Okay, so today was the day we were planning on getting my Um Nitza Angel Eyes installed.
My team consisted of a liscensed electrician and a car mechanic...couldn't have been better, right? Wrong.
After removing the front bumper and the headlights, came the whole oven deal. I was worried about this from the beginning...and now I know why.
We put the left headlight in the oven at 200 degrees for 20 minutes as the instructions (which were beyond awful by the way) stated. Well...now my headlight is in the bottom of my oven melted with only part of the plexi glass still there.
Now either I need to get a new oven or Um Nitza needs to be a little more descriptive.
So yeah...no more left headlight, but just wait...we haven't gotten to the really bad part yet.
Immediately after my headlight was trashed, my friend who had just came in and was unaware of what we were doing picked up one of the Um Nitza Halos and snapped it right in two. He "didn't know it was glass...."
I just walked out of the room in a rage and basically had a mental breakdown. Now, I have 1 large beam light, and two low beams. And I can't hook my old lights back up because they're melted.
I'm going to go shoot myself...but first i'll try and see if theres anything else that can be done...
IbRtC
12-27-2005, 05:51 AM
:cry:
Okay, so today was the day we were planning on getting my Um Nitza Angel Eyes installed.
My team consisted of a liscensed electrician and a car mechanic...couldn't have been better, right? Wrong.
After removing the front bumper and the headlights, came the whole oven deal. I was worried about this from the beginning...and now I know why.
We put the left headlight in the oven at 200 degrees for 20 minutes as the instructions (which were beyond awful by the way) stated. Well...now my headlight is in the bottom of my oven melted with only part of the plexi glass still there.
Now either I need to get a new oven or Um Nitza needs to be a little more descriptive.
So yeah...no more left headlight, but just wait...we haven't gotten to the really bad part yet.
Immediately after my headlight was trashed, my friend who had just came in and was unaware of what we were doing picked up one of the Um Nitza Halos and snapped it right in two. He "didn't know it was glass...."
I just walked out of the room in a rage and basically had a mental breakdown. Now, I have 1 large beam light, and two low beams. And I can't hook my old lights back up because they're melted.
I'm going to go shoot myself...but first i'll try and see if theres anything else that can be done...
Damm man I feel so bad for you , specially considering I WAS going to put the same ones myself. The whole baking process suck in general. Too risky if you ask me.
By the way Im asumming your friend will be paying for the one he broke, or both of them because I think they dont sell them seperate.
Good luck man !!
tikbhoy
12-27-2005, 06:06 AM
wow.
worst way to end the year.
Dakahn
12-27-2005, 06:11 AM
My question to you is... Have you contacted Um Nitza about this problem before you posted here on this board??? (Don't take this the wrong way) I would be also ____ed if I had this problem happen to me, but I would at least cover all my ends then express my frustration so that all ends are accounted for. Good luck w/everything, hope something good comes out of this.
zer0
12-27-2005, 08:16 AM
Good luck with everything as well... couldnt imagine.
Eppopipe
12-27-2005, 08:51 AM
some how i dont think he wanted to bash umnitza ....but just tell everybody what happened,.
davedavetC
12-27-2005, 12:10 PM
ok when you went to bake them did you put it on a baking sheet wrapped in alumnium foil? im pretty sure that if you put the lens down on the alumninum foil it wont melt the lens. and im sorry to hear what happened to you.
DTRUONG_112
12-27-2005, 02:33 PM
def. the WOSTEST day ever.
WeDriveScions
12-27-2005, 04:30 PM
Wow.... Can't imagine how that happened....
Was it a GAS oven, or did you set it on broil?
Did you preheat the oven before putting the lights in there?
Did you set the lights on something to prevent them from touching metal (I Used a towel on a baking sheet)
I've done two sets of lights without incident... and had no problems whatsoever... 200 degrees shouldn't melt anything. I've had the lights in there at 200 for 20+ minutes before... and not even close to melting anything...
There's got to be some reason.....
Sam_J84
12-27-2005, 04:32 PM
dang that sucks. one reason why i wont do that to my headlights.
jay_jay_n
12-27-2005, 04:40 PM
daym.. that sucks, now i'm scared on doing the same.. :( good luck with it and keep us posted pls.
WeDriveScions
12-27-2005, 05:49 PM
I wouldn't get too scared... I was one of the first to do it, without any instructions at all, and had no problems....
I'd like to isolate what was done differently than me, and see what the problem was...
Beantowntc
12-27-2005, 05:51 PM
damn that sucks....i cant cook food, no way im cooking a headlight :silly:
Onikage
12-27-2005, 06:33 PM
Yea, he probably forgot the whole baking sheet thing. Sorry to hear it bro. Hopefully you get some redemption, such as your friend paying for the next set.
KickAssKishan
12-27-2005, 08:29 PM
dude that sucks :-/
Artur
12-27-2005, 08:36 PM
That sux!!
Did you have the headlight in the bottom tray close to the heating element, or in the upper tray thats farther away?
robstamina
12-27-2005, 09:18 PM
Have people that have done this to there lights notice a hazey film on the outside of them from this process after a couple days?
WeDriveScions
12-27-2005, 09:36 PM
Nope, had them for six months and no ill effects at all!
zer0
12-27-2005, 10:38 PM
Nope, had them for six months and no ill effects at all!
Did you clear the corners while you were at it? That would be the only reason for me to open up my headlights, to remove that damn amber...
WeDriveScions
12-27-2005, 10:49 PM
I tinted my corners, while I was at it.... check my profile for pics.
dp-_-
12-28-2005, 12:19 AM
I tinted my corners, while I was at it.... check my profile for pics.
what area are you in? I need some DD install help (specifically someone to do it :D )
Also, regarding bashing Umnitza. They tried to make me pay for a replacement ring that came broken upon the argument that "it was over a month ago and should have been handled."
