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Simplyscion
12-19-2005, 04:16 AM
Since I havent heard anyone talk about it yet, I figured I would go out and buy the Forge 007 Billet Aluminum diverter valve. I will let everyone know how it works out when I get it, its shipping from Arizona and the cheapest I was able to get it for was $120 if anyone was interested. If I like what I feel, I will be selling my bosch 110 if anyone wants it. :lalala:

DTRUONG_112
12-19-2005, 04:45 AM
let us know how it works.

tikbhoy
12-19-2005, 05:51 AM
Yikes! ive seen the knockoff aluminum ones and thats keeping me from even buying the real ones.

Simplyscion
12-19-2005, 12:54 PM
Yikes! ive seen the knockoff aluminum ones and thats keeping me from even buying the real ones.
Its no fugazi...its the real deal.

Nick06tC
12-19-2005, 01:39 PM
how much you want for the 110 shipped?

Simplyscion
12-19-2005, 01:52 PM
how much you want for the 110 shipped?
I dunno, probly like 50 shipped...I only used it for like 2 weeks tops...I wanna wait to get teh other one first though but I will keep you in mind.

Beantowntc
12-19-2005, 02:45 PM
my vw friends use that on the gti...let us know how it is

Simplyscion
12-19-2005, 02:49 PM
my vw friends use that on the gti...let us know how it is

yea my boy has one on his gti also...the thing sounds real weird, almost like a fighter jet taking off. My friend was running them on his S4, but switched out to the hyperboost adjustable valves(he needs two for bi turbo).

hPower
12-19-2005, 05:56 PM
I was gonna say the same thing, a friend of mine is using one on a GTI. Let us know how it goes.

motozen
12-19-2005, 07:14 PM
Well actually.... I said I was getting one awhile back. 130clams for the same performance as the 110 is just bling bling of a difference.

I will be getting a Forge007p this summer too. :wink:

Simplyscion
12-19-2005, 08:05 PM
Well actually.... I said I was getting one awhile back. 130clams for the same performance as the 110 is just bling bling of a difference.

I will be getting a Forge007p this summer too. :wink:
Hmm, found a hell of a lot difference from switching a 110 out to a 007 on my friends GTI :lalala:
Got a lil trick up my sleeve, pm me if your interested in knowing...well, actually, if your the Audi/VW master that you say you are then you should know what im talking about. Hoping to start pulling boost at around 2800 RPM's w/ the stock blower pulley.

Beantowntc
12-19-2005, 09:03 PM
vwvortex will have the answer.....im not supercharged so i dont care enough to search there yet :rofl:

Nick06tC
12-19-2005, 09:22 PM
ok simplyscion you have me interested, I looked into Forge 007, what are the advantages over the 110? And the green spring is the spring to use correct?

Simplyscion
12-19-2005, 10:13 PM
ok simplyscion you have me interested, I looked into Forge 007, what are the advantages over the 110? And the green spring is the spring to use correct?
well, you need to determine what kind of boost you plan on running. If you arent gonna get a pulley then yea, the green spring should be sufficient enough. When I get my pulley, I will try out the yellow spring to see how good things work, but even at another 2.5 psi I think the green is gonna be good still. When you start hitting 12-14 psi, then the yellow or blue spring will do the trick.

Nick06tC
12-19-2005, 10:49 PM
I plan on doing the pulley. I actually sat and starred at ZPI's website today debating if i was going to buy it. I just need more info on the safety of it with running the same ecu map and same injectors.

So what are the advantages of this BPV over the bosche 110?

Simplyscion
12-19-2005, 11:12 PM
Well, basically we dont know just yet until I try out a few combinations...Im basically being the guinnea pig here with it...its either gonna yield good results, or its gonna be the same as the 110

Nick06tC
12-19-2005, 11:15 PM
i shall be watching. But i imagine i will buy a 110 in the next few days.

Simplyscion
12-19-2005, 11:30 PM
i shall be watching. But i imagine i will buy a 110 in the next few days.
If you waited this long, you might as well wait the extra few days and see what happens. If everything turns out how I think its gonna, then everyone is gonna be selling their 110's to upgrade to a Forge. For all you guys that are obsessed with the BOV sound, ECS made a kit for the HKS SSQV...but at $300 i would rather go jump off a bridge.

Munch
12-19-2005, 11:42 PM
i shall be watching. But i imagine i will buy a 110 in the next few days.
If you waited this long, you might as well wait the extra few days and see what happens. If everything turns out how I think its gonna, then everyone is gonna be selling their 110's to upgrade to a Forge. For all you guys that are obsessed with the BOV sound, ECS made a kit for the HKS SSQV...but at $300 i would rather go jump off a bridge.

They have an adapter for the Forge too. That gives it that bov sound.

Simplyscion
12-19-2005, 11:55 PM
i shall be watching. But i imagine i will buy a 110 in the next few days.
If you waited this long, you might as well wait the extra few days and see what happens. If everything turns out how I think its gonna, then everyone is gonna be selling their 110's to upgrade to a Forge. For all you guys that are obsessed with the BOV sound, ECS made a kit for the HKS SSQV...but at $300 i would rather go jump off a bridge.

They have an adapter for the Forge too. That gives it that bov sound.
Really??? I have never seen it...Everyone I know just installs it upside down to get noise out of it.

Nick06tC
12-19-2005, 11:58 PM
I guess I will wait. I have been putting it off all last week of getting it. So I will see what you think.

I like the BOV sound but if it isnt performance oriented i will stick with the recirculating BPV

Munch
12-20-2005, 12:23 AM
i shall be watching. But i imagine i will buy a 110 in the next few days.
If you waited this long, you might as well wait the extra few days and see what happens. If everything turns out how I think its gonna, then everyone is gonna be selling their 110's to upgrade to a Forge. For all you guys that are obsessed with the BOV sound, ECS made a kit for the HKS SSQV...but at $300 i would rather go jump off a bridge.

They have an adapter for the Forge too. That gives it that bov sound.
Really??? I have never seen it...Everyone I know just installs it upside down to get noise out of it.

I just double checked. It's a different piece. My bad, I thought it worked with the valve.

IAmTheProdigy
12-20-2005, 01:12 AM
Hmm yet another mod to increase the performance of the supercharger... thanks for being the guinnea pig. Oh yeah, and you have a link to where you bought it?

motozen
12-20-2005, 01:19 AM
Well actually.... I said I was getting one awhile back. 130clams for the same performance as the 110 is just bling bling of a difference.

I will be getting a Forge007p this summer too. :wink:
Hmm, found a hell of a lot difference from switching a 110 out to a 007 on my friends GTI :lalala:
Got a lil trick up my sleeve, pm me if your interested in knowing...well, actually, if your the Audi/VW master that you say you are then you should know what im talking about. Hoping to start pulling boost at around 2800 RPM's w/ the stock blower pulley.
Yeah it was a turbo? Different story. What trick? switching out the springs?

Don't get me wrong. The forge is a great BPV and looks killer. But you are paying over twice as much for something that the 110 handles just fine. Especially for the SC kit that we have.

The thing about the Forge is that you can take it apart and clean it and replace anything in it. That is a pretty cool thing. It does nothing different then the 110 on a lightly modified or stock SC or turbo setup. I've seen plenty results to vouch for that as a fact on KO3 and KO4 audis.

Sure you can switch out the spring, but unless you are seriously bumping up your psi it is way overkill. If you are doing insaine psi I would upgrade to the 007p but the 110 is just fine too. If you are planing on heavily modifying your SC to carry such loads, the 110s can handle it, but the 007ps are sexy too.:love:

Both are great BPVs, but the 110 is stealthy on our kit and cost hella cheaper.

Simplyscion
12-20-2005, 05:09 AM
I wasnt gonna switch out the springs, I was gonna use the green spring and try different spacers with it...theres gotta be an optimal point...if Im wrong then Im wrong, thats why Im trying it. I plan on running a decent amount of boost, Im just waiting for someone to put out a dam pulley thats gonna get me to where I wanna be. I already ordered the NST pulley, but I wanna be at around 12 psi which will be kind of nice if boost starts kickin it at around 2800 rpms. I dont wanna spend all the money to have someone make me one, so Im stuck waiting.

motozen
12-20-2005, 05:50 AM
cool. with the 110 and the zpi pulley, you feel nice boost at 3000rpm. 2nd and 3rd are now much more fun. Wheel spin at 4000-5000rpm in 2nd now. Throttle is much thicker and you have now a bit of reserved 'umph' in 4th and 5th now.

