View Full Version : So I went to the track with my Supercharged tC.....
Nu_ERA 12-29-2005, 01:47 AM Well I went to the track with my Supercharged tC and the upgrades include DC Race Header, TRD Axle Back Exhaust, Custom K&N Cold-air intake and 91 octane. I also drive this daily with 19" rims and the tires don't stick at all cause of the small sidewall. Rims weigh bout 31 lbs. EACH!!
Now I have a HUGE box for my subs that weighs in at almost 130 so my cars kind of a tank :P
The Results: THE WORST WHEEL HOP I EVER EXPERIENCED!! I thought my front windshield hit the dash... jk but it seemed harsh. I went for a second run and slipped all the way through 1st and 2nd. Terrible runs which netted me my best ET of the day of 14.84 @ 93.08
Now I did this run to test my car as of now... the way I drive it everyday so trying to get a proper ET is... well not exact being my less than stellar launches. On the 14th of January I will be running again with: ZPI Crank and Supercharger pulley, 17" Stock rims w/drag radials, ZPI down-pipe, and hopefully better engine mounts.
Overall I'm disappointed but looking for low 14's high 13's with 19" rims and first time racer (yes my first time to the track, and it wont be the last!!) is not practical at all. But was it fun!! Just wanted to let you guys now my experience.
hPower 12-29-2005, 02:05 AM Good job man, considering all the extra weight you had against you. These are good numbers, considering the so called experts at road and track magazine ran a best of 15.1 :loser:
Now drop some of that weight and go back for some more practice. I also highly recommend you picking up an SC pulley from NST, www.NonStopTuning.com if you plan to raise boost :love:
terra_tC 12-29-2005, 03:30 AM that was nice for all that weight you have packin, and 19's
FLINT 12-29-2005, 03:35 AM get that ingalls etd and crank that bad boy up. that will take care of your wheel hop. the damper alone will take off at leaste 1 sec
OutCrnrU 12-29-2005, 03:38 AM nice job, all the wieght is affecting your trap speed more than anything else,
i ran 14.6 but at 98mph, so keep working on it and low 14s should be no problem
Stu_Gotti 12-29-2005, 01:03 PM Nice :)
trdsparks 12-29-2005, 01:41 PM Thats pretty strong considering you have an extra 180+ lbs over stock.
I have a n00b question does anyone make a LSD for the tC? Thats would take care of the wheel & axle hop.
Munch 12-29-2005, 01:44 PM Thats pretty strong considering you have an extra 180+ lbs over stock.
I have a n00b question does anyone make a LSD for the tC? Thats would take care of the wheel & axle hop.
Not yet :no:
jmiller20874 12-29-2005, 02:15 PM Uh yeah they do. Phantom Grip has 'em.
http://www.phantomgrip.com/product_lists.php?make=Toyota
$349.95
Beantowntc 12-29-2005, 02:32 PM do you know what your 60ft was?
emiller 12-29-2005, 02:38 PM Since you have a lot of extra weight and have never been to the track before thats really good. Ive never been to the track either but its hard to get good starts compared to other cars. Adding more power probably makes it worse. Good job and keep trying and Im sure you will get lots better.
Munch 12-29-2005, 02:54 PM Uh yeah they do. Phantom Grip has 'em.
http://www.phantomgrip.com/product_lists.php?make=Toyota
$349.95
That's not a true LSD. Its a set of blocks that you sandwhich into the spider gears of the diff. Those things are straight up GARBAGE period. They do not make a TRUE LSD for the TC right now. BUt I heard they are making one.
aarontrini85 12-29-2005, 02:58 PM i hear alot of mixed reviews of the phantom grip some ppl swear by them and others hate them
have you tried them before munch maybe you can give us some input as to why they suck??
Munch 12-29-2005, 03:07 PM i hear alot of mixed reviews of the phantom grip some ppl swear by them and others hate them
have you tried them before munch maybe you can give us some input as to why they suck??
I had a phantom grip in my old 12:5:1 compression Neon. The thing worked for about 3 weeks and then it worked whenever it wanted to. Till one day it didn't work at all. What a waste of time effort and money. If you're gonna do it.................do it right the first time.
Simplyscion 12-29-2005, 03:17 PM i hear alot of mixed reviews of the phantom grip some ppl swear by them and others hate them
have you tried them before munch maybe you can give us some input as to why they suck??
I had a phantom grip in my old 12:5:1 compression Neon. The thing worked for about 3 weeks and then it worked whenever it wanted to. Till one day it didn't work at all. What a waste of time effort and money. If you're gonna do it.................do it right the first time.
http://www.teamscionrg.com/forum/images/smiles/werd.gif
tCb00b 12-29-2005, 03:40 PM Not to bad for your first time. The thing about that story that stuck out in my mind is that they let you run with that stuff in the car. Most places from what I hear make you take out stuff like that incase of an accident. Just my .02 though.