Even though I had proof that I had been trying repeatedly to get it replaced since the day I recieved it....not to put all of the blame on them, it was also due to some completely false information provided by the company I bought them from (I can tell you they're very popular on the forums) such as, "they'll be there any day now"
Anyway, Umnitza's response to my rant was, "we handle hundreds of e-mails a day...sometimes they just slip through the cracks." So therefore, I have to pay for their mistakes.
They have agreed to replace it after the fore-mentioned 3rd party vendor sent another e-mail, but I have to wait for Umnitza....that is if they ever get any more in stock (been out of stock for the past 2 weeks now).........still waiting on a replacement......
Other than this seemingly isolated response (which was BS in the first place). They've been great.
WeDriveScions
12-28-2005, 12:50 AM
I'm up in Portland, OR... so not too much help there....
05-RS1
12-28-2005, 01:11 AM
did u put a wet towel under it?
WeDriveScions
12-28-2005, 01:20 AM
NO!
That'd get moisture EVERYWHERE.... and that's a bad thing... you want a nice clean electric oven, preheated to 200 degrees with the LOWER element... I just folded up a towel and put that on a cookie sheet and placed the headlamp on the towel... (I wanted to avoid direct heat exposure from below... just heat the lamp up uniformly from around.) I also put it in really quickly and waited until the element turned off before sticking the next light housing in, to avoid too much time the element was on keeping the temperature up while my assembly was in there... (If that makes sense)
I did everything possible to avoid contact of the lense to direct heat.
and no, the towel was just fine... just don't put it in there while it's preheating and you should be fine...
I watched my housing every second it was in there as well, just to make sure nothing weird happened.
Flintlanta
12-28-2005, 01:34 AM
I have a gas oven........
Could that have been the problem?
Oh...does anyone know how much a new headlight is and where I could get one? I'd really appreciate it.
davedavetC
12-28-2005, 01:42 AM
no idea on the price of hte headlight but check out www.mcgeorgeparts.com i think thats the website. they have the best price i have seen for the headlight, i think its like $137 or somethin like that (so yea i do have an idea lol :P )
davedavetC
12-28-2005, 01:43 AM
oh yea they might even have free shippin and thats always a bonus.
WeDriveScions
12-28-2005, 01:54 AM
I'd bet it the combo of the gas oven and not enough dampening between the burner and the lense that contributed to the melting... I'd say for sure that you'd only want to do this in a standard electric on that has been properly preheated.
davedavetC
12-28-2005, 02:08 AM
WDS do you think putting the towel in the oven under the light is the best way? would aluminum foil work too? also what did you mean by element? just curious cus im gonna do it as soon as they get in (hopefully thursday its my next day off and my only one in a long time lol)
WeDriveScions
12-28-2005, 02:10 AM
I don't think aluminum foil would have the same effect....
The heater element in the bottom the the oven what I'm talking about... the little "Tube" that turns red??? LoL...
As long as the towl is on the cookie sheet on the middle rack, and added to a preheated oven at ONLY 200 degrees... I don't think you'll have a problem... I watched mine closely to be sure and had an extingisher just in case.... :P
Kilo6_one
12-28-2005, 02:11 AM
baking is a lazy way of doing it, when we did the headlights on my frineds car, we used a heat gun, and it took along time, but in my opinion, its more acccurate, and you are putting the heat directly on the area, not heating up the whole assembly. both ways work, but this is not the first time ive heard of this happening.
davedavetC
12-28-2005, 02:25 AM
I don't think aluminum foil would have the same effect....
The heater element in the bottom the the oven what I'm talking about... the little "Tube" that turns red??? LoL...
As long as the towl is on the cookie sheet on the middle rack, and added to a preheated oven at ONLY 200 degrees... I don't think you'll have a problem... I watched mine closely to be sure and had an extingisher just in case.... :P
thanks lol by element i wasnt sure if you were talkin about somethin else you put in the oven. i got a little confused. but yea im gonna try your towel method when i do them this week. thanks again for your info. your the man lol so helpful and knowledgeable :bow: lol
sarsippius
12-28-2005, 02:30 AM
Sparks has one for 141.
tC9o9
12-28-2005, 02:46 AM
omg, some people.... if melting your headlight and snapping a halo ring is your worst day... then you havent expierience much. just be thankful that you have a car to fu*k around with, when my car got hit, i didnt b*tch about it, i took it like a MAN and was thankful that even though it got hit, nothing major happened
Flintlanta
12-28-2005, 03:28 AM
Come on, it's an obvious exaggeration.
WeDriveScions
12-28-2005, 03:48 AM
^ Yeah, I agree.....
I'd tick me off though.... Everytime I take a risk on an install, I always research how much it'll cost to fix it...
Tapping into my fuel line might cost me 60 some bucks for a new one and a couple days down waiting for the part to come in.... hope I don't screw it up.
davedavetC
12-28-2005, 03:58 AM
yea good luck with that
Chombi
12-28-2005, 05:34 AM
Your oven's thermostat might be broken and not properly regulating the heat giving you higher than indicated temps. The safest way to go is to put an oven themometer in the oven. The metal ones built for that purpose. Then you will be 100% sure that you are not overheating the headlight housing. 200 degrees shouldn't be enough to melt your headlight housing.
It will be a very good idea to closely watch the heating process so that you can detect the first signs of trouble if any which will give you a chance to abort the mission!
Good luck on your next try!
Chombi
05 FM tC
Kilo6_one
12-28-2005, 07:12 AM
also was it a convection oven? i hear that helps keep the heat uniform......if not it just send the heat straight up......