Time for sticky tires :ponder:

DTRUONG_112
12-20-2005, 01:32 PM
results already man.

Munch
12-20-2005, 01:34 PM
results already man.

He didn't get it yet. He ordered it. Patience is key here :nails: .

Simplyscion
12-20-2005, 02:19 PM
results already man.

He didn't get it yet. He ordered it. Patience is key here :nails: .
hahaha...yea guys, I didnt get it yet, probly wont get it till beginning of next week cause of the holidays :nails:

ryno379
12-20-2005, 03:20 PM
Can't wait to hear Vito. I have a Bosch 110 but haven't installed it yet.

Simplyscion
12-20-2005, 03:23 PM
Can't wait to hear Vito. I have a Bosch 110 but haven't installed it yet.
I cant wait either :P

Nick06tC
12-20-2005, 08:11 PM
I decided the extra money isnt worth the bling so i went to buy the 110. Saab had it in stock but wanted $89 plus tax. Guess I will just order one like i have been saying I would.

good luck and keep us posted with yours!!

Simplyscion
12-20-2005, 09:30 PM
If you wait a few days you could buy mine :P

Nick06tC
12-20-2005, 10:01 PM
you wanted 50 for it used. I just got it for 55. Plus i am weird I have been talking about buying it. I have the money no problem but it meant using the comp upstairs. And i am lazy. So today I had the urge to buy it so i did. Thanks for the offer tho.

I am still going to watch what you think of the 007. But for some reason I think its going to be the same with alot of bling. Nice bling, but not worth double the price.

Simplyscion
12-20-2005, 10:07 PM
Im gonna mount it upside down just for sh!ts and giggles to see how it will sound...they do make some pretty hairy noises on the 1.8t

Nick06tC
12-20-2005, 10:21 PM
I do want the sound. Someone said something about mounting the 110 upside down. Any difference?

Simplyscion
12-20-2005, 10:34 PM
I do want the sound. Someone said something about mounting the 110 upside down. Any difference?

I dunno, Im about to go try it out, I will let you know in an hour :P

Nick06tC
12-20-2005, 10:46 PM
with the 110? Ill be waiting for results

shuttlegoosecock
12-20-2005, 11:05 PM
yeah deff tell us how it worked dude

Simplyscion
12-20-2005, 11:48 PM
Sorry guys, I got caught up doing something at my house, I will try to do it tommorow if I can while Im at work.

Nick06tC
12-21-2005, 12:16 AM
ahhhh, fine. I will check back tomorrow.

Simplyscion
12-21-2005, 12:39 AM
I dont go into work till 3 tommorow so I might head up to the dealership tonight and do it in the back of the shop but it wont be for a while though so i might just do it in the morning at my house.

DTRUONG_112
12-21-2005, 02:54 AM
sounds like a plan.

Nick06tC
12-21-2005, 11:21 PM
any news on this??

Simplyscion
12-21-2005, 11:25 PM
any news on this??
I wasnt able to do it this morning cause I woke up kind of late and I had my Christmas party today at work, then had to work right after so Im still here right now. I wanted to do it after work but the shop is packed out right now with deliveries for tommorow so Im kind of screwed....im sorry guys, if I can pull it off tonight I will. Tommorow will be kind of hard too cause I am working different hours than normal, but I will shoot for tommorow again if I can.

Nick06tC
12-21-2005, 11:34 PM
Its all good.

mine will be delivered on Friday so I will try it out. I need to find the DIY on here

Simplyscion
12-23-2005, 02:37 PM
The Forge diverter valve came in this morning...I will have it on today w/out a doubt so I will keep everyone updated.

Nick06tC
12-23-2005, 05:06 PM
Awesome. Im looking forward to the results. My Bosche should be here with in the hour. It sayd on UPS website delivery today, so I hope.

Simplyscion
12-23-2005, 05:17 PM
Alright, I got it in, I wasnt able to install it upside down like I had originally planned cause it simply wont fit. The forge 007 blows the 110 out of the water. I feel soo much more response down low. I dont have a boost gauge but I can tell you that I am definitely hitting boost before 3000 RPM's now. It truely feels like a different car and I cant wait to get my pulley now to go with it. I am gonna try to figure out a way to install it upside down to see if anything changes but truthfully, I am completely satisfied with the results. Definitely pick one up if you havent bought a 110 already. I will be selling my 110 if anyone is interested.
PS: You can hear the supercharger whine a lot more now too :P

Munch
12-23-2005, 05:20 PM
Congrats V-man. Too bad I won't be needing anymore TC parts and you know why :rofl: .

Simplyscion
12-23-2005, 05:39 PM
Congrats V-man. Too bad I won't be needing anymore TC parts and you know why :rofl: .

Thanks bro hahaha....I know you, I know :rofl:

shuttlegoosecock
12-23-2005, 06:47 PM
hey munch... y don't you need any more tC parts... getting something new?
Thanks for the update with the forge valve... deff considering this

ryno379
12-23-2005, 07:31 PM
Vito, thats great to hear. Now I gotta decide if I'm keepin my 110 or not. Munch, no more tC parts? WTF?

Nick06tC
12-23-2005, 07:36 PM
Glad it turned out good. If I go above 10 PSI then I will upgrade but I think the Bosch 110 is plenty for me now. Keep us updated on it.

DTRUONG_112
12-23-2005, 07:44 PM
is there any way you can get a sound clip or something of the forge 007 Simplyscion?

Simplyscion
12-23-2005, 07:47 PM
Thanks guys...its definitely nicer than the 110, I just took it out for another cruise and its definitely worth the money.
If anyone wants to try something different go get the baileys diverter valve...i have heard good things about it...just dont go with the HKS SSQ conversion.

Simplyscion
12-23-2005, 08:37 PM
is there any way you can get a sound clip or something of the forge 007 Simplyscion?
What sound do you wanna hear?? Its not atmospheric...I finally realized that the sound wasnt coming from the supercharger itself, it was from the diverter valve bleeding off the extra boost...it makes a whistleing noise, but It does it while under boost so you will never hear it if I have the window down.

motozen
12-23-2005, 08:40 PM
:eyebrow: Ok I think this is in somebody's head hehe.

ZPI or someone reputable needs to do a dyno comparison ASAP stock vs. 110 vs. 007P :lalala: There shouldn't be any difference between the 110 and the 007p in power with your current set up. Especially with no SC pulley. Sorry.

ANYTHING is better then the stock 102 POS.

This is not to say your BPV is better or worse in performance, I plan on getting one this summer for the bling bling factor. :wink:

Simplyscion
12-23-2005, 08:47 PM
I must be making it up then :doh:
Listen bro, I know what my car felt like before I put it on and I know its definitely different in the lower gears now as I stated before with the forge...I got so used to how my car drove with the 110 on it that when I changed over I immediately noticed the lower end responsiveness. Im not gonna sit here and make things up cause that would just be pointless...Im not talking about no 10 hp gains blah blah blah, the car just feels more responsive now in 1st through 3rd gear.

Stock
12-23-2005, 08:51 PM
where do you pick up the 007? Thanks

Simplyscion
12-23-2005, 08:52 PM
theres a few different places you can get it...ECS tuning, ebay, etc.

Munch
12-23-2005, 09:40 PM
I must be making it up then :doh:
Listen bro, I know what my car felt like before I put it on and I know its definitely different in the lower gears now as I stated before with the forge...I got so used to how my car drove with the 110 on it that when I changed over I immediately noticed the lower end responsiveness. Im not gonna sit here and make things up cause that would just be pointless...Im not talking about no 10 hp gains blah blah blah, the car just feels more responsive now in 1st through 3rd gear.

This is why I don't post anything about my setup anywhere. It just dosen't pay. You try to let people know something and they just find a way to talk down about it :flame: . Oh well bro :lalala: .

Stock
12-23-2005, 09:41 PM
THank you very much sir. good luck with everything and thanks for the post and info.