Stock 12-29-2005, 03:49 PM Thats pretty strong considering you have an extra 180+ lbs over stock.
I have a n00b question does anyone make a LSD for the tC? Thats would take care of the wheel & axle hop.
Quaiffe (Sp?) Is thinking about it i talked to them about a week ago and they said they are contemplating putting one in R&D and for me to contact them again in about a month or so. So hopefully... :pray:
DTRUONG_112 12-29-2005, 05:41 PM nice numbers man esp with 19s
FLINT 12-29-2005, 06:14 PM i thought LSD were bad drugs :nails: :silly:
nester 12-29-2005, 07:05 PM Nu_ERA,
Email me a copy of your time slip, and I'll add you to our fastest/quickest page. We need more S/C'ed scions for the list.
Nu_ERA 12-29-2005, 09:07 PM As for me 60 it was <6.472> It was funny that you mentioned the gear on my car. They made me wear a helmet and long sleaved shirt for my safety. I told them that I had side curtain airbags so I GUESS it was ok.
And sent me your e-mail nester so I can e-mail it to you.
Nick06tC 12-29-2005, 09:29 PM Awesome numbers for sure. I wish i was out where youa re. Our tracks are closed for the winter. I never go to do a run fully stock. Cant wait to see what i can pull with my S/C.
Got Video ???
aarontrini85 12-29-2005, 09:55 PM As for me 60 it was <6.472> It was funny that you mentioned the gear on my car. They made me wear a helmet and long sleaved shirt for my safety. I told them that I had side curtain airbags so I GUESS it was ok.
And sent me your e-mail nester so I can e-mail it to you.
good god that is a horible 60 foot time lol but the nice thing is if you can get your launch down expect some mid to low 1/4 times on 19" rims that would be awsome lol pull on rsx's in style
Kenshin 12-29-2005, 11:21 PM As for me 60 it was <6.472> It was funny that you mentioned the gear on my car. They made me wear a helmet and long sleaved shirt for my safety. I told them that I had side curtain airbags so I GUESS it was ok.
And sent me your e-mail nester so I can e-mail it to you.
good god that is a horible 60 foot time lol but the nice thing is if you can get your launch down expect some mid to low 1/4 times on 19" rims that would be awsome lol pull on rsx's in style
OMG 6.4? Did you slowly creep out of there? Do you know how to feather the clutch? IT takes experience but it seems you revved it to 6k and dropped the clutch, sat there and burned rubber. You said you have no experience drag racing so that seems fair. Try lowering your pressure on the tires to around 20psi and FEATHER the clutch out till you ahve traction. Learn2drive. :) I'm no expert either, I got a 16.09 on mine with a 2.4 60'.
^ :relief: I thought my 15.7 was bad... I only was able to get 1 run in, it was too cold for my girlfriend...
But i launched at 4k and feather'd the clutch, but ended up just dumping it. Burnout heaven. :silly:
sensay 12-30-2005, 12:18 AM he didnt say 60', just said 60 soooo he could have been talkin about 0-60 which at 6.472 sounds about right with his 1/4 times. It would be IMPOSIBLE to make a 14.8 1/4 mile if it took 6.5 sec to reach 60 feet. C'MON guys use ur heads
he didnt say 60', just said 60 soooo he could have been talkin about 0-60 which at 6.472 sounds about right with his 1/4 times. It would be IMPOSIBLE to make a 14.8 1/4 mile if it took 6.5 sec to reach 60 feet. C'MON guys use ur heads
Umm, most timeslips are layed out like this...
http://mithdesign.com/upload/files/2/time%20slip.jpg
Dont see a 60mph anywhere, although his slip could be different, we'll have to wait and see untill it uploaded.
Beantowntc 12-30-2005, 01:35 AM Yeah that 6.4 must be his 0-60. Not sure how he would know that unless he has a gtech or whatever its called since 0-60 usually isn't on a time slip. If his 60ft time was a 6.4 and he still managed a 14.8 he must have a 10 second tc lol
Either way I'm glad to see the s/c tcs hitting the track.
Basstrack17 12-30-2005, 03:06 AM in this ol' man's opinion... running 14's is what many of our cars did in the old days ( late 70's-early 80's ), and with mods we pushed into 11-12 range. Now my wife's car w/ sc will run similar to what my camaro did in HS, yet gets twice the gas mileage, always starts, has a warranty, and can even be driven in snow....
how I miss those days...
