can also be set and used as a shift light
4)When a warning level is reached LCD monitor will switch from blue to red and an audible beep will sound.
5)various measurement tools including 1/4 mile timer
6)0-60 timer
7)a stopwatch function that can be used for lap timing


Which is everything the HKS Type-1 does. I just ordered one today.

I have a greddy turbo timer that imma install one of these days. (just turbo timer not the combo one) hopefully this week.

The HKS and GReddy ones are both pretty decent

Its just...man how do we choose! haha. I was set on gettin the GReddy TT but now after rythm posted the HKS I typed it in and I'm like...DAMMM HAWWT

GRRRR blast you rythm!

a turbo timer is a turbo timer...who needs all that other crap :P

The HKS and GReddy ones are both pretty decent

Its just...man how do we choose! haha. I was set on gettin the GReddy TT but now after rythm posted the HKS I typed it in and I'm like...DAMMM HAWWT

GRRRR blast you rythm!


Heehee...That's what we are here for, to waist each others money. :lalala:

a turbo timer is a turbo timer...who needs all that other crap


People like me.... :P If not for functionality, then for bragging rights...lol. It would be pretty cool though to set the 1/4 timer, and see exactly how accurate it is when we take it back to the real 1/4 mile track. If it's pretty accurate, then DAMN, I have a race track everywhere I go(yes, I will be sure that the street is empty, if I start to feel a little froggy, and want to get on it a bit).

Heehee...That's what we are here for, to waist each others money. :lalala:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Very true!! :lalala:

lol man, after reading all of these pages, im scared of turboing my automatic from some of the problems, especially about the part with the oil pan, lmao.
o and wow that munch guy is a real jerk in the starting of the pages lol.

When are you guys gonna get a go with that race of stage 0 and supercharger?

lol man, after reading all of these pages, im scared of turboing my automatic from some of the problems, especially about the part with the oil pan, lmao.
o and wow that munch guy is a real jerk in the starting of the pages lol.

When are you guys gonna get a go with that race of stage 0 and supercharger?

where the hell have you been for the past 6 months? read up son.

roflmao im going to buy the turbo soon, so i wanted to start reading about it roflmao

Sit in the car for 30 seconds and your good... Turbo timers are over-rated just like front bumpers!!!

Sit in the car for 30 seconds and your good... Turbo timers are over-rated just like front bumpers!!!


Not my HKS Type-1 turbo timer....lol It's has some features I think will be very handy at improving my 1/4 times.

hey guys, which copper gaskets am i supposed to buy??? all of them on zpi?? or will those gaskets soon be on the kit?