Munch
12-23-2005, 09:44 PM
Vito, thats great to hear. Now I gotta decide if I'm keepin my 110 or not. Munch, no more tC parts? WTF?

hey munch... y don't you need any more tC parts... getting something new?
Thanks for the update with the forge valve... deff considering this

Nope no more TC parts are needed for me because I'm getting rid of it for something new. I had fun with my car the 5 months I've had it, but frankly, I'm bored with it. I want a different look and feel. So the TC is outta here real soon. Most of the parts on the car are already spoken for. My boys get first dibs on everything I'm taking off it.

Simplyscion
12-23-2005, 09:59 PM
Vito, thats great to hear. Now I gotta decide if I'm keepin my 110 or not. Munch, no more tC parts? WTF?

hey munch... y don't you need any more tC parts... getting something new?
Thanks for the update with the forge valve... deff considering this

Nope no more TC parts are needed for me because I'm getting rid of it for something new. I had fun with my car the 5 months I've had it, but frankly, I'm bored with it. I want a different look and feel. So the TC is outta here real soon. Most of the parts on the car are already spoken for. My boys get first dibs on everything I'm taking off it.

:lalala: :lalala: :lalala:

ryno379
12-24-2005, 05:58 AM
Vito, thats great to hear. Now I gotta decide if I'm keepin my 110 or not. Munch, no more tC parts? WTF?

hey munch... y don't you need any more tC parts... getting something new?
Thanks for the update with the forge valve... deff considering this

Nope no more TC parts are needed for me because I'm getting rid of it for something new. I had fun with my car the 5 months I've had it, but frankly, I'm bored with it. I want a different look and feel. So the TC is outta here real soon. Most of the parts on the car are already spoken for. My boys get first dibs on everything I'm taking off it.

:lalala: :lalala: :lalala:

Okay Vito, so you'll be the next one running big boost w/ the supercharger? I appreciate the updates when you try a new part :clap: . Once the snow clears I hope to make a couple mods. Munch, you'll have to let us know what you get next.

kungpaosamuraiii
12-24-2005, 09:16 PM
Munch, will you finally spill the secrets to your set up after you get rid of the car?

Most of us, I'm sure, are dying to know what you're packing and how it'll stand up against a ZPI stage 1 turbo. All the s/c guys want to know if perhaps the money spent could finally be worth it in the end.

Munch
12-24-2005, 09:21 PM
Munch, will you finally spill the secrets to your set up after you get rid of the car?

Most of us, I'm sure, are dying to know what you're packing and how it'll stand up against a ZPI stage 1 turbo. All the s/c guys want to know if perhaps the money spent could finally be worth it in the end.

It's just not worth it. I could post videos , dynos, races and someone will still have something to say about it. I've seen it on many posts here on scionlife. There is no need for me to do that sorry bro. I'll pass :no: .

zer0
12-24-2005, 09:25 PM
Who cares about all that... :blah: I understand where your coming from, a lot of people on this forum are cocky.

What are you getting next?

Munch
12-24-2005, 09:28 PM
Who cares about all that... :blah: I understand where your coming from, a lot of people on this forum are cocky.

What are you getting next?

Iwon't spill the beans just yet, but when I take delivery. I will post it up.

IAmTheProdigy
12-25-2005, 05:19 AM
Munch, will you finally spill the secrets to your set up after you get rid of the car?

Most of us, I'm sure, are dying to know what you're packing and how it'll stand up against a ZPI stage 1 turbo. All the s/c guys want to know if perhaps the money spent could finally be worth it in the end.

It's just not worth it. I could post videos , dynos, races and someone will still have something to say about it. I've seen it on many posts here on scionlife. There is no need for me to do that sorry bro. I'll pass :no: .

So you're not going to post what you've done with the supercharger because people will have something to say about it? No offense, because I respect your input here on scionlife, but who cares? Yes, it's annoying and yes everyone has their opinion no matter how uneducated, but ignore it. Whatever you've done with your tC seems like it would be extremely worthwhile to post regardless of what people might say to put it down. For every idiot who has something stupid to say, there are about 30+ people who actually care and are interested in your experience with the car. If your supercharged car can compare to a ZPI stage 1 turbo or whatever, I would love to know what you've done since I will be purchasing the s/c soon and want to feel like I could get some real power gains with the appropriate modifications. Instead of focussing on the trolls around here, add some more value to the knowledge base of these forums by posting videos, dynos, etc.

knight
12-25-2005, 12:12 PM
:bow: :bow: :bow: Could not have said it better myself.

Dakahn
12-25-2005, 09:44 PM
Then again, it is Munch is choice no matter what. It would be nice, but hey... sometime in the near future we will probably see more and more versions of people's supercharge tC's running up against turbo. Good luck w/your new toy!

Simplyscion
12-26-2005, 10:08 PM
Who cares about all that... :blah: I understand where your coming from, a lot of people on this forum are cocky.

What are you getting next?

Iwon't spill the beans just yet, but when I take delivery. I will post it up.

I know what it is!!!!! :rofl: :rofl:

Beantowntc
12-26-2005, 10:24 PM
Ok well take delivery usually means brand new car right...lol ok so its a evo/sti or a g35 coupe....the jig is up.....we know the new car will most likely be boosted.....spill the beans now or we will continue to ____ you off.....your s/c tc sucks too [/reverse psychology]

Simplyscion
12-26-2005, 10:28 PM
Ok well take delivery usually means brand new car right...lol ok so its a evo/sti or a g35 coupe....the jig is up.....we know the new car will most likely be boosted.....spill the beans now or we will continue to ____ you off.....your s/c tc sucks too [/reverse psychology]

:no: :lalala:
if you woulda said g35 coupe a month or so ago then I woulda said you were right but everyone will just hafta wait and see

Munch
12-26-2005, 10:33 PM
Ok well take delivery usually means brand new car right...lol ok so its a evo/sti or a g35 coupe....the jig is up.....we know the new car will most likely be boosted.....spill the beans now or we will continue to ____ you off.....your s/c tc sucks too [/reverse psychology]

:no: :lalala:
if you woulda said g35 coupe a month or so ago then I woulda said you were right but everyone will just hafta wait and see

:rofl: :lalala:

ryno379
12-26-2005, 11:37 PM
G35 Coupe :love:

FLINT
12-27-2005, 12:48 AM
niiiice

Dakahn
12-27-2005, 05:45 AM
My bro has a G35 and that rides so sweet... I love the exhaust tone on that car. We should start a new thread... "What will Munch be driving soon?" Anyways, how's the Forge working out???

Simplyscion
12-27-2005, 02:16 PM
The forge is good...definitely worth every dollar I spent

apexjr
12-27-2005, 06:28 PM
I must be making it up then :doh:
Listen bro, I know what my car felt like before I put it on and I know its definitely different in the lower gears now as I stated before with the forge...I got so used to how my car drove with the 110 on it that when I changed over I immediately noticed the lower end responsiveness. Im not gonna sit here and make things up cause that would just be pointless...Im not talking about no 10 hp gains blah blah blah, the car just feels more responsive now in 1st through 3rd gear.

This is why I don't post anything about my setup anywhere. It just dosen't pay. You try to let people know something and they just find a way to talk down about it :flame: . Oh well bro :lalala: .

Munch,

With all due respect, I don't know anything about your car or you... you've never posted anything about it and sometimes I wonder why you post here. You post these weird clips of wisdom like you have insight and we all know or expect that you do but you don't share any of it. Which I find extremely ANTI ScionLife.

Simplyscion
12-27-2005, 10:33 PM
I installed the valve backwards today just to see how it performed...seems like it runs the same either way, although this way its a lil bit noisier...it makes a shreiking noise now in the higher RPM's as it bleeds off boost.

English
12-28-2005, 01:51 AM
I installed the valve backwards today just to see how it performed...seems like it runs the same either way, although this way its a lil bit noisier...it makes a shreiking noise now in the higher RPM's as it bleeds off boost.