I doubt i'd ever take her car to a track, and with the low 1st this thing's got, good starts seem to be an aquired talent. But these should run low-mid 14's all things considered; and with the mods listed on this site( i.e. pulley change, exhaust, better tires, etc ) 13's should be readily available. And that in a front driver can be as much fun as waiting for the secondaries to open up, rear end kicking out, and hanging on 'til the end ( again, those were the days... )
senseiturtle 12-30-2005, 03:23 AM I pulled a 2.2 60' on the stock tires, without dropping the tire pressure.
If you're not under 2.4, then you need to practice. :)
NeoXa 12-30-2005, 04:26 AM Hmmmmmm....So you had a track day with your SC Tc..i'm assuming it's manual...and ran with 19's, an 150+ lb box for subs...tsk tsk. Try running like 15's on radials or slicks and gut the car. :) Put some real numbers to make a stand for SC tc.
Nick06tC 12-30-2005, 09:33 AM i like the fact that he ran the car as he drives it and still got a decent number. Adding slicks on 15's and gutting the car out doesnt show what his everyday driven car can do.
DynomyteSW 12-30-2005, 10:15 AM hey zer0 are you a nonpoint fan?
Nu_ERA 12-30-2005, 03:24 PM MY MISTAKE my 60' was 2.237.... my slip says dial first so I miss read the 60'' time. I'm trying to take a pic of the slip but its coming out all fuzzy so bear with me while I locate a scanner. As for tire pressure..... well didn't know bout that :loser:
Oh well I did say it was my first time. I drive this car everyday and I wanted to see what it does as is. Now on the 14th of January I will be going back and after a little practice with stock 17" on drag radials, ZPI Boost pulley, Crank Pulley, Bosch 110 sport BPV.... and I'll be taking my box out. Just for the run. I need my tunes :P
ITSAXA 12-30-2005, 04:15 PM "The mile per hour" shows how much power your making ,for the most part, even if you sit there spinning your wheels for a second or 2. im sure the supercharger added "mile per hour" to your pre-supercharger runs.
The E.T. is how well you got the power to the ground.
100 lbs out of the car will get you to the end of the quarter mile 1 tenth of a second sooner....no need to remove the interier,just make a 15.0 into a 14.9.
Best 60 foot i ever got was a 1.4 WITH SLICKS ! ....FLOOR MATS AND TRUNK CARPET ROLLED BACK ! you remember that stuff. on my way to a 10.4@143mph.
These are not drag cars,your gunna hurt something if you try for hard 60 foots,get a clean run and "adjust" for 2 second 60 foots.
Like you said,wheel hop is horrible.....and hurts the car bad.
14s good time
hey zer0 are you a nonpoint fan?
Damn straight! 8)
"The mile per hour" shows how much power your making ,for the most part, even if you sit there spinning your wheels for a second or 2. im sure the supercharger added "mile per hour" to your pre-supercharger runs. "The mile per hour" shows how much power your making ,for the most part, even if you sit there spinning your wheels for a second or 2. im sure the supercharger added "mile per hour" to your pre-supercharger runs.
I did a burnout to the 60' and finally caught traction, my Trap speed is fastest Ive seen on SL.
89.28 MPH, hopefully 14s in spring... :clap:
Beantowntc 01-03-2006, 05:46 PM Yeah that 6.4 must be his 0-60. Not sure how he would know that unless he has a gtech or whatever its called since 0-60 usually isn't on a time slip. If his 60ft time was a 6.4 and he still managed a 14.8 he must have a 10 second tc lol
Either way I'm glad to see the s/c tcs hitting the track.
found a vid related to this LMAO :rofl:
http://newengland-motorsports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15531
Stock 01-03-2006, 06:03 PM That is a really good vid. Nice find
06_t_cizzle 01-03-2006, 06:10 PM I went to the track with my tc completely stock and ran in the low 16's for a while until i learned to launch at around 3500 and FEATHER the clutch just right...
my 60' time wasn't bad on my best run of the night 2.2...
best time on the night stock was a 15.91 which i didn't think was too bad either for a stock car... wheel hop sucks in this car if you let off the clutch too fast!!!
apexjr 01-03-2006, 06:20 PM Nu_ERA,
Do you have new springs and shocks when you went to the track?
Just curious.
Artur 01-03-2006, 07:07 PM Heh, I have a worse 60' time than he does in my ZX2 ;) I know that car is good for low 14's, but its such a pain in the arse to launch.
Goow work with your TC, I hope to have mine up to 230-40whp by august. Good to know what to look forward to!
senseiturtle 01-03-2006, 07:39 PM I just dump the clutch at 2000, with 75% throttle... apply full throttle as traction comes.
2.2 60's aren't too bad to obtain, even with stock RE92's. Just avoid the waterbox and give them a very quick spin to clean them off and get a new bit of rubber.
Nu_ERA 01-03-2006, 08:10 PM I have the TRD Lowering Springs and Shocks as well as strut bars for the front and rear.
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