:bow: :bow: :bow:

Dakahn
12-28-2005, 05:37 AM
Any future dynos' between the two... the Bosch 110 & Forge? I wonder if there is a big difference between the two besides "knowing??" Anyways good stuff!!! :bow:

mushrew
12-28-2005, 07:09 AM
I installed the valve backwards today just to see how it performed...seems like it runs the same either way, although this way its a lil bit noisier...it makes a shreiking noise now in the higher RPM's as it bleeds off boost.
pic of it installed backwards? (I don't have a SC yet so if it's blatantly obvious how it's done I apologize, I would like to know for future reference though)

Stu_Gotti
12-28-2005, 12:11 PM
Why is everyone jockin this cat Munch? I call BS until he can post up valid info on his whip.. if not.. Pfft.. :loser:

tikbhoy
12-28-2005, 12:50 PM
Simplyscion props on the forge, hopefully il modify mine soon.

Munch, do what you gota do. who cares what people say. i think ima stop posting my doings too. good luck on the new car

Stu_Gotti
12-28-2005, 01:13 PM
You guys are missing the point of an auto-enthusiast forum. This forum is to share ideas and points of intrest.. when you decide not to post up your findings or decide to hop on a band-wagon of "not posting things up".. you are pretty much useless on this forum. I have respect for everyone on this site, and I wont bash anyone.. unless its called for. People get a rise out of making comments like some do, and they get a bigger rise out of it when you decide to become upset or you get so upset that you state what you are going to do. Who cares what "special" thing you have done to your s/c tC... if you dont want people to know about it or ask about it.. guess where you went wrong.. your bragging... If you think you have this wonderful part that no one can know about.. dont say sh!t.. you are only asking for what you are getting.. and running away aint going to make them stop. :)

Good luck on whatever you choose for a new whip... hopefully it turns out just as fly.

Gotti

Munch
12-28-2005, 01:24 PM
I must be making it up then :doh:
Listen bro, I know what my car felt like before I put it on and I know its definitely different in the lower gears now as I stated before with the forge...I got so used to how my car drove with the 110 on it that when I changed over I immediately noticed the lower end responsiveness. Im not gonna sit here and make things up cause that would just be pointless...Im not talking about no 10 hp gains blah blah blah, the car just feels more responsive now in 1st through 3rd gear.

This is why I don't post anything about my setup anywhere. It just dosen't pay. You try to let people know something and they just find a way to talk down about it :flame: . Oh well bro :lalala: .

Munch,

With all due respect, I don't know anything about your car or you... you've never posted anything about it and sometimes I wonder why you post here. You post these weird clips of wisdom like you have insight and we all know or expect that you do but you don't share any of it. Which I find extremely ANTI ScionLife.

I have helped many people with their problems as well as installs here. I could care less about what people say that don't know me. It dosen't bother me at all. Life does go on and the people that I have helped in the past, and in the future appreciate it and that's all I give a crap about. So hate on :blah: .

Munch
12-28-2005, 01:25 PM
Simplyscion props on the forge, hopefully il modify mine soon.

Munch, do what you gota do. who cares what people say. i think ima stop posting my doings too. good luck on the new car

Thanks bro.

Munch
12-28-2005, 01:26 PM
Why is everyone jockin this cat Munch? I call BS until he can post up valid info on his whip.. if not.. Pfft.. :loser:

I'm not surprised at all with this post, but I also don't care what you think about me either. You don't even know me and call me a :loser: . :blah: I guess it takes one to know one :rofl: .

NOW LETS GET BACK ON TOPIC> THIS THREAD WAS NOT ABOUT ME IT WAS ABOUT A BPV :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:

Stu_Gotti
12-28-2005, 01:33 PM
PM Sent Munch

Munch
12-28-2005, 01:48 PM
PM Sent Munch

PM returned

Stu_Gotti
12-28-2005, 02:00 PM
:) Sorry bro

Munch
12-28-2005, 02:06 PM
:) Sorry bro

It's all good. Sometimes I'm just misunderstood on these forums. No hard feelings :P .

Simplyscion
12-28-2005, 03:21 PM
Mushrew-Sorry, I dont have any pics but if you go to the thread that Motozen started up then you could see the 2 different ways to install it...
Ok guys, as I am driving the car more and more, i notice the sounds coming from the valve...it sounds exactly like my friends GTI but just with less boost...for those of you who are looking for an audible diverter valve this is definitely the one...I didnt plan on it being this loud but it really screams now...Im almost scared to hear what its gonna sound like when Im blowing off at 9.5 psi :rofl:
I may put it back to the regular way after I get the pulley just to try and be a lil bit more discreet :P

Stu_Gotti
12-28-2005, 04:51 PM
w0rd.. sounds good :)

DTRUONG_112
12-28-2005, 08:59 PM
Mushrew-Sorry, I dont have any pics but if you go to the thread that Motozen started up then you could see the 2 different ways to install it...
Ok guys, as I am driving the car more and more, i notice the sounds coming from the valve...it sounds exactly like my friends GTI but just with less boost...for those of you who are looking for an audible diverter valve this is definitely the one...I didnt plan on it being this loud but it really screams now...Im almost scared to hear what its gonna sound like when Im blowing off at 9.5 psi :rofl:
I may put it back to the regular way after I get the pulley just to try and be a lil bit more discreet :P

like a good scream or an annoying scream? Sound clip? :pray:

Simplyscion
12-28-2005, 09:09 PM
naa...its a good scream...it might get a lil bit annoying once I get an intake on this thing cause I think the stock airbox is muffleing it a lot.

Simplyscion
12-28-2005, 09:13 PM
I think the only way you will hear it is if I do a drive by...I dont think its really anything worth making a sound clip for bro...hate to dissapoint you...its not a loud BOV sound like you are probly thinking of.

zoltiz
12-31-2005, 12:59 PM
I'll make a vid today with my no-name aluminum BPV - with ZPI pulley it makes a funky ping/screech noise - I wonder if yours is similar.

Simplyscion
12-31-2005, 01:15 PM
I'll make a vid today with my no-name aluminum BPV - with ZPI pulley it makes a funky ping/screech noise - I wonder if yours is similar.
Yup, that would be it...Im still running without a pulley and its making some loud noises.

tikbhoy
12-31-2005, 02:46 PM
I'll make a vid today with my no-name aluminum BPV - with ZPI pulley it makes a funky ping/screech noise - I wonder if yours is similar.

im still skeptical on the no namers. after reading modified mags article on fake copys of the real thing, it just made stop bieng cheap. but its crazy tho how good of a copy it is.

zoltiz
12-31-2005, 06:12 PM
I'll make a vid today with my no-name aluminum BPV - with ZPI pulley it makes a funky ping/screech noise - I wonder if yours is similar.

im still skeptical on the no namers. after reading modified mags article on fake copys of the real thing, it just made stop bieng cheap. but its crazy tho how good of a copy it is.

I don't know what mine is called, or what it was ripped off of (if anything) it looks like a plastic Bosch unit, but bigger and made of metal (probably aluminum). Has a metal piston, not a diaphragm. Cost about $60 on eBay and it seems to work better than stock Bosch. Is it a piece of crap? Maybe, but it was a direct fit, does not attract dealer's attention and it works.

tikbhoy
01-04-2006, 10:29 AM
with all the fuss swapping the bosch out.

i finally dived in.

i read, researched and asked feedback somewhere else. Mine is coming.

Simplyscion
01-04-2006, 02:18 PM
with all the fuss swapping the bosch out.

i finally dived in.

i read, researched and asked feedback somewhere else. Mine is coming.
Nice...did you get the Forge??

tikbhoy
01-04-2006, 02:33 PM
i read, researched and asked feedback somewhere else. Mine is coming.
Nice...did you get the Forge??[/quote]

Im going Munch mode on this one :lalala:

Simplyscion
01-04-2006, 02:34 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
no doubt, well if you like it keep us posted

SuperWTC
01-04-2006, 03:23 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
no doubt, well if you like it keep us posted

Where can i pick one up? im intrested in trying this out. thanks

Simplyscion
01-04-2006, 04:18 PM
ECS tuning, ebay...a ton of places carry them...its the Forge 007

zoltiz
01-04-2006, 04:38 PM
ECS tuning, ebay...a ton of places carry them...its the Forge 007

Wow. That's what I have then :) I had it since the end of October and did not know what it was called. All I knew was that I paid $80 shipped for it on eBay :)

Thanks!

Simplyscion
01-04-2006, 05:04 PM
$80?? Was it used?? It may be a knockoff if it was that cheap...if you did get it for that cheap it is amazing.

Yankee21
05-18-2006, 02:06 AM
Ok! Just ordered mine! You guys convinced me...Everywhere I went they had it back ordered...found a website for audis...they had the Forge-Diverter Valve/By-Pass Valve 007p - Stealth Black 135 free shipping and the FUNNY thing is that i dont have the supercharger yet :)

Avodka14
06-22-2007, 01:26 AM
I recently updated my BPV to the Bosch 110 and noticed that third gear can sustain boost longer considering that it is a taller gear compared to 1st (pointless) and 2nd (second to pointless). I can definitely see where Simplyscion is coming from with his Forge 007 as many others have testified the same responses. I just can not fork out more money for another BPV. It is time to move on to other upgrades!

jwaggz82
07-14-2007, 04:17 AM
So where is the best spot to get the 007?

I am told: http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/pagebuild_v2.cgi?searchstring=forge&searchqt=byvehicle&make=Audi&model=B6+A4&submodel=Quattro&engine=1.8T

but there are two of them .... a normal one and an "a line" one. Can someone explain the difference and which one I need? I have the bosch right now and im intrested in seeing the change

torqueTc
07-14-2007, 10:35 AM
^^ i am now looking into this as well, which one is the correct part for that 07's?

jwaggz82
07-14-2007, 01:37 PM
I saw on another post one person said to use the standard one and the "a line" is for cars that have less room (fitment issues). ..........but I would like someone who knows to confirm that statement.

Simplyscion
07-14-2007, 02:02 PM
I saw on another post one person said to use the standard one and the "a line" is for cars that have less room (fitment issues). ..........but I would like someone who knows to confirm that statement.
i can confirm that...the a line is for cars(such as VW's that have little room to fit the bpv without kinking the vac source)

jwaggz82
07-14-2007, 03:21 PM
good deal - thanks for the help. Now might you know the best spot to get the bpv? .......for a good price and good service/shipping

Simplyscion
07-14-2007, 03:30 PM
dam, its been a while since I bought that thing but I think I got mine from ecstuning.com...check them out since it comes with the spring kit included in the price

djpaper
07-16-2007, 06:26 PM
My S/C is being installed this friday. I have a 07 A/T. Is this something worth getting even though I have a A/T? I plan on getting the NST 9.5 pulley down the road too.
Is this an install I can do myself? Thanks!

Simplyscion
07-16-2007, 06:31 PM
My S/C is being installed this friday. I have a 07 A/T. Is this something worth getting even though I have a A/T? I plan on getting the NST 9.5 pulley down the road too.
Is this an install I can do myself? Thanks!
yes its absolutely worth getting whether its an auto or 5 speed and you can definitely do the install yourself. Its one of the easiest installs you could do to the car

djpaper
07-16-2007, 06:40 PM
Thanks! Now I need to find out a way to use my Injen CAI with the s/c or should I just completly forget that idea?

Simplyscion
07-16-2007, 06:51 PM
Thanks! Now I need to find out a way to use my Injen CAI with the s/c or should I just completly forget that idea?
I cut my K&N up right before the MAF sensor and used it as a short ram. You could do that as well

djpaper
07-16-2007, 07:02 PM
Any chance of posting up a pic of how it looks? Would I need a tune if I did that after the s/c.


Still tossing around if I want to do it right away or wait because it will void my warranty, and I am being a warranty baby about this for awhile.

Simplyscion
07-16-2007, 07:07 PM
Any chance of posting up a pic of how it looks? Would I need a tune if I did that after the s/c.


Still tossing around if I want to do it right away or wait because it will void my warranty, and I am being a warranty baby about this for awhile.
do a search on here and you will find a few people including myself have done it...I dont remember what thread i started showing the install, and unfortunately my computers here at work have web blockers now so I wouldnt even be able to see if the picture is still up anyway.

djpaper
07-16-2007, 07:09 PM
Do I need to be worried about the warranty voiding with this? Can it cause any issues that would damage the s/c thus leaving me with a 4 wheel paper weight?

jwaggz82
07-17-2007, 04:22 AM
i just ordered the 007 and the spring set. What spring should I be running with my current 9.5lb and what should I be running when I step up to my 10.5lb ?

Simplyscion
07-17-2007, 09:22 PM
Do I need to be worried about the warranty voiding with this? Can it cause any issues that would damage the s/c thus leaving me with a 4 wheel paper weight?
naa, it shouldnt void the warranty at all, but if your worried its so easy to change out you could swap it out before you go to the dealer

i just ordered the 007 and the spring set. What spring should I be running with my current 9.5lb and what should I be running when I step up to my 10.5lb ?

Just try it out with the red spring and put both of the washers in that should have came in with the spring kit

jwaggz82
07-18-2007, 01:06 AM
^ ok thanks. Can you tell me the order the colors go in ...... from least to hardest (i dont have the product yet and im wondering which the red is).

jwaggz82
07-18-2007, 01:09 AM
Any chance of posting up a pic of how it looks? Would I need a tune if I did that after the s/c.


Still tossing around if I want to do it right away or wait because it will void my warranty, and I am being a warranty baby about this for awhile.


you wont void anything. If you are worried about voiding something you can buy my current one and they will never know its not the stocker .....it looks the same but holds the 9.5lbs perfect. Only reason why im changing is that im moving up to 10.5lbs and I hear that the 007 is a better option ...but also twice the price

jjos1
07-18-2007, 04:50 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PORSCHE-944-911-996-TURBO-BLOW-OFF-VALVE-DUAL-HORN_W0QQitemZ270145936476QQihZ017QQcategoryZ33742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Just got this thing, doing 50 rec / 50 open, i'll see how it works out

Simplyscion
07-18-2007, 07:27 PM
^ ok thanks. Can you tell me the order the colors go in ...... from least to hardest (i dont have the product yet and im wondering which the red is).
from softest to hardest>>>>
green, yellow, blue, red

jwaggz82
07-18-2007, 07:36 PM
^ ok thanks. Can you tell me the order the colors go in ...... from least to hardest (i dont have the product yet and im wondering which the red is).
from softest to hardest>>>>
green, yellow, blue, red

Mannnn........... so you are saying to put in the hardest with both washers (so its harder)?

Simplyscion
07-18-2007, 08:55 PM
^ ok thanks. Can you tell me the order the colors go in ...... from least to hardest (i dont have the product yet and im wondering which the red is).
from softest to hardest>>>>
green, yellow, blue, red

Mannnn........... so you are saying to put in the hardest with both washers (so its harder)?
yea, its not like a turbo setup so you need it to be as stiff as possible due to the release of pressure...i also ran the valve backwards which is why it needed the washers to keep it stiff. Instead of the top of the valve aiming straight up towards the hood of the car, it was pointing towards the driver side fender. It was more audible with the intake setup the way I had it

jwaggz82
07-18-2007, 09:12 PM
No kidding - I was going to be running the yellow spring thinking that would have been plenty. Im guessing you tested the different springs and it wasnt holding boost with the others? How many lbs boost were you running? I thought the green spring was the same as my bosche setup? if not ..what spring is closest to that?

Simplyscion
07-18-2007, 09:52 PM
i was only running the 9.5 psi pulley. The reason for running the red spring was because as i stated previously, i ran the valve backwards so it would be more audible with the intake. That cause the spring to be weak and had to use the red spring with the 2 shims that came with it. If you plan on running the valve the normal way you should be ok with the yellow spring, check out different combinations if you have a boost gauge. That way you will be albe to tell what the perfect setup is for you

jwaggz82
07-19-2007, 12:00 AM
^ ahh - now that makes more $.01's --- I wasn't relating the fact that you were running it backwords to it making the spring weak. Sounds good - I will try with the yellow and see where that takes me. I guess ill bring the other springs to my tune also incase they need to bump up to blue but I would doubt it.

equinox2355
07-19-2007, 12:19 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PORSCHE-944-911-996-TURBO-BLOW-OFF-VALVE-DUAL-HORN_W0QQitemZ270145936476QQihZ017QQcategoryZ33742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Just got this thing, doing 50 rec / 50 open, i'll see how it works out

PM me after a while and let me know how this does. I was going to get the vortech 50/50 but its a lot and id have to do some fabrication to get it to work with the S/C

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/product.php?p=25&cat_key=4

jwaggz82
07-19-2007, 12:34 AM
Keep in mind that you can run both a BPV and a BOV .....one is going after the other. The bov can be adjusted so it only releases a tad which should do nothing but help the s/c - please correct me in my logic guys

kikcaffine
07-19-2007, 12:41 AM
With the forge then it doesnt make any kind of woosh noise like a BOV ?

equinox2355
07-19-2007, 12:41 AM
Keep in mind that you can run both a BPV and a BOV .....one is going after the other. The bov can be adjusted so it only releases a tad which should do nothing but help the s/c - please correct me in my logic guys

That does sorta make sense, but its not something that I am very knowledgable about. I figured if I wanted the blow-off sound without causing problems (ie: venting metered air) that Id have to get a 50/50 bypass/BOV. If someone has a cheaper and better idea I will gladly entertain it!

jwaggz82
07-19-2007, 12:47 AM
Keep in mind that you can run both a BPV and a BOV .....one is going after the other. The bov can be adjusted so it only releases a tad which should do nothing but help the s/c - please correct me in my logic guys

That does sorta make sense, but its not something that I am very knowledgable about. I figured if I wanted the blow-off sound without causing problems (ie: venting metered air) that Id have to get a 50/50 bypass/BOV. If someone has a cheaper and better idea I will gladly entertain it!

I do know that there is NO way I would just be running a BOV with the s/c. The sensor is getting a horrible reading every time it releases. There have been people in the past that have put them on and took them off. If anybody wants just a BOV you should get a turbo.

equinox2355
07-19-2007, 12:54 AM
Keep in mind that you can run both a BPV and a BOV .....one is going after the other. The bov can be adjusted so it only releases a tad which should do nothing but help the s/c - please correct me in my logic guys

That does sorta make sense, but its not something that I am very knowledgable about. I figured if I wanted the blow-off sound without causing problems (ie: venting metered air) that Id have to get a 50/50 bypass/BOV. If someone has a cheaper and better idea I will gladly entertain it!

I do know that there is NO way I would just be running a BOV with the s/c. The sensor is getting a horrible reading every time it releases. There have been people in the past that have put them on and took them off. If anybody wants just a BOV you should get a turbo.

Ya I know that, thats why I want a 50/50

zer0
07-19-2007, 01:55 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PORSCHE-944-911-996-TURBO-BLOW-OFF-VALVE-DUAL-HORN_W0QQitemZ270145936476QQihZ017QQcategoryZ33742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Just got this thing, doing 50 rec / 50 open, i'll see how it works out

PM me after a while and let me know how this does. I was going to get the vortech 50/50 but its a lot and id have to do some fabrication to get it to work with the S/C

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/product.php?p=25&cat_key=4

http://www.turbosmart.com.au/index.php?id=44

Another option, but a little pricey. But you get what you pay for.

jjos1
07-19-2007, 02:12 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PORSCHE-944-911-996-TURBO-BLOW-OFF-VALVE-DUAL-HORN_W0QQitemZ270145936476QQihZ017QQcategoryZ33742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Just got this thing, doing 50 rec / 50 open, i'll see how it works out

PM me after a while and let me know how this does. I was going to get the vortech 50/50 but its a lot and id have to do some fabrication to get it to work with the S/C

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/product.php?p=25&cat_key=4

http://www.turbosmart.com.au/index.php?id=44

Another option, but a little pricey. But you get what you pay for.

Hopefully my cheap turbosmart knock off holds up but only one way to tell.

zer0
07-19-2007, 02:16 AM
Let us know man, it never hurts to try something out.

equinox2355
07-19-2007, 02:27 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PORSCHE-944-911-996-TURBO-BLOW-OFF-VALVE-DUAL-HORN_W0QQitemZ270145936476QQihZ017QQcategoryZ33742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Just got this thing, doing 50 rec / 50 open, i'll see how it works out

PM me after a while and let me know how this does. I was going to get the vortech 50/50 but its a lot and id have to do some fabrication to get it to work with the S/C

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/product.php?p=25&cat_key=4

http://www.turbosmart.com.au/index.php?id=44

Another option, but a little pricey. But you get what you pay for.

Thanks for that info, looks like a much easier solution and its cheaper than the vortech one.

Only thing I am not sure of is if I need the 20MM or 25MM... anyone know?

jwaggz82
07-20-2007, 02:47 AM
I had no clue the forge came with 3 springs. .......... green, yellow, and blue. The one that i will surely not use is the red and that was the only one that doesnt come w/ the bpv. Hopefully the company will take them back but its only $15 so its not life and death

DarthVadertC
07-21-2007, 09:49 PM
anyone know whats the part number from ECStuneing.com for the 007 bpv ive been reading this thread and im a little confused about it, so if anyone can share their knowledge about this i would greatly appreiciate it, im going the supercharger route so im trying to get all my facts straight, so thanx for any info guys.

jwaggz82
07-22-2007, 12:48 AM
Forge 007 Diverter Valve - Anodized Black ES#129

Dont buy the extra springs. I did and im sending them back because the 007 comes with extra springs.

Also - im selling my old bosch, my center carbon fiber gauge pod, and my new 2 gauge pillar (if anybody is interested pm me). Its all up to you. I would say that if you want to upgrade your bpv right from the start the bosch is the way to go and still save $$. Getting a used bosch for a few bucks is pretty much upgrading w/o any cost setback. If you are getting right from getting the s/c to upgrading to 12lbs of boost and emanage/unichip ...then you need the 007. It all depends on price. Im selling my bosch for $35 and the 007 is $135 so you do the math.

Ask your questions about the bpv.... ill help ya out. Worse comes to worse ill keep this bpv.

GammaTNT
07-23-2007, 05:22 AM
i just ordered my SC.
i should be able to put the Forge 007 on next weekend.

i ordered the Anodized Black ES#129 too

kikcaffine
07-24-2007, 01:54 AM
So which are some 50/50 recirc BPV's?

jwaggz82
07-24-2007, 02:57 AM
I found these specs on a webpage:

Green Spring (5-15 psi)
Yellow Spring (15-23 psi)
Red Spring (30+ psi)

BUT - they dont seem anywhere near right. Anybody have a better spring psi list?

GammaTNT
07-24-2007, 05:37 AM
so we should use the green spring?

jwaggz82
07-24-2007, 11:43 AM
^i dont think so .... i think the yellow plus a shim

GammaTNT
07-27-2007, 02:08 AM
So everyone with Forge 007 is using Yellow Spring?

my forge 007 came with Bule , Yellow and Green spring,
The Green spring was already inside.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/P1010001-2.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/P1010002-1.jpg

jwaggz82
07-27-2007, 02:43 AM
Nah - im going to try using the blue this weekend cause the yellow leaked.

GammaTNT
07-27-2007, 04:05 AM
ok, let us know how it work out. I am getting SC install on next tuesday.

jwaggz82
07-27-2007, 04:27 AM
i will - im going to put the green spring in with both shims ...then see what that will do for me. The yellow is maxing out at 7-8lbs

jwaggz82
07-28-2007, 04:43 PM
someone please confirm fast ....do the shims go on the top or bottom of the spring? I have my 007 open and I want to make sure im 100% correct.

jwaggz82
07-28-2007, 04:51 PM
well i guess the answer has to be the bottom because if i put them on top it would cover up the hole for the suction tube.

Also - to people know ... the shims really cut down on the space inside the bpv .... the way they sit in there ...it cuts 1/3 of the inside down. we shall see how it goes. Im going to use the blue spring with both shims

Simplyscion
07-28-2007, 05:08 PM
correct, they go in the bottom

jwaggz82
07-28-2007, 06:51 PM
as you said vito ..... "use the red one" .........well im going to switch to the red one when my engine cools down. I saw zero difference between the blue spring with both shims compared to the yellow w/o shims........ im still losing 1.5lbs boost which I had with my bosch (so i know that it has to do with the bpv). 20min ill go back outside and switch to the red and see what happens. im going to try and swap the springs out w/o taking my intake off .... I think i might be able to get my hands in there.

m6ar2cel6oTC
07-28-2007, 07:19 PM
so whats it gonna be red or blue with shims lol?

Simplyscion
07-28-2007, 07:27 PM
red with shims...just what ive been saying all along to him :P :lalala:

jwaggz82
07-28-2007, 07:58 PM
Yup - this is what I did today:

yellow - i got 7lbs boost
blue w/ shims - i got 7-8lbs boost
red - 8lbs boost

AHHHHHHHH!!!! I guess the only thing left is the red with shims like vito said. Ill have to try that tomorrow.

I also broke one of the clamps because I was using my socket set .... ill only use my screwdriver from now on. Good thing R&S had a pair of the same size clamps so it didnt matter.

Im honestly wondering if the red spring with shims is going to do anything different. Seems like nomatter what i switch im still down 1lb of boost.

jjos1
07-28-2007, 08:00 PM
Not a forge but it works :P sounds pretty good too
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/jjos1/0725070726.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/jjos1/0725070726a.jpg
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It seems to hold boost better than the bosch 110 I had, I was getting like 5-6 and it would hold it for a little bit the jump to 9.5 at redline. The bosch came with the used kit I bought so maybe it is bad.

jwaggz82
07-28-2007, 08:06 PM
^ yea - I had the bosch and i never had such a problem where it would jump. What is that in the picture a bov or bpv?

jjos1
07-28-2007, 08:23 PM
A dual horn bov one on rec and one open car runs good a/f's are the same as with the bosch.

jwaggz82
07-28-2007, 09:03 PM
sweet - good job.

Now on the 007 note - Im thinking about putting the two shims with the red spring on tomorrow .... since ive tried a lot of combos with almost no change ..... im not expecting it to give me that extra lb

Simplyscion
07-28-2007, 09:41 PM
sweet - good job.

Now on the 007 note - Im thinking about putting the two shims with the red spring on tomorrow .... since ive tried a lot of combos with almost no change ..... im not expecting it to give me that extra lb
how do you have it installed...whats the orientation of the top of the valve where the vacuum hose is going into?

jwaggz82
07-28-2007, 09:44 PM
^ can you elaborate on that .... im not following you.

Simplyscion
07-28-2007, 09:47 PM
how do you have it installed? Is it installed the normal way or is it backwards like I used to run it with the top of the valve facing towards the inside of the driver side fender instead of towards the hood of the car

GammaTNT
07-29-2007, 02:34 AM
my 007 didn't come with red spring. :(

jwaggz82
07-29-2007, 04:38 AM
how do you have it installed? Is it installed the normal way or is it backwards like I used to run it with the top of the valve facing towards the inside of the driver side fender instead of towards the hood of the car


well I believe I installed it the same way as my old one. If you are looking into the hood from the front and my bpv was standing strait up and fell toward the driver ...thats the position its in. So pretty much the longer part of the bpv is parallel with the front driver seat and rear driver seat (if that makes sence).

jwaggz82
07-29-2007, 04:38 AM
my 007 didn't come with red spring. :(

nor did mine ... i bought it extra

jwaggz82
07-29-2007, 05:29 PM
well - I just put in my red spring with both shims .....and no difference. Im going to be taking it out probably tomorrow or tuesday and putting the blue back in with no shims. Im going to be bringing them to the dyno so we shall find out what the solid facts are

m6ar2cel6oTC
07-29-2007, 05:58 PM
let ius all know the facts when you dyno it sir! lol

GammaTNT
07-31-2007, 05:09 AM
Is the red spring for 9.5 pully?
i have standard pully. Can i use the other color? because i don't have the red spring.

jwaggz82
07-31-2007, 10:57 AM
I was getting the same boost if i put the yellow blue or red spring. Ide like to see what boost you are getting w/ the stock pulley ..... try with the yellow spring

jwaggz82
08-01-2007, 11:56 PM
correct, they go in the bottom


you said in the past that you reversed the bpv - i was reading a webpage where the company actually said to reverse it. What did you find after reversing it?

jwaggz82
08-03-2007, 11:36 AM
SO is anybody not experiencing boost leak with this bpv? Im bummed about this

GammaTNT
08-06-2007, 04:32 AM
I installed the valve backwards today just to see how it performed...seems like it runs the same either way, although this way its a lil bit noisier...it makes a shreiking noise now in the higher RPM's as it bleeds off boost.

What he said.
I didn't install it backward, because i want my tc quite.

jwaggz82
08-06-2007, 03:55 PM
^ its almost zero noise even if you install it the other way. Either way yielded the same output for me

TongMan
08-11-2007, 08:03 AM
Just got my Forge 007 installed...i can definitely feel that my car responds much quicker than before.

jwaggz82
08-11-2007, 11:14 AM
Yea - that i did feel. im going for my tune today so ill find out what spring should be used

Simplyscion
08-11-2007, 01:27 PM
go with the red spring and just keep adding the washer shims...you could use up to like 6 washers to keep the valve from leaking. Also the reason why you didnt hear any noise was because you dont have an intake and the stock airbox is muffling the sound. If you had an intake it will be as loud if not louder than some BOV's on turbo cars. Try what I said about the extra washers, it will not hurt in any way!

patforge
08-28-2007, 05:02 PM
To all of you having leaking issues with the 007, give the test outlined in this PDF a try:
http://www.forgemotorsport.com/media/valve_service(1).pdf

In turbo applications we rate the red spring to 40psi... where is the manifold reference for the valve coming from and is there anything else tied into the line?

BLUEMEANIE
08-28-2007, 07:17 PM
Just the VSV on the vac line from the TB. Its where the stock Bosch 102 BPV plugs in.

patforge
08-28-2007, 07:36 PM
Does that VSV alter the signal reaching the valve?

Sleep3r
09-05-2007, 05:41 PM
my forge 007 came in and i didn't get the red spring....(even tho he told me i would) so question is im still running on stock boost (7psi) what spring should i be using? or does it not matter anyway since im only at 7 and is the yellow gonna be fine?

im planning on running blue with both shims

ScottTc13
09-21-2007, 03:32 PM
I just got my Forge 007 yesterday and installed it last night. I took some random boost readings last week at different speeds, rpm's, gears, with the stock bpv. I am going to repeat these readings with the Forge 007 so we can have some actual data to look at. It was 1am this morning when I installed it, but I was actually surprised that it does seem to boost higher at lower rpm's. Thumbs up

gwtc
02-28-2008, 03:36 AM
After reading these 10 pages, I'm more confused then before, so if you are running a stock pulley, which spring should I use? My kit only acme with the green, blue and yellow springs and the 2 washers. I'm installing a 9.5lb pulley just a s soon as NST gets them, so what then? which spring should i use then? no replies since 9/21/07, did you all give up on this or what? :P :rofl:

jwaggz82
02-28-2008, 03:56 AM
yellow - is fine - its A LOT heavier then the stock bpv that came w/ the kit ...

gwtc
02-28-2008, 04:45 PM
yellow - is fine - its A LOT heavier then the stock bpv that came w/ the kit ...

OK, so I'll go with the yellow for stock pulley, after that I guess I'll just have to play with it until I find the right combo, thank you.

BLUEMEANIE
02-28-2008, 08:02 PM
Stock I only hit a full 7lbs with the red spring and 1 shim

w/the 9.5lb pulley I'm still hitting 7 ... just a whole lot quicker and easier than I did before. Boost is coming on quicker and lower in the rpm range. I plan on adding another shim or two as soon as it gets warm out.

Garage1217
02-28-2008, 08:40 PM
No offence but custom mount an HKS SSQV with 25mm recirc nozzle & forget about all the spring crap. Works flawless and seals 100% everytime. That is the way I used to run mine. Takes a little work to get it in, but worth it.

gwtc
02-28-2008, 09:49 PM
No offence but custom mount an HKS SSQV with 25mm recirc nozzle & forget about all the spring crap. Works flawless and seals 100% everytime. That is the way I used to run mine. Takes a little work to get it in, but worth it.

Very interesting :ponder: , thanks for the info....

gwtc
02-29-2008, 04:00 AM
I installed my forge 007 BPV today, it took me like less then 10 min., I deff. feel the difference, I went with the yellow spring for now, I have the stock pulley.

Hey Garage1217, do you have a link on where I can get more info on that HKS SSQV at? thanks.

JPsTc
02-29-2008, 11:33 AM
The green spring should be enough. The yellow spring is a little too stiff and that piston needs to be able to be pushed so you can release that pressure. Not being able to do so can hurt the compressor over time.

Rydrdg
02-29-2008, 11:48 AM
I installed my forge 007 BPV today, it took me like less then 10 min., I deff. feel the difference, I went with the yellow spring for now, I have the stock pulley.

Hey Garage1217, do you have a link on where I can get more info on that HKS SSQV at? thanks.hey where did u get yours can u post link? one more thing does the 007 bpv come with different springs ,also is it easy to change? do u hit boost quiker?

Rydrdg
02-29-2008, 11:58 AM
[quote="Garage1217"]No offence but custom mount an HKS SSQV with 25mm recirc nozzle & forget about all the spring crap. Works flawless and seals 100% everytime. That is the way I used to run mine. Takes a little work to get it in, but worth it.[/quote sup can u post info and pix on how to install hks bov to supercharger? thanks

Rydrdg
02-29-2008, 12:00 PM
No offence but custom mount an HKS SSQV with 25mm recirc nozzle & forget about all the spring crap. Works flawless and seals 100% everytime. That is the way I used to run mine. Takes a little work to get it in, but worth it.sup can u post pix an info how to install hks bov? thanks

gwtc
02-29-2008, 03:55 PM
The green spring should be enough. The yellow spring is a little too stiff and that piston needs to be able to be pushed so you can release that pressure. Not being able to do so can hurt the compressor over time.

You really think so? I'll try to swap it out today, thanks for the info.

gwtc
02-29-2008, 03:57 PM
I installed my forge 007 BPV today, it took me like less then 10 min., I deff. feel the difference, I went with the yellow spring for now, I have the stock pulley.

Hey Garage1217, do you have a link on where I can get more info on that HKS SSQV at? thanks.hey where did u get yours can u post link? one more thing does the 007 bpv come with different springs ,also is it easy to change? do u hit boost quiker?

I got it used, but you can just type in Forge 007 on Yahoo or Google and you'll get plenty of websites that sell it, I think the kit comes with different color springs, there's also a kit you can buy separate that comes with stiffer springs.

JPsTc
02-29-2008, 04:04 PM
The green spring should be enough. The yellow spring is a little too stiff and that piston needs to be able to be pushed so you can release that pressure. Not being able to do so can hurt the compressor over time.

You really think so? I'll try to swap it out today, thanks for the info.


Thats what forge's website says but people have been running even stiffer springs so maybe you won't have a problem. Im gona switch to the yellow spring to see if theres any noticable difference.

gwtc
02-29-2008, 04:12 PM
The green spring should be enough. The yellow spring is a little too stiff and that piston needs to be able to be pushed so you can release that pressure. Not being able to do so can hurt the compressor over time.

You really think so? I'll try to swap it out today, thanks for the info.


Thats what forge's website says but people have been running even stiffer springs so maybe you won't have a problem. Im gona switch to the yellow spring to see if theres any noticable difference.

Cool, can you, cause I do not have a boost gauge yet, so its really hard for me to tell if I'm building up the right amount of boost, I can say it feels allot better then before and it does release pressure at red line.

JPsTc
02-29-2008, 04:18 PM
If it releases the pressure @ redline then theres really no problem. Once i get the clutch broken in ill let you know the difference. Do you get that really nice sound when you shift?

gwtc
02-29-2008, 04:31 PM
If it releases the pressure @ redline then theres really no problem. Once i get the clutch broken in ill let you know the difference. Do you get that really nice sound when you shift?

Cool..thanks, well its not as loud as I was hoping it would be, its prob. cause I still have the stock air box.

JPsTc
02-29-2008, 04:34 PM
Yea an intake will make it sound sick but its not worth the risk of running lean

gwtc
02-29-2008, 04:50 PM
Yea an intake will make it sound sick but its not worth the risk of running lean

Agreed....

JPsTc
03-05-2008, 02:06 AM
Ok so im running the yellow spring right now with the top of the BPV facing the driver's fender and in second gear i hit 9psi. So im assuming it isn't leaking.

gwtc
03-06-2008, 01:53 AM
Ok so im running the yellow spring right now with the top of the BPV facing the driver's fender and in second gear i hit 9psi. So im assuming it isn't leaking.

Aren't you suppose to be hitting 9.5 thou?

Simplyscion
03-06-2008, 03:23 AM
Ok so im running the yellow spring right now with the top of the BPV facing the driver's fender and in second gear i hit 9psi. So im assuming it isn't leaking.

Aren't you suppose to be hitting 9.5 thou?
it was second gear...less load on the car...also .5 psi is negligable...could be minimal belt slip. Guys keep in mind that the numbers that forge has are based on turbo's. Pat from Forge came on here and realized the exact thing i was running into. The supercharger needed a stiffer spring in order to hit full boost than what a turbo would at the same psi levels. I ran the red spring with 2 washers with my 9.5 psi pulley, it was fine

gwtc
03-06-2008, 03:27 AM
Ok so im running the yellow spring right now with the top of the BPV facing the driver's fender and in second gear i hit 9psi. So im assuming it isn't leaking.

Aren't you suppose to be hitting 9.5 thou?
it was second gear...less load on the car...also .5 psi is negligable...could be minimal belt slip. Guys keep in mind that the numbers that forge has are based on turbo's. Pat from Forge came on here and realized the exact thing i was running into. The supercharger needed a stiffer spring in order to hit full boost than what a turbo would at the same psi levels. I ran the red spring with 2 washers with my 9.5 psi pulley, it was fine

I keep reading people saying they used the red spring with 2 washers, does forge sell that one separately? cause my kit did not come with it, thank you.

Simplyscion
03-06-2008, 03:31 AM
contact ecstuning...i think they sell the spring kit seperately. You could use the blue spring if you have that and just shim the crap out of it with like 4 washers

gwtc
03-06-2008, 03:38 AM
contact ecstuning...i think they sell the spring kit seperately. You could use the blue spring if you have that and just shim the crap out of it with like 4 washers

ecstuning is a company or a screen name? I do have the blue one, I guess I can play around with that one when I get my 9.5lb pulley, thanks....

Simplyscion
03-06-2008, 03:40 AM
contact ecstuning...i think they sell the spring kit seperately. You could use the blue spring if you have that and just shim the crap out of it with like 4 washers

ecstuning is a company or a screen name? I do have the blue one, I guess I can play around with that one when I get my 9.5lb pulley, thanks....
company...heres the link http://www.ecstuning.com/
just play with the blue spring and get a boost gauge hooked up or else your just wasting your time

JPsTc
03-06-2008, 03:44 AM
^Im thinking about doing so but if im running the yellow spring and hitting 9psi in second then i don't really need a stiffer spring correct?

Simplyscion
03-06-2008, 03:52 AM
try the yellow spring with a washer or 2 and see what happens. If you hit that extra half psi then you know it was leaking...if theres not change whatsoever than go back to the yellow...you guys are making it seem more confusing and harder than it really is...its simple deduction skills. It will be easier for you JP cause you have a boostgauge and will actually be able to see whats going on, not basing your info from the butt dyno.

gwtc
03-06-2008, 04:55 PM
Trust me I know I have to install a boost gauge, soon...thanks for the link.

yellowxboy
03-22-2008, 07:21 AM
Mushrew-Sorry, I dont have any pics but if you go to the thread that Motozen started up then you could see the 2 different ways to install it...
Ok guys, as I am driving the car more and more, i notice the sounds coming from the valve...it sounds exactly like my friends GTI but just with less boost...for those of you who are looking for an audible diverter valve this is definitely the one...I didnt plan on it being this loud but it really screams now...Im almost scared to hear what its gonna sound like when Im blowing off at 9.5 psi :rofl:
I may put it back to the regular way after I get the pulley just to try and be a lil bit more discreet :P

so reversing the bvp made it alittle louder, if i had the stock airbox, either way its dead silent huh?